BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }Jon - This is part of an argument we've had before. It depends on the terminology.
For you, the term sign refers to what I term the Representamen, which I consider the Relation of Mediation - and, which holds the habits developed within Thirdness [it can, of course, be in a mode of Firstness or Secondness]. I consider the triad, Sign [capital S] - to be the triad of Object-Representamen-Interpretant - and acknowledge that the Object can be the Immediate Object and the Interpretant can be potential. But, it remains a triad. And - what does the term relation mean? So- "can a relation be a Sign'? It depends what you mean by each term. For me - the interactions, i.e., relations, are vital within the semiosic process [which I see as an active process anyway]. I consider that there are three key relations within the triad; that between the R-O; between the R-I, and the Representamen in itself. The Representamen -in-itself is, in my view, a Relation, seeking out its habits of organization and linking them to the object and transforming them into the interpretant. So- at first thought, I'd say that A single relation can't be a Sign, since the Sign requires a networked set of triadic Relations. But - is a law of Nature a Relation I'd say, yes, since the Law of Nature operates as the Representamen, in a mode of Thirdness. Edwina -- This message is virus free, protected by Primus - Canada's largest alternative telecommunications provider. http://www.primus.ca On Wed 12/04/17 10:14 AM , Jon Alan Schmidt jonalanschm...@gmail.com sent: List: I was finally able to borrow Aaron Bruce Wilson's new book, Peirce's Empiricism: Its Roots and Its Originality, via interlibrary loan this week. Previously I could only access the Google preview, but from that I could tell that the whole thing would be well worth reading. He points out in chapter 2 that a law of nature is a relation, which leads me to pose a new question--can a relation be a Sign? Again, I am referring to the relation itself, not its representation in verbal, diagrammatic, or other form. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USAProfessional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Laymanwww.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt [1] - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt [2] Links: ------ [1] http://www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt [2] http://twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
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