Chris,
I haven't read the whole thread, so this may have been said already,
but this is really reminiscent of what happened to smalltalk. The same
kind of religious wars without the wisdom of practical application or
cohesive vision.

Hopefully, we can move beyond it.

LES

On Jun 27, 4:14 pm, Chris Adamson <invalidn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's not one or two, and it's not immediate.  This kind of belligerent
> zealotry was something I saw frequently over the last few years when I
> was putting together the java.net front page every day.  Thing was, as
> the Editor, I couldn't publicly express how much I disliked this.
> Take a look at Peter Kriens' October 2006 screed "JSR 277 Review"
> <http://www.osgi.org/blog/2006/10/jsr-277-review.html>, and my hands-
> off summary in the java.net Editor's blog <http://weblogs.java.net/
> blog/editors/archives/2006/10/the_bones_of_an.html>.
>
> Not one or two.  Not immediate.  I got sick of these guys years ago,
> and I think they hurt the Java community with their behavior (which is
> where my analogy to SWT comes from: I think Desktop Java was mortally
> wounded by turning the widget set into a damned holy war, when the
> bigger problem was probably end-user deployment).
>
> --Chris
>
> On Jun 27, 2:34 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot <reini...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Chris, one or two OSGi zealots make some noise and you immediately
> > insinuate that 'the java community is self destructing'?  Don't you
> > realize that's kinda insulting?
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