At 08:42 PM 1/23/2007 -0300, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
...
> > Nope. By my definition you are not a Christian because you refuse to 
> accept
> > God's Grace into your heart.
>
>Hey! Didn't you say we have no control whatsoever over 'god's grace'?
>So if there's nothing you can do to get it, then there's nothing you can
>do to refuse it. Or do you question god's omnipotence?
...

I don't recall saying that. I've been saying things like we can't save 
ourselves only God's grace can do that. Is that clearer?

God gave us free will. So we make choices all the time. The most critical 
choice, IMO, is whether or not to accept that we cannot obtain our own 
salvation. E.g. we can't work it off, we can't buy it off, we can't 
"intellectualize" it, etc. We have to accept God's grace, personally.

So I don't deny God's Omnipotence, but I do think He uses it where He 
wants. So maybe He will bring all souls to Him in the end, I don't know. 
All I know is His words while He was here on Earth say that is not how it's 
going to be.

-Charlie



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