Travis Pahl wrote, in part: > On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:20:49 -0800, Lowell C. Savage > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Two things. > > > > (1) If you bothered to read what I wrote previously (it is in this > message > > again) Bush did what he said he would do and did not do anything he said > he > > would not do wrt the AW ban. That doesn't meet any definition of "lie" > that > > I am aware of. After 8 years of parsing Clinton, "if it gets to my > desk, > > I'll sign it" is a model of clear political speech. For any reasonable > > person, it doesn't mean "I'll push it through Congress" or "I'll > campaign > > against politicians who vote against it" or "I'll lean on party members > to > > get it done." Your ideological enemies at the Brady Campaign, VPC, etc. > > were (and are) beside themselves with anger at Bush for "breaking his > > promise" because he didn't do all of those things that his statement did > not > > mean. In fact, a few of them even accuse the President of secretly > telling > > Congresscritters to make sure the bill didn't reach his desk. Had he > done > > so, it would not have violated his promise to "sign the bill." And, so > far > > as I know, he has not denied that he did so. Therefore, it is quite > > possible that he actually did lend some small pressure to keep the bill > off > > his desk. > > So you really beleive he would have signed it had it reached his desk? > If yes, then i apologize for misinterpretting your comments.
Yes. Even without his explicit promise to do so. After all, you can't name the bill he's vetoed. > > (2) You raised the "Bush lies" as part of a statement about his track > > record. Usually that means you are referring to "lies" other than any > > involving the topic at hand. > > His lies have been pretty well documented in the news, but the most > important one is often ignored... > > > So. I ask again. What lies has Bush told? > > The most important was the first sentance he said while taking office. > > "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of > President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, > preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States." Yeah, yeah, whatever. On that score, Badnarik would have become a liar the moment he took the oath, too. Lowell C. Savage It's the freedom, stupid! Gun control: tyrants' tool, fools' folly. _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
