A few things: 1. Dick, you guys rock. You do a fantastic job in the interviews, and I enjoy them immensely. Looking at the other thread after the BoF and questions, I would say that most appear to enjoy the interviews and the style. You're very well respected in the community, and this is just a minor thing overall.
2. ErIk, you are a big part of the "problem" here. I've seen nothing but flaming responses and sweeping judgements by yourself. Quite frankly, your position on the subject was derrogitorily clear from the beginning. Most people who read this are quite intelligent and stay away from heated, pointless discussions. Personally, all you have done is indicate clearly why Jigsaw is needed, and turned myself away from OSGI. 3. I have no evidence of this besides speaking with some co-workers and a couple of other friends. However, I think that most people have not heard of OSGI, and any attempt to make modularity happen within Java is a good thing. Like Dick, I don't really care how it is accomplished; having modularity in Java is something that will help Java move forward. --Ryan On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Chris Adamson <invalidn...@gmail.com>wrote: > > No, you guys are the perfect example of the problem. Just the same > way that SWT generated more zealots than applications, now we've got > OSGi advocacy-by-accusation... and still virtually no meaningful apps > to prove that this stuff is important, viable, or even worth caring > about. > > Just because something is in Eclipse, doesn't mean it is or should be > everyone else's standard. Making Eclipse the standard of value for > the Java community has been a disaster. > > I'm not picking a fight... I opted out of the Java world a long time > ago. I think it's just sad how you guys are self-destructing. Java > could have been so much more. > > --Chris > > On Jun 27, 9:59 am, Eric Newcomer <enewco...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Perfect example of the problem. > > > > There are no technical arguments for having two Java module systems, > > so the strategy is to pick a fight and blame the other guys. > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---