Hello Judith,
Saya setuju sekali dengan pendapat mu.
Percaya deh, mayoritas Indonesians lebih senang tetap bersahabat dengan
Australi. Yang tulis aneh-aneh di milist ini kan cuma minoritas. Anda pasti
akan mengerti, orang vokal di Indo biasanya minoritas.
Siti Nurbaya
>From: "Judith Shelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: TIMOR TIMUR - TIMOR BARAT
>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:53:27 +1000 (EST)
>
>Dear Mike
>
>I understand your feelings about East Timor- I am sure that the majority of
>Indonesian people also feel the same -
>
>However- the anti-Indonesian bias of the press and protesters in Australia
>is both inappropriate and counter-productive-
>In fact I feel really angry at the ignorance and rudeness of some
>Australian
>people - especially in the burning of the Indonesian flag which insults all
>Indonesian people -
>Have YOU forgotten that the majority of Indonesian ppl voted for DEMOKRASI
>in the last election - not for GOLKAR- ABRI - how easily you and other ppl
>forget!
>And I wish you would stop sending warnings!!!!!
>Who do you think you are warning!!! You talk like a panphlet - instead of a
>person talking to other ppl - most of whom are very concerned and care
>about
>East Timor-
> I have include a copy of the message I recently sent to members of AIAA-
>Australia Indonesia Arts Alliance. Through talking with members of Indoz-
>net and Indonesian family and friends - I have realised how hurtful the
>flag-burning is and have started to write to organisations to ask them to
>help dissuade protesters from insulting the rakyat of Indonesia.
>
>
>Dear Friends
>
>
>I have personally taken the following actions regarding the East Timor
>situation over the last few months:
>
>Provision of web site space and maintenance of Lismore- Byron Friends of
>East Timor Web site.
>Discussed with leaders of FET the need to avoid racism against Indonesian
>people and to be clear and truthful about who is responsible for the
>current
>crisis ie the Indonesian military (which has also had the support of the
>Australian government until recently)
>Attendance at FET meetings as an observer/supporter and as a member of the
>Indonesian community, making the point at that time that I could not
>become
>a member as I could not agree with trade sactions against Indonesia
>considering the poverty and economic crisis affecting the people of
>Indonesia - trade sactions having little effect on the wealthy and
>powerful,
>but dire effects on the poor in Indonesia.
>Inclusion of information about Hope in East Timor refugee support
>organisation in Inspirasi Magazine.
>This week -
>Attendance at East Timor Rally and March in Byron Bay - myself and another
>member of the local Indonesian community spoke to the incensed crowd about
>the need for protesters to pray for peace and to acknowledge that the
>Parliament of Indonesia does not support the declaration of martial law or
>the actions of the military in East Timor, that the Indonesian people are
>our friends and they need our support to work together for peace.
>Sent emails to Ibu Megawati and Bpk Habibie asking them to take action now
>to stop the violence in East Timor.
>Participation in Indoz-net ( 330 Indonesian students) on-line discussion
>group which includes pro and anti -members, which has been discussing East
>Timor with some members making suggestions about ways to respond as
>Indonesian community members who disagree with the violence in Indonesia
>and
>East Timor.
>Wrote a letter to International East Timor support group pointing out the
>counter-productive nature of burning Indonesian flags - as this alienates
>the people of Indonesia and Indonesian East Timor Support Groups by turning
>Rallies for East Timor Support into exercises in anti - Indonesian racism.
>
>Some of you may be involved with East Timor Support Groups - if so I would
>ask you to explain to the organisers that altho it seems a minor point to
>us- it is deeply insulting to ALL Indonesian people to burn the Indonesian
>flag (or attack innocent Indonesian citizens or Embassy staff) - it would
>be
>more appropriate to burn our own flag as the Australian government bears
>responsibilty for the current situation as well.
