> You ask about the value of a non-enforced code. I think it's valuable > to have something to point to, both for setting expectations for new > contributors and a reminder for long-timers when things get heated. It > allows one to succinctly re-direct trolls rather than feed them. It > gives further weight to requests for civility: pointing to the code > makes it clear that I am not making a request on behalf of myself, > rather on behalf of the entire community. (Corollary, if you think > your behavior is acceptable to the majority of the community, call for > a vote to change the code. That'll be pretty rare...) >
+1 That was also my point! > > Explicit, external enforcement has downsides as well. It greatly > complicates things. It adds an (often unnecessary) level of formality. > It often leads to the quagmire of drawing drawing of hard lines on > such squishy topics. It diminishes the motivation for "ordinary" users > to call out such behavior as that is "someone else's job." Though > public shaming should be avoided, one of the strongest ways to send a > message (to the offender and everyone else) about our values is via > public requests rather than private complaints. Also, what if one > doesn't agree with the enforcers? Is there an appeals process? How > small of an issue is too small? These are things I'd rather avoid > unless it becomes absolutely necessary (which I don't think is the > case--we're generally doing pretty well). > > What we're after here is a good culture, and cultures are neigh > impossible to enforce but can be guided. I think it would serve us > better for the community remain self-policing than abdicate the > responsibility elsewhere (e.g. a separate sage-abuse group). An > "un-enforced" code/guidelines can help with this. > > - Robert > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
