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[36] Joe Royle already on the market!
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Thanks to Dave for this - see Joe Royle for sale
(link:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=591367330)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=591367330
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[35] Former Hammer wants McClaren
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
George Parris:
"I don't see any reason why Steve McClaren couldn't be the next West Ham manager. He
hasn't managed a club as yet, but he seems to have all the right credentials and after
being involved in the England set-up is highly respected. If there was going to be a
stumbling block it would be his lack of experience, but going for experience doesn't
always guarantee success. e is a very good coach so there is no problem there and he
has got into the habit of winning things which is always useful."
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[34] Paul Walsh on siddy
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Former Manchester City striker Paul Walsh said:
"It's a bit of a shock. I was surprised, but you just got the feeling that towards
the end of the season, it was not a happy camp. There has been internal wrangling with
one or two players and maybe people in the boardroom have spotted things in the
dressing room that they are unhappy with. Maybe they have asked the players 'Have you
had enough? Do you want a new person in?' Once he has had a rest, it is a case of
whether he has got that enthusiasm and that zest to get back in the game again."
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[33] Utd odds for next season
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From PA
'Manchester United are no longer considered odds-on to win the Premiership title next
year, after this week's upheaval at Old Trafford. United are quoted at evens with
online bookmakers Bluesq.com, but in previous years they have been overwhelming
favourites.
Liverpool have superseded usual second-favourites Arsenal, and are quoted at 7/2 to
win their first title since 1990. The Gunners are 9/2. Fulham are 33/1, while Graeme
Souness' Premiership experience probably accounts for Blackburn's price of 100/1,
ahead of established top-flight clubs such as Newcastle, West Ham and Everton.
Derby are strongly tipped to go down with the longest title odds at 750/1, closely
followed by neighbours Leicester (500/1), who suffered a tortuous end to last season
after their FA Cup exit at the hands of Wycombe.'
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[32] Ooops baby, they've sacked someone again
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Oopps
Mr Potato Head on Saturday Evening:
"The two goals from their point of view were great but our defence
was poor. There will be changes of personnel next season".
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[31] No change there then
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
As the MEN do not have one story on their site about the Fergie situation. They do
mention Mr Potato Head's demise though.
Spineless as ever?!
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[30] Believe it when we see it
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From the BBC
'Manchester United are to continue their attempts to keep Sir Alex
Ferguson at the club once he steps down as manager at the end of next
season. After announcing before the weekend that he had no intention of staying at
Old Trafford beyond 2002, Ferguson's future has been the subject of media
speculation.'
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[29] Latest from Maine Road
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Just been announced on GMR that Royles sacking has come about because of the alleged
"drinks culture" and "lack of discipline". Apparently Royle was called in and asked
to sack three of his backroom boys - he refused and they sacked him (and the three
mentioned). The meeting took three minutes!
Red News odds on replacement: Postman Pat - Evens, Big Ted - 2/1, Buzz Lightyear 12/1,
A trophy winner 798079878/1
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[28] More on Eric
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From our French correspondent:
'I eventually went to Lens with a mate and saw the whole game (and a game between old
stars before). The game ended 7-2 for Lens against the Dream Team.
second half : Zidane played 30 mins and was impressive, despite playing with Juve in
the afternoon. Djibril Cissé, a United target, also came on. Goals from : Eloi ( 2 ),
Moreira and Kevin Boli ( son of Roger ) for Lens. Eric came back at the end of the
game for a lap of honour with Roger Boli and was one of the most applauded players.
Fireworks and poom poom girls to end.
Moment of the game : Eric's delightful 25 yards chip.
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[27] Shareholders United comment in full
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Shareholders United spokesman Oliver Houston said:
"Our desire for Ferguson to stay is much more to do with cold business
reality than it is any notions of sentiment. There will now be serious concern in the
financial markets. If it's one thing they hate, it's uncertainty. The possibility
that the club could start haemorrhaging players and back-room staff is deeply worrying
to investors.
If they were wary of the Busby Syndrome before, the effect of Ferguson
leaving in acrimonious circumstances will surely cast an even longer shadow over any
successor. The Board do seem to have shot themselves in the foot over this.
One anonymous United director was quoted in the press as saying of Sir Alex 'He may be
a good manager but he doesn't exactly sell the shirts, does he?' This could not be
further from the truth. The commercial success of Manchester United - be it TV
revenue, prize money, gate receipts or merchandising - has come as a direct result of
the hard work Ferguson has put in over the last 15 years in producing a winning
football team. In PLC-speak, that is the 'core business', that is the 'product'.
The anonymous detractors would do well not to throw stones in glass houses.
Merchandising at Manchester United has run into difficulties recently. Due to high
prices and a growing distaste for the over-commercialisation of our club, sales in the
UK are down and in the Far East there are many problems with counterfeiting.
This dispute is not about the transfer kitty. It's about politics and personalities.
The Board's stance is not about fears that Ferguson would overshadow a successor, but
rather fears that he would overshadow them."
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[26] Mr Potato Head has had his chips
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
This in from RN reader, Sean:
"Joe Royle has been sacked due to "Fundamental differences of views"
Funny, I thought they all know they were Sh*t"
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[25] Only come to see United
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From RN reader, Dave:
"Further to the self-righteous crap from the Soton editor.I heard Lawrie McMenemy on
Talksport this morning on about the last match at the Dell. When asked by Alan Brazil
if he would be there on Saturday he replied. 'Put it this way I haven't been invited'
No Reds will need reminding what he won for them - "offside and you know he was" - he
also said that their fans would have no excuses about getting tickets for matches at
the new ground, a copy of Pride Park, because it holds 32,000!!"
