Amber Robey wrote:
Hi Brian,

On 17-Jan-06, at 6:11 PM, Brian Mahoney wrote:

The bigger question would be : how does cable compare to dsl?

Well, I live in Vancouver, B.C. so we have the choice between Shaw cable internet and Telus DSL. I chose Shaw 3 years ago and have enjoyed great service ever since. It has only gone out a couple of times for very brief periods during that time. They are very fast to get it up and running again and the tech support is great most of the time.

My dad and a few friends have Telus DSL and have no end of problems. Sometimes they had no service for days, although apparently it is getting better. Also, the hold times were over an hour at times ! I would never go with Telus on this.

I've got Shaw for cable and Telus for DSL. The Telus techies never seemed to have a problem when I told them I have a mac (*back on topic!!*) but the Shaw guys just looked at me strangely.

Very good service with Telus DSL but here's the kicker - they won't let you have *just* DSL... you have to pay a $10-$15 monthly 'line maintenance fee' if you want to get rid of your phone and use only DSL. They may waive that if you have/get a Telus cellphone contract, though. And they're near-impossible to get to change the physical phone line if it craps out (basically, they'll fix the line from the outside right to the outer wall of the building... then it's the landlord's cost responsibility from the inner wall to the plug and the tenant's from the plug to the mac).

One of the major reasons I went VOiP in the first place was 'cause the voice quality on the land line was very static-y (though it never seemed to affect internet connection) and my landlord has no desire to pay for that upgrade.

Shaw, on the other hand, completely and quickly changed my physical cable from the junction box to the TV. But when I tried to switch to their internet service the techie showed up with a modem, couldn't figure out how to really plug it in to get it working and didn't know anything about macs (I figured if I'm paying them $69 for installation, I might as well sit back and have him configure the modem and my mac). So I phoned up the Shaw techies and the first guy insisted that their modems and macs 'weren't supported'. Um. OK. Buy-bye cable internet :-)

My present VOiP company seems to strongly prefer DSL over cable in my talks with their techies about improving voice quality. But I can't figure out why, exactly, in simple words I can understand. But it seems some of them at the company are mac-owners (*sorta on topic!!*).

I was horrified to find out, though, that there doesn't seem to be a strong correlation between being a mac-owner and working for a VOiP company that actually has very good voice quality :::gasp:::. (*sorta kinda on topic!!*).


The next question for dsl folks is : how do you get a voip line by itself without having bell as your normal phone company?

See above.

Basically, I guess they just do some wire switching in the boxes (I live in an apartment building) and take you off Telus and put you on Shaw's lines. They ask you if you want to keep your number or change it. I opted to change it as I want to try and get rid of some harassing phone callers.

Caveat: if your front door security system in your building relies on your phone line, make sure it'll work with Shaw. There have been some sad would-be VOiPers out there who can't control their apartment building buzzer without an active land line connection.

Now... when I get outstanding voice quality in a small VOiP adapter that I can plug discretely into my new 3rd Generation Intel-based G5 lap top (which, who knows, may have a VOiP chip inside) so I can run around the world and carry my phone number with me while on my exciting assignments... I'll be very please <-- *more on topic maybe!!* WoO wOo :::throws up hands in feeble triumph, turns to tap dance out stage left, falls right into orchestra pit in a billow of dust:::

B.

shutting up now.


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