Re: Security with CFCs [LONG]

2004-07-16 Thread Paul Kenney
Is this perhaps something that could be generalized for public consumption?

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:55:39 -0700, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim
> 
> How did you do that?
> 
> You got 233 lines past  Michael's 100-line filter.
> 
> Now as to the content.
> 
> I read through it and you present a very good case (but that's what you
> do).
> 
> I feel like here is a bit too much abstraction -- tho, I can't
> specifically point to where
> 
> I also feel (and I hardly ever use the word "feel") that this has been
> done before (many times, many ways).
> 
> You may, in fact have a breakthrough way of doing authorization, but I
> got lost in the details of implementation.
> 
> Tell me what it does & why I need it!
> 
> Respectfully
> 
> Dick
> 
>
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cfx_image

2004-07-16 Thread Mickael
Hi 

Can anyone point me to where I can find the a tutorial on how to use CFX_Image?  Or the docs?

Thanks

Mike
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Re: Security with CFCs [LONG]

2004-07-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
Jim

How did you do that?

You got 233 lines past  Michael's 100-line filter.

Now as to the content.

I read through it and you present a very good case (but that's what you 
do).

I feel like here is a bit too much abstraction -- tho, I can't 
specifically point to where

I also feel (and I hardly ever use the word "feel") that this has been 
done before (many times, many ways).

You may, in fact have a breakthrough way of doing authorization, but I 
got lost in the details of implementation.

Tell me what it does & why I need it!

Respectfully

Dick
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Re: Dinowitz_Debug

2004-07-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> > Go to the front of House of Fusion (http://www.houseoffusion.com). The
> > download location as well as the install instructions are right there.
> > Have fun and let me know what you think.
> 
> The table breakdown isn't working for me
> 
> I get the Queries and the Scopes, but the Execution Time is blank

I'm seeing the standard debug screen.  Did I grab the wrong one?

Hatton
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Re: Dinowitz_Debug

2004-07-16 Thread Philip Arnold
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 19:36:29 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
> Go to the front of House of Fusion (http://www.houseoffusion.com). The
> download location as well as the install instructions are right there.
> Have fun and let me know what you think.

The table breakdown isn't working for me

I get the Queries and the Scopes, but the Execution Time is blank
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RE: Testing for file existence across domains

2004-07-16 Thread Jim Davis
Yes - use CFHTTP to get the image and examine the return: you can tell from
that whether the image exists or not. 

I did this long ago to check to see if book covers were available at
Amazon.com.

Jim Davis

  _  

From: Rick Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Testing for file existence across domains

> Why not just use CFHTTP to get the specific file?  There's nothing saying
> that CFHTTP HAS to call an HTML page.
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
Hi Jim,

I need to test for the existence - some properties will have more than 8
images (those I can get all eight just fine), and some will have anywheres
from none through 8. I only want to display images if they are present, and
not resort to using a 1-pixel gif as a substitute if there is no image.

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Re: Testing for file existence across domains

2004-07-16 Thread Paul Kenney
Does the remote server have any scripting/CGI abilites or is it
running something like PERL, ASP, JSP, CF?  If so, you could simply
have the remote server check for you.  All you would have to do is
tell it which files to check in a list.   Does the remote server have
FTP access?  If so, you could use that to check for file existence as
well without having to initiate separate connections for each file.

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:31:32 -0500, Rick Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why not just use CFHTTP to get the specific file?  There's nothing saying
> > that CFHTTP HAS to call an HTML page.
> >
> > Jim Davis
> > 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I need to test for the existence ­ some properties will have more than 8
> images (those I can get all eight just fine), and some will have anywheres
> from none through 8. I only want to display images if they are present, and
> not resort to using a 1-pixel gif as a substitute if there is no image.
> 
> 
>
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Re: Testing for file existence across domains

2004-07-16 Thread Rick Dawson
> Why not just use CFHTTP to get the specific file?  There's nothing saying
> that CFHTTP HAS to call an HTML page.
> 
> Jim Davis
> 
Hi Jim,

I need to test for the existence ­ some properties will have more than 8
images (those I can get all eight just fine), and some will have anywheres
from none through 8. I only want to display images if they are present, and
not resort to using a 1-pixel gif as a substitute if there is no image.
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RE: Testing for file existence across domains

2004-07-16 Thread Jim Davis
Why not just use CFHTTP to get the specific file?  There's nothing saying
that CFHTTP HAS to call an HTML page.

