Azeem wrote: >>Interestingly, while you are right that Hammer and Vanilla Ice were not criticised for being men, Vanilla Ice WAS heavily slated because of his colour. I don't know what this tells us<<
Jerry added: >>But (Vanilla Ice) he did get criticized for his race.<< Whatever it tells you and tells me is open to different interpretations, and that's cool. What it doesn't do is make it ok to use offensive sexist (tautology?) language against women and not men just because the guys are getting the flak over their 'race' (like 'gender', another social construct). I know Azeem and Jerry are not saying that it IS OK, but it is curious that their comments are so similar, or at least focus on the same thing, which could, I repeat could, be read as a justification, if one was in a pedantic mood. Which I'm not, but while I'm on the subject, let's not confuse 'race' with 'colour' either. mike in barcelona NP Pat Metheny Trio 99-00 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*.