Sharrea Day wrote:

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 03:53, John Richard Smith wrote:

et wrote:

On Friday 05 December 2003 11:49 am, John Richard Smith wrote:

I cann't even get into bios, that is the problem. By flash I guess you
mean reset the bios and make it redetect ?

John


I might add that I do have power supply , it seems like everything that needs it is getting power,though since I cannot get into bios I cannot tell what may be dead.

If I had harddrive failure you would still be able to get into bios
If I have monitor failure  , that could be a possibility, though it
does say "no signal" and the neon led lights up, which to my mind
indicates it wants to work.
If I had a graphic's card failure I ought to be able to get into
bios at least ?
If Mobo then I guess it has to be a real possility. Anything there
could block my access to bios for instance ??

John





I think I have found the problem.

My graphics card , gforce3 has a small fan on it and it's hardly
turning at all. I bet that is the problem, can one buy replacements?

John

yes. send us a picture of the fan you get for it. however, while I ain't
sure about your particular card, I do know some fans have a control
circuit that makes the fan run faster when there is more heat. I still
think you need to blow out the power supply fan.

At the moment I don't have an OS that can handle my camera.

I've bought a new fan (12v , they don't have the exact same voltage as
the Gforce3 card(2.1v)and plugged it into the main 12v supply, not
ideal, though it whirls up nicely.The fan goes by the name of Crystal
Orb p/n A1178 and fits the apperture and seating quite nicely . However
I'm still stuck as it won't boot even past the bios. Keyboard is dead,
though optical mouse lights up. I'm wondering whether Geforce3 has heat
detection, and I need to somehow kick the bios into starting again.

So I'd better investigate the power supply next .I will have it all out
and clean it up.


Yep, if you've got another PSu to swap in, try that (or borrow one). My next bet would be the motherboard.


About six months ago I had a similar problem and I could still hear the fan whir on the PSU. Didn't have a power supply with enough grunt to try on my system (and all my friends have old PCs with 200W PSUs). So I pulled the PSU and joined 2 wires to see if the fan was working properly as someone suggested. The fan worked no problem so I assumed the next thing to try was motherboard. Bought a new motherboard only to find that it WAS indeed the PSU!!! So, in short, even if the PSU fan is working, doesn't mean that enough power is supplied to your system.

THEN, only just two months ago, a friend's PC did the same thing. I tried my PSU in her PC and it worked no probs, so I bought another PSU for her - only to find that it was the bl**dy motherboard!

Good luck!

Sharrea



Such is the joys of a computer.

You were right It's the powersupply, the 3.3v line is my guess.
Substituted a known to work and she booted, having first gone to bios to shove the HD on autodetect because the bios seemed to protect the drive my deselecting it. In a way I'm glad it did, probanbly saved my drive from becoming dogmeat.


John


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