Yes, we have no bananas.

In your rush to disagree, you made my point.  It matters not whether there
is a viable market for an M42 DSLR, what matters is that no company wants to
make it.  The profit is selling DSLRs is in the OEM lenses.  Companies will
take a loss on cameras, knowing that they are making customers for
profitable lenses.

No OEM lens customers = no profit.

No profit = no product.

regards,

Anthony Farr

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <pdml@pdml.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+


> What the heck are you talking about?, of course this camera will
> not get produced unless its profitable to produce it, but there
> is a already market need for one, its just a matter of when it will
> become
> profitable to make one. there is no rush, these lenses are already
> about 25-45 years old and still ticking, they are not going to
> disappear anytime soon.
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Anthony Farr
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:14 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
>
>
> But "They" just don't want to make the camera you want, it's not in
> "Their" interests.  Sad for you and all the other M42 fans, but that
> what big business does, looks after itself instead of the little guys.
>
> regards,
> Anthony Farr
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" <pdml@pdml.net>
> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 4:44 AM
> Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
>
>
> > I think you are seriously overestimating the
> > difficulty in producing/devloping a M42 DSLR, the only signifigant
> > difference from a K100D would be a screw thread flange instead of a K
> > flange and a M42 pin actuator instead of the k lens
> > lever actuator. Nearly all of the remaining
> > hardware would be the same and the software/firmware
> > would be mostly deleting existing features M42 couldnt
> > do.
> > jco
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > Of Cory Papenfuss
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 8:33 AM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> >
> > > I wasnt discussing price, but if you already
> > > have the lenses or want to buy high quality M42
> > > lenses, the higher cost of the body is offset
> > > in the system context because the lenses are
> > > much lower cost ( or no extra cost if you
> > > already have them ) than brand new or recent pentax or canon or
> > > nikon lenses in most cases.
> > >
> > > Yes, low production, high cost electronics items are "rare" but
> > > still do exist. None of my audio gear for example, is mass produced
> > > but I still got them. Look at full frame DSLRs or the new Leica
> > > digital RF. I would not expect a M42 DSLR to be as cheap as a K100D
> > > of course.
> > >
> > > jco
> > >
> >   I really doubt adding another '0' to the price of a K100D would be
> > able to make it a cost-effective design.  Even if everybody who wanted
> > one
> > and was willing to pay for it (that'd be you and maybe 10 other people
> > on
> > the planet), it'd probably have to cost $20K to make back the
> > engineering
> > costs.
> >
> >   It's a similar thing to aircraft avionics.  What amounts to
> > basically a well-built CB radio costs $2500 new.  A similar model
> > costs $1000 for a used one that's 25 years old.  The few companies who
>
> > produce these low-volume devices charge a lot more than what they
> > would if they were commodity.  In some cases (like portable GPS's),
> > for almost identical hardware to a consumer-grade on that costs 1/10th
>
> > the price.
> >
> > -Cory
> >
> > --
> >
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> > **
> > *
> > * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA
> > *
> > * Electrical Engineering
> > *
> > * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University
> > *
> >
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