Re: [AI] pass is issued only for 5 years only

[SANTOSH GANDIGUDE]

The same problem with me. IR is not issuing pass to 75% even both eyed Blind 
persons who can not see less than 3-4 feet.this is injustice with us.

On Sun, 31/1/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:

 Subject: [AI] pass is issued only for 5 years only
 To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 
 Date: Sunday, 31 January, 2016, 3:01 PM
 
 indian railways is issueing pass only
 for 5 years only again to renew
 it we should go to d.r.m. office which will creat troubles
 for us
 
 On 1/31/16, sazid shaik 
 wrote:
 > in my view railway will issue pass for only completly
 blind only.  As
 > they do not know technically.  for example I am
 suffering from RP 6
 > years back i can identify things at that time i faced
 lot of problems
 > for getting concession certificate.
 >
 > regard,
 > sazid
 >
 > On 1/31/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI 
 wrote:
 >> dear list members resently i had visited d.r.m.
 office at guntakallu
 >> in andhrapradesh to get permanent railway pass for
 the visually
 >> disabled persons. there they issued passes only for
 the persons who
 >> are 100 percent blind. when i asked the reason why
 they are not
 >> issueing pass for people with low vision the answer
 they gave me was
 >> that if some one donates eyes then the visually
 disabled persons would
 >> recover sight. i felt that the answer was
 rediculous. friends if
 >> anyone have the set of guidelines for issueing
 railway pass please
 >> share with me. with regards.
 >>
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[AI] regarding news reading app

[Vikas Gupta]

deer friends when i instal toi app my phone is hanging. what should i
do. i am not able to read news properly. please help me.

-- 
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mobile no: 7503616008


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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[avinash shahi]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/varanasi/First-blind-friendly-train-arrives-Varanasi/articleshow/50762294.cms

On 1/31/16, Vedprakash Sharma  wrote:
> It cannot.
> We cannot find the desired seat number through audio announcement.
> Neither can we locate the toilets etc through audio signals.
> If my coach Number is S3 and seat number is 36, I cannot find it by audio
> announcements.
> I have either to ask for someone's assistance or have to touch the
> designated braille signage.
> If there is another alternative, please do tell.
>
> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>
> -Original Message-
> From: li...@srinivasu.org [mailto:li...@srinivasu.org]
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:44 PM
> To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
> accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
> 
> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
> Mysuru, Varanasi
>
> As many folks mentioned, audio  announcements and human assistance would
> help.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>
>> On 31-Jan-2016, at 15:03, Vedprakash Sharma 
>> wrote:
>>
>> We are criticising the system but are not giving alternate solutions.
>> If Braille is not desirable to locate births, compartments etc, what is
>> the better solution?
>>
>> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org
>> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:28 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs
>> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
>>
>> Manish, in general, I agree. But...
>>
>> Would you be comfortable touching seats in a train compartment. How would
>> you know if there is no one seated?
>> Secondly, it is usual that cleanliness in our railway stations is poor.
>> Would you be comfortable touching a dirty wall?
>>
>> It's also true that there would be baggage or other goods anywhere, what's
>> the guarantee that you don't bump into them?
>>
>> Installing Braille signages involves huge investment. Unless Railways
>> ensure practical usage, the investment go waste.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C
>>
>>> On 30-Jan-2016, at 08:02, Manish Agrawal  wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree. Braille signage in public places is good.
>>> Why do people believe it is a bad idea? And what is a better alternative?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Manish
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of sanjay
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:04 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs
>>> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
>>>
>>> Blind organisations can think only from their perspective.  either
>>> government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole
>>> cannot have such a narrow perspective.  Whether you like it or not,
>>> for deaf-blind persons braille is the best option.  Those who think
>>> having braille symbols in public places is not a solution should do
>>> their homework again.  Any disability organisation which might have
>>> advocated braille in public places have done so, considering the
>>> needs of all disability categories.  Let there be braille and audio.
>>> We soil our hands while reading braille symbols not because of braille
>>> but because of uncivilised behaviour of our people.
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerningthe disabled." 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM
>>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs
>>> Between Mysuru,Varanasi
>>>
>>>
 I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille
 has to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what
 he/she prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option.

 Warm Regards,
 Tilak.

> On 1/27/16, George Abraham  wrote:
> We all know who the Govt consults!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
> On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
> Mysuru, Varanasi
>
> I had the pleasure of telling the 

[AI] North Zone Blind Cricket tournment of 8 team completed successfully by BCA in Panchkula Haryana.

[Blind Cricket Association, INDIA]

Blind Cricket association India recently concluded North Zone Cricket
Tournament for Blind totally on our own effort in Panchkula Haryana in
which 8 states had participated from north India from 29th January
2016 to 31st January 2016.  This tournament was a grand success.  The
summary of tournament is as follows the teams were divided into two
groups A & B of four teams each, in Group a Punjab, Jammu & Kashmir,
Delhi & Haryana were & in Group B Himachal Pradesh, Chandigarh, Uttera
Khand & Utter Pradesh,, the matches were played in three ground in
Panchkula Haryana,  included Tau Devi Lal Stadium, CLDAV Public school
ground & Sutlej Public school ground on the first day Inauguration
match was played between Punjab & Haryana in Tau Devi Lal Stadium
which was inaugurated by Panchkula MLA ShreeGyan Chand Gupta the final
match was to be played by top good teams of both group from group a
Haryana entered final & from group b Utter Pradesh entered final.  The
final match was played between Haryana & U.P. in Tau Devi Lal Stadium
& won by Haryana by 6 wickets still 9 overs to go of 20 overs match.
The chief Guest for final match was Kings 11 Punjab player of IPL
Shree,Karan Veer & local Municipal councilor Shree Ravikant Swami gave
prizes to Winning & runners team.  The grand success of this
tournament was done by our BCA team comprising Shree. J.P.Kumar
Treasurer BCA, Dr.Rawat Ji Tournment Manager, Shree Athul Goyal
Tournment Co coordinator, Shree M.L.Mishra sir former Indian team
coach, Shree Nirmal Kumar former international player, Shree.Ishak
Mohammud BCA Rajasthan, & our south zone secretary Shree.Vivek
Doddamani who worked hard for grand success of this tournament & BCA
heartily grateful for all local of panchkula people who helped us lot
in making this tournament success.  Dr.Rawat ji our tournament manager
gave Rs.500 for each six hit by players, Shree.Deepak Malik from
Haryana hit 9 sixes in one match & also got man of series in the
tournament, He is from Haryana & present international player in
Indian team.   Many international players also of Indian team had
participated in this tournament.  For this tournament BCA had called
umpires from Indore Madhya Pradesh for umpiring Shree.Shubam &
Shree.Vishal for not favouring any north india teams, specially these
two umpires took position in Tau Devi lal stadium, where main matches
to be played other umpires were from Panchkula itself, but they did
not umpire any match played by Haryana that is home team, because of
complaints that local umpires favour home team.

-- 
BLIND CRICKET ASSOCIATION
The True Spirit of Cricket
New Delhi, India.
Contact : +91-9868169858, 9266601661, 9313585077
Website : www.blindcricketindia.com
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[AI] Important: Ministers proposed to drop the Disability Commission from the new proposed disability law TEENA THACKAR

[avinash shahi]

Though this shocking news is there in the AsianAge today, However the
source is not cited clearly. Should we wait?
http://www.asianage.com/india/mental-illness-out-new-law-disability-189

In what could be a huge blow to the disability movement, the Narendra
Modi government is planning to keep out “mental illness” from the
ambit of the long-delayed law planned on disabilities.

Reliable sources said that under the proposed Rights of Persons with
Disabilities Bill 2014, now being considered by a Group of Ministers
under the chairmanship of home minister Rajnath Singh, the ministers
have recommended that mental illness should be left to the health
ministry as “mental illness is a disease, and not a disability”.

“The present government is of the view that mental illness is not a
disability and is a health issue, and therefore it should be out of
the ambit of the proposed law and the health ministry should be
dealing with it,” a source said. However, across the world mental
illness is considered as a disability, in fact the accepted term to
describe the set of ailments is “psycho-social disabilities”.

While there was no national policy on disabilities till the 1990s, the
Persons with Disabilities Act was passed only in 1995. It recognised
seven types of disabilities, including mental retardation and mental
illness. However, the 1995 Act failed to spell out the protection
needed for people with mental illness and the mentally retarded.

Significantly, aiming to protect people with disabilities against
discrimination, the proposed bill was drafted in 2013-2014. Among many
changes that the new draft bill proposes to make are an expansion of
the list of disabilities from seven to 19, and an increase in job
reservations for persons with disabilities from three per cent to five
per cent.

However, according to sources, the government is also considering
cutting short 19 disabilities from the proposed law and excluding or
clubbing conditions like thalassemia, sickle cell disease, helophilia,
multiple sclerosis. At a recent meeting, ministers have also proposed
to drop the Disability Commission from the new proposed disability
law, sources further added.

The talk about a possible dilution of the proposed law has got
activists quite concerned, and they are now planning to approach Prime
Minister Narendra Modi with their concerns. Activists believe these
changes in the draft will be a huge loss to the disability movement
and it will take the country back to the pre-1995 age. “The
legislation is supposed to be in line with India’s ratification of the
United Nations Convention of the Rights of Persons with Disabilities
that was adopted by the General Assembly in 2006. But if such changes
are made in the proposed bill, India’s disability movement will be at
a huge loss,” an activist said on condition of an


-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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[AI] Free Skype Training - Reading Books & Documents for Visually Impaired on a Computer

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Re: [AI] Problems in opening Demat account

[sanjay]

Of course, I also explained them that my preferred mode of transaction is 
online.  They are convinced to that extent.  I explained everything to

feedb...@angelbroking.com
I hope the problem will be solved soon.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Problems in opening Demat account



Hi!

