In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Michael Renzmann wrote:
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> Well, *I* have no problems with adding a dhcpd, a bootp-server or
> something else to my very own network. But I will have problems if I
> force my clients to do so. If someone wants to buy and use the products
> I develop, they have to be user friendly. Forcing someone to extend his
Being user friendly could mean that you provide some dhcp/tftp/what-
ever-you-need server on the install media for your product. I have
bought product that were packaged that way. If you need a tool which
the customer will need and might not already have, then provide it.
> This is Microsoft style, but I´m not Microsoft.
But you help propagating this silly behaviour by accepting their rules.
Don't! Use open standards, and refuse to use proprietary, non-
standard solutions (at least when you have a choice - which you have
in the case we're discussing).
> In return, I cannot understand why some people can´t understand the wish
> for an comparable easy way to temporarily assign an IP to a device as
I perfectly understand this wish. Hey, I'm the main developer of the
PPCBoot (PowerPC firmware) project - I know what you need to set up
embedded systems.
Using a predefined default value; using some type of console
interface to manually enter one, using RARP or BOOTP / DHCP.
> suggested. Sure, there are DHCP, bootp and such things, but as stated
> before not every network has corresponding servers (and probably won´t
If this is just a one-time job when you install the devic, it should
be acceptable to use a "private" network with only the target and
your laptop in it.
> this task, agree. But forcing people to install them just in order to
> assign a 32bit value to a device, or forcing them to tweak the
> configuration of a pc for the same purpose if stone-age-behaviour.
C'me on, don't tell me what people have to do just to keep their win*
systems running.
> So I think this ´arp -s´ & ´ping´ thing as proposed by someone on this
> list is a fine add-on for the above described cases. If there is no such
> tool available by now, I will try to implement it as soon as I can spend
> some time on it.
So. You call changing a configuration "stone-age-behaviour". Now what
do you call re-inventing the wheel again, and badly? I can't help,
but at least that's wast of time to me.
Wolfgang Denk
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