Hi Tibor! Perfectly agree with using 700 in display if no 100 exists due to an error. Also, something like bibcheck should complain about the record. Note that in our websubmit we enforce proper 100/700. But of course from bibedit (only available to staff) one could break it.
Note, however, that "first by line ordering" in the record might not be correct. I did not yet find which process in invenio but there is at least one who happily mixes lines up. As Marc is ignorant about line ordering (only those orderly librarians like to keep everything nice an tidy) one has to take $b into account here. Thus, probably missing $b should also rise some error in bibcheck. Last but not lest: 110 and friends have the same first/second concept as 100/700. So they should be included in the checks. Note from our experience that we have only a few papers of the latter kind. Its common in grey literature, however (E.g. Scientific Report of...) Most users, however, are not comfortable with this distinction, so to our experiences to get this right is left to a skilled cataloguer. -- Kind regards, Alexander Wagner Subject Specialist Central Library 52425 Juelich mail : a.wag...@fz-juelich.de phone: +49 2461 61-1586 Fax : +49 2461 61-6103 www.fz-juelich.de/zb/DE/zb-fi ----- Reply message ----- From: "Tibor Simko" <tibor.si...@cern.ch> Date: Thu, Mar 27, 2014 19:43 Subject: [pu jsonalchemy] Aggregation of several fields into now To: "Wagner, Alexander" <a.wag...@fz-juelich.de> Cc: "lars.holm.niel...@cern.ch" <lars.holm.niel...@cern.ch>, "esteban.jose.garcia.gaban...@cern.ch" <esteban.jose.garcia.gaban...@cern.ch>, "project-invenio-devel@cern.ch" <project-invenio-devel@cern.ch> On Thu, 27 Mar 2014, Wagner, Alexander wrote: > In some areas of research author ordering can cause sort of religious > wars. And I may also add that depending on the area of research, the > question "I want all my papers, but only those where I am the first > author" is /very/ common. Up to the notion "my papers" == only those > where I am the first author == only those count at all. Yes, this use case is very important; however in case 100 is missing because of some mistake, then the first author from 700 would "take its role" until the problem is spotted by the record checked and fixed by the cataloguer. Seems OK to me; otherwise there would be no "first author" at all, only "additional authors", which is illogical. (And if there is indeed no first author, then people should be probably using "corporate author" concept, i.e. 110 and such.) Best regards -- Tibor Simko ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH 52425 Juelich Sitz der Gesellschaft: Juelich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Dueren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: MinDir Dr. Karl Eugen Huthmacher Geschaeftsfuehrung: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Karsten Beneke (stellv. Vorsitzender), Prof. Dr.-Ing. Harald Bolt, Prof. Dr. Sebastian M. Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