When I wanted to have my Demat Account I didn’t have to face any
difficulties however they did suggested me not to take Online facility
and use a cheque for transaction purpose but I manage to explain them
that there is no security risk if they offer me Online Account, I am
having Demat Account with Tata Capital Securities.

Warm Regards,
Tilak.


On 1/29/16, sanjay  wrote:

In fact, I never opted for notary. it was purely their creation.
- Original Message -
From: "Amar Jain" 
To: "accessindia" 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Problems in opening Demat account



Hi Sanjay,

Technically speaking, you had two options: 1st was to request two
senior employees of the brokerage house to attest your thumb
impression and 2nd is to get it notarized, in which case brokerage
house can very well ask for the charges which they have incurred (try
and get an invoice for it as they are corporates and their notary
official should not have any problem in issuing an invoice). But if
you have opted for notary, the broker is not liable to pay any charges
incurred for the same.

Regards,
--
Amar Jain.
Website: www.amarjain.com


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[AI] talkback in android 4.1

[anjali Anand]

friends, please guide as to how to enable talkback in android 4.1?
in the setting/ accessibility/ the screen only displays the option of
text size, speak password, web accessibility, touch and hold delay
etc.
when the button for see an example is pressed, the screen reader
reads. but once i'm out of the screen, then it is no longer on.

hope someone knows the trick!
thanks


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Re: [AI] Accessibility of Finacle - Core Banking Solution

[Aravind R]

the material is available in this link.
http://www.vibewa.org/
if you have any trouble in viewing this or following the instructions
inside your bank then ask us.

On 2/1/16, Sudeshna Bhattacharya  wrote:
> then could you please send the complete tutorial (if any) at
> sudeshna.bhattachary...@gmail.com? I'll be grateful.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Sudeshna Bhattacharya
>
> On 1/31/16, Aravind R  wrote:
>> Reasonably accessible with jaws. Ask your doubts
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 30-Jan-2016, at 5:35 PM, Pavan Kumar
>>
>>> Bolar  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>
>>> Please let me know whether the core Banking solution Finnacle is
>>> accessible through Jaws.
>>>
>>> The views of list members using Finnacle is solicited.
>>>
>>> With Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Pavan
>>> M: 9886496908
>>>
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Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[George Abraham]

Braille is useful once you get to it. In a public space the challenge will be 
to get to it. I have nothing against Braille. I am simply saying that in a 
crowded Railway station Braille is not the best solution.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 01 February 2016 11:12
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

A perfectly rational stand, I concurr with Umesha.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
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सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Umesha S E
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:36 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

Friends,
Why are you arguing consistently for only one mode of access? I don’t
know who said Braille is bad. But, every mode of access has its own
merits and demerits and it equally applies to Braille. We need to
understand that Braille is not the panacea for all the accessibility
problems. I have seen here and many times some people argue
consistently for Braille without looking into its usability. It is
clear that Braille is very useful in locating seats, births, toilets,
emergency exits, reserved seats for disabled, etc. There is no second
word in it. No one can deny that. It is also useful in reading coach
number after getting into the coach. For example, if one has boarded a
coach by asking some lay person on the platform and he wants to
confirm after boarding, whether what that person told is correct or
not.
All this is good but it does not end the problem. I am not against
Braille, or south western railway, or Mysore division. What I meant to
say is that the issue is not yet over. One cannot identify the coach
number before boarding. If one has to travel safely, he has to stand
on the platform approximately at the position where his desired coach
will arrive. For this to happen seamlessly, the audio announcement
should be implemented to the polls on the platforms having display
boards for the coaches. Also the coaches should have audio
announcement system. Because, sometimes the coaches may not stand at
the proper positions, or there may not be the prior display of coach
array on the platform. Someone may oppose this on behalf of deaf
blind. But, on the same line, I can oppose Braille on behalf of those
who don’t know Braille. But I won’t do it as it would lead us nowhere.
What I oppose clearly is claiming a train, or any service for that
matter, as completely accessible just by putting some Braille labels.
For example: most of you know the accessible ATM movement led by
Indian bank energized by our own friend Prashanth. In our university
campus, there is a state bank of Mysore ATM which has some Braille
label on cash dispenser, slip dispenser, etc. it also has an earphone
jack. I was very happy on seeing that in the illusion that it an
accessible ATM. But, upon examination, it was found that it is not. It
does not have audio output but just an earphone socket which gives you
nothing. After this I enquired the bank official if there any chance
of implementing accessible ATM in that machine in coming days. They
told not at all in near future. If you claim this train as completely
accessible on the basis of Braille, one day SBM may also claim our
university ATM as completely accessible.
Conclusion: , we have to appreciate, encourage, support  all such
efforts towards making the things accessible whether it is audio,
Braille, etc. at the same time, we must be cautious on any wrong
claims of complete accessibility and make the authorities aware that
many things remain undone.
Thank you for reading my lengthy mail.

Umesha S E



On 1/30/16, Misbah  wrote:
> I do believe that still braille is one of the efective wayout of
> accessibility issues of blind persons despite massive tecnological
> inovations.
>
> On 1/30/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>> It is good having braille signages to identify the seats but it will
>> take time for the visually disabled persons to identify the coach
>> numbersand sometimes the train will start before the identification is
>> completed and we reach the coach. i recommend that the railway engage
>> volentairs to lead us to the desired coach.
>>
>> On 1/28/16, Giri Prasad  wrote:
>>> nevertheless many trains dont have the disabled coach. This also
>>> should be looked into.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28/01/2016, 

[AI] News of Interest: Caste ceiling on campuses

[avinash shahi]

I'd also add that the no data is available on the percentage of
disabled faculty teaching in 43 Indian Central universities. I hope
that in the next hearing of the Sambhavana vs UGC the Apex Court will
ask for the disabled faculty data from the government. Please keep
note of this news item.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1160201/jsp/frontpage/story_66893.jsp

Basant Kumar Mohanty



New Delhi, Jan. 31: Only seven out of every 100 hundred teachers in
colleges and universities across the country were from the Scheduled
Castes last year. Those from the Scheduled Tribes were even worse off,
numbering only 2 per cent.

The grim statistics - included in a government report released last
month -leap to relevance against the backdrop of the suicide of Rohit
Vemula, the research scholar in the University of Hyderabad.

Suggestions have been made that the young man may not have taken his
life had his concerns been addressed by teachers who empathise with
the sensitivities of students from disadvantaged sections.

The chances of Dalit teachers making committees that look into
disciplinary issues are remote because the numbers are stacked against
such a probability.

According to the report released last month, only 1.02 lakh - or 7.22
per cent - of the 14.1 lakh teachers in 716 universities and 38,056
colleges in the country were Dalits, while tribal communities
accounted for just 30,000 or 2.12 per cent.

The faculty figures fall far short of the national population of
Scheduled Castes (16.6 per cent) and Scheduled Tribes (8.6 per cent).

In Bengal, the percentage of SC/ST teachers, according to the All
India Survey on Higher Education Provisional Report for 2014-15, was
even less - 6.27 per cent Dalit and 0.93 per cent from the Scheduled
Tribes.

Referring to Rohith, Prof. Sudhakar Babu, convener of the university's
SC/ST Teachers' Forum, said a Dalit member on a panel that looked into
an alleged assault on the Hyderabad campus "would have demanded a
proper probe".

It was this sub-committee that had recommended that Rohit and four
others be punished, setting off a chain of events that culminated in
the tragedy on January 17.

The sub-committee had no SC/ST member but did co-opt a Dalit
professor, Prakash Babu, the dean of students' welfare. But Prakash
Babu, Sudhakar Babu said, did not protest the sub-committee's decision
as he was present in his official capacity, not as a Dalit
representative.

Several academics and activists echoed Sudhakar Babu, saying
universities, mostly staffed by upper-caste teachers, were more likely
to ignore the concerns of students from socially disadvantaged
segments.

Dalit rights activist Gurindar Azar said teachers from other
communities, who have seldom faced discrimination, "fail to feel the
problems of Dalit and tribal students, most of whom are
first-generation learners and are low on confidence".

Prof. Kancha Ilaiah, who writes on Dalit rights issues, said faculties
dominated by upper castes often ganged up against Dalit and tribal
students.

Rohith's fellowship money, Ilaiah said, was blocked for seven months
for no reason other than harassing him. The University of Hyderabad is
yet to release his dues of about Rs 1.75 lakh.

University sources cited red tape, saying Rohith had been getting a
junior research fellowship when he qualified for a CSIR fellowship in
the second year, which led to confusion over which scholarship money
he should get. The university wrote to higher education regulator UGC
and, in the process, the money got delayed, the sources claimed.

Ilaiah hinted that if it were a case involving an upper-caste scholar,
the whole system would have come forward to help.

Official sources cautioned against rushing to judgement on the basis
of the faculty figures. They pointed out that half of the nearly
39,000 institutions are privately managed and are thus out of the
quota system.

But government-run universities and colleges are legally bound to
reserve 15 per cent teacher posts at all levels for Dalits and 7.5 per
cent for Scheduled Tribes.

