Andrew,
Jon "forgot" to send you this link:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jon.html
This is Jon by Jon (he wrote that page).
This does NOT mean that Jon is wrong. It just means that he is not the
most diplomatic person around.
Try to get the juice from his argumentation and ignore the less pleasant
aspects.
Have fun,
Paulo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Stefano Mazzocchi
> Subject: Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache
>
>
> >It sounds like your project is plenty successful where it is.
>
> True. However, because the vision for the project involves and would
> benefit both directly and indirectly several existing Apache projects, I
> feel it would be easier to collaborate if POI was a Jakarta project.
> The project will of course continue to succeed regardless of that.
>
> >> it makes good "business sense" for Apache as a whole.
>
> >Luckily Apache isn't a business, it is a non-profit volunteer
> >organization.
>
> Excuse the phrasing I was attempting to be concise while getting the
> following point across: I see this project as potentially being of
> great benefit to both Jakarta developers and users. By "business sense"
> I mean to say that greater collaboration would make it possible for
> developers to select a Apache-based solution where they might presently
> have to use proprietary technologies. This could expand the user base
> for the projects I mentioned as well as some of the xml.apache.org
> projects.
>
> >I don't see any convincing reason to bring POI to Jakarta, unless I see
> >that
> >you have a Jakarta PMC member champion your cause. Stefano's
> >recommendation
> >to you isn't enough, he or someone else needs to be a committer and
> >interested in working and overseeing your project.
>
> I see. Thank you, for taking the time to consider the prospect and
> provide feedback.
>
> >Did you read:
> >
> > <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html>
> >
> >-jon
>
> Yes I did. The guidelines lay out how to propose/approve a project,
> they do not seem to preclude proposing that members/commiters look at
> the project, comment and consider a possibly supporting a proposal.
>
> My apologies if I've gone about that the wrong way. What would you
> suggest is the more appropriate way to do so?
>
> -Andy
> --
> www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java
>
> The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to
> vote.
> -Ambassador Kosh
>
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