Nicely said Mr Fauzi, +1

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, ApOgEE <jerung...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For me, computer is just a tool to do my work. I don't really bother
> whether the OS is Open Source or proprietary. I use them all for certain
> work that they specialize in. For example, if I wanna do VB or VB script to
> solve my customer problem in windows, I will boot my windows and do the
> development and testing there. If I wanna do C or any linux or embedded
> linux work I will boot to my Linux and do my work there. And if I wanna do
> Graphic Design for printing, I will rather use Mac with the tools installed
> in it and finish my work there.
>
> There are a lot of reasons why I choose certain Operating System for
> certain situation to do certain work. It's like when you are choosing
> hammer, to hammer the nail in a wood. You may also use other things like
> stone, iron, or any thing near you to hammer it. But, when you are
> professional in such work, you may choose to use proper tools for proper
> work. Anyway, it is up to you to decide how you are going to finish your
> work. Isn't that the freedom we are searching for?
>
> My point is, keep it simple. Don't blame your torch light because it is not
> bright enough for your big room. Just call an electrician to fix a room
> light for you, turn on the room light and your room will be bright. Unless
> you are a developer or scientist who tried to develop a brightest torch
> light, you will try your best to find the solutions for what you develop.
> And when you have successfully develop them, share your solution to the
> others for the spirit of open source.
>
> OS and distro wars are endless and useless. If you don't like it, do not
> use it. If you think Mac is expensive, don't buy it. And if you encounter
> trouble while using any OS, develop a solution for it if you can, and share
> your solution if you like. Otherwise, you may also sell your solutions.
> Maybe someone will find your solution worth to buy. Please don't blame me
> for not choosing the same OS as you do. Please don't blame other people for
> choosing Microsoft Excel instead of OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet to do their
> work. They have money to buy whatever they like. Awareness is just to make
> people aware that there is alternatives to what they can use to solve their
> work. There is no obligation. Not even government could make that policy to
> only use 'that apps' for 'that works'.
>
> It is not a mentality issue if people choose Toyota instead of Proton Saga.
> We all have our own experience for what we choose. Innovation will not die
> when there is no 'fake support' from local user. Just keep it going and
> improving to beat other innovations if you can. If FiMOS can beat Ubuntu,
> Red Hat, Suse, or any other distro features, just do it!
>
> In my point of view, I see FiMOS is one of the linux distro among thousands
> or millions of other distros that is not currently even listed in
> distrowatch.com
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, zarul shahrin <zarulshah...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The technology being used in RKHunter is 10-15 years behinds any standard
>> Windows anti-rookit.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Muhammad Syafiq <
>> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux?
>>>
>>>
>>> How about rkhunter? Just wonder to know? not expert here. ;)
>>>
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>>> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli
>>> http://syafiq.me
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM, zarul shahrin 
>>> <zarulshah...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini <
>>>> jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, zarul shahrin <zarulshah...@gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why spend so much time and get into so much trouble learning a
>>>>>> hard-to-use tool when you can use the wasted time to tackle new problems
>>>>>> using a tool which is easy to learn?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is it include with virus recovery? oops, I'm wrong..IT'S HARD :p
>>>>>
>>>>> As someone who is working in the security field and who previously
>>>> worked in the AV labs, I would say in most cases any windows machine
>>>> infected by a rootkit is much easier to deal with compare to a Linux 
>>>> machine
>>>> infected by a rootkit. Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for
>>>> Linux?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> but in the end, the people are the one who decide to do it easy way, or
>>>>> the hard way (wah, macam skrip filem pulak).
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Will not argue on this, it's a matter of "choice".  Everyone has
>>>> the right to  choose how they do things as long as they don't go around
>>>> and play down how other people do things.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an
>>>>>>> example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    1. interviewer : what software do you know ?
>>>>>>>    2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school.
>>>>>>>    3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ?
>>>>>>>    4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school
>>>>>>>    only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra')
>>>>>>>    5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very
>>>>>>>    cheap. and no virus.
>>>>>>>    6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and
>>>>>>>    suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>    quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, 
>>>>>>> reconciliation,
>>>>>>>    balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning 
>>>>>>> schedule,
>>>>>>>    manufacturing account.
>>>>>>>    7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya.... mampus lah aku... kenapa
>>>>>>>    sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?]
>>>>>>>    8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti projek
>>>>>>>    crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above
>>>>>>> fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in 
>>>>>>> malaysia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a
>>>>>>> waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread 
>>>>>>> somebody
>>>>>>> mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it is 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing 
>>>>>>> innovation in
>>>>>>> malaysia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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