Delhi University executive council member Abha Dev Habib said that of
the 813 faculty members, only 63 (7.7 per cent) were Dalits and 24
(less than 3 per cent) were from tribal groups. "Our teacher
association has written to the HRD ministry and the UGC about
non-implementation of reservation in DU. But no action has been
taken," Habib said.

The question of poor representation of SC/STs in faculty has been
raised in Parliament several times. Every time, the government has
said posts have remained vacant because of non-availability of
suitable candidates in these categories.

But some academics said the word "suitable" was being used
subjectively and discriminately at the interview level to shut out
candidates from the disadvantaged sections, leaving the posts vacant.

Ilaiah cited his own example to point out how he too had suffered in
an upper-caste dominated system when he taught in Hyderabad University
in 1998. His 

Re: [AI] Accessibility of Finacle - Core Banking Solution

[Sudeshna Bhattacharya]

then could you please send the complete tutorial (if any) at
sudeshna.bhattachary...@gmail.com? I'll be grateful.

Thanks and regards,
Sudeshna Bhattacharya

On 1/31/16, Aravind R  wrote:
> Reasonably accessible with jaws. Ask your doubts
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 30-Jan-2016, at 5:35 PM, Pavan Kumar
>
>> Bolar  wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
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>> Please let me know whether the core Banking solution Finnacle is
>> accessible through Jaws.
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Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[Asudani, Rajesh]

A perfectly rational stand, I concurr with Umesha.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Umesha S E
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:36 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

Friends,
Why are you arguing consistently for only one mode of access? I don’t
know who said Braille is bad. But, every mode of access has its own
merits and demerits and it equally applies to Braille. We need to
understand that Braille is not the panacea for all the accessibility
problems. I have seen here and many times some people argue
consistently for Braille without looking into its usability. It is
clear that Braille is very useful in locating seats, births, toilets,
emergency exits, reserved seats for disabled, etc. There is no second
word in it. No one can deny that. It is also useful in reading coach
number after getting into the coach. For example, if one has boarded a
coach by asking some lay person on the platform and he wants to
confirm after boarding, whether what that person told is correct or
not.
All this is good but it does not end the problem. I am not against
Braille, or south western railway, or Mysore division. What I meant to
say is that the issue is not yet over. One cannot identify the coach
number before boarding. If one has to travel safely, he has to stand
on the platform approximately at the position where his desired coach
will arrive. For this to happen seamlessly, the audio announcement
should be implemented to the polls on the platforms having display
boards for the coaches. Also the coaches should have audio
announcement system. Because, sometimes the coaches may not stand at
the proper positions, or there may not be the prior display of coach
array on the platform. Someone may oppose this on behalf of deaf
blind. But, on the same line, I can oppose Braille on behalf of those
who don’t know Braille. But I won’t do it as it would lead us nowhere.
What I oppose clearly is claiming a train, or any service for that
matter, as completely accessible just by putting some Braille labels.
For example: most of you know the accessible ATM movement led by
Indian bank energized by our own friend Prashanth. In our university
campus, there is a state bank of Mysore ATM which has some Braille
label on cash dispenser, slip dispenser, etc. it also has an earphone
jack. I was very happy on seeing that in the illusion that it an
accessible ATM. But, upon examination, it was found that it is not. It
does not have audio output but just an earphone socket which gives you
nothing. After this I enquired the bank official if there any chance
of implementing accessible ATM in that machine in coming days. They
told not at all in near future. If you claim this train as completely
accessible on the basis of Braille, one day SBM may also claim our
university ATM as completely accessible.
Conclusion: , we have to appreciate, encourage, support  all such
efforts towards making the things accessible whether it is audio,
Braille, etc. at the same time, we must be cautious on any wrong
claims of complete accessibility and make the authorities aware that
many things remain undone.
Thank you for reading my lengthy mail.

Umesha S E



On 1/30/16, Misbah  wrote:
> I do believe that still braille is one of the efective wayout of
> accessibility issues of blind persons despite massive tecnological
> inovations.
>
> On 1/30/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>> It is good having braille signages to identify the seats but it will
>> take time for the visually disabled persons to identify the coach
>> numbersand sometimes the train will start before the identification is
>> completed and we reach the coach. i recommend that the railway engage
>> volentairs to lead us to the desired coach.
>>
>> On 1/28/16, Giri Prasad  wrote:
>>> nevertheless many trains dont have the disabled coach. This also
>>> should be looked into.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 28/01/2016, George Abraham  wrote:
 The train services should have audio announcements like in the Delhi
 Metro,
 Rajdhani Express and the Shatabdi Express. Further the Railway
 authorities/staff should have a trained cadre that supports or
 facilitates
 persons with disability, senior citizens and others who need help.
 Braille
 is a good initiative but the solution is not complete.  In my
 experience,
 seasoned blind travellers do not need any signage inside trains. Given
 that

[AI] Kamlesh Kumar Pandey appointed Chief Commissioner for Persons with Disabilities

[avinash shahi]

http://netindian.in/news/2016/01/29/0003/kamlesh-kumar-pandey-appointed-chief-commissioner-persons-disabilities

-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[Sonu Golkar]

True sir.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
George Abraham
Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 11:59 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

Braille is useful once you get to it. In a public space the challenge will be 
to get to it. I have nothing against Braille. I am simply saying that in a 
crowded Railway station Braille is not the best solution.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 01 February 2016 11:12
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

A perfectly rational stand, I concurr with Umesha.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Umesha S E
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:36 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

Friends,
Why are you arguing consistently for only one mode of access? I don’t
know who said Braille is bad. But, every mode of access has its own
merits and demerits and it equally applies to Braille. We need to
understand that Braille is not the panacea for all the accessibility
problems. I have seen here and many times some people argue
consistently for Braille without looking into its usability. It is
clear that Braille is very useful in locating seats, births, toilets,
emergency exits, reserved seats for disabled, etc. There is no second
word in it. No one can deny that. It is also useful in reading coach
number after getting into the coach. For example, if one has boarded a
coach by asking some lay person on the platform and he wants to
confirm after boarding, whether what that person told is correct or
not.
All this is good but it does not end the problem. I am not against
Braille, or south western railway, or Mysore division. What I meant to
say is that the issue is not yet over. One cannot identify the coach
number before boarding. If one has to travel safely, he has to stand
on the platform approximately at the position where his desired coach
will arrive. For this to happen seamlessly, the audio announcement
should be implemented to the polls on the platforms having display
boards for the coaches. Also the coaches should have audio
announcement system. Because, sometimes the coaches may not stand at
the proper positions, or there may not be the prior display of coach
array on the platform. Someone may oppose this on behalf of deaf
blind. But, on the same line, I can oppose Braille on behalf of those
who don’t know Braille. But I won’t do it as it would lead us nowhere.
What I oppose clearly is claiming a train, or any service for that
matter, as completely accessible just by putting some Braille labels.
For example: most of you know the accessible ATM movement led by
Indian bank energized by our own friend Prashanth. In our university
campus, there is a state bank of Mysore ATM which has some Braille
label on cash dispenser, slip dispenser, etc. it also has an earphone
jack. I was very happy on seeing that in the illusion that it an
accessible ATM. But, upon examination, it was found that it is not. It
does not have audio output but just an earphone socket which gives you
nothing. After this I enquired the bank official if there any chance
of implementing accessible ATM in that machine in coming days. They
told not at all in near future. If you claim this train as completely
accessible on the basis of Braille, one day SBM may also claim our
university ATM as completely accessible.
Conclusion: , we have to appreciate, encourage, support  all such
efforts towards making the things accessible whether it is audio,
Braille, etc. at the same time, we must be cautious on any wrong
claims of complete accessibility and make the authorities aware that
many things remain undone.
Thank you for reading my lengthy mail.

Umesha S E



On 1/30/16, Misbah  wrote:
> I do believe that still braille is one of the efective wayout of
> accessibility issues of blind persons despite massive tecnological
> inovations.
>
> On 1/30/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>> It is good having braille signages to identify the seats but it will
>> take time for the visually disabled persons to identify the coach
>> numbersand sometimes the train 

[AI] Centre Seeks Legal Base For Use of Term 'Divyang'

[avinash shahi]

The Ministry has written to the state governments and saught their suggestions.
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/Centre-Seeks-Legal-Base-For-Use-of-Term-Divyang/2016/01/29/article3251308.ece

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Re: [AI] Centre Seeks Legal Base For Use of Term 'Divyang'

[George Abraham]

Should they be consulting State Govts or be consulting the people with
disability?

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Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma

[Vyas Gajendra]

hi umesh,
how do you select window calculator, f5 or f6 ? please provide keys for that 
.

gajendra vyas
- Original Message - 
From: "Umesha S E" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma



Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam.
In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can
use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator,
select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator
displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal
number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6).

“Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to 
letters

in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?”
I could not understand. Can you elaborate?

I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you
can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare
occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem,
we can find proper solution.

“While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.”
I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to
convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific
situation and explain it, we can find alternatives.

Umesha



On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in 
your
case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal 
letters
and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. 
I'm

asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why
should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged?
  - Original Message -
  From: Him Prasad Gautam
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma


  hi,
  Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically
  assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the
  basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are
  two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as
  two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight.
  In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice,
  the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number
  are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
  There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than
  nine is expressed  by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10!
   In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers.
  they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not
  considered as alphabets of English but  the numeric expression larger
  than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and
  so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by
  the digital symbol 0 to f i.e.  sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen
  as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!!
  In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4
  5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0
  i.e. eight is written as 1 0!
  Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only
  two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three
  as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0!
  Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system!
  It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal
  system. 1 0 0 represents as 256.
  Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the
  capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it
  produced the small letter f which its character code. There are
  formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or
  binary figures and vice versa.
   For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or
  numerical science related literature's.

