Police Officers make an oath to uphold the
Constitution of the United States of America and the constitution of
the state they serve in. The " Immigration Laws " are past based on
Constitutional Law by the Congress. Hello! Illegal Immigration means
exactly what it says ' Illegal "; ergo, local, state as well as
federal officers are by law,oath, and constitution required to uphold
the LAW. Gheeeee!!
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On Jul 13, 11:54 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is no federal law that requires police or other local government
> agencies to report illegal aliens they encounter to the INS.
>
> On Jul 13, 11:49 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Zeb,
>
> > Bullshit. Since when does local or state laws supercede Federal law?
> > If the Feds cite a local or state law as the reason thay can't do
> > something it's because that's what they want to do and are using the
> > local or state law as an excuse for not doing the job.
>
> > On Jul 13, 10:19 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Look Holly, this stuff is no big secret. Democrat cities like NYC or
> > > San Francisco actually prevent government agencies form reporting
> > > illegal aliens to authorities. The rationale for this is that they
> > > won't report crime to the police or take their children to clinics,
> > > etc., for fear of being deported. Lefties don't even refer to them as
> > > ILLEGAL ALIENS, they call them "immigrants." Personally, the "crisis"
> > > that guys coming up from Mexico to cut lawns and do dishes present
> > > ranks just below the "crisis" that we're just about to burn up the
> > > planet because of the pollution from our expelled breath.
>
> > > On Jul 12, 12:06 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Zeb,
>
> > > > The ACLU is stopping the INS from enforcing the laws against hiring
> > > > illegal immigrants? How, when, where? Show me the proof. I don't give
> > > > the slightest fuck WHO is stopping the enforcement of the laws, my
> > > > suggestion was to ignore such opposition and enforce the damn law.
> > > > Don't give a fuck who is calling enforcing the law "racist". You
> > > > telling me the INS is saying "oh, we can't enforce the law someone
> > > > might think it's racist"? So, if I'm stopped for speeding and a black
> > > > or latino cop pulls me over all I have to do is call his actions
> > > > racist and I won't get a ticket? BULLSHIT.
> > > > Give me a link showing the court order forbidding the INS, a federal
> > > > agency, to enforce laws regarding the hiring of illegal workers.
>
> > > > On Jul 11, 10:53 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Your "criticism" of corporations is stating the obvious. SO FUCKING
> > > > > WHAT?? Who is stopping the enforcement of immigration laws? Who calls
> > > > > them racist? ASSHOLES on the left, thats who.
>
> > > > > On Jul 11, 11:46 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Zeb,
>
> > > > > > And you lack the cajones to even breath a suggestion of what even
> > > > > > might be construed as criticism of American corporations concerning
> > > > > > the issue of illegal immigration. Hasn't this thread PROVEN that?
>
> > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:41 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > You wouldn't have the balls to try to fight such as the ACLU over
> > > > > > > enforcing immigration laws.
>
> > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:18 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > KIT,
>
> > > > > > > > Oh please. Both pissed in their pants and stated talking about
> > > > > > > > "right
> > > > > > > > and wrong" instead of obeying immigration laws. bruce started
> > > > > > > > to cry
> > > > > > > > about "people should be free to work and live where they like".
> > > > > > > > Apparently he considers crossing the border illegally without
> > > > > > > > proper
> > > > > > > > papers to be a mere technicality. All the sudden these illegal
> > > > > > > > immigrants became "visitors".
>
> > > > > > > > And just when did all this loving concern for the illegal
> > > > > > > > immigrants
> > > > > > > > begin? About one minute after I suggested that a good way to
> > > > > > > > stop
> > > > > > > > illegal immigration would be to dry up the jobs which they are
> > > > > > > > coming
> > > > > > > > here to obtain by applying significant punishment to the
> > > > > > > > companies
> > > > > > > > that illegally hire them.
>
> > > > > > > > Let me guess which are the laws those two want lessened? Could
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > possibly be in the area of punishing corporations for breaking
> > > > > > > > immigration laws to the extent of actually improving the
> > > > > > > > situation?
>
> > > > > > > > Tell me, just where in my post did I suggest ANYTHING other than
> > > > > > > > deported captured illegal immigrants? Tell be where I argued
> > > > > > > > with ANY
> > > > > > > > of the posted stats concerning what you illegal immigrants cosy
> > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > society and tax-payers? WHERE?
>
> > > > > > > > MY entire initial post consisted of only my suggestion on how
> > > > > > > > to best
> > > > > > > > and most quickly reduce and limit the illegal immigration
> > > > > > > > problem.
> > > > > > > > Then the lads all started screaming and crying.
>
> > > > > > > > Rather nice attempt at diversion on your part. Now, what do you
> > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > of the proposal I laid out in the initial post. I mean as you
> > > > > > > > are such
> > > > > > > > an advocate of reading carefully and with thoroughness.
>
> > > > > > > > Ciao
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 8:00 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Holly, Holly, Holly.......
