I would add Richard Savino to the list. He is very active and, in my view ,
quite successful.
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On Aug 12, 2013, at 10:45 AM, William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> With all due respect to Messrs North, O'Dette, Barto and
> Smith ('NOBS' for short- sounds rude but better than 'SNOB' I think) ,
> there are a LOT of younger lutenists who are every bit as good as they
> were at that age. What the younger ones lack is the immense experience
> and judgement of the old guard ('old'? Sheesh! They're all younger
> than me!). When these guys were in their 20s they had few rivals.
> Most of the older lutenists from the post-Dolmetsch era weren't the
> greatest performers (Bream being an exception) though they were right
> up there with their musicology and teaching ability. The intervening
> generation produced Rooley, Tyler, Bailes and of course Schaeffer and
> Dombois - but that was about it* - so there were many more opportunites
> for them than there are now. That was still the case for the young
> NOBSs.
>
> Nowadays, of course, there are very many more great quality lutenists
> than there were forty years ago, but there's not nearly enough work to
> go round to keep them all busy as concert performers. Probably their
> best hope of earning a crust is through teaching - either in academia
> or with private students - and grabbing a performing opportunity when
> it presents itself.
>
> I can't really see any way out of supply outstripping demand - 'the
> economics of the market-place'. Of course this makes it a cut-throat
> business to be in; something nobody thinks about very much when they
> enrol at college to study music.
>
> Bill
>
> * Apologies for any names I have inadvertently omitted - old age, you
> know . . .
> From: Christopher Wilke <chriswi...@yahoo.com>
> To: t...@heartistrymusic.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Stephen Stubbs
> <fartrea...@gmail.com>
> Cc: 'Stephen Stubbs' <fartrea...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013, 15:00
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
> Stephen,
> I think you are correct. This is essentially what I was getting at
> about the concert fee for less-than-established artists. Paul O'Dette,
> Hoppy Smith, Nigel North and Bob Barto are all about the same age. When
> they were my age, they were already well regarded. Looking around,
> however, I know of no lute players in my age group who have comparably
> established reputations. Make no mistake: all of these guys are still
> making interesting, vital music of the highest caliber. I hope and
> expect they will continue to do so for many years to come.
> But there has to be fertile ground to nourish a new guard, too. The
> big guys may not be getting all they're worth, but, at the fees offered
> to the second string players, concertizing can be downright unfeasible.
> If players can't get out in front of people, it is hard to build a
> following. Once the four players mentioned at the top of this message
> become less active, will there be players to take their places?
> Chris
> Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
> Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
> www.christopherwilke.com
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 8/12/13, Stephen Stubbs <[1]fartrea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
> To: [2]t...@heartistrymusic.com, [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Cc: "'Stephen Stubbs'" <[4]fartrea...@gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, August 12, 2013, 9:24 AM
> [Stephen]
> There is an interesting book by Phyllis Tickle entitled The
> Great
> Emergence. It deals with modern Christianity and how
> it is evolving.
> I think her main theme applies to the lute world as
> well. The
> 'traditionalist' or 'fundamentalist' lute group will
> decline, and a
> rise of a 'hybrid' (Phyllis had another term for this, but
> I've
> forgotten what it was) lute group will occur. If not,
> the lute will
> slowly fade away.
> The lute world needs to reach out to the non-traditional
> audience.
> The SCA and the followers of Sting are a prime resource that
> should be
> cultivated and encouraged.
> For What It's Worth
> "The Other" Stephen Stubbs
> Champaign, IL USA
> "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain
> security will
> not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
> Benjamin Franklin (American Statesman, Scientist,
> Philosopher,
> Printer, Writer, and Inventor. 1706-1790)
> -----Original Message-----
> [Tom] Are we trying creatively to increase
> general audience for lute
> music here, or are we practicing exclusivity? I'm looking at
> SCA and
> Ren Faires solely as a group of potential music buyers. Why
> not
> encourage the interest and point it in the right direction?
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>
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> 2. mailto:t...@heartistrymusic.com
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