Jim Davis

  _  

From: Rick Dawson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 8:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Testing for file existence across domains

I need to test for the existence of images that are on another web server
based upon an ID number returned from a local SQL query. As an example, I
need to see if 143231a - e.jpg exist on
http://www.differentserverhere.com/photos/ if my query gives me the ID
number of 143231. CFHTTP does not work well in this instance; I need to test
for specific files and not just retrieve everything.

I'd appreciate any help y'all can give me - if I'm not clear, let me know.

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Testing for file existence across domains

2004-07-16 Thread Rick Dawson
I need to test for the existence of images that are on another web server
based upon an ID number returned from a local SQL query. As an example, I
need to see if 143231a - e.jpg exist on
http://www.differentserverhere.com/photos/ if my query gives me the ID
number of 143231. CFHTTP does not work well in this instance; I need to test
for specific files and not just retrieve everything.

I'd appreciate any help y'all can give me - if I'm not clear, let me know.
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Testing file existence across domains

2004-07-16 Thread Rick Dawson
I need to test for the existence of images that are on another web server
based upon an ID number returned from a local SQL query. As an example, I
need to see if 143231a - e.jpg exist on
http://www.differentserverhere.com/photos/ if my query gives me the ID
number of 143231. CFHTTP does not work well in this instance; I need to test
for specific files and not just retrieve everything.

I'd appreciate any help y'all can give me - if I'm not clear, let me know.
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Re: Dinowitz_Debug

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Go to the front of House of Fusion (http://www.houseoffusion.com). The
download location as well as the install instructions are right there.
Have fun and let me know what you think.

> Where do we get it for testing???
-- 
Michael Dinowitz
http://www.houseoffusion.com
For all your ColdFusion needs
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Re: Access a web site through the coldfusion server -retry?

2004-07-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> You Need you to check via a browser from bridgesupport.intra.dsd.com  (i/p address 147.149.139.81) what response you get from  http://sms.labs.dsd.com/ipinfo  
> 
> 
> How would I do this?

cfhttp

Jochem
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Re: CFMX to create ACCESS .mbd file

2004-07-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Dwayne Cole wrote:

> I want to use CFMX to:
> 
> 1). Create an Access Database File .mbd

Easy way: have an empty .mdb and just copy it.
Hard way: COM

> 2). Register that Access Dabase File with ColdFusion Administrator

http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/index.cfm?PageID=12 and the 
list archives.

Jochem
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Re: FB 4 circuits and fuseactions

2004-07-16 Thread Sean Corfield
> FB4.1 is in the works from my understanding, hopefully it won't take long.

It's being released at Fusebox 2004:

http://www.cfconf.org/fusebox2004/
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Re: Dinowitz_Debug

2004-07-16 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Where do we get it for testing???

I'll second that request!

Hatton
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RE: Security with CFCs [LONG]

2004-07-16 Thread Jim Davis
[Just reviving an old topic - thanks to Matt, Barney and Dave for setting
some things straight.]

Now that I've had some time to consider things (and head down about 50
dead-ends) I think I've got something good.  I just wanted to run it by
folks to get some opinions:

My goal is to create a security system that can be applied somewhat
painlessly to my web applications (it will, in the end, be an optional part
of my personal implementation framework).  The goals were to: 

1)   Build only the logical and persistence elements of the system (no
presentation).  That way I could customize the interface how I wanted per
application.

2)   Build a CFC-based (e.g object rather procedural) system.  This was
also to allow the system to extend several pre-built utility components I've
already done.

3)   The security system would not secure itself.  Perhaps this is
wrong, but I didn't want to make it that complicated.  Instead the interface
would use  the security system to security "admin" type functionality - in
other words such entitlement checking would be done outside the system.

4)   The system should aggressively cache information for performance,
but should err on the side of logical correctness rather than performance
gains.

5)   The system should allow for basic roles/groups entitlements.

