On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:03:37 +0800, "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think the terrorists deserver american style justice...

NOBODY deserves "american style justice". Do you support capital punishment? The
USA is the only "advanced democracy" that does, and it has ignored United
Nations pressure to change that. Do you support homophobic laws? The last time I
checked, twenty of fifty US states have laws prohibiting homosexual behaviour.
Do you support companies like Nike and Microsoft, who exploit people worldwide
for their own financial gain? Do you support laws that benefit large capitalist
corporations at the expense of the average citizen, like the DMCA? Civileme has
mentioned in a number of posts that he is afraid to go back to his own country
(the US) for fear of him being persecuted under DMCA-style laws (CMIIW,
Civileme).

Things aint that simple. There is always another viewpoint, and we must try to
view things the way 'they' would see it, in order to understand them and
determine their motives. If your family and community was impoverished and
subject to a brutal authoritarian regime, all thanks to US Foreign Policy,
wouldn't _you_ want revenge?

I am doing a major in Government and International Relations as part of my
university degree (along with Information Systems). The most important thing to
learn is that you cannot impose Western liberal views upon those who haven't had
a Western liberal upbringing. For example, if these guys are Arab, then you have
to think like an Arab in order to understand them. Thinking like an Australian
or an American doesn't help one bit.

Before I get labelled as being callous, let me add that I do _not_ condone such
behaviour, and my heart goes out to the victims' families. It is important,
however, to remain calm and level-headed in such a crisis. This is,
understandably, _very_ difficult to do if you know someone who is involved. We
should try to look objectively at the events, and not just get swept away by all
the media coverage.
 
> Why give then an anesthetic before killing them (by putting them to
> sleep)????
> 
> they didnt' give their victims any choice in the matter...
> 
> 
> They deserve alot more then peaceful sleep, they deserve public torture...
> to serve as a warning...
> 
> 
> It won't happen, but its what they deserver,, and because it won't happen,
> it will one day happen again...
> 
> 
> Geeze, I am such a bastard about this....
> 
> 
> 
> Frank
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lanman
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 12:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Greer
> Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: [LINUX_Newbies] USA TERROR ATTACK!!!!
> 
> 
> Matt; My comments regarding possible retribution were directed ONLY at those
> responsible. Didn't mean to give you the wrong impression. And I believe
> that
> - given the chance- President Bush will take extreme pleasure in bringing
> those responsible over to our side of the pond (if at all possible, assuming
> that they're not already here), to face justice "American" style. The
> American people will expect it. Kind of a "slap in the face" to those
> murderers. Knowing this, they may choose to "take themselves out" instead.
> But whether they're Palestinians or Martians, the Americans deserve justice.
> They already paid the bill. Ask any New Yorker!
> 
> Sleep time! Goodnight all.
> 
> Lanman
> 
> On Thursday 13 September 2001 12:17 am, Matt Greer wrote:
> > On Tuesday 11 September 2001 23:07, you wrote:
> > > By the way, I'm not comparing this to college football.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I was/am a bit frustrated at people's reactions to the
> > Palestineans <sp?>. What they're doing is dispicable, but that doesn't
> mean
> > we should want their deaths.
> >
> > > I think these terrorists should be feeling the same way right
> > > about now. I don't think they thought this attack through well enough to
> > > ponder the response that will surely follow.
> >
> > Either they didn't really think of the consequences or they don't care. A
> > war could be exactly what they wanted. Who knows.
> >
> > Watching the tower crumble to the ground sends chills down my spine
> > everytime I see it. I don't think hardly anyone would have thought a plane
> > crashing into the upper portion of  a skyscraper could cause it to
> implode.
> > A news channel tonight had an engineer on and even he was surprised.
> >
> > Matt

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