Bet they'll only fill it when we come to town.
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[24] Stam on his injury
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
"The doc said it wasn't a complete or major tear, but a small one that will take at
least three weeks to heal. This means my football for this season is over. I will
almost certainly miss Holland's World Cup qualifier against Estonia at the beginning
of next month."
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[23] And they don't want to keep him
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Fergie's record
Premiership 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001
FA Cup 1990, 1994 (double), 1996 (double), 1999 (treble)
League Cup 1992
Cup Winners' Cup 1991
European Cup 1999
Inter-Continental Cup 1999
European Super Cup 1991
Total major trophies: 16
All we need now is for them to say Potato Head is the man for United!
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[22] Bizarre story of the day
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From Ananova
'Burglars in Manchester are causing thousands of pounds of damage breaking into shops
to steal hair dye, iced buns and a cockatoo. Locals say there has been a surge in
bizarre burglaries in the Gorton area of the city over the last month. In one case,
intruders smashed £1,000 worth of security equipment at a biscuit factory to steal
£50-worth of wafers. In another, burglars stole £8,000 worth of bikes and the shop's
pet cockatoo.
Owner of the bike shop David Garbett told the Manchester Evening News: "I'm hoping the
cockatoo will bring their downfall. It does screech a lot and we just hope someone
will hear it."
David Evans, of Gorton-based Two Cities Insurance Services, said: "We have had more
theft claims in the last month than in the past five years."
He said that, in one case, a motorbike shop was burgled but thieves left the thousands
of pounds worth of vehicles and instead made off with just £20 cash. He said: "There
is an absolute and utter theft explosion here but there is no logic to the kinds of
shops targeted,"he said.
Sergeant Damian O'Reilly, of Gorton police, said: "These shops are not attractive
targets to burglars and they do not warrant the amount of effort that is obviously
being put in."
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[21] More from Fergie
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
"Steve's got other offers. I can't make his mind up for him, he's his own man and he
should be his own man in this respect. He's got offers that he's going to consider, I
am sure. He is an outstanding man, a real man. But he hasn't spoken to anyone yet.
I'm not a bit surprised that other people are interested in Steve, not a bit. He's an
outstanding man, believe me. He can make a decision; he's honest, straight as a die;
there is no question about black and white; he doesn't carry favours; he's got great
respect from players; he is a terrific coach; he has good observational qualities
which is important and he spots things. He'll do well."
When it was suggested that McClaren was the man to follow Ferguson, he said: "That's
got nothing to do with me. I'm going to look forward to next season. The players would
like to go out and become the first team to win four successive championships and I'm
going to help them try and do that. The important thing is that I regroup this lot,
because they are good enough, don't you worry about that."
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[20] And what is O'Dreary on about?!
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
As he blames us for them not qualifying for the Champions League as our draw at
Helland Road was the cause!
"Those two points have cost us. One man's decision has made a big difference to us."
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[19] Houllier really starting to grate
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
On and on he goes - have they won the league next year already?
"I told them to do what United do. Sometimes they look out of sorts for one-half or 60
minutes but then snatch their opportunity. That's the hallmark of champions for the
future in finishing stronger. Mentally, we are getting into the great attitude you
need when you are playing matches with so much at stake. Don't forget we had so much
on our shoulders. Look at Charlton's home record and you will agree that it was a
massive performance by us."
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[18] Stick with www.rednews.co.uk
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
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[17] city statement in full
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Proving that those votes of confidence are as dodgy as a knock on the door from a
bloke calling himself Mr.G.Reaper
A club statement read: "Manchester City Football Club announces that its manager Joe
Royle will be leaving the club with immediate effect. "The club would like to thank
Joe for all his efforts. In particular successive promotions from the Second Division
to the Premier League. An announcement regarding further changes will follow shortly."
City chairman David Bernstein said: "Since my appointment as Manchester City chairman
I have emphasised the need for stability and the avoidance of necessary change. This
has therefore been a particularly difficult decision. My relationship with Joe has
been outstanding and I have developed a real affection for him and his family."
Er, you're still fired.
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[16] Shock at Royle sacking - surely not!
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Steve McMahon told Ananova.com: "I think he has done a fantastic job and I cannot
believe it. You've got a guy there who took them up twice in succession and failed to
keep them in the Premiership against all the odds. But these things happen in football
and you have to think that maybe they're trying to go down a different path. Nothing
surprises you in football, though, let me tell you that!"
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[16] Shock at Royle sacking - surely not!
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Steve McMahon told Ananova.com: "I think he has done a fantastic job and I cannot
believe it. You've got a guy there who took them up twice in succession and failed to
keep them in the Premiership against all the odds. But these things happen in football
and you have to think that maybe they're trying to go down a different path. Nothing
surprises you in football, though, let me tell you that!"
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[15] And Shareholders United said
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Oliver Houston, spokesman for Shareholders United, said: "Our desire for Ferguson to
stay is much more to do with cold business reality than any notions of sentiment.
There will now be serious concerns in the financial markets. If it is one thing it
hates, it is uncertainty. The possibility that the club could start haemorrhaging
players and backroom staff is deeply worrying to investors.
