There is no federal law that requires police or other local government agencies to report illegal aliens they encounter to the INS.
On Jul 13, 11:49 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > Zeb, > > Bullshit. Since when does local or state laws supercede Federal law? > If the Feds cite a local or state law as the reason thay can't do > something it's because that's what they want to do and are using the > local or state law as an excuse for not doing the job. > > On Jul 13, 10:19 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Look Holly, this stuff is no big secret. Democrat cities like NYC or > > San Francisco actually prevent government agencies form reporting > > illegal aliens to authorities. The rationale for this is that they > > won't report crime to the police or take their children to clinics, > > etc., for fear of being deported. Lefties don't even refer to them as > > ILLEGAL ALIENS, they call them "immigrants." Personally, the "crisis" > > that guys coming up from Mexico to cut lawns and do dishes present > > ranks just below the "crisis" that we're just about to burn up the > > planet because of the pollution from our expelled breath. > > > On Jul 12, 12:06 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Zeb, > > > > The ACLU is stopping the INS from enforcing the laws against hiring > > > illegal immigrants? How, when, where? Show me the proof. I don't give > > > the slightest fuck WHO is stopping the enforcement of the laws, my > > > suggestion was to ignore such opposition and enforce the damn law. > > > Don't give a fuck who is calling enforcing the law "racist". You > > > telling me the INS is saying "oh, we can't enforce the law someone > > > might think it's racist"? So, if I'm stopped for speeding and a black > > > or latino cop pulls me over all I have to do is call his actions > > > racist and I won't get a ticket? BULLSHIT. > > > Give me a link showing the court order forbidding the INS, a federal > > > agency, to enforce laws regarding the hiring of illegal workers. > > > > On Jul 11, 10:53 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Your "criticism" of corporations is stating the obvious. SO FUCKING > > > > WHAT?? Who is stopping the enforcement of immigration laws? Who calls > > > > them racist? ASSHOLES on the left, thats who. > > > > > On Jul 11, 11:46 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Zeb, > > > > > > And you lack the cajones to even breath a suggestion of what even > > > > > might be construed as criticism of American corporations concerning > > > > > the issue of illegal immigration. Hasn't this thread PROVEN that? > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:41 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > You wouldn't have the balls to try to fight such as the ACLU over > > > > > > enforcing immigration laws. > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 10:18 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > KIT, > > > > > > > > Oh please. Both pissed in their pants and stated talking about > > > > > > > "right > > > > > > > and wrong" instead of obeying immigration laws. bruce started to > > > > > > > cry > > > > > > > about "people should be free to work and live where they like". > > > > > > > Apparently he considers crossing the border illegally without > > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > papers to be a mere technicality. All the sudden these illegal > > > > > > > immigrants became "visitors". > > > > > > > > And just when did all this loving concern for the illegal > > > > > > > immigrants > > > > > > > begin? About one minute after I suggested that a good way to stop > > > > > > > illegal immigration would be to dry up the jobs which they are > > > > > > > coming > > > > > > > here to obtain by applying significant punishment to the companies > > > > > > > that illegally hire them. > > > > > > > > Let me guess which are the laws those two want lessened? Could it > > > > > > > possibly be in the area of punishing corporations for breaking > > > > > > > immigration laws to the extent of actually improving the > > > > > > > situation? > > > > > > > > Tell me, just where in my post did I suggest ANYTHING other than > > > > > > > deported captured illegal immigrants? Tell be where I argued with > > > > > > > ANY > > > > > > > of the posted stats concerning what you illegal immigrants cosy > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > society and tax-payers? WHERE? > > > > > > > > MY entire initial post consisted of only my suggestion on how to > > > > > > > best > > > > > > > and most quickly reduce and limit the illegal immigration problem. > > > > > > > Then the lads all started screaming and crying. > > > > > > > > Rather nice attempt at diversion on your part. Now, what do you > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > of the proposal I laid out in the initial post. I mean as you are > > > > > > > such > > > > > > > an advocate of reading carefully and with thoroughness. > > > > > > > > Ciao > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 8:00 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Holly, Holly, Holly....... > > > > > > > > > As I have pointed out to you on numerous occasions, you should > > > > > > > > always read > > > > > > > > the posts by thinking, well read, conservative Americans > > > > > > > > several times > > > > > > > > before responding. > > > > > > > > > Zeb and Bruce both are not advocating that laws be broken, or > > > > > > > > that illegal > > > > > > > > immigrants should not be prosecuted. Just the opposite is > > > > > > > > true. Bruce, > > > > > > > > and I imagine