My tactic is to sell my car to Kaleb, and only buy the new car from the
dealer. If I'm buying a used car, I get it from an individual.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>wrote:

> Thats a popular misconception with people, they think either negotiate the
> trade first, then negotiate the price on the new car, or vise versa.
>  Either way, you are just dragging things out making the process take
> longer because no matter what you do you will end up at the same place in
> the end.  And that pisses off the salesman as well, that is not their first
> rodeo, they have seen this before. If you want to get in and out quick,
> just tell them what you are looking to do and go from there.
>
>
> On 8/16/2012 3:52 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> Donald Snook <dsn...@mtsqh.com> writes:
>>
>>  you don't care what the price is AND you don't care what the trade in
>>> value is.  The only thing you should be worried about is the
>>> difference between the two.
>>>
>> At least in Indiana, there is some benefit to getting a high trade-in
>> value because you don't pay sales tax on the trade-in portion of the
>> purchase.  That's effectively an extra 7%.
>>
>> Ideally you are supposed to negotiate your trade-in then negotiate the
>> price of the car.  I've never found a dealer who would seriously talk
>> trade-in values without a specific car on the purchase side already
>> identified.
>>
>>  Don't get caught up in those numbers, because the dealer is better at
>>> playing that game than you are.
>>>
>> This is why I don't buy cars from dealers anymore.
>>
>> Allan
>>
>
>
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