----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Philp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
> bay56 wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 1:46 AM
> > Subject: Re: [newbie] Ears don't work
> >
> > > It's a problem with the APM drivers and some motherboards. You,
> > > unfortunately, seem to have one of the many motherboards affected, as
> > > do I at work. There's a fix for it. Here's the URL to the message in
> > > the archives detailing the fix:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg11666.html
> >
> > Thanks for that - although to read the message from Axalon - you'd swear
it
> > was a problem with the mother board:
> >
> > $50 cheap mobo indeed - mine was good value at $200, but a $200 mobo
should
> > be good enough for a stinking bug ridden driver - exception taken Ax.
>
> It is a BIOS problem. If you'd like confirmation of it, check the Linux
> Kernel mailing list archives. There was quite a discussion about this
> problem just a few weeks ago.
I'm not convinced a past discussion confirms all that much myself - now if
this machine did not shut down right with the other OS I'd say you had a
point - because that would put it firmly in the category of flawed apm/acpi
machines that most of us that care already know all about. There are a lot
of machines which display the tendency not to work right in this dept.
However if in this instance this machine can perform this function, I am
lead to the conclusion that an os issueing the commands CAN make it happen
on this set of kit - so why not just issue the right commands - evidently
something else is happening here - otherwise it would not shutdown correctly
in BOTH cases.
Now whether there's a case for a further reduced hardware list to be
introduced making certain models of mainboard and their bios sets "not
supported under linux" is another matter entirely.
> $200 motherboard or not, the BIOS vendor screwed up their
> implementation.
And what, in your opinion, have they done wrong?
> > So much for being able to set up reasonable cost linux system if he's
right!
> > (which I personally doubt, because it works fine under another OS!)
>
> A quick fix for the problem was already posted (remove the -p from the
> shutdown flags).
Done that - it causes new problems all of it's own. Which prevent it getting
that far in the shut down process.
> Want reasonable priced Linux systems?
> Try a nice surplus 386 ('course,
> you won't be able to run Mandrake on it). You won't even have APM
> problems with it!
What? you trying to sell me something here? ;-)
> Ranting is one thing, but you've gone a little far...
Sorry officer did not see your badge - where you get that from then? I like
the bit where it says judge! ;-P
> > Slag my system all you like Ax, just make sure you got right on your
side
> > first. ;-)
>
> And make sure you've really read the messages about HOW to fix the
> problem before feeling insulted about a problem which DOES exist on your
> system.
I don't remember addressing this to you specifically - why the poor
attitude? - no matter
I have, and it's a broken fix under 6.1
Do you have anything empirical under 6.1 to offer?
Regards,
Ian
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