I used the Cosina Voigtlander 70/2.8 on my old screwmount Leica. Very nice lens. I paid $250 for it in LN condition and sold it for $270 when I had to raise money for D number two. Paul On Feb 22, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
> Note that Cosina is making a killing selling LTM and M mount lenses > that > are almost as good as the Leica's for 1/5th the price, and selling > these > to a lot of Leica users (Cosina makes the only available 15mm and 12mm > lenses for RF's as well). They certainly are subsidizing the bodies > with > the lenses (And it helps that there was little engineering required > for > the bodies, really just designing a good rangefinder system) > > -Adam > > > P. J. Alling wrote: >> I doubt that was the case of the Epson RD-1, or any Voightlander >> Bessa >> film model for that matter as they were aimed directly at the >> existing >> Leica s and l lens base. I doubt that Cosina doesn't at least break >> even, (cover R&D, all manufacturing costs and return on >> investment), on >> every unit sold. They have to or they wouldn't stay in business >> for >> long. >> >> Anthony Farr wrote: >>> Actually, what I was trying to say is that the price of DSLRs is >>> not the >>> real, standalone price of a unique product. It is a subsidised >>> price, >>> where the manufacturer will accept a reduced profit or even a >>> loss in >>> order to tap the more lucrative lens sales that should ensue, or >>> to deny >>> a sale to a rival. >>> >>> If you propose a product that quarantines the manufacturer from his >>> extended income, and he sees that he cannot hope to sell enough >>> cameras >>> at the real, unsubsidised price to break even, then he won't >>> bother at >>> all to bring it to market. The only way to circumvent this >>> situation is >>> to emulate the Arabian prince, and privately fund the project up >>> front >>> with no profit motive attached. The maker could, probably would >>> still >>> decline the commission as it would not enhance his position in his >>> chosen marketplace. >>> >>> Personally, I've always liked modular cameras, and would jump at the >>> multi-platform camera described elsewhere in this thread. But that >>> faces the same hurdle as a dedicated M42 DSLR. I don't believe any >>> maker wants to assist their own customers to purchase lucrative >>> accessories from a competitor. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Anthony Farr >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>> Behalf Of >>> J. C. O'Connell >>> Sent: Thursday, 22 February 2007 7:39 PM >>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>> Subject: RE: 85mm f1.8 SMCT on ebay : $400+ >>> >>> I dont agree that a M42 DSLR based on licensed existing DSLR body >>> and just modified to do M42 auto apeture would be very >>> expensive to develop or produce. And it certainly >>> would be nothing like the cost of a one-off exotic lens if thats >>> what your trying to say. >>> jco >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
