thank you! I will buy the used edition from Amazon. Have you ever heard Niel Degrassi Tyson on time travel..etc. Superluminal? Anyway, fodder for another conversation.
swwweeeet! On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > "…I am hoping in a loophole around the speed of light!…." – CB > > I listened to the author a few years back on C-SPAN. Quite bright and > interesting. If you want to feed your 'wishful thinking', you may > enjoy it. > > http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257 > > Yes, Culver had it's high and low aspects. I did like running up to > the topgallant! > > > On Nov 7, 1:22 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Plotinus! i know that name:) Atomism... we really need to change the > > thread on this one some time. I circle around string/branes just > > because I am hoping in a loophole around the speed of light! wishful > > thinking but you never know... > > > > the other link about Culver Academy looks interesting. Sending > > daughter to CampQuest when she is old enough.. > > > > got to go...have nice weekend Orn:) > > > > On Nov 6, 3:47 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > "Naive longing for an apparently different person?" – CB > > > > > It appears to me that many who say they are feeling romantic are in > > > fact just projecting upon what they see as a 'separate' person their > > > inner longing to the 'return' I later talked about. > > > > > "Romance as I see it is the chemical processes that create longing/ > > > desire...Help?" – CB > > > > > Well, the best help I can come up with at the moment is that that > > > which decided to make that analysis about romance and chemical > > > processes was not mere chemical processes. Nor was it mere longing/ > > > desire. > > > > > "ARE we getting into time here?" – CB > > > > > Not exactly. > > > > > " Eternity? Is time only measurable in local reference?" – CB > > > > > Relativity has it's function and is not the all. > > > > > "We don't have the capacity to measure eternity do we?" – CB > > > > > With what would you even try to measure it? This is my point. > > > > > " I smell string theory!" – CB > > > > > While I have dabbled a very little with strings/m-branes etc., no, as > > > interesting as the ancient math, which is at the foundation of the > > > current mental machinations about 'strings', I left math behind when I > > > recognized it's subjective nature. And, after the 28 pages of text and > > > 2 weeks of class proving 1+1=2. > > > > > "…not sure what you mean by reference to the one. Is that the particle > > > theory that there is a smallest of particles in everything in the > > > universe? Set me some markers for this one and I will happily > > > follow:)" – CB > > > > > Well, not sure you will want to. And, while uncertainty and differing > > > forms of atomism, new and old are of interest to me, I was pointing at > > > the absolute. Since we are using words here to communicate, I won't > > > immediately retreat into negative theology. The entire notion has been > > > known and approached 'forever'. For a quick overview from one ancient > > > source of this hypostasis, see:http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/plotinus.htm > > > > > So, thanks for your willingness to come this far. Not being > > > evangelical nor theistic, I make no demands upon the length of your > > > 'trip' into these waters. : - ) > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:38 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Naive longing for an apparently different person? not sure what you > mean > > > > there. Rephrase? Romance as I see it is the chemical processes that > create > > > > longing/desire...Help? > > > > > > ARE we getting into time here? Eternity? Is time only measurable in > local > > > > reference? We don't have the capacity to measure eternity do we? I > smell > > > > string theory! not sure what you mean by reference to the one. Is > that the > > > > particle theory that there is a smallest of particles in everything > in the > > > > universe? Set me some markers for this one and I will happily > follow:) > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, ornamentalmind < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > "…romance is ephemeral at best,…" – CB > > > > > > > IF by 'romance' you mean the naïve longing for an apparently > different > > > > > person, of course you are correct. ALL things have a beginning, > middle > > > > > and end. However, IF one is searching for the return to 'the One', > > > > > then it is a proposition having to do with eternity. > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:06 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I might also add, I think I am becoming a sourpuss, or at least > the kind > > > > > of > > > > > > person that believes romance is ephemeral at best, therefore, > unlikely to > > > > > > continue throught time with the same strength, but an ebb and > flow... > > > > > > Sometimes the flow goes down the drain!! > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:58 PM, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > NICE................ > > > > > > > > > Romantic fantasies? too bad so many logicians view emotion as > > > > > > > weakness...instead of examining them, and reveling in them! > Control, > > > > > > > control, control! Logic, logic, logic! Methinks it gets worn > thin, > > > > > dry, > > > > > > > and not fun:) Ha, ironic that a logic machine takes us to the > moon > > > > > while > > > > > > > the astronauts heart is blazing. They seem to do best if > wrapped > > > > > together! > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:43 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Truth is I saw precious little eye contact. And, it was a > different > > > > > > >> era... much easier to hold romantic fantasies within one's > reverie. > > > > > > > > >> By the way Ezio, as well as Mary of course, was well known in > that > > > > > > >> era. I remember all of this! : - ) > > > > > > > > >> And then the musical association from Gigi arose… "Ah, Yes, I > Remember > > > > > > >> It Well". A truly simpler and more naïve time… for many of us > in the > > > > > > >> US. > > > > > > > > >>http://er.neoxer.com/lyrics/gigi.html > > > > > > > > >> On Nov 6, 10:21 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > >> > Did you see how the dude was looking at her? I can't help > but think > > > > > he > > > > > > >> was > > > > > > >> > imagining an alien under her skin! I laughed out of my > chair:) > > > > > > > > >> > Liked it though. > > > > > > > > >> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > Bliss!!!! > > > > > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qpQb11YWc > > > > > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOG2x6xhbhM > > > > > > > > >> > > On Nov 6, 9:43 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > Irrevocably romantic, but I don't like it that way most > of the > > > > > > >> time:) > > > > > > >> > > But, > > > > > > >> > > > saying that, admit I can explore emotion without losing > my grand > > > > > > >> anchor > > > > > > >> > > of > > > > > > >> > > > logic! > > > > > > > > >> > > > Yes, lyrics are spot on. Some consider it naivete and > > > > > illogical. > > > > > > >> It has > > > > > > >> > > > always kept me from giving up:) Music! ah, my favorite > > > > > emotional > > > > > > >> > > vehicle. > > > > > > >> > > > Words and music together? BLISS! > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Yes, an optimist to the core:)" – CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Yes, I hesitated because of the current feeling of > 'hope'. > > > > > > >> However, I > > > > > > >> > > > > know it is temporary. > > > > > > >> > > > > A song came to mind for 'ya.' I remember when the > musical > > > > > first > > > > > > >> came > > > > > > >> > > > > out. I liked this and the rest of 'em too. > > > > > > >http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/acockeyedoptimist.htm > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…weaknesses in space, as we don't have enough > research on it > > > > > > >> yet." – > > > > > > >> > > > > CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > While I do understand what you mean here, I disagree. > The > > > > > > >> 'research' > > > > > > >> > > > > to date all points one way. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Just think how different that humanity would > be...Spacers." > > > > > – CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Again, while I love SF too, ………….. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Syonara Blue Planet:)" – CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > First, I didn't miss all of your 'if's used prior to > this. > > > > > > >> Secondly, > > > > > > >> > > > > even IF this were possible and humanity doesn't > destroy itself > > > > > > >> soon, I > > > > > > >> > > > > would draw an analogy with the leak at Sverdlovsk in > 1979. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…my sweetest wish it to live long enough to see it > all > > > > > happen. > > > > > > >> Ah, > > > > > > >> > > > > well:)" – CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Ahhh, a romantic too, eh?! : - ) > > > > > > > > >> > http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/someenchantedevening.htm > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Nov 6, 9:05 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > It does not matter if I like the answer - just that > I get > > > > > one:) > > > > > > >> > > Funny, > > > > > > >> > > > > last > > > > > > >> > > > > > week I would have agreed with you about the > diminishing role > > > > > of > > > > > > >> US in > > > > > > >> > > > > > space. Now, I will take a rain check on it and see > what > > > > > gives > > > > > > >> in the > > > > > > >> > > > > next > > > > > > >> > > > > > four. Yes, an optimist to the core:) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Woman in space? I know we can take higher sustained > G's, but > > > > > had > > > > > > >> not > > > > > > >> > > > > > lent credence to proposed weaknesses in space, as we > don't > > > > > have > > > > > > >> > > enough > > > > > > >> > > > > > research on it yet. Adaptation in space is buggers > for > > > > > anyone > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > >> > > only a > > > > > > >> > > > > > generational route can make that adaptation feasible > > > > > physically > > > > > > >> and > > > > > > >> > > > > > psychologically. I mean, how are they going to get > around > > > > > bone > > > > > > >> > > density? > > > > > > >> > > > > one > > > > > > >> > > > > > avenue is genetic engineering to evolve a > musculoskeletal > > > > > human > > > > > > >> that > > > > > > >> > > can > > > > > > >> > > > > > take deep space. Could never stand Earth G > afterword > > > > > though, so > > > > > > >> > > space > > > > > > >> > > > > would > > > > > > >> > > > > > be your home. Just think how different that > humanity would > > > > > > >> > > be...Spacers. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > One thing that I hope develops quickly is this > composite > > > > > NASA > > > > > > >> has > > > > > > >> > > been > > > > > > >> > > > > > working on (for years) that combats radiation. 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