>I believe the people of Indonesia do not support ABRI's behaviour in TIMTIM
>but the more that Australians incite racial hatred towards Indonesia, their
>leaders use this to deflect criticism from themselves onto us. Tension
>between Australia and Indonesia is used as a smoke screen by Ali Alatas and
>sectors of the Indonesian press to blame Australia for being
>anti-Indonesian
>and thereby discredit the protests re East Timor.
>The more that Australian protesters can acknowledge the growing numbers of
>Indonesian protesters in Jakarta- the more Indonesian people will feel
>supported in speaking out against the actions of their own government.
>
>My own slogan is - WE LOVE INDONESIA WE LOVE EAST TIMOR
> PEACE IN EAST TIMOR NOW
>If Australia could send love and support to Indonesia now instead of hate -
>there is a greater chance that Indonesian people will join the protesters
>in
>Jakarta. Do you think its possible that the Australian protesters could
>focus their energy on being truthful and specific about who is responsible
>-
>instead of hurting the East Timor cause by being racist against Indonesia
>in
>general. Any Australian protester who cannot say the above statement is
>acting out of hate rather than love and has forgotten all the Indonesian
>friends they made on their trips to Bali and Jogja.
>
>The only people who have so far been able to successfully oppose the
>Indonesian government are rakyat Indonesia -
>
>I know that some AIAA members may disagree entirely with what I have said -
>please write back making suggested responses to the letter below.
>Best wishes always
>Judy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >Wake up there!!
> >Australians don't give a damn about the loss of economic trade between
> >Indonesia and Australia. We just want to have the killings stopped and if
>it
> >means that we will pay from our pockets to save those lives, so be it.
> >
> >How can one put a price on a life??
> >
> >The issue is not that of anti-Indonesian, but one of ethnic cleansing and
>
>
>The use of the word ethnic cleansing is fashionable and inflamatory, but
>incorrect - the motivations for what is happening in TIMTIM have more to do
>with economics, power games etc and not ethnic cleansing at all - people
>just like to use this word because it makes the situation look even worse -
>its already sad enough!!!!
>
> >genocide. And, sorry my friend, it is done in the name of your military,
>the
> >paymasters of the militia.
> >
> >I warned you week ago about the collective guilt that ALL Indonesians
>will
> >carry, regardless of how they viewed these atrocities.
>
>
>I am also getting tired of people talking on behalf of whole countries- you
>said in your last email that Australians are going to hold this against
>Indonesians for long time etc- I know many many Australian people who are
>more realistic and less whipped up into a frenzy -while still caring deeply
>about TIMTIM
>I totally disagree with ppl saying all Indonesians or all Australians feel
>.......................
>Go to Quensland Art Gallery and view the anti- army art produced by
>Indonesian artists as part of APT3 - and hear my voice - MANY AUSTRALIANS
>LOVE INDONESIA AND THE INDONESIAN PEOPLE - Even if 20,000 militia are
>guilty - please acknowledge-
>% of 200,000,000- = .001 of the population - please correct me If my maths
>is wrong!!!!!
>therefor the other 99.999% have not been involved in the events in TIMTIM-
>Salam dari Judy
>
>Michael
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Siswanto Siswo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, 12 September 1999 11:30
> >Subject: Re: TIMOR TIMUR - TIMOR BARAT
> >
> >
> >> From: Drewsta Merefield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> >i don't see how you think the media will pay for what they have done.
> >> >Pertama-tama siapa bisa make thm pay dan untuk apa?
> >>
> >> NOT to pay using MONEY, but to pay due to its result/impact, coz media
> >> already teach to public/people to create a certain image.
> >>
> >> Say in the next 10 - 20 years, when Indonesia will recover from the
>hell
> >> political and economical situation, the young Indonesian people who
> >already
> >> have a bad image about Australia and broken hurt, will make, for
>example:
> >a
> >> decision NOT prefer to have more business to Oz, NOT prefer to have any
> >> collaboration with Oz, etc. That's huge expensive loss impact of the
> >current
> >> media.
> >>
> >> wes-e-wes
> >>
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