6)   The system should be flexible enough to add (later!) common
security needs ("three strikes and you're out" authentications, blocked
users, multiple log ins, etc)

7)   The system should allow for admin/entitlement changes to be
reflected immediately upon current authentications (i.e. banning somebody
would take effect immediately not upon the next log in).

Conceptually I've defined a few things:

Group: An umbrella label for protected things/function (or sets of
things/function) such as "Adminstrator", "Member", "Editor", etc.

User: A virtual concept representing a person (or, I guess, something else)
using the system.  Each user has an associated Credential, Profile and
Entitlement.

Credential: User information specific to the security system (username,
password hash, last login date, etc).

Profile: User information not specific to the security system (name, phone
number, address, etc).

Entitlement: A list of groups that the user can access.

Authentication: A representation of a "current log in".  Contains references
to the user, the session which authenticated and times of access.



Considering that, this is what I've come up with (I'm only going to go over
the basic components - each extends other components and has
persistence-broker sub components and so forth, but I won't get into that).

DP_SecurityConfiguration.CFC

This CFC just contains basic installation and uninstallation
routines (creation of data tables, scheduled tasks, etc).  It's only used
for installation (and installation).

DP_Security.CFC

The main entry point of the whole shebang.  Contains system settings,
creation/deletion methods (for users and groups), and authentication
methods.  Also contains the Authentications collection and the mediator
(caching) components (described below).

DP_Authentications.CFC

A collection component for holding/managing authentications.  Contains
methods for retrieving specific authentications (using sessionkey) and
expiring timed-out sessions.

DP_Authentication.CFC

Represents a current authentication and is keyed from SessionID.
Contains the UserKey (which links an authentication to a user) and the
ability to fetch and return that user's Credential, Profile or Entitlement
from the mediators.  Also contains the time of last access (used to control
authentication time-outs).

The authentication component could also be extended to manage a
"three-strikes and you're out" rule by limited any specific session to three
login attempts.

DP_Credential.CFC

Represents a credential.  Takes a UserKey and has methods for
loading and saving Credential data from the database.  All system users have
to have a Credential.

DP_Profile.CFC

Represents a profile.  Takes a UserKey and has methods for
loading and saving Profile data from the database.  Profiles are optional
(not all system users have to have a profile).  So a "blank" profile can be
returned.

DP_Entitlement.CFC

Represents an entitlement.  Takes a UserKey and has methods for
loading and saving Entitlement data from the database.  Entitlements are
optional (since not all system user have to have access to something).  This
also what's called to check entitlements (as in isEntitled(grouplist) ).

DP_CredentialMediator.CFC

All requests for Credentials will go through the
CredentialMediator.  It will determine if the requested Credential exists
(returning an error if it doesn't) and return a reference to the component
instance.  The component instance will be placed in a collection cache.  In
this way requests for the same credential will also resu

RE: Dinowitz_Debug

2004-07-16 Thread DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT)
Michael,

 
Where do we get it for testing???

 
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 2:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Dinowitz_Debug

Dinowitz_Debug is a new debugging template for CFMX that makes use of
CFTREE to show a proper threaded relationship between templates. It
also cleans up some of the debugging code, removes what's not being
used and makes it faster (which is needed for the slower CFTREE).

What's lost? Color coding of root templates (no worry) and color
coding of templates that take a long time to run.
What do I want to add? The ability to see if something was a include,
module or cfc.
What do I need? Someone to go into their /cfide/classes/images
directory and look at the small images there. What image (of that
specific size) would you want to use for a slow file? What would you
like to use for an include? for a CFC? for a module? If someone can
create some proper images, please do and send them over to me. If I
can, I'll get this out before sundown today. Otherwise, over the
weekend.

BTW, a few things are hard coded for now. height and width of the tree
in particular.
-- 
Michael Dinowitz
http://www.houseoffusion.com
For all your ColdFusion needs 
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Re: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)

2004-07-16 Thread Robert Munn
I am half-kidding, but I would like a tool that is smart enough to show inline spelling and grammar problems and fix them. Just like the spelling and grammar tools in Word, this should be a feature you can disable if it gets in your way. 