  On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
  > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal
  > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the 
decimal

  > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?
The
  > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the
code is
  > to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme
also,
  > it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result 
in

  > decimal.
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Umesha S E
  >   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  > concerningthe disabled.
  >   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma
  >
  >
  >   Hi,
  >   66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal 

Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma

[Vikas Kapoor]

Dear Umesha,

On some occasions, we need to write some characters which can't be written by 
using the regular keyboard (or I don't know how to write them), and to be able 
to put them at the appropriate places,, by typing the decimal numbers followed 
by the command, the code automatically converts that to the correct letters. 
For example, you type the code in the word application and press Alt+X and the 
code will then convert it to the letter or symbol whatever the case. In the 
next line I'm giving some examples of those characters, which I generated by 
applying the above mentioned command in the word application.

• „ ‟ ‡ †․ ≶ ≹ 

‴ ‶ ‵ ′ ″

Thanks.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Umesha S E 
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe 
disabled. 
  Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 6:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma


  Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam.
  In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can
  use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator,
  select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator
  displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal
  number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6).

  “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to letters
  in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?”
  I could not understand. Can you elaborate?

  I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you
  can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare
  occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem,
  we can find proper solution.

  “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.”
  I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to
  convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific
  situation and explain it, we can find alternatives.

  Umesha



  On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
  > Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your
  > case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters
  > and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. I'm
  > asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why
  > should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged?
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Him Prasad Gautam
  >   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  > concerningthe disabled.
  >   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma
  >
  >
  >   hi,
  >   Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically
  >   assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the
  >   basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are
  >   two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as
  >   two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight.
  >   In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice,
  >   the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number
  >   are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
  >   There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than
  >   nine is expressed  by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10!
  >In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers.
  >   they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not
  >   considered as alphabets of English but  the numeric expression larger
  >   than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and
  >   so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by
  >   the digital symbol 0 to f i.e.  sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen
  >   as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!!
  >   In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4
  >   5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0
  >   i.e. eight is written as 1 0!
  >   Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only
  >   two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three
  >   as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0!
  >   Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system!
  >   It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal
  >   system. 1 0 0 represents as 256.
  >   Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the
  >   capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it
  >   produced the small letter f which its character code. There are
  >   formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or
  >   binary figures and vice versa.
  >For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or
  >   numerical science related literature's.
  >
  >   On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
  >   > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and 

[AI] Woman Passenger Alleges Air India Made Her 'Crawl', Airline Denies Allegation

[Hozefa Tambawala]

A physically challenged woman flyer has alleged she had to "crawl" to
the passenger coach after deboarding an Air India plane as the carrier
failed to arrange a wheel chair for her due to "security" reasons, a
charge denied by the airline.

The government-run airline claimed a wheel chair was provided to the
passenger at aircraft doorstep itself.

The incident took place yesterday when Anita Ghai, a DelhiUniversity
associate professor, landed at the IndiraGandhiInternationalAirport
here by Alliance Air (Air India's regional arm) from Dehradun and
requested for a wheel chair.

"I boarded this flight with four of my colleagues. Despite my repeated
request, the (air) hostess did not cognize my requirement for a wheel
chair after reaching. The flight reached at 7.30 pm. I waited
patiently with one of my friends," she said.

"At 8.15 pm, we realise that there was no chance of (getting) a wheel
chair. The (passenger) coach came at 8.30 pm after repeated requests
from the flight commander. Since security reasons are critical they
made me crawl to go to the coach," she alleged.

"We strongly deny the statement...We at Air India give utmost
importance to passenger's safety and comfort," an Air India statement
said.

The flight which operated on ATR aircraft landed in Delhi from
Dehradun. Since it was parked at a distant bay it took some time to
bring the wheel chair, the airline said.

"Since passengers were getting down from the aircraft, our support
staff actively helped the passenger to come out of the plane and the
wheelchair was provided at the doorstep," Air India said.

"We deeply regret any inconvenience caused to the passenger," it added.

Source:
http://www.rediff.com/news/report/woman-passenger-alleges-air-india-made-her-crawl-airline-denies-allegation/20160131.htm?pos=2=NL20160201=8J5KmEiutWIqU16XLmQXBhQxXgwb/3jGXA4J4tpPQa8==0=0

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Re: [AI] Centre Seeks Legal Base For Use of Term 'Divyang'

[avinash shahi]

The report says that the stakeholders will be consulted.

On 2/1/16, George Abraham  wrote:
> Should they be consulting State Govts or be consulting the people with
> disability?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: 01 February 2016 10:05
> To: accessindia
> Subject: [AI] Centre Seeks Legal Base For Use of Term 'Divyang'
>
> The Ministry has written to the state governments and saught their
> suggestions.
> http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/Centre-Seeks-Legal-Base-For-Use-of-T
> erm-Divyang/2016/01/29/article3251308.ece
>
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> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
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Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma

[Him Prasad Gautam]

hi,
Every keyboard comes with num pad facility. Some are extended and some
are compact In compact, you have to enable them via function keys.
You can directly use hexadecimal to decimal or vice versa conversion formula.



On 2/1/16, Umesha S E  wrote:
> Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam.
> In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can
> use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator,
> select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator
> displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal
> number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6).
>
> “Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to
> letters
> in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?”
> I could not understand. Can you elaborate?
>
> I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you
> can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare
> occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem,
> we can find proper solution.
>
> “While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.”
> I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to
> convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific
> situation and explain it, we can find alternatives.
>
> Umesha
>
>
>
> On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>> Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your
>> case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters
>> and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys.
>> I'm
>> asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why
>> should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged?
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Him Prasad Gautam
>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled.
>>   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma
>>
>>
>>   hi,
>>   Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically
>>   assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the
>>   basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are
>>   two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as
>>   two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight.
>>   In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice,
>>   the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number
>>   are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
>>   There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than
>>   nine is expressed  by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10!
>>In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers.
>>   they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not
>>   considered as alphabets of English but  the numeric expression larger
>>   than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and
>>   so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by
>>   the digital symbol 0 to f i.e.  sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen
>>   as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!!
>>   In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4
>>   5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0
>>   i.e. eight is written as 1 0!
>>   Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only
>>   two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three
>>   as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0!
>>   Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system!
>>   It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal
>>   system. 1 0 0 represents as 256.
>>   Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the
>>   capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it
>>   produced the small letter f which its character code. There are
>>   formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or
>>   binary figures and vice versa.
>>For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or
>>   numerical science related literature's.
>>
>>   On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>>   > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal
>>   > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the
>> decimal
>>   > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?
>> The
>>   > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the
>> code is
>>   > to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme
>> also,
>>   > it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result
>> in
>>   > decimal.
>>   >   - Original Message -
>>   >   From: Umesha S E
>>   >   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>   > concerningthe disabled.
>>   >   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 

[AI] Honouring heroes behind Radio Udaan's sound success

[avinash shahi]

Well done guys, I immensely enjoyed the convention. I also met with
the students and professionals coming from different parts of Punjab.
They all are hooked on WhatsAp! Huge campus and an auspicious
auditorium of a blind school was a pleasant surprise. Delicious food
and festive atmosphere all were up to the mark. Continue rocking the
web-waves unabated.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ludhiana/Honouring-heroes-behind-Radio-Udaans-sound-success/articleshow/50790998.cms



Ludhiana: It was a day to honour volunteers who put their hearts and
souls into Radio Udaan, an online radio station which caters to
visually impaired persons across the country and some parts of the
world.

The station began its service in 2014 with as many as 30 radio jockeys
(RJs) in the age group of 16 to 60 years. Today, the station has more
than 20,000 listeners.

The station conducted its second convention on Saturday at Braille
Bhawan in Jamalpur, where volunteers from Lucknow, Mumbai, Hyderabad,
Chandigarh and many other cities came calling.

As many as 20 visually impaired RJs were present who shared their
problems with guest speakers.

Ramesh Kumar Sareen gave usual insights on PWD policies that are
useful for visually-impaired persons, while Madhu Singhal shared the
challenges being faced by visually-impaired women on education,
professional and marriage fronts.

Speakers also gave presentations on motivation and Persons with
Disabilities Act.

The event also saw with a host of cultural items presented by the
Udaan team members.

A perfect act

Team members presented a play on "visually challenged and matrimonial".

The play was scripted, narrated and presented by a team of
visually-impaired persons belonging to various cities of Delhi,
Lucknow, Pathankot and Ludhiana. They had practised the play over the
phone and social networking sites without actually meeting each other
in person.

Feeling happy about the successful execution of the play, its director
Pathankot-based RJ Danish Mahajan shared, "The play was plotted
keeping in mind the real-life difficulties faced by visually-impaired
persons. The story revolves around two blind girls who took different
decisions on their marriages. A girl who opted for a visually-impaired
person had a satisfactory married life, but the other had to make many
compromises for selecting a visually abled person. The consequences
proved fatal for the latter, who eventually ended her life, due to
dissatisfaction and harassment in her life."Recommended By Colombia


Jyoti from Ludhiana, one of the members in the play, said, "The team
was selected based on the voice suitability for the roles on Skype,
followed by a two-month practice over calls."


Sangeeta, 30, from Lucknow, said, "I was a regular listener of Udaan
and attended the show few times. Though I had never been to the city,
but it was exciting to meet members for the first time. And I will
visit the city again."


