Some points on relevance...

I used to be an accountant. There are many professional bodies that cover
accountants, each being relevant only to the area of accounting they
specialize in. CPAs are not the same as Chartered Accountants, and it is
natural and obvious as an accountant which body you should belong to based
on the type of work you do. For example, a public accountant in a suburban
practice doing individual, small trust and small company returns would be a
CPA, not a Chartered Accountant.

All of the questions you asked have different answers based on which body
you belong to as an accountant.

So, who does the ACS represent? Software engineers? Hardware engineers?
Database administrators? And within these, there are massive subsets, each
with vastly different and perhaps even opposing codes of conduct and
practice. Would the ACS promote "break-nothing" (eg if you worked at a
financial institution), or "break-everything" if you worked at Facebook?

I am not and never have been a member of the ACS. I looked at it but could
never see the relevance. The only advantage was having a few letters at the
end of my name that no one seemed to care about. So instead I got some
other letters that slightly more (and I do mean slightly more) people cared
about (MCSD, MCT).

The questions that you ask are spot-on for a representative professional
body. I just don't feel that they apply to the ACS because who exactly does
it represent - and if the answer is "computer professionals" then that is
so vague as to be meaningless.

That's my 2c.

On 29 February 2016 at 17:21, Peter Griffith <pe...@gui-visuals.com.au>
wrote:

> Cuppla more questions on relevance
>
> Do you subscribe to a professional code of ethics, code of conduct, code
> of practice?
>
> *.*Do you follow an on-going, coherent professional education process.?
>
> Are you accredited by any relevant, recognised, independent body, or by a
> Local, State or Federal  government authority.?
>
> On 29 February 2016 at 16:30, Peter Griffith <pe...@gui-visuals.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Do you belong to a professional body?
>>
>> On 29 February 2016 at 16:27, David Apelt <d...@signmanager.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
>>> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Griffith
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 29 February 2016 4:43 PM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] ACS - relevant?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David, do you consider yourself to be an IT Professional?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 29 February 2016 at 15:35, DotNet Dude <adotnetd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Haven''t even heard ACS since like 2000. Never comes up in interviews or
>>> any conversation at all from my experience.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 3:50 PM, David Apelt <d...@signmanager.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The only time I ever hear of the ASC (Australian Computer Society) is
>>> the punch line in bad IT jokes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But last night I had a Pakistani taxi driver who had just got his
>>> masters in IT.  He spoke with enthusiasm about the ASC and how he was going
>>> to be paying them $12500 over the next year so that he could be accredited
>>> in IT. (!!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just want to test the waters here; are the ASC relevant? Are they
>>> doing a good job? Does anyone ask for ACS accreditation during interviews?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am in Melbourne for work at the moment. Maybe it is a regional thing?
>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Peter Griffith CP
>>> PH: 0408 832 891
>>>
>>
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>>
>> --
>> Peter Griffith CP
>> PH: 0408 832 891
>>
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>
>
> --
> Peter Griffith CP
> PH: 0408 832 891
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