On Nov 30, 2007 3:29 AM, Jim Grisanzio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: > > http://directorymanager.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/an-open-letter-to-the-opends-community-and-to-sun-microsystems/ > > You know, I'm wondering why you chose to write that subject line, Shawn. > There are no middle managers here on these lists. There are only project > managers who are directly involved in OpenSolaris and engineers of one > sort or another trying to do a difficult job on both sides of the > firewall. How do you expect us Sun employees to react to mail like this? > Do you think we will all just pile on? Should we just ignore it? Do you > think we know the inside story and are keeping it from you? We don't, by > the way.
Nope. I don't think that at all. As I've said many time before, I don't blame the engineers. It's the constant dysfunctional story at Sun between their various layers of management that seems to create the "party" that never stops around here. > Don't you guys realize that this is the single most effective way of > decreasing your credibility while at the same time decreasing the > participation of the very people you need to be interacting with? This > is so disappointing. Don't you realise that stuff like this only continues to cement the view that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand at Sun is doing? I found about this from a blog post Ben Rockwood titled: "Sun continues its crusade to kill itself...." As Ben says, "OpenOffice has been ripped apart, now OpenDS, who knows what else is happening in other open source projects that Sun's involved in." -- http://cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=876#comm My point in posting this was the very real concern that actions like this taken by Sun continue to undermine the community. Sun's actions in *any* projects that they touch affects all projects they are involved with. Whenever people criticise OpenSolaris, they don't just talk about the actions Sun takes in regards to OpenSolaris, they talk about the actions taken in *any* of the projects Sun participates in. While I'm all for Sun's direct involvement in certain areas, I fear what some members of management at Sun might do in other areas. I have almost absolute faith in Sun's engineers; not in their management. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "We don't have enough parallel universes to allow all uses of all junction types--in the absence of quantum computing the combinatorics are not in our favor..." --Larry Wall _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org