On Saturday 20 December 2003 22:49, Dick Gevers wrote:

<snip>
> I am sorry, but I don`t understand this advice. Some time ago I
> came from Windows, because my complaint was, amongst others, it`s
> lack of security. Now I am finally on a secure system (Linux) and
> we get an advice to turn off completely one of the main features
> of Mandrake`s security. Are you 100% sure that that is sound
> advice??
</snip>

Dick, my understanding is, that msec is a Mandrake "add-on" to the 
general linux security.  A "nanny".  The fact is, that linux in 
itself is orders of magnitudes safer then Windows.  The primary 
reason is, that on all  "real" distro's (not counting Lindows, 
Lycoris here) the install procedure demands at least one user 
account besides the root account. That means that even if someone 
could write a linux-virus (which I doubt) it wouldn't have the 
executable bit set. The (very stupid) user would have to do that by 
hand.  Next : when our (stupid) user runs this executable, the 
worst-case scenario is that she/he whacks her/his own "home" 
directory, unless "root" has granted her/him access to other users 
"home" directories.   In that case, those are hosed too, but no 
harm is done to the system proper. 

Here's where msec comes in : I always wonder why the Mandrake 
default is "standard".  First thing to do after a new 
install/upgrade is to set security level to "high".  But that is 
only a matter of keeping  the users privacy, not the system's.

So, by turning off msec you still have a system far more secure then 
Windows. 

And on a lighter note : Recently I purchased a HP box for my 
daughter.  Naturally it came with WindowsXP pre-installed. She is 
now 16 years old and has been using Linux all her life. She was 
utterly shocked to find that out she could destroy her brand new 
"XP" with just a few clicks.  Regrettably, she need this "XP" in 
order to comply with her college's  "system" , but she demanded me 
to install Linux as well, so she could dual-boot into a safe and 
reliable environment.  So I did, and now what ? 

Every so often she hauls me into her room just to ask me (who in her 
eyes is some sort of guru) : "I'm in Windows now, why doesn't this 
work, why do I get these strange messages, why do I have to reboot 
the box all the time, why can't I send an e-mail today, why is 
everything slowing down to almost standstill, why should I have to 
throw $$ to someone just to draw a line in my math report ?"

And : a fortnight ago she received some "X-mas-card" from a friend. 
Naturally she clicked the attached file, and "kaboom" !

Now, she is all back on her /dev/hdb ( which has Mandrake 9.1 on 
it).  And she has a /dev/hda (with WindowsXP) for a bargain sale.

Want to buy ?

Kaj Haulrich.
-- 
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