Danish, who selected the team, said, "The best part was that we
practised the play once, before the actual execution."



Naresh and Gitesh from Delhi were equally excited to perform in the
play. They added, "The two months was indeed the best time when we
practised and bonded so well."

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Re: [AI] Retinal Pigmentosa and macular degeneration are same?

[Aakash Bansal]

Hi Ankish,

No, RP and MD are two different diseases.

In RP, a person will lost first night then peripheral and after it center
vision.
whereas in MD, a person will lost night then center and finally the
peripheral.

and a person may suffer from both RP and MD simultaneously, in that you
will observe mixed symptoms.

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Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma

[Umesha S E]

Nice explanation by Him Prasad Gautam.
In addition, if you want to convert between these 2 systems, you can
use windows calculator. Type the decimal number into calculator,
select the hex radio button (shortcut key is F5). The calculator
displays the converted number. To convert back, type hexadecimal
number when in hex mode and choose decimal radio button (shortcut f6).

“Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal characters to letters
in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?”
I could not understand. Can you elaborate?

I don’t know any solution for other programs like notepad. Perhaps you
can convert it in word and copy it into notepad as there will be rare
occasions where you need such things. If you tell your exact problem,
we can find proper solution.

“While JAWS, by default gives the result in decimal.”
I don’t use jaws method of creating characters and don’t know how to
convert it to hexadecimal. If you are facing problem in any specific
situation and explain it, we can find alternatives.

Umesha



On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your
> case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters
> and it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. I'm
> asking this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why
> should the people without this pad be left at disadvantaged?
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Him Prasad Gautam
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.
>   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma
>
>
>   hi,
>   Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically
>   assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the
>   basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are
>   two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as
>   two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight.
>   In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice,
>   the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number
>   are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
>   There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than
>   nine is expressed  by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10!
>In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers.
>   they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not
>   considered as alphabets of English but  the numeric expression larger
>   than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and
>   so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by
>   the digital symbol 0 to f i.e.  sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen
>   as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!!
>   In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4
>   5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0
>   i.e. eight is written as 1 0!
>   Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only
>   two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three
>   as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0!
>   Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system!
>   It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal
>   system. 1 0 0 represents as 256.
>   Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the
>   capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it
>   produced the small letter f which its character code. There are
>   formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or
>   binary figures and vice versa.
>For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or
>   numerical science related literature's.
>
>   On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>   > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal
>   > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal
>   > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop?
> The
>   > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the
> code is
>   > to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme
> also,
>   > it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in
>   > decimal.
>   >   - Original Message -
>   >   From: Umesha S E
>   >   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>   > concerningthe disabled.
>   >   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma
>   >
>   >
>   >   Hi,
>   >   66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code.
>   >   use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented
> in
>   >   hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws,
> move
>   >   the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you
>   >   

Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma

[Vyas Gajendra]

ih gautamaji ,
In hexadecimal system , how 255 is ff, is it 15+15 or15*15 ?
gajendra vyas
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From: "Him Prasad Gautam" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerningthe disabled." 

Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma



hi,
Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically
assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the
basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are
two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as
two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight.
In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice,
the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number
are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than
nine is expressed  by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10!
In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers.
they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not
considered as alphabets of English but  the numeric expression larger
than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and
so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by
the digital symbol 0 to f i.e.  sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen
as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!!
In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4
5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0
i.e. eight is written as 1 0!
Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only
two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three
as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0!
Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system!
It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal
system. 1 0 0 represents as 256.
Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the
capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it
produced the small letter f which its character code. There are
formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or
binary figures and vice versa.
For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or
numerical science related literature's.

On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:

Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal
representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal
characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? The
Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the code 
is
to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme 
also,

it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in
decimal.
  - Original Message -
  From: Umesha S E
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerningthe disabled.
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma


  Hi,
  66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code.
  use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented in
  hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws, move
  the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you
  decimal or hexodecimal value based on your jaws configuration. to
  change it, go to configuration manager, go to graphics and symbols,
  check the "speak the character codes in hex" checkbox.

  Umesha

  On 1/30/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
  > Folks,
  > A very strange dilemma regarding typing the Unicode characters I 
found:
  > While pressing alt followed by numbers on the NumPad gives one 
result,

and
  > pressing the numbers on the regular number row followed by alt+X in 
the

word
  > application gives another result. For example, while pressing  Alt+66 
on

the
  > NumPad gives the Unicode character result as capital B, and on the
other
  > hand pressing 66 followed by Alt+X gives the result as lower f. So, 
my

  > dilemma is which one to follow? In other words, which one is the
correct
  > representation of the Unicode character?
  > Vikas Kapoor,
  > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
  > Skype Id: dl_vikas
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Re: [AI] pass is issued only for 5 years only

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

Yeah, sure, if the disability is of permanent nature, the pass must be
issued for the whole term.

On 2/1/16, SANTOSH GANDIGUDE  wrote:
> The same problem with me. IR is not issuing pass to 75% even both eyed Blind
> persons who can not see less than 3-4 feet.this is injustice with us.
> 
> On Sun, 31/1/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>
>  Subject: [AI] pass is issued only for 5 years only
>  To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled." 
>  Date: Sunday, 31 January, 2016, 3:01 PM
>
>  indian railways is issueing pass only
>  for 5 years only again to renew
>  it we should go to d.r.m. office which will creat troubles
>  for us
>
>  On 1/31/16, sazid shaik 
>  wrote:
>  > in my view railway will issue pass for only completly
>  blind only.  As
>  > they do not know technically.  for example I am
>  suffering from RP 6
>  > years back i can identify things at that time i faced
>  lot of problems
>  > for getting concession certificate.
>  >
>  > regard,
>  > sazid
>  >
>  > On 1/31/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI 
>  wrote:
>  >> dear list members resently i had visited d.r.m.
>  office at guntakallu
>  >> in andhrapradesh to get permanent railway pass for
>  the visually
>  >> disabled persons. there they issued passes only for
>  the persons who
>  >> are 100 percent blind. when i asked the reason why
>  they are not
>  >> issueing pass for people with low vision the answer
>  they gave me was
>  >> that if some one donates eyes then the visually
>  disabled persons would
>  >> recover sight. i felt that the answer was
>  rediculous. friends if
>  >> anyone have the set of guidelines for issueing
>  railway pass please
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Re: [AI] Updated section 80u incometax act

[Asudani, Rajesh]

a valid point.
Why not the updation in s80 in incometax site?


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Umesha S E
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:39 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Updated section 80u incometax act

why it has not been included in IT act web site?

Umesha

On 1/30/16, Anjaneyulu Saddula  wrote:
>
> sir if you need i will give you one is from our bank issued circular and
> another is income tax bill 2015-2016
> anjaneyulu
>
> With Regards
> Coming together is beginning;
> Keeping together is progress;
> working together is a success;
> ANJANEYULU
> PROB OFFICER,
> CANARA BANK,
> KHAMMAM MAIN,
> WARANGAL CIRCLE,
> TELENGANA STATE
> MOB:
>  9866871750
>
>
> 
> From: AccessIndia [accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] on behalf of
> Manoj [man.sha2...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 1:36 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Updated section 80u incometax act
>
> sir, do you have the official copy of circular issued be dopt?
>
> On 1/30/2016 12:19 PM, Anjaneyulu Saddula wrote:
>> hi rajesh sir
>> actually our 80U is present for totally blind RS 125000
>> and partially blind RS 75000 only
>> in the month of june 2015  it has increased.
>>
>> if require  I will give you my bank has issued internal circular same  and
>> I availed.
>>
>>
>> With Regards
>> Coming together is beginning;
>> Keeping together is progress;
>> working together is a success;
>> ANJANEYULU
>> PROB OFFICER,
>> CANARA BANK,
>> KHAMMAM MAIN,
>> WARANGAL CIRCLE,
>> TELENGANA STATE
>> MOB:
>>   9866871750
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: AccessIndia [accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] on behalf of
>> Asudani, Rajesh [rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in]
>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 1:10 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: [AI] Updated section 80u incometax act
>>
>> Friends
>>
>> Would you please supply me with
>> Updated section 80U saying that limit for totally disabled is Rs. 1,25,000
>> and for partially Rs. 75,000
>>
>>
>> One on income tax site is old one saying limit is one lakh only.
>>
>>
>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
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Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[gufran ahmed]

i agree with madam Umesha infact it is not easy to touch the branille
display board on crouded railway stations, or stations whwre the
trains have short stoppage time.