If they were wary of the 'Busby Syndrome' before, the effect of Ferguson leaving in
acrimonious circumstances surely casts an even longer shadow over any successor. The
board do seem to have shot themselves in the foot over this. The dispute is not about
the transfer kitty, it's about politics and personalities. The board's stance is not
about fears that Ferguson would overshadow his successor, rather fears he would
overshadow them (the board)."
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[14] More PLC spin?
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From PA
'Manchester United will resist any attempts to lure Steve McClaren away from Old
Trafford. Manager Sir Alex Ferguson, who is leaving the club for good next season,
said his assistant "has had offers" to move elsewhere. But the club's powerbrokers
have been delighted with McClaren's contribution since his arrival from Derby and are
keen for him to stay.'
So why give permission for him to speak to clubs then?
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[13] The real reason
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
PA said:
'The streets of Liverpool became a sea of red as hundreds of thousands of fans turned
out to watch Liverpool FC's treble winning victory parade on Sunday'.
Red News said:
'Someone dropped a tenner on the floor of Merseyside on Sunday morning, word quickly
spread'
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[12] Quote of the weekend
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Master Ken Bates:
"I am discounting Sir Alex Ferguson as manager of the year. If you had the talent he
has at his disposal, you would win the Premiership too".
So is that why Chelsea won f*ck all?
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[11] Sunday rumours in full
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From the tabloids.
Becks & Dwight have had a bust-up over their 'feuding partners' Posh & Jordan.
Meanwhile Jordan had another 'amazing 3 in a bed sex session' (does she ever sleep in
a bed we wonder?) and tasteless NOW story is that 'James Bulger killer Jon Venables
has developed an obssession with David Beckham'.
city fans kicked it off after the Chelsea game even though they unfurled a banner
before the game suggesting they were 'The Best fans in the land...and the world'.
And the Fergie story took centre-stage, if it wasn't bad enough that Fergie fears a
plot to oust him and replace him with O'Dreary, there is also the spin about
Ferguson's European 'failure'. Er, didn't this type of innuendo come out from the
suits once before. Oh, yeah, that's right, in 1998. What happened next?
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[10] Read this Spurs match report
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Check out the Shop section of this site for details of how to buy match reports by
Paul & Linda from the 1999/2000 season.
Full circle
Tottenham Hotspur 3 Manchester United 1
Premier League Saturday 19 May 2001
It was like watching the last decade of your football supporting life pass very slowly
before your eyes. A magnificent decade of unprecedented success instigated by one man
who took hold of our hands and lead us to a Catalonian heaven and back. And now what
does the future hold? Red News had broken the story on the Monday night/Tuesday
morning that the Wizard had said he would walk away from the club at the end of next
season because, in his own words:
United have failed to come up to my expectations. What an indictment - that the club
who have become the richest in the world have failed to come up to the expectations of
the man who has lined their pockets with gold and our trophy cabinet with silver.
When we all met up before this game there were many rumours. Everyone was talking
about the same thing - Alex Ferguson and his rift with the hierarchy at Manchester
United. Even on the train going south even those who were on their way to the Test
Match were talking about it. And the resounding consensus was one of utter disbelief
that United hadn t seen fit to acknowledge the man who has turned the club around,
from being an underachiever into champions, with at least a seat on the board.
Apparently there had been opposition to the appointment. It doesn t take a genius to
work out where that opposition came from now does it?
Without Fergie s unquenchable thirst for success, and without his drive and
leadership, Manchester United would not be in this position of strength. Despite
recent defeats, we have still been untouchable in the Premiership and have enjoyed a
consistency in the European Cup which is the envy of 99.9 percent of football. And if
you want business speak: have become a club brand that is the strongest in the world.
What the PLC don t seem to understand is that you have to be successful on the
football pitch to be able to sell shirts, therefore you have to back the manager. When
you have a manager who has proved himself the most successful of all time in this
country then you have to keep him at all costs. His experience is invaluable
- absolutely priceless. And from our point of view he has been the one person who has
taken notice of the supporters. A true and honest football man and it seems perhaps a
dying breed, as marketing and merchandising appear to be taking control. In actuality
they are only able to do their jobs (in fact they only HAVE jobs) because of Alex
Ferguson and his team. And now he has said he will, sever all ties with the club -
walk away from Manchester United forever. So as we met up in the pubs before the game
it was no wonder that speculation was rife.
The season, for me, had gone full circle. It had been 7am on Vancouver Island as I sat
in Steve Fisher s front room as the season kicked off at an Old Trafford bathed in
sunshine. And there I was in a north London pub with Fish, his daft mate Pete and the
doctor before the final game. Life as a Manchester United supporter has never been
dull. No-one knows what is around the corner, but the one thing that remains constant
is the 'family'. I remember years ago people asking me why I went to football on my
own. But even though I used to arrive at the ground on my own I was then absorbed into
the swaying mass of the Stretford End amongst other members of my adopted family. Now
there are friends everywhere and before, during and after this game the family spirit
loomed large as we closed ranks.
It should have been a celebration. And to some extent it was, but it was also one of
the most arduous and overwhelming experiences ever. We
permutated what we knew and tried to make sense of it. We heard rumour upon rumour -
theory upon theory. Fergie wasn t going to be at the game. He had already left the
club. Or, Fergie was going to be at the game, but hadn t travelled with the team, but
it was to be his last anyway. It felt like a disaster waiting to happen, but as the
afternoon progressed I was so glad I was there to show my support. If the man himself
had not been there word would reach him and let him know what happened.
Down at the ground with 15 minutes to go all seemed relatively normal until we got
inside. We found that the cavernous wasteland behind the stand was strangely empty.
