Agreed.
/jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julien Abeille (jabeille) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:21 PM
> To: Bound, Jim; Thomas Narten
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Fred Baker (fred)
> Subject: RE: Making IPsec *not* mandatory in Node Requirement
>
> Fine with this
>
> The important point as Kevin Kargel mentions is that there
> ARE use cases where security is not required and/or
> end-to-end security is not required and/or IPSec is not required.
>
> Julien
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bound, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: mardi 26 février 2008 13:24
> To: Julien Abeille (jabeille); Thomas Narten
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Fred Baker (fred)
> Subject: RE: Making IPsec *not* mandatory in Node Requirement
>
> On the contrary some of the laser sensing capabilities now
> could be considered light so I guess it is what we mean by
> "light" technically or from a physics/scientific view I took
> it to be light controlled by sensors.
>
> /jim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Julien Abeille (jabeille) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:18 PM
> > To: Thomas Narten
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bound, Jim; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Fred Baker (fred)
> > Subject: RE: Making IPsec *not* mandatory in Node Requirement
> >
> > A sensor can only sense..., you are talking about a light actuator.
> >
> > Julien
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Thomas Narten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: mardi 26 février 2008 12:00
> > To: Julien Abeille (jabeille)
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ipv6@ietf.org; Fred Baker
> > (fred)
> > Subject: Re: Making IPsec *not* mandatory in Node Requirement
> >
> > > - some applications might not require any security, e.g. a light
> > > sensor = in your flat might not need it and not implement
> > it, also due
> > > to the = very low cost of the sensor.
> >
> > I agree. There is absolutely no need to prevent my neighbor
> (or a bad
> > guy outside my window) from being able to control/influence light
> > sensors in my house. What possible harm could they do?
> >
> > Who needs security anyway!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Thomas
> >
>
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