Henry, maybe I needed to have put a disclaimer: Any opinions expressed or implied by me do not neessarily reflect the views of Infocom or its management.
But that said, I have not seen anyone on this list from that ISP you are on.... except for one sympathiser (names withheld). :-)
Have a nice weekend.


Kurup


Henry wrote:

Ok I get it
ISPs wont give us the broadband we want unless we justify the need to them
They will even go so far as to tell us how much we can have and what we
cannot afford ;-)
Sounds a lil like the fixed lines of a utl a couple of years ago
But all in good spirit
I now realize it takes a combined effort from several players
And that takes for a consumer "culture" to develop


Enter the universities
Put broadband at the universities ( there are so many nowadays!)
They will want it for the rest of their working lives
And a broadband culture will be born.

Hmk

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Tinka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Henry
Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB


On Friday 08 April 2005 09:50, Henry wrote:


And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear


audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person
streaming.



Not necessarily, depends on what codec you use (which would depend on what hardware you use). In some cases, the right player can help a great deal.


Quality is getting better with smaller pipes.



Ive learnt that Cheap is a relative term mfriend
The user decides which conveniences are worth paying for
Besides, you don't halt a project to build a 4 star hotel just because
there are cheaper alternatives ;-)



Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it


freely on his radio

1- An available forum for specialized channels
Eg: click on a button and get a replay for the capital gang show you


missed

This is on demand content - which is how the Internet works today. A website

will be there today, tomorrow and the next day, nothing new.

Putting up the audio clip may not cost the radio stations much, depending on

whether they are offering it as a download or a stream. Besides, lots of streaming/hosting companies in the developed world can offer you a T-1 connection for your content for less than $50/month.



2 - bcuz its there! Why shouldn't I use the company Bandwidth to view


clips


of a local football match while the boss accesses footage of his marketing
seminars, ( while we work )



Because like Kurup said, it costs your company. If the game you missed is on

an international server, your company (and your provider) have to expend expensive international capacity to bring the game to your PC.

If the game were on a local server, well, that's another thing.

ISP's are wary of "greedy customers", and may penalize your company on your behalf for abuse of service. But I digress...

Mark.





-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf


Of


Hari Kurup
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:58 AM
To: Linux Users Group Uganda
Subject: Re: [LUG] GMAIl now at 2GB

On Apr 7, 2005, at 6:39 PM, Henry wrote:


Isnt the onus on the providers to show the people what they can do
with the
service
Way the mobile operators keep telling us how we can check for the
weather
and stuff on our fons?

Eg: Don't you think radio/ tv operators would love for people to stream
local talk shows onto their computers at home and office ?
But who would dare to venture into such a "complex" process unless
they had
someone from MTN, infocom .. to hold their hand for the first few
sessions


They radio/tv operators certainly would be interested.
But as opposed to picking the signal off air with your TV or radio for
free, streaming requires bandwidth.
And it is not cheap, even if it is local bandwidth. A reasonably clear
audio stream (forget video) needs like 32Kbps for each person
streaming.
Who pays for it and why would someone pay anyway when he can pick it
freely on his radio.


Kurup

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