Gerry, Chris, Kyle, iMacListas All
G'day!, and I'm back from a couple of busy and very much
exciting days..., both X/9 Systems now bootable and the 
long story is below..., do Please see...

iMac List wrote:
> iMac List Digest #2248
> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2005 06:17:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: Why do people like OS 9?
> From: "Gerald E. Uhlan" 
> 
> On 6/12/05 1:03 AM, "chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> Both 9 and X must remain within that first 8 gig partition.
> >> The ROM won't recognize that an OS is installed if it (or any parts of it)
> >> are outside of the first 8 physical gigs.
snip
> It's been a few years ago, but from what I remember it booted up fine the
> first time I started it (iMac 333, 20 gig drive) in OS X, then did an
> automatic update that moved some files outside the first 8 gig.  After that,
> I would get the Kernel Panic screen during startup, then after a few more
> tries I just got the blinking ?.  Then I found out about the 8 gig limit.  I
> also recall that it's possible to partition the drive without erasing and
> reformatting.
snip, and some ripped from another thread(Thanx Miche):
> Two things you do need to do before installing OS X (your backups are
> already up to date, right?):
> 
> 1. Make sure your firmware is up to date (very important).
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75130
> 2. Update from 9.2.1 to 9.2.2.
snip, and from another in the same thread(Thanx Kyle, and a
double Thanx for all the personal bigtime help off-list with
the KB repair(fwiw- I do think that others would also enjoy
a peek at all your iMac Guru handiwork you've got to offer,
it is most excellent, altho the link you've provided there for
our lowerend fruity iMac's upgrade info tires too easily into
a lockout where retries are the only way to proceed).
> Its usually best to do them both inside the
> 8 GB.  Usually, the user has OS X and OS 9, but tries to boot into OS X
> first, and then they get dumped into OF or the disk/?, and from then
> on, it happens regardless of what OS they try.  On the discussion
> boards, we usually recommend just wiping the drive and partitioning,
> then installing both onto the partition.
Did you use the lil' App. called; PlusOptimiser?, or what?
> Interestingly enough, if you are partitioning from the OS X Disk
> Utility, you should make the partition about 7.43 GB.  Apparently,
> there is an issue with the decimal/binary size.  The thread, which also
> deals with the issue of BOTH OSes in the partition, is here -
> <http://discussions.info.apple.com/.68ad02cf/1>  (You don't need to
> sign up or anything to read the posts)
I ultimately went with a 3 partition format w/ DiskUtility
as: (6.4Gb 1st. for OSX, then a 2nd. 1.4Gb for OS9.2.1 w/o
updating the drivers(later updated to 9.2.2, also w/o a
driver update, I then booted w/o iNits and rebuilt the
desktops of the 2nd. partition) and then a 3rd. for the 
remaining Gbs as a scratch disk. I then, used my USB
1.1 Ext. HD case popped in the HD as slave and used CCC
to clone OSX.3(7B85) from another iMac w/ only OSX on
it onto the 1st. partition of my HD, I then removed the 
HD from the USB HD case and put it back into the iMac
while removing the now unneeded jumpers.

And so, both then hopeful bootable Systems were on 
separate partitions are within 'bout the first logical 
7.8Gb of the HD and should've been well under the 8Gb 
limit.

And then with a shakey finger I hit the KB power key,
slipped in DiskWarrior and rebuilt both partitions with
a System on it, reboot into TechToolPro checked out all
as OK(passed), reboot into the OS9.2.1 install disk(why
you ask?, because neither DW nor TTP now offer a StartUp
Disk choice, only a restart upon quit) , now chose OS9.2.2
as the startup, had a OS9 fast checkout with a few tweaks
toss'd in(like, making a very sparce Set w/ Ext. Manager
and rebooting to it, I by then, had found the courage to
select the OSX and reboot into it, and Wa'La~ majically
OSX was all there and working(albait slowly from the 
lack of both; RAM and the 160Mbs installed being the
dog slow PC66 variety and Not nearly enough of it. I
will now be waiting for funds to upgrade the RAM to
at least; 512Mbs consisting of 2ea. x 256MB PC100 
CL2 SO-DIMM Low-Profile chips, but am not able to
locally find them, so am wondering if there are any
of the more readably available PC133 SO-DIMM type
that are 256/128Mb and both; low-density and low-
profile, and that are 144pin and being fully backward 
compatable to pc100 ol' iMac type out there??, and 
just what would their type officially be called/named??

Your Guru advise on this much needed RAM is again 
sought and hoped for. TIA for Anything/Everything/
All you can offer.

(fyi- do Not use a slow RPM HD, the 7,200rpm ATA
(even the 66) will produce much better results)

I am indebted to the List and All the Gurus here who
helped me both on-list and off- to get this far along 
on this quest of mine, I Thank You All for your help.

Color me hopeful for a lil' more info on the RAM.
Respectful of GURUs
Bill Cornett
cornettATgolDOTcom
"Rust never sleeps."-N. Young

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