Some had stayed far too long in the pubs, but most were already up top standing ready
for whatever was about to unfurl. Fish and I stood, along with Fiona, in the corner of
the ground with only a narrow gangway separating us from the home fans. The teams
appeared, but no Fergie (we feared the worse). To our surprise ours was a strong
line-up despite not having Barthez, Gary Nev, Wes, Stam, Keane or Becks available. As
the game kicked-off so did we. Every single one of us loves Alex Ferguson we sang.
It spread throughout the United section as though it was out of control, and it went
on and on - and on. For 30 solid minutes we sang, Every single one of us loves Alex
Ferguson. A demonstration of commitment and a show of gratitude to the man who has
given us so much. It bewildered the locals who were stunned int!
o silence. The game was secondary. I couldn t even tell you whether the lads played
well or not.
The singing continued without interruption when they scored their first - broke
briefly as we celebrated Scholes scoring ours, and ended on the half hour with a
rasping and aggressive repetition of, U-NI-TED, U-NI-TED. I hadn t experienced
anything like it since the right-side and the felt-side of the Stretford celebrated at
the start of the '68 - 69 season with: We are the champions - champions of Europe.
The 45 minutes passed me by in a blur of a decade of glorious memories.
There was the odd dissenter amongst the home support of course. An extremely sad and
respectable looking middle-aged man to our left took exception and stood with the
middle finger of one hand raised until he was encouraged to shove it by a helpful
steward. Occasionally it reappeared but all he got from us were smiling stares which
struck home with devastating intensity. He hadn t got a clue what to do about the
embarrasing situation. He had trapped himself as we sang and those around him who
weren t baffled understood our sentiments. The infectious singing even entranced some
of their younger element who were seen to sway to the rhythm whilst mouthing the words
- much
to the distress of their parents. The massed ranks of United swayed too, and as the
singing reached peaks of crescendo the intensity increased and the volume pumped up
once more. The memory will stay with me forever. The sight of so many familiar faces
in the extended United family singing together with such passion was a magnificent
sight and sound.
By half-time our hands were red and swollen and our throats were dry and hoarse, and
below stairs we meet up with others. Each of us passed on our personal sympathies to
Lipstick over his devastating loss - another good Red gone, but not forgotten. Some
may be surprised that he was there at all, but we all know it was right and as his
father would have wished.
By the start of the second half the home crowd had taken up the challenge and for much
of the time they continued where we had left off. It helped their cause that they
scored two more goals and we didnt, but we eventually got going again even if the
first 45 minutes had taken their toll. Several choruses of, If you want to get to
heaven when you die were all that were required. If you want to get to heaven when
you die, you must keep the Red flag flying high. You must wear a red bonnet with f**k
the Scousers on it........ if you want to get to heaven when you die. Along with,
And United said - is that a treble in your cabinet - are you 'avin a larf, are you
'avin' a larf sorted us out.
The locals (and especially the single digit) naturally revelled in their victory as it
probably made their season. A victory against the champions, even if division within
the club was bound to affect the football, would be savoured. The game ended as it had
begun with several more minutes of, Every single one of us loves Alex Ferguson . It
was only at the final whistle that we spotted the Wizard on the touchline, and as he
quickly disappeared down the tunnel we hoped it wouldn t be for his final time in
charge of the United team. had he come over to us we d have known, but thankfully he
didn t. Most, but not all, of the players did come over to us with Mikky Silvestre
staying longest. And as we left the ground chanting, CHAMPIONS - CHAMPIONS we said
our farewells to the 2000-01 season.
Several of us walked back to the tube together. At that time none of us were any the
wiser whether the status quo would stay or go. Rumours still abounded and uncertainty
filled our conversations. Gradually we dispersed, with Fish, Pete and I talking the
tube which was to be yet another tedious experience. My train down had been delayed
and eventually taken out of commission, causing a long wait and a change of engine.
Our tube journey to the game had been circuitous due to line works and the return was
even more so. What a marvellous public transport system - we were glad to be leaving.
I said my goodbyes to my two companions when we reached Marylebone. Their destination
was Milan via Paddington before returning to the clement summer weather of Vancouver
Island.
It wasn t until I was half way home that my phone rang with a message from the doctor
that Fergie had told the press after the game that it was his intention to stay on at
United for one last season in charge. He obviously wasn t going to be forced out by
the money men upstairs. We should have known that he would stay with us so that we
could enjoy one last season together. Maybe we had helped to influence his decision -
who knows?
No matter what happens in the future you can be sure that the United family spirit
will always remain. As football has become a business it has changed immeasurably for
better and for worse. The modern day supporter is vastly different from when I first
went to games and to some extent that is inevitable. Things change but sometimes they
change without due consideration of the past. But the way football differs, as a
business to any other business, is that it depends on football - the game of football.
It also depends on true football people and on the interaction and influence between
the players and the fans. It depends on you and me - and it depends on people like
Alex Ferguson.
Que sera, sera , as the song goes, whatever will be will be - the future s not ours
to see. Que sera sera. But for once I don t agree. It s time for the United family
to look after one of it s own. Each and every one of us who have basked in the success
of the last decade must show our support for the man who has made it possible. Let
your feelings be known - write to Peter Kenyon. It's pay-back time.
