Sure, why not. Also vote out all the Republicans in the house who voted against repeal. Hundreds of them.
On 12/22/10, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > Does the same go for the 26 Democratic members of the House that > voted > against DADT [repeal]?? > -------------------------------- > > Uh oh! > > Tom? > > > > On Dec 22, 10:27 am, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> Does the same go for the 26 Democratic members of the House that voted >> against DADT?? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I disagree. >> >> > 31 Republican Senators voted against stand alone DADT repeal. They >> > have now blatantly exposed their stand alone homophobia. John McCain, >> > who attempted to filibuster DADT repeal, is the worst of the lot. We >> > must now vote all 31 of them out of office. >> >> > On 12/18/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will >> > > pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the Omnibus >> > > earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn something >> > > but >> > > I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of the votes >> > > against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other than DADT. >> > > Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming anything >> > > that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone. Obviously >> > > that is not so. >> >> > > On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> > >> Victory! Senate Repeals ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’, Despite 31 >> > >> Republican >> > >> No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a long >> > >> overdue >> > >> victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and Passige of ENDA >> > >> and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for Civil >> > >> Rights are next. >> >> > >> Senate Repeals ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ >> >> > >> Drew Angerer/The New York Times >> > >> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority Leader >> > >> Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the “don’t ask, don’t >> > >> tell” vote. >> >> > >> By CARL HULSE >> > >> nk WASHINGTON — The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down the ban >> > >> on >> > >> gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing to a >> > >> close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of >> > >> Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their >> > >> sexual >> > >> orientation. >> >> > >> Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. Lieberman, Susan >> > >> Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on the repeal >> > >> of “don’t ask, don’t tell.” >> >> > >> By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining Democrats, the >> > >> Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the >> > >> Clinton-era law, known as “don’t ask, don’t tell,” a policy critics >> > >> said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that treated >> > >> gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens. >> >> > >> Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to reverse the >> > >> ban, and said it was “time to close this chapter in our history.” >> >> > >> “As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced that making >> > >> this change will only underscore the professionalism of our troops as >> > >> the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has ever >> > >> known,” he said in a statement after the Senate, on a preliminary >> > >> 63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final action on >> > >> the repeal bill. >> >> > >> The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the end of >> > >> racial segregation in the military. >> >> > >> It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined the policy >> > >> could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit cohesion and >> > >> retention, though members of combat units and the Marine Corps >> > >> expressed greater reservations about the shift. Congressional action >> > >> was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to a >> > >> court-ordered end. >> >> > >> Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to abolish what >> > >> they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable personnel and >> > >> forced troops to lie to serve their country. >> >> > >> “We righted a wrong,” said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the >> > >> independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to end the >> > >> ban. “Today we’ve done justice.” >> >> > >> Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that would >> > >> have >> > >> created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants who came >> > >> to the United States at a young age, completed two years of college >> > >> or >> > >> military service and met other requirements including passing a >> > >> criminal background check. >> >> > >> The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five votes >> > >> short of the number needed to clear the way for final passage of what >> > >> is known as the Dream Act. >> >> > >> The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate beyond >> > >> that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control of the >> > >> House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to bring it to a >> > >> vote. >> >> > >> The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, engaging in an >> > >> emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as advocates >> > >> for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people interested in >> > >> the fate of both the military and immigration measures. >> >> > >> “I don’t care who you love,” Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon, >> > >> said as the debate opened. “If you love this country enough to risk >> > >> your life for it, you shouldn’t have to hide who you are.” >> >> > >> Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying earlier that >> > >> he >> > >> would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing final tests >> > >> before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday. >> >> > >> The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as Democrats >> > >> sought to force through a final few priorities before they turn over >> > >> control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans in January >> > >> and see their clout in the Senate diminished. >> >> > >> It represented a significant victory for the White House, >> > >> Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who have >> > >> pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993 under the >> > >> Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the practice of >> > >> barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service. >> >> > >> Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the gay >> > >> community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of “don’t ask, >> > >> don’t tell” exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber after the vote. >> >> > >> “Today’s vote means gay and lesbian service members posted all around >> > >> the world can stand taller knowing that ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ will >> > >> soon be coming to an end,” said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army veteran and >> > >> executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. >> >> > >> Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party’s >> > >> presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the repeal and >> > >> said the vote was a sad day in history. >> >> > >> “I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will understand >> > >> that we are doing great damage,” Mr. McCain said. “And we could >> > >> possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps said, >> > >> and >> > >> as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the >> > >> military, >> > >> harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our young men >> > >> and women in the military.” >> >> > >> He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change could harm >> > >> the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military operations, >> > >> particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from enlisting or >> > >> pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite support >> > >> for >> > >> repealing the ban from Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. >> > >> Mike >> > >> Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, other military >> > >> commanders have warned that changing the practice would prove >> > >> disruptive. >> >> > >> “This isn’t broke,” Senator James M. Inhofe, Republican of Oklahoma, >> > >> said about the policy. “It is working very well.” >> >> > >> Other Republicans said that while the policy might need to be changed >> > >> at some point, Congress should not do so when American troops are >> > >> fighting overseas. >> >> > >> Only a week ago, the effort to repeal the “don’t ask, don’t tell” >> > >> policy seemed to be dead and in danger of fading for at least two >> > >> years with Republicans about to take control of the House. The >> > >> provision eliminating the ban was initially included in a broader >> > >> Pentagon policy bill, and Republican backers of repeal had refused to >> > >> join in cutting off a filibuster against the underlying bill because >> > >> of objections over limits on debate of the measure. >> >> > >> In a last-ditch effort, Mr. Lieberman and Senator Susan Collins of >> > >> Maine, a key Republican opponent of the ban, encouraged Democratic >> > >> Congressional leaders to instead pursue a vote on simply repealing >> > >> it. >> > >> The House passed the measure earlier in the week. >> >> > >> The repeal will not take effect for at least 60 days, and probably >> > >> longer, while some other procedural steps are taken. In addition, the >> > >> bill requires the defense secretary to determine that policies are in >> > >> place to carry out the repeal “consistent with military standards for >> > >> readiness, effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and >> > >> retention.” >> >> > >> Multimedia >> > >> Interactive Graphic >> > >> How the Senate Voted >> >> > >> Timeline >> > >> Congressional Action on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" >> >> > >> Blogs >> > >> The Caucus >> > >> The latest on President Obama, the new Congress and other news from >> > >> Washington and around the nation. Join the discussion. >> >> > >> FiveThirtyEight: Nate Silver's Political Calculus >> > >> More Politics News >> > >> “It is going to take some time,” Ms. Collins said. “It is not going >> > >> to >> > >> happen overnight.” >> >> > >> In a statement, Mr. Gates said that once the measure was signed into >> > >> law, he would “immediately proceed with the planning necessary to >> > >> carry out this change carefully and >> >> ... >> >> read more »- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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