Same guy, one universe removed, hence the percieved spelling butchery.

possible and probable on the Koolaid.  Ever notice he usually wears the
crazy vest everywhere?  bet it has koolaid stains:)

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:39 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> I hope you find it of interest. Of course, there is much else on the
> market in this area of study.
>
> "Have you ever heard Niel Degrassi Tyson on time travel..etc.
> Superluminal?…" – CB
>
> I'll assume you meant Neil DegrassE Tyson. And, yes, I've heard him
> speak on numerous occasions. I find him very bright, erudite and
> agile; however, his facile style bothers me a little in that I smell a
> bit of the believer within him when it comes to having sipped the Kool-
> Aid of materialism.
>
>
>
> On Nov 10, 6:47 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > thank you! I will buy the used edition from Amazon.  Have you ever heard
> > Niel Degrassi Tyson on time travel..etc. Superluminal? Anyway, fodder for
> > another conversation.
> >
> > swwweeeet!
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 5:50 PM, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "…I am hoping in a loophole around the speed of light!…." – CB
> >
> > > I listened to the author a few years back on C-SPAN. Quite bright and
> > > interesting. If you want to feed your 'wishful thinking', you may
> > > enjoy it.
> >
> > >http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257
> >
> > > Yes, Culver had it's high and low aspects. I did like running up to
> > > the topgallant!
> >
> > > On Nov 7, 1:22 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Plotinus! i know that name:) Atomism... we really need to change the
> > > > thread on this one some time.  I circle around string/branes just
> > > > because I am hoping in a loophole around the speed of light! wishful
> > > > thinking but you never know...
> >
> > > > the other link about Culver Academy looks interesting.  Sending
> > > > daughter to CampQuest when she is old enough..
> >
> > > > got to go...have nice weekend Orn:)
> >
> > > > On Nov 6, 3:47 pm, ornamentalmind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > "Naive longing for an apparently different person?" – CB
> >
> > > > > It appears to me that many who say they are feeling romantic are in
> > > > > fact just projecting upon what they see as a 'separate' person
> their
> > > > > inner longing to the 'return' I later talked about.
> >
> > > > > "Romance as I see it is the chemical processes that create longing/
> > > > > desire...Help?" – CB
> >
> > > > > Well, the best help I can come up with at the moment is that that
> > > > > which decided to make that analysis about romance and chemical
> > > > > processes was not mere chemical processes. Nor was it mere longing/
> > > > > desire.
> >
> > > > >  "ARE we getting into time here?" – CB
> >
> > > > > Not exactly.
> >
> > > > > " Eternity? Is time only measurable in local reference?" – CB
> >
> > > > > Relativity has it's function and is not the all.
> >
> > > > > "We don't have the capacity to measure eternity do we?" – CB
> >
> > > > > With what would you even try to measure it? This is my point.
> >
> > > > > " I smell string theory!" – CB
> >
> > > > > While I have dabbled a very little with strings/m-branes etc., no,
> as
> > > > > interesting as the ancient math, which is at the foundation of the
> > > > > current mental machinations about 'strings', I left math behind
> when I
> > > > > recognized it's subjective nature. And, after the 28 pages of text
> and
> > > > > 2 weeks of class proving 1+1=2.
> >
> > > > > "…not sure what you mean by reference to the one. Is that the
> particle
> > > > > theory that there is a smallest of particles in everything in the
> > > > > universe? Set me some markers for this one and I will happily
> > > > > follow:)" – CB
> >
> > > > > Well, not sure you will want to. And, while uncertainty and
> differing
> > > > > forms of atomism, new and old are of interest to me, I was pointing
> at
> > > > > the absolute. Since we are using words here to communicate, I won't
> > > > > immediately retreat into negative theology. The entire notion has
> been
> > > > > known and approached 'forever'. For a quick overview from one
> ancient
> > > > > source of this hypostasis, see:
> http://www.iep.utm.edu/p/plotinus.htm
> >
> > > > > So, thanks for your willingness to come this far. Not being
> > > > > evangelical nor theistic, I make no demands upon the length of your
> > > > > 'trip' into these waters. : - )
> >
> > > > > On Nov 6, 12:38 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Naive longing for an apparently different person? not sure what
> you
> > > mean
> > > > > > there.  Rephrase? Romance as I see it is the chemical processes
> that
> > > create
> > > > > > longing/desire...Help?
> >
> > > > > > ARE we getting into time here? Eternity? Is time only measurable
> in
> > > local
> > > > > > reference? We don't have the capacity to measure eternity do we?
> I
> > > smell
> > > > > > string theory!  not sure what you mean by reference to the one.