Paul
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[9] New United Song
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
To the tune of 'A Knock Kneed Chicken'
It's a 3rd rate treble,
Of 3rd rate cups,
For a 3rd rate team,
>From a 3rd rate club,
Come on scousers tell me,
When did you win the big 3?
by Mary
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[8] Eric in action
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
A small group of us went over to Lens on Sunday to see Eric play in Roger Boli's
testimonial. He's still got it, in every sense. He got a huge reception when
announced to the crowd as the first member of the international team lining up against
Lens. He played brilliantly, scoring the first goal for "The Dream Team" as they were
called on the scoreboard. Sadly he got injured and had to be substituted after about
20 minutes. This prompted a couple of choruses of "Ooh Aah Eric Cantona" from the
French crowd - it was weird hearing 'our' song done properly in a French accent.
Others who played in Eric's team included Jean-Pierre Papin, Sonny Anderson,
Christophe Dugarry, Bernard Lama and a strong contingent of current Premiership
players - Vieira, Desailly, Dacourt and Pires, who scored the second goal to put them
2-0 up. By half time the normal testimonial scoreline had been restored, 3-2 to Lens
with a hat-trick by Roger Boli. During the half-time break we had the rather strange
experience of bumping into a French fan wearing a Leicester City goalkeeper's shirt.
He had Arphexad on the back, so I suppose that explained it - you wouldn't want to
swap it for a Scouse shirt would you.
Unfortunately, due to the match kicking off well over an hour late, we had to leave
just after half time in order to get our train home (maybe the Red News French
correspondent has got the story of the 2nd half). We stayed long enough to see
Zinedine Zidane join the Dream Team as well as Pascal Olmeta - the mad goalie that
Eric brought to a couple of testimonials at OT. Shame we couldn't stay longer and we
left to probable mutterings in French about part time daytrippers. We made our
Shuttle with moments to spare, having totally thrown the British customs official that
checks you on the French side before boarding. He asked where we'd been and why,
"Lens, to see Eric Cantona play" to which he replied in a broad Manc accent "He's my
hero, I support United" and waved us through. We could have smuggled anything and my
choice would have been Zidane - for United of course.
A fantastic day out and here's hoping Eric recovers from what looked like a thigh
strain in time for the Beach Football tournaments.
Portia Vale
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[7] Today is the day
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
1894 - The Manchester Ship Canal was opened.
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[6] The SUN says
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
The SUN reports that Steve McClaren will accept the offer of the West Ham job this
week, Barca may wait a year to offer him their job and the future of Becks and Keano
is now in doubt if Fergie leaves in a years time.
Apart from that it's a great day?!
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[5] Tabloid talk
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
So you have to laugh at some of the PLC spin taking place. The People yesterday
carried a story why 'FERGIE HAD TO GO', saying that the PLC didn't offer him a role
because 'He wanted Martin Edwards' (Chairman of the club) job', 'a say in star buys',
'voice in club's finances'.
The inference of the story was how out of order he was to be asking for any of these -
suggesting that stories about how worried the suits are of a personality like Fergie
being bigger than them off the pitch in the boardroom - yet the irony is that I doubt
there are many Reds who would not liked to have seen Fergie oust Our Martin and take
on his role and duties.
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[4] Conflicting tabloid reports on Fergie
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
This from Tribal soccer and the basis of a Daily Mirror back page headline 'Why Fergie
fell out with United'.
"It's been claimed that the current row between Manchester United boss Sir Alex
Ferguson and the club's board was sparked by an illegal approach for Bayern Munich
left back, Bixente Lizarazu. A source told the Daily Record the United manager
allegedly telephoned Lizarazu last week to discuss a possible transfer. Fergie was
reprimanded by the board after he contacted the Bayern Munich full-back.
Bayern president Franz Beckenbauer was furious and threatened to take
United to FIFA before United board members smoothed things over.
The source said, "Everything that happened at Manchester this week
was about Lizarazu. The player was offered by an agent to Alex
Ferguson. He was told the player was available. Alex called the
player but Bayern found out and they went crazy."
Don't believe the hype in our opinion. It seems that some of the suits are doing their
own leaking and putting their own spin on the story, trying to make Che Govanor look
like the one in the wrong. This wasn't about transfers - but about his and Steve
McLaren's role in the coming year and beyond.
Don't forget that.
The SUN reports on 'Fergie Crisis Talks' early next week in which they suggest he
could still walk out on United this summer as 'some board members are understood to be
furious with Fergie for' his announcement on Friday; although they suggest they will
try to seek a compromise over a future role. We doubt that now - but this meeting with
Our Martin, cuddly Peter and our main man is now crucial. PLC - don't cock this one up
- we will never forgive you if things go from bad to worse next week.
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[3] Massive departure
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by bar-knee:
Joe Royle has gone - sacked - after several assurances in recent weeks that there
would be no way this would happen as Potato Head had been the reason they'd got back
to the Premiership in the first place. Presume they have a replacement in mind -
presumably another member of the Toy Story cast.
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[2] Bye Bye Joe
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by steaming:
We have had confirmation that Joe has taken the walk of shame [isn't that going INTO
Maine Road?].
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[1] Royle sacked?
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2001 by steaming:
Rumours doing the rounds that the Massives have reverted to type and sacked Joe Royle
- manager number #24576 since the war....
More later.
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[17] Edwards wants O'Dreary
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
According to the NOTW, who go on to say that:
A senior Reds source told us the legendary United boss:
FEARS chairman Martin Edwards wants O'Leary in charge.
SUSPECTS the United board are willing to sell David Beckham.
WORRIES he won't get the £40million he wants to make United kings of Europe again.
CAN'T BELIEVE he has only been offered a derisory £100,000 to represent United as a
club ambassador.
