+1 too ;) On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:36 AM, zarul shahrin <zarulshah...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Nicely said Mr Fauzi, +1 > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:32 AM, ApOgEE <jerung...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> For me, computer is just a tool to do my work. I don't really bother >> whether the OS is Open Source or proprietary. I use them all for certain >> work that they specialize in. For example, if I wanna do VB or VB script to >> solve my customer problem in windows, I will boot my windows and do the >> development and testing there. If I wanna do C or any linux or embedded >> linux work I will boot to my Linux and do my work there. And if I wanna do >> Graphic Design for printing, I will rather use Mac with the tools installed >> in it and finish my work there. >> >> There are a lot of reasons why I choose certain Operating System for >> certain situation to do certain work. It's like when you are choosing >> hammer, to hammer the nail in a wood. You may also use other things like >> stone, iron, or any thing near you to hammer it. But, when you are >> professional in such work, you may choose to use proper tools for proper >> work. Anyway, it is up to you to decide how you are going to finish your >> work. Isn't that the freedom we are searching for? >> >> My point is, keep it simple. Don't blame your torch light because it is >> not bright enough for your big room. Just call an electrician to fix a room >> light for you, turn on the room light and your room will be bright. Unless >> you are a developer or scientist who tried to develop a brightest torch >> light, you will try your best to find the solutions for what you develop. >> And when you have successfully develop them, share your solution to the >> others for the spirit of open source. >> >> OS and distro wars are endless and useless. If you don't like it, do not >> use it. If you think Mac is expensive, don't buy it. And if you encounter >> trouble while using any OS, develop a solution for it if you can, and share >> your solution if you like. Otherwise, you may also sell your solutions. >> Maybe someone will find your solution worth to buy. Please don't blame me >> for not choosing the same OS as you do. Please don't blame other people for >> choosing Microsoft Excel instead of OpenOffice.org Spreadsheet to do their >> work. They have money to buy whatever they like. Awareness is just to make >> people aware that there is alternatives to what they can use to solve their >> work. There is no obligation. Not even government could make that policy to >> only use 'that apps' for 'that works'. >> >> It is not a mentality issue if people choose Toyota instead of Proton >> Saga. We all have our own experience for what we choose. Innovation will not >> die when there is no 'fake support' from local user. Just keep it going and >> improving to beat other innovations if you can. If FiMOS can beat Ubuntu, >> Red Hat, Suse, or any other distro features, just do it! >> >> In my point of view, I see FiMOS is one of the linux distro among >> thousands or millions of other distros that is not currently even listed in >> distrowatch.com >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, zarul shahrin <zarulshah...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> The technology being used in RKHunter is 10-15 years behinds any standard >>> Windows anti-rookit. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Muhammad Syafiq < >>> creativeneur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for Linux? >>>> >>>> >>>> How about rkhunter? Just wonder to know? not expert here. ;) >>>> >>>> محمد شافق بن مذلي >>>> Muhammad Syafiq Bin Mazli >>>> http://syafiq.me >>>> 67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58 >>>> 1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:08 PM, zarul shahrin >>>> <zarulshah...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini < >>>>> jipangmenje...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:43 PM, zarul shahrin < >>>>>> zarulshah...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why spend so much time and get into so much trouble learning a >>>>>>> hard-to-use tool when you can use the wasted time to tackle new problems >>>>>>> using a tool which is easy to learn? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> is it include with virus recovery? oops, I'm wrong..IT'S HARD :p >>>>>> >>>>>> As someone who is working in the security field and who previously >>>>> worked in the AV labs, I would say in most cases any windows machine >>>>> infected by a rootkit is much easier to deal with compare to a Linux >>>>> machine >>>>> infected by a rootkit. Perhaps you can name me one good anti-rootkit for >>>>> Linux? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> but in the end, the people are the one who decide to do it easy way, >>>>>> or the hard way (wah, macam skrip filem pulak). >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Will not argue on this, it's a matter of "choice". Everyone has >>>>> the right to choose how they do things as long as they don't go around >>>>> and play down how other people do things. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an >>>>>>>> example function in excel that my 11 yr old son cannot show you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3/13/11 11:34 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> imagine this interview for a clerical / account officer position : >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. interviewer : what software do you know ? >>>>>>>> 2. interviewee : i have learned fimos at school. >>>>>>>> 3. interviewer : fimos ? do you know how to use excel ? >>>>>>>> 4. interviewee : i dont know eksel. i only know fimos. school >>>>>>>> only teach fimos (interviewee starting to get 'gabra') >>>>>>>> 5. interviewee : they say fimos good. made in malaysia. very >>>>>>>> cheap. and no virus. >>>>>>>> 6. interviewer : malaysian product ? we have customers and >>>>>>>> suppliers all over the world and everybody uses excel. we use excel >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> quotations, purchase orders, bill of material, accounts, >>>>>>>> reconciliation, >>>>>>>> balance sheet, weekly sales reports, claims, overtime, planning >>>>>>>> schedule, >>>>>>>> manufacturing account. >>>>>>>> 7. interviewee : [thinking : aiya.... mampus lah aku... kenapa >>>>>>>> sekolah tak ajar benda jadah eksel ni ?] >>>>>>>> 8. interviewer : [thinking : bodoh punya gomen.. ini mesti >>>>>>>> projek crony. asyik2 bazir duit rakyat macam buat proton saga] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hoping the best for fimos... but as you can see from the above >>>>>>>> fictional use case scenario, there is a huge challenge for oss in >>>>>>>> malaysia. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on top of the mentality that malaysia products are no good and is a >>>>>>>> waste of rakyat's money. i believe that somewhere in this thread >>>>>>>> somebody >>>>>>>> mentioned that the proton saga was a waste of rakyat's money ;p - it >>>>>>>> is this >>>>>>>> attitude that malaysia products are inferior that are killing >>>>>>>> innovation in >>>>>>>> malaysia. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >>>>>>>> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification >>>>>>>> http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >>>>>>> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification >>>>>>> http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Muhd Syazwan @ jipang_menjerit >>>>>> >>>>>> http://about.me/syazwan/bio >>>>>> >>>>>> http://blog.ubuntuseekers.com >>>>>> http://blog.syazwan.co.cc >>>>>> >>>>>> jipangmenje...@gmail.com >>>>>> jipang_menje...@ubuntuseekers.com >>>>>> >>>>>> One Online Radio :: Radio yang Suka Bercakap >>>>>> http://radio.syazwan.co.cc >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >>>>>> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >>>>>> >>>>>> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >>>>>> >>>>>> MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification >>>>>> http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >>>>> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >>>>> >>>>> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >>>>> >>>>> MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification >>>>> http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >>>> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >>>> >>>> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from and detail about this group >>> http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information >>> >>> MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best Wishes, >> >> M. 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