Joshua,

Yes, I had logs, IP addresses, traceroutes, etc.  We never got to that
point.  They just kept saying they can't investigate a problem if it
happened outside of AOLs own network.  Anything on the internet at large
they were not supposed to look into.

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> Joshua Levitsky
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:15 PM
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> Subject: [JSpamFilter] Re: [IMail Forum] OT: AOL's got nerve
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> 
> > From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:00:35 -0500
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: AOL's got nerve
> > 
> > Yes, I emailed every address for terms of service issues, 
> to customer 
> > support, to corporate.  Believe me, AOL does not care what 
> their users 
> > do unless they are doing it on AOL itself.  Even an email 
> abuse they 
> > will generally tell you that they couldn't verify it was an 
> AOL user. 
> > They are masters at not taking ownership of a problem.
> 
> I can't speak to that because I don't have a case I can see. 
> I believe you tried. I don't know what happened in that 
> particular event. I do know people high up in mail admin and 
> I do know they care.
> 
> In the case of your chat issue did you have logs showing what 
> IP address the person came from and dates and times so that 
> AOL could see that if you gave them 5 Ips with dates and 
> times that in all 5 cases the same AOL user was online on 
> that IP? We have VERY detailed logs about connections. I 
> believe you had a problem and nothing I could say now will 
> solve that other than you experience is not my experience, 
> and I have worked at one other large ISP and one medium ISP. 
> In both those cases when I had to deal with AOL I was able to 
> get things done when I was good at providing evidence to 
> support claims I had. 
> 
> -Josh
> 
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