BLAMES the United board for involving bitter rival Edwards in the negotiations over
his United future.
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[16] Giggsy - we thought he was joking
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
"Naturally, the players at the club thought he was joking while everyone else prepared
to celebrate up and down the country".
"Our rivals would never lose sleep over the manager's exit. If there was some light at
the end of the tunnel for them, his decision to walk away from Old Trafford was it".
"Like so many of the other players at the club, I honestly felt he would change his
mind".
"I just felt it would be a matter of time before he said he had reconsidered his
position and would stay".
"But I believe you have to respect the decision he has come to. As time went on it
became abundantly clear that the manager had decided enough was enough".
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[15] Giggsy - difficult to see him elsewhere
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
>From an interview in the Sunday Mirror:
"I COULD never see Sir Alex Ferguson as the manager of another club - I just don't
think that would ever happen".
"If he wants more glory there is still a job to be done here at Manchester United".
"It's like the players, in a way. The reason we remain at the club is the burning
desire to maintain the success at the club - and that has evolved from the manager".
"He is always quick to tell us that without the desire and passion we should consider
moving on and that has never been lost on us".
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[14] Fergie fancies Bayern to win
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
"I fancied Bayern to win the semi-final because they have picked up more than Real
Madrid in the last year.
"I was reading comments from the Real players in the build-up to the semi and they
were saying they were going to do this and that to Bayern.
"That was a big mistake. Bayern's players were not saying a word. They knew they were
in control of their own destiny and they played a committed game in Munich. I felt
they could have won by six.
"But it'll be very hard against Valencia. The Spaniards don't lose many goals and
generally Bayern don't score many, so it'll be a tight game.
"Bayern lost to us in the final two years ago and they will take that history into
this year's final. But don't forget Valencia lost to Real Madrid in last year's final,
so they know what it is like too.
"It's a difficult one to call, but Bayern will be so hard to beat.
"Owen Hargreaves is their only young player - there are no boys in their team. They
are all men and you are talking about great experience with the likes of Stefan
Effenberg (left).
"To see them win in Madrid didn't surprise me at all."
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[13] Fergie on his players
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
"I think the players would like to see me go out having become the only man to win
four successive titles and I'm going to help them.
"I don't know whether the situation has affected the players. I'm not responsible for
the speculation.
"Christ, I'm not the only manager who has suffered in that way. I half expected it for
a while actually. I wasn't really holding out too much hope, it wasn't really a shock.
"It's my intention to stay in charge next year, I'm looking forward to it.
"I have a great bunch of players who have shown over the years that they have a
certain character and team spirit that is special. And it's very difficult to get that
and retain it for so long.
"I want to get out with my head held high knowing that I have enjoyed the 16 years
I've spent at this club. That is something worth remembering, not all the various
background stuff that happens, not just at our club but at various clubs.
"I'm not going to let that destroy a wonderful time I've had.
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[12] Players trying to change Fergie's mind
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
Giggsy says:
"It's not a secret that some players have taken the manager's decision to quit the
club quite hard. A number have tried to talk him round.
"I know some players still believe, perhaps hope, he will change his mind."
Keano and Gary Nev have also had words according to the Sunday Mirror
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[11] Everyone wants Steve
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
Apart from the PLC of course:
The Sunday Mirror reckon he's meeting with West Ham bosses tomorrow, but that
Southampton also want him.
What do they know? According to our board, he's as useless as Fergie
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[10] Steve for Ingerlund?
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
According to the Sunday Mirror, Eriksson is to offer Steve a job at over double his
current Utd salary.
And the board get upset when they get accused of penny pinching!
Richest club in the world - my arse
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[9] Fergie catches up with Dwight
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
>From the People:
DWIGHT YORKE was axed by Manchester United yesterday after Old Trafford boss Sir Alex
Ferguson found out about a wild night out.
The striker may have played his last game for the club after Fergie learned he had
painted the town red on a night out with a soccer pal in Scotland. Yorke was joined on
his night on the tiles by Hibs forward and international team-mate Russell Latapy, who
was sacked by the Scottish Premier outfit.
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[8] Kenyon has already lined up O'Neill
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
Again from the Observer:
'The Observer can reveal that United chief executive Peter Kenyon last month held
secret talks with Celtic coach Martin O'Neill's representatives about O'Neill
succeeding Ferguson in 2002 - or even sooner'.
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[7] The board: Fergie's useless
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
Again from the Observer
'Senior figures cite other reasons for plotting a 'clean break' with Ferguson: his
'difficult' temperament; United's failure to dominate Europe in recent years, despite
seven domestic titles in nine years; his use of the media to portray the board as
penny-pinchers; and his refusal to condemn captain Roy Keane's horrendous tackle last
month on Manchester City's Alf Inge Haaland'.
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[6] The board plot thickens
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
>From Denis Campbell and Paul Wilson in the Observer:
This how the board repay the man they should be on their knees to
Offering Ferguson only the lowly, low-profile job of head of youth development.
Proposing a £100,000 salary - a cut of £1.6m.
Rejecting his wish to become a global ambassador for the club.
Refusing to entertain his demand for a seat on the board of United's ruling PLC.
Failing to give the 'negotiations' with him the same high priority as Ferguson did,
despite him having said last December that his role would be sorted out 'within
weeks'.
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[5] Massive celebrations
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
As City celebrate returning to their natural home
City chief operating officer Chris Bird for once not using the massive word says:
"It's always disappointing when anybody comes on to the pitch and acts in a disorderly
manner," he said.