On 1/31/16, li...@srinivasu.org  wrote:
> Umesha,
> Braille will be useful in locating toilets, coaches etc., only when other
> issues are fixed. For instance cleanliness, gap between coach and platform,
> right place for seats where it avoids we touch fellow passengers etc., else
> investment on this will go waste. After all, it is public money and should
> not be wasted.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>
>> On 31-Jan-2016, at 08:35, Umesha S E  wrote:
>>
>> Friends,
>> Why are you arguing consistently for only one mode of access? I don’t
>> know who said Braille is bad. But, every mode of access has its own
>> merits and demerits and it equally applies to Braille. We need to
>> understand that Braille is not the panacea for all the accessibility
>> problems. I have seen here and many times some people argue
>> consistently for Braille without looking into its usability. It is
>> clear that Braille is very useful in locating seats, births, toilets,
>> emergency exits, reserved seats for disabled, etc. There is no second
>> word in it. No one can deny that. It is also useful in reading coach
>> number after getting into the coach. For example, if one has boarded a
>> coach by asking some lay person on the platform and he wants to
>> confirm after boarding, whether what that person told is correct or
>> not.
>> All this is good but it does not end the problem. I am not against
>> Braille, or south western railway, or Mysore division. What I meant to
>> say is that the issue is not yet over. One cannot identify the coach
>> number before boarding. If one has to travel safely, he has to stand
>> on the platform approximately at the position where his desired coach
>> will arrive. For this to happen seamlessly, the audio announcement
>> should be implemented to the polls on the platforms having display
>> boards for the coaches. Also the coaches should have audio
>> announcement system. Because, sometimes the coaches may not stand at
>> the proper positions, or there may not be the prior display of coach
>> array on the platform. Someone may oppose this on behalf of deaf
>> blind. But, on the same line, I can oppose Braille on behalf of those
>> who don’t know Braille. But I won’t do it as it would lead us nowhere.
>> What I oppose clearly is claiming a train, or any service for that
>> matter, as completely accessible just by putting some Braille labels.
>> For example: most of you know the accessible ATM movement led by
>> Indian bank energized by our own friend Prashanth. In our university
>> campus, there is a state bank of Mysore ATM which has some Braille
>> label on cash dispenser, slip dispenser, etc. it also has an earphone
>> jack. I was very happy on seeing that in the illusion that it an
>> accessible ATM. But, upon examination, it was found that it is not. It
>> does not have audio output but just an earphone socket which gives you
>> nothing. After this I enquired the bank official if there any chance
>> of implementing accessible ATM in that machine in coming days. They
>> told not at all in near future. If you claim this train as completely
>> accessible on the basis of Braille, one day SBM may also claim our
>> university ATM as completely accessible.
>> Conclusion: , we have to appreciate, encourage, support  all such
>> efforts towards making the things accessible whether it is audio,
>> Braille, etc. at the same time, we must be cautious on any wrong
>> claims of complete accessibility and make the authorities aware that
>> many things remain undone.
>> Thank you for reading my lengthy mail.
>>
>> Umesha S E
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 1/30/16, Misbah  wrote:
>>> I do believe that still braille is one of the efective wayout of
>>> accessibility issues of blind persons despite massive tecnological
>>> inovations.
>>>
 On 1/30/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
 It is good having braille signages to identify the seats but it will
 take time for the visually disabled persons to identify the coach
 numbersand sometimes the train will start before the identification is
 completed and we reach the coach. i recommend that the railway engage
 volentairs to lead us to the desired coach.

> On 1/28/16, Giri Prasad  wrote:
> nevertheless many trains dont have the disabled coach. This also
> should be looked into.
>
>
>> On 28/01/2016, George Abraham  wrote:
>> The train services should have audio announcements like in the Delhi
>> Metro,
>> Rajdhani Express and the Shatabdi Express. Further the Railway
>> authorities/staff should have a trained cadre that supports or
>> facilitates
>> 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[Vedprakash Sharma]

We are criticising the system but are not giving alternate solutions.
If Braille is not desirable to locate births, compartments etc, what is the 
better solution?

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
li...@srinivasu.org
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:28 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
Mysuru, Varanasi

Manish, in general, I agree. But...

Would you be comfortable touching seats in a train compartment. How would you 
know if there is no one seated?
Secondly, it is usual that cleanliness in our railway stations is poor. Would 
you be comfortable touching a dirty wall?

It's also true that there would be baggage or other goods anywhere, what's the 
guarantee that you don't bump into them?

Installing Braille signages involves huge investment. Unless Railways ensure 
practical usage, the investment go waste. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 30-Jan-2016, at 08:02, Manish Agrawal  wrote:
> 
> I agree. Braille signage in public places is good.
> Why do people believe it is a bad idea? And what is a better alternative?
> 
> Regards,
> Manish
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of sanjay
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:04 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the 
> disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs 
> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
> 
> Blind organisations can think only from their perspective.  either 
> government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole 
> cannot have such a narrow perspective.  Whether you like it or not, 
> for deaf-blind persons braille is the best option.  Those who think 
> having braille symbols in public places is not a solution should do 
> their homework again.  Any disability organisation which might have 
> advocated braille in public places have done so, considering the needs 
> of all disability categories.  Let there be braille and audio.  We 
> soil our hands while reading braille symbols not because of braille but 
> because of uncivilised behaviour of our people.
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerningthe disabled." 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM
> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
> Mysuru,Varanasi
> 
> 
>> I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille 
>> has to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what 
>> he/she prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option.
>> 
>> Warm Regards,
>> Tilak.
>> 
>>> On 1/27/16, George Abraham  wrote:
>>> We all know who the Govt consults!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
>>> Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
>>> Mysuru, Varanasi
>>> 
>>> I had the pleasure of telling the railway Board Chairman that 
>>> Braille was a bad idea in compartments and on the train when I met 
>>> him at the NCDEPD meeting in December in Delhi. He turned around and 
>>> told me that it had been recommended by one of our groups and it had 
>>> come as a suggestion from our sector and that they would not have 
>>> done it without consulting  with the Visually Impaired.
>>> So which Delhi based organisation wants to claim the credit for this 
>>> accessibility stunt?
>>> Let someone have the guts to own up to this.
>>> Kanchan
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>>> Behalf Of George Abraham
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:25 PM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
>>> Mysuru, Varanasi
>>> 
>>> Brailee is very in books and on paper. In public spaces Braille is a 
>>> very bad idea.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>>> Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org
>>> Sent: 27 January 2016 19:22
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
>>> Mysuru, Varanasi
>>> 
>>> With due respect, I think this is 

Re: [AI] Accessibility of Finacle - Core Banking Solution

[Aravind R]

Reasonably accessible with jaws. Ask your doubts

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30-Jan-2016, at 5:35 PM, Pavan Kumar

> Bolar  wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> 

> Please let me know whether the core Banking solution Finnacle is
> accessible through Jaws.
> 
> The views of list members using Finnacle is solicited.
> 
> With Regards,
> 
> 
> Pavan
> M: 9886496908
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[AI] Retinal Pigmentosa and macular degeneration are same?

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[AI] regarding news reader app

[Vikas Gupta]

hai friend i want to know that is there any app to read news on my
anderoid phone which is acessable with talk back.

please reply as soon as posible. your help  is essential
-- 
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Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[Nirmal Verma]

I have seen the tenders of indian railways and in two years time almost all
the trains will have braille lables.

Nirmal
On Jan 28, 2016 6:14 PM, "Giri Prasad"  wrote:

> nevertheless many trains dont have the disabled coach. This also
> should be looked into.
>
>
> On 28/01/2016, George Abraham  wrote:
> > The train services should have audio announcements like in the Delhi
> Metro,
> > Rajdhani Express and the Shatabdi Express. Further the Railway
> > authorities/staff should have a trained cadre that supports or
> facilitates
> > persons with disability, senior citizens and others who need help.
> Braille
> > is a good initiative but the solution is not complete.  In my experience,
> > seasoned blind travellers do not need any signage inside trains. Given
> that
> > the railway coaches are standard, locating the wash room, berths etc
> comes
> > with orientation from frequent travel.  A question for the group, how
> many
> > blind people in our country and how many of them read Braille? Ofcourse
> > technological solutions like apps is good but will serve a very small
> > population.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> > Of Kotian, H P
> > Sent: 28 January 2016 11:51
> > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> > the disabled.
> > Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru,
> > Varanasi
> >
> > Hi
> > I do agree. Let us appreciate the steps taken and work with the
> authorities
> > to make accessibility more better. I find now there is barrier coming
> from
> > our side and we want to oppose every initiative. Accessibility done in
> the
> > coach is a one time measure make use of it or leave it no big deal about
> > it. I do recall, in the same post, there was mention of navigational maps
> > were made on Mysore station. Therefore, Braille is not the only solution
> > thought about. Apps based solution works on a totally different plane,
> even
> > if it is done, our brilliant armchair activists will come out saying we
> are
> > a poor country and most cannot own a mobile phone.
> >
> > I think we deserve stale mind attitude of the previous government, no
> work,
> > no complaints.
> >
> > Harish Kotian
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
> > Of Zoher
> > Sent: 28 January 2016 11:08
> > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
> > the disabled.
> > Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru,
> > Varanasi
> >
> > Hello friends,
> >
> > I think none of us should comment on the efforts taken by the govt
> without
> > experiencing the same. We have all the rights to criticize or appreciate
> > the train if we have firsthand experience of travelling inn that.
> >
> > We should also understand 1 fact that to please all the section of the
> > society is just not possible for any govt.
> >
> > The positive thing I see is that at least and at last govt bodies has
> > started to understand and recognize the importance of disabled sections
> of
> > the society even though they are not a large and united vote bank.
> >
> > If we confront with govt on every step they take, then I think it may
> > hamper entire process.
> >
> > So rather confronting with the authorities we should follow the path of
> > consensus.
> >
> > I think we should take this as a first step and not the end of process.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [AI] Updated section 80u incometax act

[Dr. G. Janardhana Naidu]

