Kory,

On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:30:32 EST Kory Krofft wrote:

> Brad,
> Here is what I can provide. I do not doubt you that  Leaf may not
> be the culprit.  I have removed the secondary DNS IP from the TCP
> config and run several of the tests you suggested. I noticed however
> that once I removed the IP I no longer am experiencing the lag.

Interesting.  If you haven't already, you may want to play with
"ipconfig /flushdns" (as suggested in an earlier post) and
"ipconfig /displaydns".

> It has only been a few hours so it may not be gone for good but time
> will tell. All I do know is that my Win 98 systems have never
> experienced the lag. I have never seen the lag in Win2K on any other
> network but mine.  See below for data.
> 
> Brad Fritz wrote:
> 
> > <Snip>
> >
> >  - tcpdump packet dumps with and without the RR name
> >    server in the Win2k DNS list,
> >
> Tcpdump is not currently at my disposal.

I am guessing that you don't have the means to install it
currently.  On the chance that you meant you just do not
have a copy, the kwarchive version of tcpdump.lrp from 
http://leaf.sf.net/pub/packages-list.html works well for me.
(It does not require a separate libpcap package.)
 
> C:\>ipconfig /all    (without secondary DNS)

  [output snipped]

I don't see anything out of the ordinary here.

> >C:\>ipconfig /all (With Sec. DNS)

  [output snipped]

Again all looks normal.

> >  - test results from nslookup on Win2k in addition to
> >    (or rather than) browser observations (where there
> >    are more variables to consider, e.g. proxy settings)
> >
> C:\>nslookup
> *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.1.254: Non-existent domain
> *** Default servers are not available
> Default Server:  UnKnown
> Address:  192.168.1.254
> 
> C:\> nslookup www.yahoo.net
> Server:  yahoo.com
> Addresses:  64.58.79.230, 66.218.71.198
> Aliases:  www.yahoo.net
> 
> DNS request timed out.
>     timeout was 2 seconds.

Interesting.  All my dnscache replies are listed as
non-authoritative.  E.g:

  C:\>nslookup www.yahoo.net
  *** Can't find server name for address 192.168.70.1: Non-existent domain
  *** Default servers are not available
  Server:  UnKnown
  Address:  192.168.70.1
  
  Non-authoritative answer:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  Name:    yahoo.com
  Addresses:  66.218.71.198, 64.58.79.230
  Aliases:  www.yahoo.net

And a packet capture shows dnscache (192.168.70.1:53) is really
being queried:

  lab:/tmp# tcpdump -n -i vmnet1
  tcpdump: listening on vmnet1
  23:08:06.923778 192.168.70.128.1061 > 192.168.70.1.53:  \
    1+ PTR? 1.70.168.192.in-addr.arpa. (43)
  23:08:06.924346 192.168.70.1.53 > 192.168.70.128.1061:  \
    1 NXDomain* 0/0/0 (43) (DF)
  23:08:07.033592 192.168.70.128.1062 > 192.168.70.1.53:  \
    2+ A? www.yahoo.net. (31)
  23:08:07.033973 192.168.70.1.53 > 192.168.70.128.1062:  \
    2 3/0/0 CNAME yahoo.com. (86) (DF)

I am curious if the answers to your nslookup queries are coming
from dnscache or a Win2K cache.  (There is no information for
www.yahoo.net in my "ipconfig /displaydns" output before or after
running "nslookup www.yahoo.net".)  Packet traces from your tests
would definitely help get us out of guessing mode on this one.

--Brad



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