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www.macnamaras.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:08 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software pirates in our midst? > > On 7 Nov 2002, at 0:52, Mike MacNamara wrote: > > > > > Hi Folks > > I was going to keep out of this, I am not going to takes sides. > > BUT, there seems to be an opinion that the License controlled by > > Wolfgang is a final solution to the SMSQ debate. > > Well, legally - yes. > > > I would just like to note that several folks have not agreed to > > this license, > Indeed. > > > else they would have asked Wolfgang to be a > > reseller, surely then, as they do not wish to agree to new terms, they > > must be legally able to continue as they did before the license was > > envisaged, > > No, sorry, this is wrong. If you don't agree with the licence, then > you stop. Do you mean that the many copies I have of SMSQ, if I don't agree to be bound a a new imposed license, are illegal. That can't be right, I have bought an item, and must surely be able to continue using it, while still being entitled to expect it is repaired or updated under warranty, ( sale of goods acts) > > > in other words before they can be held to have to comply > > with a new set of rules, they would have to agree these changes. > > NO. Sorry,, this sounds harsh, but the licence holder may change > the licence. If you don't agree wiht the licence, then you just must > walk away. Not when he has been paid for and concluded the sale. > > > Otherwise the new license would not apply to them. You can't decide to > > change the terms of sale, long after you sold the item, without the > > consent of the buyer. > True - so nothing changes WITH THE ITEMS THEY HAVE SOLD > UNDER THE OLD LICENCE. > > > If they don't want to be held liable to this > > license, why should they pay a new charge, they will be able to > > continue with the contract they already have > In this respect, you are right. > > But, they are selling new versions now. According to D&Ds post, the 'repair' was minor, to make the item able to be used for the purpose it was purchased. If the Grafs have purchased a license to use SMSQ with Q40/60, then surely they must get SMSQ/E that works with that platform, if not, then they have been sold something unsuitable for the purpose it was purchased. Sorry to labour the point, not only I, but hundreds of others, have purchased multiple copies of SMSQ/E with various bits and bobs over many years. Don't tell me now that the copies Roy Wood sells of SMSQ Gold which has been altered (not just repaired) is illegal, and that I am a pirate. Regards Mike > > > Wolfgang > >