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Do u know a song called unbwoggable T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network "Markus A. Wipfler" <[email protected]> wrote: >Aren't you the chap who was banned from this list? > > >On1 Feb 2, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Cavin Mugarura wrote: > >> When doing a migration you have to use your brain >> >> Not scorched earth policy, by dousing every computer with windows with >> gasoline and setting it ablaze >> >> >> T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network >> >> "Markus A. Wipfler" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Interesting if you join a company you can convince them to migrate to Linux >>> >>> Why would you do that??? Imagine you are the new sys admin at xyz company >>> in charge of backend services running enterprise microsoft software like >>> Exchange, Active Directory, Sharepoint which are used by hundreds or >>> thousands of users. >>> Now since you love linux and believe that linux is like a super patch that >>> fixes any computer problem, you suggest to management that you want to >>> migrate all backend services to linux. I am not saying its impossible but >>> is it feasible? You can drive your car with your feet but it does't >>> necesarily make it a good idea. What I am saying is that just using Linux >>> for Linux sake is plain stupid. >>> >>> Remember a couple of years ago Germany's government tried to make a switch >>> to Linux (backend + frontend) which sadly failed and now they are back to >>> running windows. The problem in their case basically boiled down to 3 >>> issues: >>> >>> - hardware support (too many printers, scanners, etc.. just didn't work >>> when they where plugged into linux desktops / laptops and the amount of >>> support and time required to make them work) >>> - interoperability (its hard migrating away from proprietary software, >>> especially Ms Office / Exchange combo) >>> - training and user adoption (reluctancy of staff to use new, unfamiliar >>> software, cost / time of training staff) >>> >>> As far as I can see the best chance linux (AND Linux Admins) have here in >>> Uganda is in the market of SoHo and SME's. Here Linux could be used as a >>> cost effective and even superior alternative to propriatary software with a >>> relatively low learning curve for end users. (Employes still use outlook, >>> ms office but with linux backend, firewall, router, directory service, >>> intra/extra net,etc…) >>> >>> IMHO Linux will always be a niche OS. Why blindly advocate it to everyone? >>> It reminds me of some saved people I know, who believe everyone else is >>> going straight to hell if you don't join them. LOL. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> -- >>> Markus >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> If you fail to do so, blame yourself >>>> >>>> In my local language there's a saying "bamusella omukatale yatongana >>>> noruguddo" literally translated as "he was charged high prices at the >>>> market and he is now quarrelling with the road >>>> >>>> If you are referring to job posting s advertising for Microsoft skills >>>> that's another issue >>>> >>>> This issue is actually a side show >>>> What is more important is to promote Linux on a bigger scale in >>>> government, schools, private sector and non profits >>>> >>>> Of course outfits like LUG have tried but with dismal results >>>> >>>> Sometime back I wrote how entities like LUG, IT companies can work >>>> together and promote Linux but I guess my proposal fell on deaf ears >>>> >>>> LUG meetup s are good but most times when I look at the agenda, it s not >>>> different from a pastor preaching to a choir >>>> >>>> >>>> "Stephen S. Musoke" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ronald, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are wrong. Windows flourishes because it is already at the desktop, so >>>>> is much easier to integrate at the Server end. Truth be told, Windows is >>>>> becoming better at the backend and is also very good at integrating with >>>>> Linux/Unix (MSFT/Novelle) partnership. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You will not find a truly homogenous environment, you will find Windows >>>>> for >>>>> File/Print/Active Directory and *nix at the database and application >>>>> server >>>>> levels, and in virtualized applicatons. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Stephen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>>> Of >>>>> Ronald Kato Odongo >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:37 AM >>>>> To: Uganda Linux User Group >>>>> Subject: Re: [LUG] Does Uganda have a demand for Linux Administrators? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It would be be up to us interested in Linux administration to go out and >>>>> offer it as an alternative to Windows. Windows is flourishing due in part >>>>> to >>>>> ignorance about Linux technologies. If we pushed Linux harder into the >>>>> market, then the market would realize it's enormous advantage over >>>>> windows. >>>>> Sometimes the best products are ignored because not enough has been put in >>>>> promoting them. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Robert Muwanga <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On a curious note, I have seen a lot of companies that utilise Microsoft >>>>> Server backend systems but unless it is the big telco boys (and banks) I >>>>> haven't heard of an interest in Linux for either backend or front end in >>>>> Uganda in particular. >>>>> >>>>> So, the question is, what's people's opinion with regards on the demand >>>>> for >>>>> Linux in Uganda? is it rising? is it shrinking or stagnant? And in effect, >>>>> what is the demand for Linux administrators in the country? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>> >>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>> >>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>> >>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >>>>> any way. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Thanks and Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Ronald Kato Odongo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>> >>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>> >>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>> >>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >>>>> any way. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>> >>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>> [email protected] >>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>> >>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>> >>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >>>> any way. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>> >>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] >>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>> >>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> >>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >>> any way. >> _______________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >> any way. > >_______________________________________________ >The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] >Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any >way. _______________________________________________ The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: [email protected] Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way.
