Azeem wrote:

>>Interestingly, while you are right that Hammer and Vanilla Ice were not
criticised for being men, Vanilla Ice WAS heavily slated because of his
colour. I don't know what this tells us<<

Jerry added:

>>But (Vanilla Ice) he did get criticized for his race.<<

Whatever it tells you and tells me is open to different interpretations,
and that's cool. What it doesn't do is make it ok to use offensive sexist
(tautology?) language against women and not men just because the guys are
getting the flak over their 'race' (like 'gender', another social
construct). I know Azeem and Jerry are not saying that it IS OK, but it
is curious that their comments are so similar, or at least focus on the
same thing, which could, I repeat could, be read as a justification, if
one was in a pedantic mood. Which I'm not, but while I'm on the subject,
let's not confuse 'race' with 'colour' either.

mike in barcelona

NP Pat Metheny  Trio 99-00

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