The Pope is the head of the Church. He only represents Christ on earth. He
is infallible (speaks the truth) in matters of faith only. That has occurred
only a few times in the history of the Church. Otherwise the Pope is no
different than you or I. He may have been elevated to a Christ like figure
by some but he is only a temporal leader of the Church.

The problem with the Catholic Church is insecure male ego. I have been
involved with several Catholic organizations and ultimately I leave because
insecure male ego gets in the way of the mission. Christ was inclusive and
wanted community. Unfortunately I see power hungry exclusivity and sometimes
the demise of strong healthy vibrant community.

If you can see through the s**t, a jewel of faith shines through and grows
in brilliance.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Charlie Coleman
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] Gonzales warns judges not to meddle

At 08:56 PM 1/23/2007 -0300, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:
> > Of course that's not correct.  You have to be sincere
> > in your confession and avoid doing the same wrong
> > things.
> >
>
>Just ignorant bullshit. There have been Popes that granted certified
>pardons for all sins in exchange for money or some political favor. And
>what a Pope says, goes.

Well, you see, that kind of action is what has done great harm to people's 
views of Christianity. Non-believers love to cite such acts in history as 
proof the religion is meaningless. E.g. just give enough money and you'll 
buy your way to heaven. That's just about as far from Christianity as you 
can get.

Unfortunately, I think the Papcy (if that's the correct term) is where the 
Catholic Church has gone the most wrong. As I understand it, the 
traditional Catholic teaching is that the Pope is almost synonymous with 
Christ when He was on Earth. I think that is wrong, and actually flies in 
the face of Biblical teaching. I apologize if I'm misstating the Catholic
view.

-Charlie 



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