I'm certainly not trying to squelch anyone. However, just because I
recognize the right off each to voice their opinion doesn't mean that I
think that one opinion is as good as another. Far from it. I will "dare to
be different" on this score: Some people's opinions flat-out suck.
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From: "Mark or Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: awww


> > I guess I just don't understand the difference in allowing someone to
> express
> > their discontent or disappointment with Joni's work, even as they
> acknowledge
> > that it's Joni's vision. It reeks of those high school days when kids
all
> > pretend to like the same bands/clothes/TV shows etc. so they can fit in,
> and
> > anyone who dares to be different is criticized.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong - I'm not comparing Joni to a couple of disposable
pop
> > sensations. I'm just addressing the concept that Joni's "realized
vision"
> may
> > not suit some people, even some of her most faithful lifelong admirers,
> and
> > that should be OK as opposed to a patronizing "awww".
>
> Of course Travelogue is not going to be everyone's cup of tea and most all
> of us have Joni albums that we prefer over others and some that we don't
> like at all.  Everyone has a right to their opinion and discussing what we
> like and don't like is fine.  What I have a problem with is people who
like
> to point out how she did it 'wrong' or what she 'should have done'.
Someone
> else posted that it isn't the critics job to force their own vision on a
> work of art.  Their job is to try and evaluate whether or not the artist
was
> successful in creating the vision that the *artist* was aiming for.  The
> critic also should comment on the quality of the execution of the various
> components - in the case of recorded music, the sound quality, the skill
of
> the playing or singing and the integrity of the whole.
>
> I can't understand how anybody who has followed Joni from the beginning of
> her career can say that any of her records were poorly conceived or put
> together or represent anything other than her total commitment to the
> project and her consummate skill as a writer, performer and musician.
There
> is nothing slip-shod about any of her records.  Whether you like all of
them
> or not is a different story.  But to make snide, glib comments about them
> and imply that you somehow would have known what *should* have been done
> seems incredibly egotistical and very annoying, imo.  I've trashed artists
> from time to time, I admit it.  But I really do get annoyed with critics
who
> publish in newspapers or magazines or give oral reviews on tv or radio who
> are much more concerned with 'skewering' and making witty, scathing
remarks
> than they are with actually doing any kind of real analysis or
constructive
> criticism.  There are people who use these excuses for reviews to decide
> whether or not they might see a certain film or buy a certain record.  And
I
> think that's a sad state of affairs all the way around.
>
> Mark E. in Seattle
> who would like to submit Rickie Lee Jones name for consideration as a
'poet'

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