>  Is
> > > that the
> > > > > > particle theory that there is a smallest of particles in
> everything
> > > in the
> > > > > > universe? Set me some markers for this one and I will happily
> > > follow:)
> >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:30 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > "…romance is ephemeral at best,…" – CB
> >
> > > > > > > IF by 'romance' you mean the naïve longing for an apparently
> > > different
> > > > > > > person, of course you are correct. ALL things have a beginning,
> > > middle
> > > > > > > and end. However, IF one is searching for the return to 'the
> One',
> > > > > > > then it is a proposition having to do with eternity.
> >
> > > > > > > On Nov 6, 12:06 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > I might also add, I think I am becoming a sourpuss, or at
> least
> > > the kind
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > person that believes romance is ephemeral at best, therefore,
> > > unlikely to
> > > > > > > > continue throught time with the same strength, but an ebb and
> > > flow...
> > > > > > > > Sometimes the flow goes down the drain!!
> >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:58 PM, CrossBow <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > NICE................
> >
> > > > > > > > > Romantic fantasies? too bad so many logicians view emotion
> as
> > > > > > > > > weakness...instead of examining them, and reveling in them!
> > > Control,
> > > > > > > > > control, control!  Logic, logic, logic!  Methinks it gets
> worn
> > > thin,
> > > > > > > dry,
> > > > > > > > > and not fun:)  Ha, ironic that a logic machine takes us to
> the
> > > moon
> > > > > > > while
> > > > > > > > > the astronauts heart is blazing.  They seem to do best if
> > > wrapped
> > > > > > > together!
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:43 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > >> Truth is I saw precious little eye contact. And, it was a
> > > different
> > > > > > > > >> era... much easier to hold romantic fantasies within one's
> > > reverie.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> By the way Ezio, as well as Mary of course, was well known
> in
> > > that
> > > > > > > > >> era. I remember all of this! : - )
> >
> > > > > > > > >> And then the musical association from Gigi arose… "Ah,
> Yes, I
> > > Remember
> > > > > > > > >> It Well". A truly simpler and more naïve time… for many of
> us
> > > in the
> > > > > > > > >> US.
> >
> > > > > > > > >>http://er.neoxer.com/lyrics/gigi.html
> >
> > > > > > > > >> On Nov 6, 10:21 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > Did you see how the dude was looking at her? I can't
> help
> > > but think
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > >> was
> > > > > > > > >> > imagining an alien under her skin! I laughed out of my
> > > chair:)
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Liked it though.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:02 PM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > > > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > Bliss!!!!
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qpQb11YWc
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOG2x6xhbhM
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > On Nov 6, 9:43 am, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > Irrevocably romantic, but I don't like it that way
> most
> > > of the
> > > > > > > > >> time:)
> > > > > > > > >> > > But,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > saying that, admit I can explore emotion without
> losing
> > > my grand
> > > > > > > > >> anchor
> > > > > > > > >> > > of
> > > > > > > > >> > > > logic!
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > Yes, lyrics are spot on.  Some consider it naivete
> and
> > > > > > > illogical.
> > > > > > > > >>  It has
> > > > > > > > >> > > > always kept me from giving up:)  Music! ah, my
> favorite
> > > > > > > emotional
> > > > > > > > >> > > vehicle.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > Words and music together? BLISS!
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM, ornamentalmind <
> > > > > > > > >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Yes, an optimist to the core:)" – CB
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Yes, I hesitated because of the current feeling of
> > > 'hope'.
> > > > > > > > >> However, I
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > know it is temporary.
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > A song came to mind for 'ya.' I remember when the
> > > musical
> > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > >> came
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > out. I liked this and the rest of 'em too.
> >
> > > > > > >
> http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/acockeyedoptimist.htm
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…weaknesses in space, as we don't have enough
> > > research on it
> > > > > > > > >> yet." –
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > CB
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > While I do understand what you mean here, I
> disagree.
> > > The
> > > > > > > > >> 'research'
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > to date all points one way.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Just think how different that humanity would
> > > be...Spacers."
> > > > > > > – CB
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Again, while I love SF too, …………..
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…Syonara Blue Planet:)" – CB
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > First, I didn't miss all of your 'if's used prior
> to
> > > this.
> > > > > > > > >> Secondly,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > even IF this were possible and humanity doesn't
> > > destroy itself
> > > > > > > > >> soon, I
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > would draw an analogy with the leak at Sverdlovsk
> in
> > > 1979.
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > "…my sweetest wish it to live long enough to see
> it
> > > all
> > > > > > > happen.
> > > > > > > > >> Ah,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > well:)" – CB
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Ahhh, a romantic too, eh?!  : - )
> >
> > >http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/southpacific/someenchantedevening.htm
> >
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Nov 6, 9:05 am, CrossBow <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > It does not matter if I like the answer - just
> that
> > > I get
> > > > > > > one:)
> > > > > > > > >> > >  Funny,
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > last
> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > week I would have agreed with you about the
> > > diminishing role
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > >> US
> >
> > ...
> >
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