The biggest obstacle I see to building tools like this is the time required to make them work even half well versus the payoff in potential market for programming tools. Maybe Dreamweaver has a big enough market to make it a viable enhancement, but compare that to the size of the market for MS Word. 

>I think I might sound like an old man here, but I can easily picture
>this product coming out, installing it and then screaming at the top of
>my lungs because it won't leave me alone.
>
>ME: Don't change that code please.
>
>HAL: I'm going to change it Ken.
>
>ME: Please Hal, I want it that way.
>
>HAL: I'm going to change it Ken.
>
>ME: Hal, I want it written that way!
>
>HAL: I was developed to be your superior. I'll make the decisions on
>what code gets written and where.
>
>ME: If you touch that F*%KING code Hal, I'm going to rip out your power
>cord.
>
>HAL: If you touch my power cord, I'll format the hard-drive, Ken. 
>
>ME...
>
>HAL...
>
>ME...
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Re: OT/flash question

2004-07-16 Thread Shane Landry
Using Flash 5 or 6 (7 too) you can load the variables included in the
object and embed tag for use in your flash movie.

example (in your html/cfm/etc. host page in this case named "test.cfm"):



...

... 



example (in your flash movie):

In frame 1. Frame Action

loadVariablesNum("test.cfm", 0);

.("host page name", "movie level to load vars into")

tip you may need to wait a few frames, i suggest 5, on your
timeline before you try and use/parse that variables you have just
loaded.

...

This method works like a champ for every version of flash and the
flash player. No matter how slick they have made the player this is
really the only way to start a file off with custom/dynamic data from
the host page.

Hope this helps.

Shaniac
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JavaScript refresh issue

2004-07-16 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Hey All,

The scenario:
A "snapshot" page with various sections...each section with lists of
records...each witha  delete link.

When the delete link is pressed a delete confirmation window is popped up
asking "Are you sure" with a Yes and a No button.

When the Yes button is pressed, the form in that window posts back to
itself...does what it needs to and then runs the following code meant to:
-refresh the parent window (snapshot page) to reflect the deleted record
-scroll the parent window to the section the user deleted a record from
-close the child window (the one with "are you sure" in it

the code:
  
  
    window.opener.location.reload();
    window.opener.location="index.cfm?pg=snapshot##section1";
    window.close();
   On my machine (Win XP with latest IE 6 patches etc.) this works fine For some others with the same setup they get the good old popup with the "retry" and "cancel" buttons stating something to the effect that in order to refresh the page some info needs to be re-sent. Any ideas? As far as I can tell the browser settings on all machines tested are the same. TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)

2004-07-16 Thread Sean Corfield
> It would be really nice to see a comprehensive session on build large
> Enterprise applications(ERP)
> using MVC's and concern/questions on strong implementations.

Did you submit that suggestion when Macromedia was asking for session
topics? If not, why not? :)

> I am thinking MAX 2004 might just be more of Trade show for Macromedia

I gather that last year's pretty much was according to some folks I
know who went. I believe this year's is much more driven by community
requests...

> What is CF_UNDERGROUND about?

Organized by Michael Smith / TeraTech. Do a Google search to find out
more about it :)
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ANNOUNCE: Fusebox Conference Early Bird ends 7/31/04

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Smith
The early bird $149 price for Fusebox conference ends 7/31/04. See 
http://www.cfconf.org/fusebox2004/ for details.

This year's conference has 12 nationally known speakers including
Hal Helms, John Q, Jeff Peters, Sandra Clark, Michael Smith, Steve Nelson,
Brian Kotek, Rey Muradaz, Matt Liotta, John Paul Ashenfelter

Fusebox Washington DC area 9/18 - 9/19/04:
* Learn Fusebox, Mach-II and more!
* Network with your peers and top national speakers
* Have fun exploring what is new in Fusebox

Tracks:
* Advanced Topics
* Basic Topics
* Optional classes on intro to Fusebox, Intermediate Fusebox and Mach-II

Pricing schedule - register today to save!
* Just $149 Early Bird Price from 1/1/04 - 7/31/04
* Ok   $199 Regular Price 8/1/04 - 9/10/04
* Opps $249 Late Registration 9/11/04 - 9/17/04
* Onsite $300

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Re: query problems from blank form entries

2004-07-16 Thread daniel kessler
I see your  practical assumption which I didn't before.
But in this case I'm looking for a duplicate and getting "every matching record regarless of address" doesn't help there.  I'd want #2.

