Fine with this

The important point as Kevin Kargel mentions is that there ARE use cases where 
security is not required and/or end-to-end security is not required and/or 
IPSec is not required.

Julien

-----Original Message-----
From: Bound, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: mardi 26 février 2008 13:24
To: Julien Abeille (jabeille); Thomas Narten
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Fred Baker (fred)
Subject: RE: Making IPsec *not* mandatory in Node Requirement

On the contrary some of the laser sensing capabilities now could be considered 
light so I guess it is what we mean by "light" technically or from a 
physics/scientific view I took it to be light controlled by sensors.

/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julien Abeille (jabeille) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:18 PM
> To: Thomas Narten
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bound, Jim; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Fred Baker (fred)
> Subject: RE: Making IPsec *not* mandatory in Node Requirement
>
> A sensor can only sense..., you are talking about a light actuator.
>
> Julien
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Narten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: mardi 26 février 2008 12:00
> To: Julien Abeille (jabeille)
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Fred Baker 
> (fred)
> Subject: Re: Making IPsec *not* mandatory in Node Requirement
>
> > - some applications might not require any security, e.g. a light 
> > sensor = in your flat might not need it and not implement
> it, also due
> > to the = very low cost of the sensor.
>
> I agree. There is absolutely no need to prevent my neighbor (or a bad 
> guy outside my window) from being able to control/influence light 
> sensors in my house. What possible harm could they do?
>
> Who needs security anyway!
>
> :-)
>
> Thomas
>
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