Salaam alaikum,

Before any of the sisters condemn me for what I am about to say, let's make one 
thing clear, may those brothers deserve whatever punishment they get in this 
life and the next. Now that we have that out of the way, the quote:



Other divorced sisters that she knew all went on to remain single or did marry 
non-Muslim men.

Is an oxymoron. There is no such thing as a muslim woman marrying a non-muslim 
man. There maybe a piece of paper from the city, but I would take that piece of 
paper and wipe my backside with it. It is glorified fornication. That is all. 
Same with those brothers that do mutaa or whatever else they want to call it. 
But don't let your bad experiences with bad people make you a bad person too. 
Even if that bad person is a former husband (or wife for that matter). Rephrase 
the sentence to:

Other divorced sisters that she knew all went on to remain single or are in 
haram relations with kafirs.

Salaam alaikum

Z T


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: eGroup For Muslims Around The World <islamcity@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 12:52:51 AM
Subject: Re: Bismillah [IslamCity] Re: Proper ruling on multiple marriages

Jazak'Allaahao Khayran brother....you were specific.....quite detailed....you 
100% answered my questions.  I believe that you were the only one to provide 
the exact response that I needed....
 
In regards to the "walk away" phrase--it makes reference to the request for the 
khulu because the "brother" is financially secure and refused to support his 
most recent wife because she is educated.  He even refused to buy her a cup of 
coffee!   (Alhamdullilah, the imam granted her request last Monday for the 
khulu because her ex-husband was requesting for her to return the cost of her 
ring ($800) and additional monies totalling over $1500 (which she doesn't 
have).  The ring was part of the agreement as her only request as her mahr 
because she thought he was not financially capable of more.  He knew that she 
was unemployed and had promised to take care of her and her children until she 
found a job; but he went on to marry another sister who is supporting him.  
Nevertheless, he did leave a couple of his other wives financially secure 
(while the others, he simply walked away from the marriages).  
 
This is the sister's second failed marriage, and Inshaallah, she hopes to never 
marry again.  Other divorced sisters that she knew all went on to remain single 
or did marry non-Muslim men.
 
Inshaallah she will be able to find a job and be able to take care of her 
children.
 
Waa'Salaam Alaaikum brother

j786SURAH22

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bismillah [IslamCity] Re: Proper ruling on multiple marriages
To: "eGroup For Muslims Around The World" <islamcity@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, September 12, 2008, 8:01 PM







As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,
 
I think I will have to answer these questions because of what is coming up 
afterwards.. . so my answers are below after the questions in red colored text.
 
wa'l salaamu alaykum
 

Re: Proper ruling on multiple marriages 
From: J M 
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:36 AM
Subject: Proper ruling on multiple marriages

Asalamalaikum waa'rahmatullah waa'barakatuhu,

1. What is the proper ruling on multiple marriages? A man is allowed to marry 
up to four woman maximum, IF he can give them their rights and if he cannot 
then he is not allowed to marry more. Some of their (wives') rights are equal 
spending on each, equal time shared, equal treatment, their private residence 
(unless they agree to share one residence, but still then private rooms 
minimum). 

2. Can the man marry more than one woman at a time, and not inform the wives of 
each other? Yes he can, but it would better for him and them that he informs 
and talks with them first. It part of kind treatment that he talks his wife 
first to make it easier for her.

3. Can the woman seek khulu (without his permission to accept her decision to 
divorce) if she did not consent to a polygamous marriage or informed of other 
wives before she married the man? That depends on what took place before 
marriage. Did she ask him if he was single or did he state he was single? If he 
deceived her with his lieings then she has a valid reason for khula. You might 
have heard of a virginity case in france where the woman said she was chaste 
(virgin) before marrying the man but afterwards it was revealed that she lied 
so he took her to the court for a divorce and the french court granted on the 
premise of lieing of a condition (virginity) that was met to be married.

4. Can she walk away from the marriage where there has been deceit and 
non-financial support of her? What is walk away? just leave? she is still his 
wife and until there is a divorce or a khula, she remains his wife. If she is 
silent about it then she accepted it, so cannot just walk away. If she is ok 
with it then she has to ask for her rights.

I know what is Sunnah but some brothers have made mutaa marriages commonplace. 
Mutaa marriage of any kind is forbidden in Islam! There are other marriages, 
similar to mutah marriage, in egypt that is practiced and it is even worse than 
muta marriage because it is nothing but a front for a summer fling. The 
scholars of egypt have even spoken against this. 

Waa'Salaam

j786SURAH22 














      

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