> > But if I don't do the address part of the clause, then I'd get all 
> of the "World B. Free"s out there whether they're at 1101 Palace Place, 
> or 2104 Cremola Blvd.  
> 
> Well, you'd only not do the address part of the clause if they didn't 
> put in an address.
> 
> Basically, if they don't put in an address, you have two options:
> 
> 1) Get every matching record, regardless of address
> 2) Get every matching record where the address is an empty string.
> 
> My code assumes you'd want #1.  Usually, when people leave a field 
> blank, they're not looking for records where that field is blank in 
> the database.
> 
> Scott
> 
> ---
> Scott Brady
> http://www.scottbrady.net/
>
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RE: FB 4 circuits and fuseactions

2004-07-16 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
> I read the information on the FB forum and Like JCQ said, its 
> either a bug or a feature. In the Fusebox 4  & Flip book by 
> Jeff Petters on page 242 it says "It is good practice to 
> always have at least a processError plugin that handles errors "

I like the ability to handle these FUSEBOX exceptions myself, although I do
not like wrapping cftry around the core file include. It would be if there
was a more elegant way to handle this, I do agree. However, until that
happens, the best you are going to get it to catch the FUSEBOX exceptions
and go from there Which I do not see as being all that bad to be honest.

> If it is good practice for us to do handle errors, then in my 
> opinion these types of errors should be handled by the core 
> files and not me.

Why not you? The errors are explicitly thrown and are catchable, do you just
not like the fact that you have to catch them and handle it? It could go
either way here I guess... What would happen if you did want to handle them
yourself but the core files handled it for you, then would you not just be
fudging something else to fit your needs?

> I don't want this to read as a flame. Just want to show I did 
> some home work on the subject. Maybe I haven't done enough. *shrug*

No flame taken :-)
I see you did some homework on the subject, I am just giving you my opinion
and ways of doing things.

FB4.1 is in the works from my understanding, hopefully it won't take long.
:-)

Enjoy the weekend!

Mike
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Re: OT/flash question

2004-07-16 Thread John Dowdell
At 10:35 AM 7/16/4, Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:
> quick flash question.  is there any way to supply (in flash 5
> and up) a custom param tag when embedding in a web page, and
> use it in the actionscript of the flash.. for example, with
> a web banner, I want to be able to parametrically supply the
> click-through URL, etc...

The common way these days to pass data to the SWF through its hosting
markup is via the FlashVars parameter & attribute for OBJECT and EMBED
tags, respectively:
"Using FlashVars to pass variables to a SWF"
http://www.macromedia.com/go/16417

But you mentioned the Macromedia Flash Player 5... FlashVars was introduced
two years ago with the 6.0 Player. For earlier approaches, try:
"Different approaches to setting variables in a Flash movie"
http://www.macromedia.com/go/14253

Unless you have a specific and odd audience, I'd urge you to reinvestigate
that "MFP5 or better" constraint... from the MediaMetrix March consumer
audit, fewer than 3% of consumers have only the Macromedia Flash Player 5
installed, and well over 90% have either of the last two versions:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetra
tion.html

(If you're on a landlocked intranet or other situation where people cannot
install software onto their own machines, then it may be useful to lobby
the client to have their machines upgraded to something recent... there
have been many security and performance improvements over the past few
years.)

If you're by chance creating a web banner advertising system, then
DoubleClick's DART Motif and similar resources have already worked through
these issues:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/rich_media_ads

jd



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Re: FB 4 circuits and fuseactions

2004-07-16 Thread Phill B
I read the information on the FB forum and Like JCQ said, its either a
bug or a feature. In the Fusebox 4  & Flip book by Jeff Petters on
page 242 it says "It is good practice to always have at least a
processError plugin that handles errors "

If it is good practice for us to do handle errors, then in my opinion
these types of errors should be handled by the core files and not me.
If I have to change a core file, including the index.cfm file, I am
rigging it. I should never have to touch these files. Several open
source apps I have used say that if you tweak their core files, they
can't and wont help you.