Zeb also concurs, would like to see much less > > > > > > > > laws in this > > > > > > > > Nation, but that is getting off of the point of illegal > > > > > > > > immigration, and a > > > > > > > > federal government who asked all Americans to forego their > > > > > > > > civil liberties > > > > > > > > in the name of National Security, when at the same time, our > > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > > government refused to secure our national borders, allowing for > > > > > > > > anyone, to > > > > > > > > include folks who frequently sport dirty laundry on their > > > > > > > > heads, to enter > > > > > > > > our Nation, without any accountability. > > > > > > > > > Further, Bruce, like most thinking Americans and all > > > > > > > > conservatives, finds it > > > > > > > > repulsive that we, as taxpayers, are footing the bill for these > > > > > > > > illegal > > > > > > > > aliens, predominately from Mexico, to include their health > > > > > > > > care, the > > > > > > > > schooling of their children, their food subsidies, and their > > > > > > > > criminal > > > > > > > > mischief and what that causes to our society both fiscally and > > > > > > > > socially. > > > > > > > > > These are not racist sentiments, nor is there any of the > > > > > > > > conservatives that > > > > > > > > I know of, who are Anti-Mexican. No one wants to curtail any > > > > > > > > individual or > > > > > > > > their family from wanting to better themselves, their families, > > > > > > > > or to > > > > > > > > prohibit anyone from prospering. Of course, it is hard for me > > > > > > > > to understand > > > > > > > > why these folks are not in their own Nation demanding that a > > > > > > > > corrupt > > > > > > > > government start addressing the poverty; the lack of services; > > > > > > > > the neglect > > > > > > > > of an infrastructure, especially with a land that is ripe with > > > > > > > > natural > > > > > > > > resources and a vibrant labor pool, but as most socialists and > > > > > > > > liberals believe, these folks think that America owes them > > > > > > > > something, and I, > > > > > > > > like many thinking, conservative Americans resent that. I tend > > > > > > > > to believe > > > > > > > > that Bruce and Zeb do also. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Hollywood > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > bruce, > > > > > > > > > > First thing I learned about the law was that in many cases it > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > nothing whatsoever to do with justice. You sound like a > > > > > > > > > little kid > > > > > > > > > crying to mama that "it's just not FAIR!!!". Check into Hotel > > > > > > > > > Reality > > > > > > > > > lad. > > > > > > > > > I hate to be the one to have to break this to you, it saddens > > > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > somewhat to burst your little bubble. Oh yeah, and Santa > > > > > > > > > Claus is also > > > > > > > > > not real. > > > > > > > > > > Tell me lad, who's version of "justice" would you like to > > > > > > > > > measure > > > > > > > > > everything against? > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 4:10 pm, bruce majors <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes and as we all know law and justice are identical aren't > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Hollywood > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, they are called LAWS. Duuuuuuh..... > > > > > > > > > > > Ya' think the FBI would give the slightest fuck if I were > > > > > > > > > > > to decide I > > > > > > > > > > > have the RIGHT to rob a bank? OR the INS if I think it's > > > > > > > > > > > RIGHT to > > > > > > > > > > > ignore our immigration laws? Feel free to do what you > > > > > > > > > > > think is right > > > > > > > > > > > lad, just be prepared to take the consequences if the law > > > > > > > > > > > in this > > > > > > > > > > > country runs counter to what you think is right. > > > > > > > > > > > Guess what? Some radical Islamics think it is right and > > > > > > > > > > > moral to > > > > > > > > > > > strangle their daughter for wearing a mini-skirt. Here in > > > > > > > > > > > St. Louis we > > > > > > > > > > > called that murder and arrest your sorry ass. > > > > > > > > > > > My, my, bruce defending Islamic nut-jobs because they are > > > > > > > > > > > only doing > > > > > > > > > > > what they think is right and moral. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 11, 9:49 am, bruce majors <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a more abstract discussion than that Holly > > > > > > > > > > > > You believe that what governments say is important and > > > > > > > > > > > > has something > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > with what is wrong or right > > > > > > > > > > > > > You believe they are the source of rights > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are wrong > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Hollywood < > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bruce, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I visit Mexico I do it legally. It's not called > > > > > > > > > > > > > a "visit" when > > > > > > > > > > > > > you cross a border illegally. My, my look at all the > > > > > > > > > > > > > conservatives > > > > > > > > > > > > > defending illegal aliens and encouraging the > > > > > > > > > > > > > violation of American > > > > > > > > > law > > > > > > > > > > > > > and sovereignty. What has suddenly happened to you > > > > > > > > > > > > > lads? > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
