I hope you find it of interest. Of course, there is much else on the market in this area of study.
“Have you ever heard Niel Degrassi Tyson on time travel..etc. Superluminal?…” – CB I’ll assume you meant Neil DegrassE Tyson. And, yes, I’ve heard him speak on numerous occasions. I find him very bright, erudite and agile; however, his facile style bothers me a little in that I smell a bit of the believer within him when it comes to having sipped the Kool- Aid of materialism. On Nov 10, 6:47 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thank you! I will buy the used edition from Amazon. Have you ever heard > Niel Degrassi Tyson on time travel..etc. Superluminal? Anyway, fodder for > another conversation. > > swwweeeet! > > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > "…I am hoping in a loophole around the speed of light!…." – CB > > > I listened to the author a few years back on C-SPAN. Quite bright and > > interesting. If you want to feed your 'wishful thinking', you may > > enjoy it. > > >http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257 > > > Yes, Culver had it's high and low aspects. I did like running up to > > the topgallant! > > > On Nov 7, 1:22 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Plotinus! i know that name:) Atomism... we really need to change the > > > thread on this one some time. I circle around string/branes just > > > because I am hoping in a loophole around the speed of light! wishful > > > thinking but you never know... > > > > the other link about Culver Academy looks interesting. Sending > > > daughter to CampQuest when she is old enough.. > > > > got to go...have nice weekend Orn:) > > > > On Nov 6, 3:47 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "Naive longing for an apparently different person?" – CB > > > > > It appears to me that many who say they are feeling romantic are in > > > > fact just projecting upon what they see as a 'separate' person their > > > > inner longing to the 'return' I later talked about. > > > > > "Romance as I see it is the chemical processes that create longing/ > > > > desire...Help?" – CB > > > > > Well, the best help I can come up with at the moment is that that > > > > which decided to make that analysis about romance and chemical > > > > processes was not mere chemical processes. Nor was it mere longing/ > > > > desire. > > > > > "ARE we getting into time here?" – CB > > > > > Not exactly. > > > > > " Eternity? Is time only measurable in local reference?" – CB > > > > > Relativity has it's function and is not the all. > > > > > "We don't have the capacity to measure eternity do we?" – CB > > > > > With what would you even try to measure it? This is my point. > > > > > " I smell string theory!" – CB > > > > > While I have dabbled a very little with strings/m-branes etc., no, as > > > > interesting as the ancient math, which is at the foundation of the > > > > current mental machinations about 'strings', I left math behind when I > > > > recognized it's subjective nature. And, after the 28 pages of text and > > > > 2 weeks of class proving 1+1=2. > > > > > "…not sure what you mean by reference to the one. Is that the particle > > > > theory that there is a smallest of particles in everything in the > > > > universe? Set me some markers for this one and I will happily > > > > follow:)" – CB > > > > > Well, not sure you will want to. And, while uncertainty and differing > > > > forms of atomism, new and old are of interest to me, I was pointing at > > > > the absolute. Since we are using words here to communicate, I won't > > > > immediately retreat into negative theology. The entire notion has been > > > > known and approached 'forever'. For a quick overview from one ancient > > > > source of this hypostasis, see:http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/plotinus.htm > > > > > So, thanks for your willingness to come this far. Not being > > > > evangelical nor theistic, I make no demands upon the length of your > > > > 'trip' into these waters. : - ) > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:38 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Naive longing for an apparently different person? not sure what you > > mean > > > > > there. Rephrase? Romance as I see it is the chemical processes that > > create > > > > > longing/desire...Help? > > > > > > ARE we getting into time here? Eternity? Is time only measurable in > > local > > > > > reference? We don't have the capacity to measure eternity do we? I > > smell > > > > > string theory! not sure what you mean by reference to the one. Is > > that the > > > > > particle theory that there is a smallest of particles in everything > > in the > > > > > universe? Set me some markers for this one and I will happily > > follow:) > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, ornamentalmind < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > "…romance is ephemeral at best,…" – CB > > > > > > > IF by 'romance' you mean the naïve longing for an apparently > > different > > > > > > person, of course you are correct. ALL things have a beginning, > > middle > > > > > > and end. However, IF one is searching for the return to 'the One', > > > > > > then it is a proposition having to do with eternity. > > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:06 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I might also add, I think I am becoming a sourpuss, or at least > > the kind > > > > > > of > > > > > > > person that believes romance is ephemeral at best, therefore, > > unlikely to > > > > > > > continue throught time with the same strength, but an ebb and > > flow... > > > > > > > Sometimes the flow goes down the drain!! > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:58 PM, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > NICE................ > > > > > > > > > Romantic fantasies? too bad so many logicians view emotion as > > > > > > > > weakness...instead of examining them, and reveling in them! > > Control, > > > > > > > > control, control! Logic, logic, logic! Methinks it gets worn > > thin, > > > > > > dry, > > > > > > > > and not fun:) Ha, ironic that a logic machine takes us to the > > moon > > > > > > while > > > > > > > > the astronauts heart is blazing. They seem to do best if > > wrapped > > > > > > together! > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:43 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Truth is I saw precious little eye contact. And, it was a > > different > > > > > > > >> era... much easier to hold romantic fantasies within one's > > reverie. > > > > > > > > >> By the way Ezio, as well as Mary of course, was well known in > > that > > > > > > > >> era. I remember all of this! : - ) > > > > > > > > >> And then the musical association from Gigi arose… "Ah, Yes, I > > Remember > > > > > > > >> It Well". A truly simpler and more naïve time… for many of us > > in the > > > > > > > >> US. > > > > > > > > >>http://er.neoxer.com/lyrics/gigi.html > > > > > > > > >> On Nov 6, 10:21 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > Did you see how the dude was looking at her? I can't help > > but think > > > > > > he > > > > > > > >> was > > > > > > > >> > imagining an alien under her skin! I laughed out of my > > chair:) > > > > > > > > >> > Liked it though. > > > > > > > > >> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > Bliss!!!! > > > > > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qpQb11YWc > > > > > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOG2x6xhbhM > > > > > > > > >> > > On Nov 6, 9:43 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > Irrevocably romantic, but I don't like it that way most > > of the > > > > > > > >> time:) > > > > > > > >> > > But, > > > > > > > >> > > > saying that, admit I can explore emotion without losing > > my grand > > > > > > > >> anchor > > > > > > > >> > > of > > > > > > > >> > > > logic! > > > > > > > > >> > > > Yes, lyrics are spot on. Some consider it naivete and > > > > > > illogical. > > > > > > > >> It has > > > > > > > >> > > > always kept me from giving up:) Music! ah, my favorite > > > > > > emotional > > > > > > > >> > > vehicle. > > > > > > > >> > > > Words and music together? BLISS! > > > > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > > >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Yes, an optimist to the core:)" – CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Yes, I hesitated because of the current feeling of > > 'hope'. > > > > > > > >> However, I > > > > > > > >> > > > > know it is temporary. > > > > > > > >> > > > > A song came to mind for 'ya.' I remember when the > > musical > > > > > > first > > > > > > > >> came > > > > > > > >> > > > > out. I liked this and the rest of 'em too. > > > > > > >http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/acockeyedoptimist.htm > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…weaknesses in space, as we don't have enough > > research on it > > > > > > > >> yet." – > > > > > > > >> > > > > CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > While I do understand what you mean here, I disagree. > > The > > > > > > > >> 'research' > > > > > > > >> > > > > to date all points one way. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Just think how different that humanity would > > be...Spacers." > > > > > > – CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Again, while I love SF too, ………….. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Syonara Blue Planet:)" – CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > First, I didn't miss all of your 'if's used prior to > > this. > > > > > > > >> Secondly, > > > > > > > >> > > > > even IF this were possible and humanity doesn't > > destroy itself > > > > > > > >> soon, I > > > > > > > >> > > > > would draw an analogy with the leak at Sverdlovsk in > > 1979. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…my sweetest wish it to live long enough to see it > > all > > > > > > happen. > > > > > > > >> Ah, > > > > > > > >> > > > > well:)" – CB > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Ahhh, a romantic too, eh?! : - ) > > >http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/someenchantedevening.htm > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Nov 6, 9:05 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > It does not matter if I like the answer - just that > > I get > > > > > > one:) > > > > > > > >> > > Funny, > > > > > > > >> > > > > last > > > > > > > >> > > > > > week I would have agreed with you about the > > diminishing role > > > > > > of > > > > > > > >> US > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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