"But tensions were high and spirits were high as well because it was the last day of
the season.
"Traditionally here fans have come on to the pitch to celebrate, but unfortunately
there were a few skirmishes which have been reported.
"The majority of the people who came on to the pitch were there to chant for the team.
"It was one or two who acted disorderly and that's what I want to hear from the police
to find out how many people came on and acted in that way and if there were arrests
made.
"Once I leave here I'm going to meet with the police and get their report.
"I will also be talking to the referee to see what he will be including in his report."
And just to note that taxi passenger of the decade Wise had things thrown at him, not
the first time objects have been thrown at players at Moss Dive this season. Will
anything happen?
No, I don't think so either
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[4] Fergie talks up O'Neill
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
"Martin's a no-nonsense manager - just what you need at a big club. You don't mess
this man around.
"Any recognition and praise that Martin gets is deserved. For him to go to Celtic and
change it all around in one season is remarkable.
"I have to say I thought he would do that because he is a good organiser and a great
believer in team spirit.
"He is a no-nonsense manager who is strong and has a personality and I think those
qualities are important at a big club like Celtic."
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[3] Nedved says - 'come and get me'
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
"I'd love to join Manchester United. After five or six years in Italy, it's time for
me to go - and I want that opportunity before it's too late.
"I want the chance to fulfil my dreams of playing in the Champions League Final and I
want to do that with a team that is capable of getting there - for me that team is
United."
"I only have one ambition left in my football career and that is to join Manchester
United. I want to play at the top - and for me the top is United" he said.
"Of course I have known about their interest for some time. There has been talk, talk
and more talk, but so far nothing has happened except Lazio making it clear that they
are no longer interested in selling me.
"It's a problem, because I'm under contract for another year and - while I want to go
- it's not possible unless Lazio agree."
One snag; we're so skint, despite most of the current first team costing nish that we
can hardly afford Martin Edwards 'Entertainment' expenses
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[2] Fergie knows what's important
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
'My relationship with the players and the supporters is of paramount importance. We've
come through so much together in turning Manchester United into the biggest club in
Europe, if not the world.
'This cannot be the end. I'll be setting out in my last season to win every possible
trophy.
'My ambition to bring success to this club has not wilted since the day I first walked
through the doors at Old Trafford.
'So much has changed both on and off the field but my desire to win has not.'
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[1] Fergie nearly walked out yesterday
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Posted Sunday, May 20, 2001 by tb:
According to Bob Cass in the Mail:
He claims:
'Sir Alex, the most successful manager English football has ever known, was prepared
to quit immediately after yesterday's finale to United's Premiership-winning season at
Tottenham.'
'Hasty assurances from chief executive Peter Kenyon late on Friday night that United
were prepared to finance more signings after the £18.5 million purchase of Ruud van
Nistelrooy hauled Ferguson back from the brink'.
This would have led to both Becks and Keane following him according to the report.
He goes on:
But he was so infuriated by United's response to his desire for a continuing role at
Old Trafford - an attitude he believed was insulting - that he was prepared to make
White Hart Lane yesterday his swansong'.
Offer was an insult:
'He believes that the eventual offer made to him after eight months of negotiation was
insulting and derisory. United proposed to give him a minimal period of work in a role
that amounted to little more than a glorified club promoter'.
Kowing the board, this meant he was offered Fred the Red's job
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[32] More Fergie on Steve
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by tb:
''I'm not a bit surprised that other people are interested in Steve, not a bit. He's
an outstanding man, believe me. He can make a decision; he's honest, straight as a
die; there is no question about black and white; he doesn't carry favours; he's got
great respect from players; he is a terrific coach; he has good observational
qualities which is important and he spots things. He'll do well.''
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[31] Fergie post match comments in full
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by tb:
''I felt it was important I made the point that I will working somewhere next year. I
will be in charge for my last year at United and I'm looking forward to that. I've got
a great bunch of players who've got a certain character and team spirit that is
special.'' Ferguson expressed his disappointment at the way his glorious 16-year reign
at Old Trafford will be coming to an end. But he also said the outcome surprised him.
''These things happen in football - I'm not the only manager who's suffered that.''
''I'd half expected it for a while really and I wasn't really building up too much
hope, so honestly it is not too much of a shock. It's a disappointment but you get
over these things because I want to go out with my head held high knowing I've enjoyed
the 16 years I'll have completed at the club. No way am I going to let the background
things that happen at football clubs destroy the wonderful time I've had. It is
important for me that I complete my final year and get on with it.''
Ferguson said he had not yet had time to consider what he will do when he leaves
United, but did not rule out the possibility of taking a managerial post elsewhere,
either in England or abroad. He said: ''I've not ruled out taking a manager's job. I'm
not sure what I'm going to do now but I've got a year to think about it. I'm just not
sure what I'll do because I haven't given it a bit of thought. At this moment in time
I don't know what I'll be doing - I might go into painting or something like that.''
''There are a lot of things I can do, I'm such a talented guy. But I've closed the
door on United and I'm finishing next year. My son has been speaking to Peter Kenyon
for some months but I'd had no particular ideas about what might have happened if I'd
stayed at Old Trafford. That's it closed, there is no mileage for me in this. I made a
statement simply because I want to let people know that I'm going to be working next
year and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.''
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[30] Hanson confirms his bin dipperness
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by tb:
Over the years there has been some debate as to whether Alan Hansen is a closet Red.