>
> > > > > > > > > As I have pointed out to you on numerous occasions, you
> > > > > > > > > should always read
> > > > > > > > > the posts by thinking, well read, conservative Americans
> > > > > > > > > several times
> > > > > > > > > before responding.
>
> > > > > > > > > Zeb and Bruce both are not advocating that laws be broken, or
> > > > > > > > > that illegal
> > > > > > > > > immigrants should not be prosecuted. Just the opposite is
> > > > > > > > > true. Bruce,
> > > > > > > > > and I imagine Zeb also concurs, would like to see much less
> > > > > > > > > laws in this
> > > > > > > > > Nation, but that is getting off of the point of illegal
> > > > > > > > > immigration, and a
> > > > > > > > > federal government who asked all Americans to forego their
> > > > > > > > > civil liberties
> > > > > > > > > in the name of National Security, when at the same time, our
> > > > > > > > > federal
> > > > > > > > > government refused to secure our national borders, allowing
> > > > > > > > > for anyone, to
> > > > > > > > > include folks who frequently sport dirty laundry on their
> > > > > > > > > heads, to enter
> > > > > > > > > our Nation, without any accountability.
>
> > > > > > > > > Further, Bruce, like most thinking Americans and all
> > > > > > > > > conservatives, finds it
> > > > > > > > > repulsive that we, as taxpayers, are footing the bill for
> > > > > > > > > these illegal
> > > > > > > > > aliens, predominately from Mexico, to include their health
> > > > > > > > > care, the
> > > > > > > > > schooling of their children, their food subsidies, and their
> > > > > > > > > criminal
> > > > > > > > > mischief and what that causes to our society both fiscally
> > > > > > > > > and socially.
>
> > > > > > > > > These are not racist sentiments, nor is there any of the
> > > > > > > > > conservatives that
> > > > > > > > > I know of, who are Anti-Mexican. No one wants to curtail any
> > > > > > > > > individual or
> > > > > > > > > their family from wanting to better themselves, their
> > > > > > > > > families, or to
> > > > > > > > > prohibit anyone from prospering. Of course, it is hard for
> > > > > > > > > me to understand
> > > > > > > > > why these folks are not in their own Nation demanding that a
> > > > > > > > > corrupt
> > > > > > > > > government start addressing the poverty; the lack of
> > > > > > > > > services; the neglect
> > > > > > > > > of an infrastructure, especially with a land that is ripe
> > > > > > > > > with natural
> > > > > > > > > resources and a vibrant labor pool, but as most socialists and
> > > > > > > > > liberals believe, these folks think that America owes them
> > > > > > > > > something, and I,
> > > > > > > > > like many thinking, conservative Americans resent that. I
> > > > > > > > > tend to believe
> > > > > > > > > that Bruce and Zeb do also.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Hollywood
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > bruce,
>
> > > > > > > > > > First thing I learned about the law was that in many cases
> > > > > > > > > > it has
> > > > > > > > > > nothing whatsoever to do with justice. You sound like a
> > > > > > > > > > little kid
> > > > > > > > > > crying to mama that "it's just not FAIR!!!". Check into
> > > > > > > > > > Hotel Reality
> > > > > > > > > > lad.
> > > > > > > > > > I hate to be the one to have to break this to you, it
> > > > > > > > > > saddens me
> > > > > > > > > > somewhat to burst your little bubble. Oh yeah, and Santa
> > > > > > > > > > Claus is also
> > > > > > > > > > not real.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Tell me lad, who's version of "justice" would you like to
> > > > > > > > > > measure
> > > > > > > > > > everything against?
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 4:10 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes and as we all know law and justice are identical
> > > > > > > > > > > aren't they
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Hollywood
> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]
> > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > bruce,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, they are called LAWS. Duuuuuuh.....
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ya' think the FBI would give the slightest fuck if I
> > > > > > > > > > > > were to decide I
> > > > > > > > > > > > have the RIGHT to rob a bank? OR the INS if I think
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's RIGHT to
> > > > > > > > > > > > ignore our immigration laws? Feel free to do what you
> > > > > > > > > > > > think is right
> > > > > > > > > > > > lad, just be prepared to take the consequences if the
> > > > > > > > > > > > law in this
> > > > > > > > > > > > country runs counter to what you think is right.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Guess what? Some radical Islamics think it is right and
> > > > > > > > > > > > moral to
> > > > > > > > > > > > strangle their daughter for wearing a mini-skirt. Here
> > > > > > > > > > > > in St. Louis we
> > > > > > > > > > > > called that murder and arrest your sorry ass.
> > > > > > > > > > > > My, my, bruce defending Islamic nut-jobs because they
> > > > > > > > > > > > are only doing
> > > > > > > > > > > > what they think is right and moral.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 9:49 am, bruce majors
> > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a more abstract discussion than that Holly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You believe that what governments say is important
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and has something
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with what is wrong or right
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You believe they are the source of rights
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Hollywood <
>
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