Hello Sir,
Please download the file from the following dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uloxdcaybn4dipi/Raising%20the%20limit%20of%20deduction%20under%20Section%2080U%20for%20persons%20with%20disability%20and%20severe%20disability.docx?dl=0
Thanks and regards,
On 1/31/16, Umesha S E  wrote:
> why it has not been included in IT act web site?
>
> Umesha
>
> On 1/30/16, Anjaneyulu Saddula  wrote:
>>
>> sir if you need i will give you one is from our bank issued circular and
>> another is income tax bill 2015-2016
>> anjaneyulu
>>
>> With Regards
>> Coming together is beginning;
>> Keeping together is progress;
>> working together is a success;
>> ANJANEYULU
>> PROB OFFICER,
>> CANARA BANK,
>> KHAMMAM MAIN,
>> WARANGAL CIRCLE,
>> TELENGANA STATE
>> MOB:
>>  9866871750
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: AccessIndia [accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] on behalf of
>> Manoj [man.sha2...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 1:36 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Updated section 80u incometax act
>>
>> sir, do you have the official copy of circular issued be dopt?
>>
>> On 1/30/2016 12:19 PM, Anjaneyulu Saddula wrote:
>>> hi rajesh sir
>>> actually our 80U is present for totally blind RS 125000
>>> and partially blind RS 75000 only
>>> in the month of june 2015  it has increased.
>>>
>>> if require  I will give you my bank has issued internal circular same
>>> and
>>> I availed.
>>>
>>>
>>> With Regards
>>> Coming together is beginning;
>>> Keeping together is progress;
>>> working together is a success;
>>> ANJANEYULU
>>> PROB OFFICER,
>>> CANARA BANK,
>>> KHAMMAM MAIN,
>>> WARANGAL CIRCLE,
>>> TELENGANA STATE
>>> MOB:
>>>   9866871750
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: AccessIndia [accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] on behalf of
>>> Asudani, Rajesh [rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in]
>>> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 1:10 PM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: [AI] Updated section 80u incometax act
>>>
>>> Friends
>>>
>>> Would you please supply me with
>>> Updated section 80U saying that limit for totally disabled is Rs.
>>> 1,25,000
>>> and for partially Rs. 75,000
>>>
>>>
>>> One on income tax site is old one saying limit is one lakh only.
>>>
>>>
>>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
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Re: [AI] Indian railways is not issueing a permanent pass for the blind at the d.r.m. officewith lame excuse:

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

This is the rule of Railways that they issue concession certificate to
100% blind only. Which indeed discriminatory, there is no intelligible
differentia between the two. We should fight for it also.

On 1/31/16, sazid shaik  wrote:
> in my view railway will issue pass for only completly blind only.  As
> they do not know technically.  for example I am suffering from RP 6
> years back i can identify things at that time i faced lot of problems
> for getting concession certificate.
>
> regard,
> sazid
>
> On 1/31/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>> dear list members resently i had visited d.r.m. office at guntakallu
>> in andhrapradesh to get permanent railway pass for the visually
>> disabled persons. there they issued passes only for the persons who
>> are 100 percent blind. when i asked the reason why they are not
>> issueing pass for people with low vision the answer they gave me was
>> that if some one donates eyes then the visually disabled persons would
>> recover sight. i felt that the answer was rediculous. friends if
>> anyone have the set of guidelines for issueing railway pass please
>> share with me. with regards.
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] regarding news reader app

[Ishwar Verma]

sir! you can try falowing app which is available in playstore like
dainik bhasker, navbharat times nbt, times of india toi, and nrfb for
visually impaired. these are very much accessible with talkback. in
nrfb  you can read many news papers news in one platform.

On 1/31/16, Vikas Gupta  wrote:
> hai friend i want to know that is there any app to read news on my
> anderoid phone which is acessable with talk back.
>
> please reply as soon as posible. your help  is essential
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> vikas gupta
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>
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Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[Vedprakash Sharma]

It cannot.
We cannot find the desired seat number through audio announcement.
Neither can we locate the toilets etc through audio signals.
If my coach Number is S3 and seat number is 36, I cannot find it by audio 
announcements.
I have either to ask for someone's assistance or have to touch the designated 
braille signage.
If there is another alternative, please do tell.

Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

-Original Message-
From: li...@srinivasu.org [mailto:li...@srinivasu.org] 
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:44 PM
To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. 

Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
Mysuru, Varanasi

As many folks mentioned, audio  announcements and human assistance would help. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 31-Jan-2016, at 15:03, Vedprakash Sharma  
> wrote:
> 
> We are criticising the system but are not giving alternate solutions.
> If Braille is not desirable to locate births, compartments etc, what is the 
> better solution?
> 
> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of li...@srinivasu.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:28 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs 
> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
> 
> Manish, in general, I agree. But...
> 
> Would you be comfortable touching seats in a train compartment. How would you 
> know if there is no one seated?
> Secondly, it is usual that cleanliness in our railway stations is poor. Would 
> you be comfortable touching a dirty wall?
> 
> It's also true that there would be baggage or other goods anywhere, what's 
> the guarantee that you don't bump into them?
> 
> Installing Braille signages involves huge investment. Unless Railways ensure 
> practical usage, the investment go waste. 
> 
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu Sent from my iPhone 5C
> 
>> On 30-Jan-2016, at 08:02, Manish Agrawal  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree. Braille signage in public places is good.
>> Why do people believe it is a bad idea? And what is a better alternative?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Manish
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of sanjay
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:04 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs 
>> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
>> 
>> Blind organisations can think only from their perspective.  either 
>> government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole 
>> cannot have such a narrow perspective.  Whether you like it or not, 
>> for deaf-blind persons braille is the best option.  Those who think 
>> having braille symbols in public places is not a solution should do 
>> their homework again.  Any disability organisation which might have 
>> advocated braille in public places have done so, considering the 
>> needs of all disability categories.  Let there be braille and audio.  
>> We soil our hands while reading braille symbols not because of braille but 
>> because of uncivilised behaviour of our people.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs 
>> Between Mysuru,Varanasi
>> 
>> 
>>> I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille 
>>> has to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what 
>>> he/she prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option.
>>> 
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> Tilak.
>>> 
 On 1/27/16, George Abraham  wrote:
 We all know who the Govt consults!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
 On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
 Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
 Mysuru, Varanasi
 
 I had the pleasure of telling the railway Board Chairman that 
 Braille was a bad idea in compartments and on the train when I met 
 him at the NCDEPD meeting in December in Delhi. He turned around 
 and told me that it had been recommended by one of our groups and 
 it had come as a 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[li...@srinivasu.org]

As many folks mentioned, audio  announcements and human assistance would help. 

Regards,
Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
Sent from my iPhone 5C

> On 31-Jan-2016, at 15:03, Vedprakash Sharma  
> wrote:
> 
> We are criticising the system but are not giving alternate solutions.
> If Braille is not desirable to locate births, compartments etc, what is the 
> better solution?
> 
> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
> Of li...@srinivasu.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:28 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
> Mysuru, Varanasi
> 
> Manish, in general, I agree. But...
> 
> Would you be comfortable touching seats in a train compartment. How would you 
> know if there is no one seated?
> Secondly, it is usual that cleanliness in our railway stations is poor. Would 
> you be comfortable touching a dirty wall?
> 
> It's also true that there would be baggage or other goods anywhere, what's 
> the guarantee that you don't bump into them?
> 
> Installing Braille signages involves huge investment. Unless Railways ensure 
> practical usage, the investment go waste. 
> 
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone 5C
> 
>> On 30-Jan-2016, at 08:02, Manish Agrawal  wrote:
>> 
>> I agree. Braille signage in public places is good.
>> Why do people believe it is a bad idea? And what is a better alternative?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Manish
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of sanjay
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:04 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning 
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs 
>> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
>> 
>> Blind organisations can think only from their perspective.  either 
>> government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole 
>> cannot have such a narrow perspective.  Whether you like it or not, 
>> for deaf-blind persons braille is the best option.  Those who think 
>> having braille symbols in public places is not a solution should do 
>> their homework again.  Any disability organisation which might have 
>> advocated braille in public places have done so, considering the needs 
>> of all disability categories.  Let there be braille and audio.  We 
>> soil our hands while reading braille symbols not because of braille but 
>> because of uncivilised behaviour of our people.
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
>> Mysuru,Varanasi
>> 
>> 
>>> I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille 
>>> has to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what 
>>> he/she prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option.
>>> 
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> Tilak.
>>> 
 On 1/27/16, George Abraham  wrote:
 We all know who the Govt consults!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
 Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
 Mysuru, Varanasi
 
 I had the pleasure of telling the railway Board Chairman that 
 Braille was a bad idea in compartments and on the train when I met 
 him at the NCDEPD meeting in December in Delhi. He turned around and 
 told me that it had been recommended by one of our groups and it had 
 come as a suggestion from our sector and that they would not have 
 done it without consulting  with the Visually Impaired.
 So which Delhi based organisation wants to claim the credit for this 
 accessibility stunt?
 Let someone have the guts to own up to this.
 Kanchan
 
 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of George Abraham
 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:25 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between 
 Mysuru, Varanasi
 
 Brailee is very in books and on paper. In public spaces Braille is a 
 very bad idea.
 
 

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between Mysuru, Varanasi

[Tilakprasad Joshi]

I agree Braille alone will not provide accessibility but one should
not stop suggesting Braille as someone said, even if we do great
progress in technology but Braille is the basic step going towards the
accessibility, let us appreciate whatever government has done because
there is always a way for improvement

Warm Regards,
Tilak.