Anyone who watched Liverpool, sorry Football Focus will have seen him leaping around
the studio as the plastic treble was won.
YSB
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[29] Fergie on Steve
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by tb:
"Steve's got other offers. I can't make his mind up for him, he's his own man and he
should be his own man in this respect.
"He's got offers that he's going to consider, I am sure. He is an outstanding man, a
real man. But he hasn't spoken to anyone yet.
"I'm not a bit surprised that other people are interested in Steve, not a bit. He's an
outstanding man, believe me. He can make a decision; he's honest, straight as a die;
there is no question about black and white; he doesn't carry favours; he's got great
respect from players; he is a terrific coach; he has good observational qualities
which is important and he spots things. He'll do well."
And on succeeding him:
"That's got nothing to do with me.
"I'm going to look forward to next season. The players would like to go out and become
the first team to win four successive championships and I'm going to help them try and
do that.
"The important thing is that I regroup this lot, because they are good enough, don't
you worry about that."
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[28] Keano goes back to his roots
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by tb:
in Leicester. From thebluearmy.co.uk
Superstar Roy Keane took time out at the weekend to watch Leicester City’s Under- 10
Academy team in action.
The Manchester United and Republic of Ireland skipper dropped in at City’s training
ground at Belvoir Drive completely unheralded to catch up with old friends.
And he stayed to watch the Under-10s in action and then signed autographs for the
whole team.
“Roy was in my Academy team at Nottingham Forest,” said City Academy director Alan
Hill.
“I got a call on my mobile from Roy saying he was at the training ground.
“He had come to see me and our Under-10s coach Tony Loughran, who was also in the
Forest Academy team with Roy and they forged a lasting friendship.
“It was great of him to stay and give the Under-10s a thrill.
“I did ask him if he could spare a few bob from his £52,000 a week for our Academy. He
didn’t answer!”
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[27] Neil Webb on Fergie
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by tb:
"I think if Steve McClaren was going to get the job Alex would have stayed on as an
advisor.
"If they are going to bring in a name manager - and I think the only man is Martin
O'Neill Celtic manager he would not want that sort of personality behind the scenes
hanging over him."
"Ferguson has done the right thing.
"The sudden thought of retirement may not have appealed. The Barcelona job has been
mentioned before and he might like to give it a go."
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[26] Fergie - I'll be here next season
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by tb:
"It is my intention to be here next season and I am looking forward to it.
"It is a straightforward situation and the reason I said those things is simply that I
had hoped there would be a role for me (a promised role note!), but that's gone now -
we've exhausted that.
"I have turned down quite a few opportunities to do something next year. But I'm going
to be active because I think you'll all agree that once you retire you cannot sit back
and do nothing."
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[25] Key Fergie quote
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
"I have had a fantastic time at Old Trafford over the last 14 years and I am so
grateful for the relationship I have enjoyed with my players and the supporters."
Our Martin & Cuddly Peter - you are the weakest link?
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[24] Sparky surprised
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Mark Hughes:
"When Sir Matt Busby left the job, he stayed on at the club and moved upstairs. There
was a feeling then that there was too much pressure on and maybe that's the feeling
behind it. But I would have thought the next manager would have felt more comfortable
having Alex Ferguson there, if and when he needed any help. Maybe he (Ferguson) has
reached the part of his life where he wants to go in another direction - but whoever
gets the job, the club will be in great shape."
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[23] Utd refuse to comment
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Paddy Harverson: "We have no comment."
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[22] There is no other word for it than turmoil
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Fergie leaving, McClaren being approached by West Ham in a formal manner as obviously
both he and Fergie don't feel he will get the job of Manchester United manager in 12
months time, what we'd like to know is just exactly what the PLC said to Fergie about
Directorship, players we will buy this summer and his replacement?
Why do we get the feeling that he's been betrayed on all of the above and that despite
all the warm words we have heard from the PLC on all three, all they've done is act in
the usual hamfisted manner.
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[21] Oh and by the way
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Becks has had a mohican haircut which he wore on the annual players' end of season
trip to the races.
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[20] It is a very sad fact
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
That in 12 months Fergie will be leaving but we will still have Our Martin at the club.
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[19] It sums it up
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
If true - an unamed Director is quoted in the Mirror as saying:
"He may be a good manager but he doesn't exactly sell the strips, does he?"
No but we buy them - never forget that PLC.
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[18] Interesting to note
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
That Bobby Charlton can get a Directorship but NOT Fergie? How do they work that one
out?
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[17] More from Fergie
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
"It's disappointing to put it mildly. What the club was proposing was not what I was
led to believe. But life goes on and I won't let it bother me. It's just the way
things have worked out. I want to finish my career at United and, as far as I'm
concerned, I will"
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[16] You can stick your PLC up your arse
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
Hardly think the Mirror has it right with the headline 'Fergie walks out on United' -
they haven't given him the role he was expecting and thought was his.
He said: "All talks on that subject are now dead. It is over. I will be leaving Old
Trafford for good"
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[15] Barca in for Fergie
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2001 by bar-knee:
>From PA
'Barcelona could move in for Sir Alex Ferguson next week after he announced he will
leave Old Trafford for good at the end of next season. Ferguson has confirmed he will
sever all ties with Old Trafford when his present contract expires and is not
interested in a seat on the United board. Barca president Joan Gaspart sees Ferguson
as the man to rekindle the fortunes of the ailing Catalan giants. And he is reportedly
willing to more than double his present salary to bring him to the Nou Camp.'