On 1/31/16, Vedprakash Sharma  wrote:
> We are criticising the system but are not giving alternate solutions.
> If Braille is not desirable to locate births, compartments etc, what is the
> better solution?
>
> Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of li...@srinivasu.org
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 9:28 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
> Mysuru, Varanasi
>
> Manish, in general, I agree. But...
>
> Would you be comfortable touching seats in a train compartment. How would
> you know if there is no one seated?
> Secondly, it is usual that cleanliness in our railway stations is poor.
> Would you be comfortable touching a dirty wall?
>
> It's also true that there would be baggage or other goods anywhere, what's
> the guarantee that you don't bump into them?
>
> Installing Braille signages involves huge investment. Unless Railways ensure
> practical usage, the investment go waste.
>
> Regards,
> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | @csrinivasu
> Sent from my iPhone 5C
>
>> On 30-Jan-2016, at 08:02, Manish Agrawal  wrote:
>>
>> I agree. Braille signage in public places is good.
>> Why do people believe it is a bad idea? And what is a better alternative?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Manish
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of sanjay
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 1:04 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning
>> the disabled.
>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs
>> Between Mysuru, Varanasi
>>
>> Blind organisations can think only from their perspective.  either
>> government or true representatives of disability sector as a whole
>> cannot have such a narrow perspective.  Whether you like it or not,
>> for deaf-blind persons braille is the best option.  Those who think
>> having braille symbols in public places is not a solution should do
>> their homework again.  Any disability organisation which might have
>> advocated braille in public places have done so, considering the needs
>> of all disability categories.  Let there be braille and audio.  We
>> soil our hands while reading braille symbols not because of braille but
>> because of uncivilised behaviour of our people.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Tilakprasad Joshi" 
>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerningthe disabled." 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 9:34 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
>> Mysuru,Varanasi
>>
>>
>>> I don't see any wrong by having Braille Signage and I feel Braille
>>> has to be there with other alternative, it is up to the person what
>>> he/she prefers, there is nothing wrong suggesting Braille as an option.
>>>
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> Tilak.
>>>
 On 1/27/16, George Abraham  wrote:
 We all know who the Govt consults!

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
 Sent: 27 January 2016 21:11
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
 Mysuru, Varanasi

 I had the pleasure of telling the railway Board Chairman that
 Braille was a bad idea in compartments and on the train when I met
 him at the NCDEPD meeting in December in Delhi. He turned around and
 told me that it had been recommended by one of our groups and it had
 come as a suggestion from our sector and that they would not have
 done it without consulting  with the Visually Impaired.
 So which Delhi based organisation wants to claim the credit for this
 accessibility stunt?
 Let someone have the guts to own up to this.
 Kanchan

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 Behalf Of George Abraham
 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:25 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 concerning the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] India's 1st Blind-friendly Train Runs Between
 Mysuru, Varanasi

 Brailee is 

Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma

[Vikas Kapoor]

Thanks Gautam for having explained these values in detail as usual in your 
case. Do you know any command through which if we type the decimal letters and 
it presents in a character form as it happens with Alt+NumPad keys. I'm asking 
this because if they've provided such option with NumPad, then why should the 
people without this pad be left at disadvantaged?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Him Prasad Gautam 
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerningthe 
disabled. 
  Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 8:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma


  hi,
  Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically
  assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the
  basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are
  two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as
  two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight.
  In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice,
  the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number
  are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
  There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than
  nine is expressed  by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10!
   In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers.
  they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not
  considered as alphabets of English but  the numeric expression larger
  than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and
  so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by
  the digital symbol 0 to f i.e.  sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen
  as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!!
  In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4
  5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0
  i.e. eight is written as 1 0!
  Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only
  two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three
  as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0!
  Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system!
  It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal
  system. 1 0 0 represents as 256.
  Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the
  capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it
  produced the small letter f which its character code. There are
  formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or
  binary figures and vice versa.
   For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or
  numerical science related literature's.

  On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
  > Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal
  > representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal
  > characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? The
  > Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the code is
  > to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme also,
  > it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in
  > decimal.
  >   - Original Message -
  >   From: Umesha S E
  >   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  > concerningthe disabled.
  >   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM
  >   Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma
  >
  >
  >   Hi,
  >   66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code.
  >   use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented in
  >   hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws, move
  >   the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you
  >   decimal or hexodecimal value based on your jaws configuration. to
  >   change it, go to configuration manager, go to graphics and symbols,
  >   check the "speak the character codes in hex" checkbox.
  >
  >   Umesha
  >
  >   On 1/30/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
  >   > Folks,
  >   > A very strange dilemma regarding typing the Unicode characters I found:
  >   > While pressing alt followed by numbers on the NumPad gives one result,
  > and
  >   > pressing the numbers on the regular number row followed by alt+X in the
  > word
  >   > application gives another result. For example, while pressing  Alt+66 on
  > the
  >   > NumPad gives the Unicode character result as capital B, and on the
  > other
  >   > hand pressing 66 followed by Alt+X gives the result as lower f. So, my
  >   > dilemma is which one to follow? In other words, which one is the
  > correct
  >   > representation of the Unicode character?
  >   > Vikas Kapoor,
  >   > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
  >   > Skype Id: dl_vikas
  >   >
  >   > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
  > of
  >   > mobile phones / Tabs on:
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  > 

[AI] pass is issued only for 5 years only

[SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI]

indian railways is issueing pass only for 5 years only again to renew
it we should go to d.r.m. office which will creat troubles for us

On 1/31/16, sazid shaik  wrote:
> in my view railway will issue pass for only completly blind only.  As
> they do not know technically.  for example I am suffering from RP 6
> years back i can identify things at that time i faced lot of problems
> for getting concession certificate.
>
> regard,
> sazid
>
> On 1/31/16, SHANKAR DIGUVAPALLI  wrote:
>> dear list members resently i had visited d.r.m. office at guntakallu
>> in andhrapradesh to get permanent railway pass for the visually
>> disabled persons. there they issued passes only for the persons who
>> are 100 percent blind. when i asked the reason why they are not
>> issueing pass for people with low vision the answer they gave me was
>> that if some one donates eyes then the visually disabled persons would
>> recover sight. i felt that the answer was rediculous. friends if
>> anyone have the set of guidelines for issueing railway pass please
>> share with me. with regards.
>>
>>
>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>> of
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>> sent through this mailing list..
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Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma

[Him Prasad Gautam]

hi,
Decimal is the system of digital expression where it is basically
assumed that there exists ten numbers. In hexadecimal system, the
basic number are assumed as sixteen. In general practice, there are
two more system too. The binary where the basic number are consider as
two and the octagonal where the basic numbers are consider as eight.
In our daily life, as we understand the numerical system of practice,
the number are in decimal system. In decimal system, the basic number
are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9.
There is no single digit number larger than 9. The larger number than
nine is expressed  by two digit figure that is 1 and 0 i.e. 10!
 In hexadecimal system, there are sixteen single digit basic numbers.
they are 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f. Here a b c d e f are not
considered as alphabets of English but  the numeric expression larger
than nine. I.e. Ten is represented by a, eleven by b, twelve by c and
so on. The larger than fifteen is represented by two digit figure by
the digital symbol 0 to f i.e.  sixteen is written as 1 0, seventeen
as 1 1 , eighteen as 1 2 and 255 as ff!!
In octagonal system, there are only eight numbers. They are 0 1 2 3 4
5 6 7. Here larger than seven is expressed by two digit i.e. 1 and 0
i.e. eight is written as 1 0!
Similarly, In binary system, it is considered that there exists only
two basic number! they are 0 and 1. Here, two is written as 1 0, three
as 1 1, and four as 1 0 0!
Mind that The whole computer stand on the binary system!
It means, in binary system 1 0 0 represents as two and in hexadecimal
system. 1 0 0 represents as 256.
Hence In your case, 66 in decimal is sixty Six and it produced the
capital letter B but in hexadecimal system 6 6 means 102 and it
produced the small letter f which its character code. There are
formulas to convert the decimal figure to hexadecimal or octagonal or
binary figures and vice versa.
 For further information, please study the fundamentals of computer or
numerical science related literature's.

On 1/31/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
> Hi Umesh, what is the difference between decimal and hexadecimal
> representation? Further, what is the precise way to convert the decimal
> characters to letters in case there's no NumPad present in a laptop? The
> Alt+X command is applicable only for the word programme, what if the code is
> to be converted into a letter in notepad? Even in the word programme also,
> it gives only in hexadecimal while JAWS, by default gives the result in
> decimal.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Umesha S E
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerningthe disabled.
>   Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:39 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Unicode Dilemma
>
>
>   Hi,
>   66 for capital B is decimal code. 66 for small f is hexodecimal code.
>   use which one you want. usually, unicode characters are represented in
>   hexodecimal mode. to get the code for a character spoken by jaws, move
>   the cursor to it, press numpad 5 thrice quickly. it can give you
>   decimal or hexodecimal value based on your jaws configuration. to
>   change it, go to configuration manager, go to graphics and symbols,
>   check the "speak the character codes in hex" checkbox.
>
>   Umesha
>
>   On 1/30/16, Vikas Kapoor  wrote:
>   > Folks,
>   > A very strange dilemma regarding typing the Unicode characters I found:
>   > While pressing alt followed by numbers on the NumPad gives one result,
> and
>   > pressing the numbers on the regular number row followed by alt+X in the
> word
>   > application gives another result. For example, while pressing  Alt+66 on
> the
>   > NumPad gives the Unicode character result as capital B, and on the
> other
>   > hand pressing 66 followed by Alt+X gives the result as lower f. So, my
>   > dilemma is which one to follow? In other words, which one is the
> correct
>   > representation of the Unicode character?
>   > Vikas Kapoor,
>   > Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
>   > Skype Id: dl_vikas
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