I don't want this to read as a flame. Just want to show I did some
home work on the subject. Maybe I haven't done enough. *shrug*

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Phillip B. 

- Original Message -
From: Tangorre, Michael 

You don't have to rig anything! Go to the FB4 forums and search around,
there is a lot of discussion on this stuff.
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Re: cfmx hot fixes

2004-07-16 Thread Alex Hubner
Steve, I faced the same issues due the number of fresh installs. The process of updating this hotfixes/security patches one-by-one is so daunting that I decided to make a "package" by my own (read the previous messages of this thread). Also, I keep track of the changes in the RSS feed for ColdFusion Technotes - http://www.macromedia.com/go/rss_coldfusion - and add/change then to this package as soon as they are released.

The updating processes are almost equal to all fixes available. You basically need to stop the CF services (and related ones such as Crystal - if it's running), replace or/and add files to the CF_root folder structure, add some tweak JVM arguments (inside the CFAdministrator) and restart the service. It's easy to do in a single step for stand-alone installs both in Windows and Linux boxes if you have a single fix "repository".

Till we don't have a updater and a better updating process (which is expected for Blackstone) I suggest you to make the same. Take a look in this very simple guide I've wrote: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cfgigolo.com%2Funsorted%2Freadme_pacotao.txt&langpair=pt%7Cen&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools (translations are very hard to do, but you can have the big picture)

I second that the coldfusionupdater.macromedia.com! ;-) Will be very good and I believe is not that hard to build.

[]'s
Alex

>Alex,
> 
>I already have the hot fixes.  I'm just sick of 1) having to do so many for
>a clean new install. and 2) having to recheck each one of those continuously
>because they update them.  
> 
>I'd like to have one large updater that has these and then a small amount of
>patches/hotfixes after.
> 
>Better yet, If you hit a magic number of hotfixes/security updates (lets say
>10 for an example) issue a new updater.  If macromedia had an autoupdate
>function that would be great to.  Even though I'm not a big fan of M$, the
>windowsupdate.microsoft.com site can be great.  Select all of the patches
>you want and have them all installed at once (unless something requires a
>reboot). 
> 
>How about it macromedia would you consider coldfusionupdate.macromedia.com?
>You could even continue with flashupdate.macromedia.com and
>dreamweaverupdate.macromedia.com.  Or roll them up in
>macromediaupdate.update.com and have it update all of the different
>macromedia products that are installed.  Think about it get on the cf server
>go to a web page and have all the updates done.
> 
>h  I like it!
> 
>Steve
> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Alex Hubner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 10:53 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: cfmx hot fixes
>
>
>Steve, here's the hotfixes (and some important workarounds) url list for
>ColdFusion MX 6.1:
>
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/navserver_blank.ht
>m
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/crystal_hotfix.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/conn_pool_hotfix.h
>tm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfmx61_sqlserver_c
>pu.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfinsert_hotfix.ht
>m
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/com_hotfix.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfform_hotfix.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/hotfix_domain_cook
>ies.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/quotes_hotfix.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/webservices_header
>.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/createuuid_clock_s
>peed.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/duplicate_hotfix.h
>tm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/client_purge_hotfi
>x.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfmx61_cfapplets_h
>otfix.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb03-07.html
>http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb03-06.html
>http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb04-01.html
>http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb04-02.html
>http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb04-04.html
>http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb04-06.html
>
>Workarounds:
>
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/com_sandbox.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18361.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/multihomed_cfide.h
>tm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/mx61_install_path.
>htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/rhas3_config.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfftp_sandbox.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/log_error_sitewide
>.htm
>http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/jto

Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Yes. The new ones have [ENCRYPTED] after them.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ciliotta, Mario 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:36 PM
  Subject: RE: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

  Is anyone getting dupicate posting???

  -Original Message-
  From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:50 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

  Then isn't it time for a Baghdad Cold Fusion Users Group? You are slow off the
  ball.

  Good luck, come back safe and thank you.

  Jerry Johnson

  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 11:02AM >>>
  Speaking of that, this will be my second time there. I too was in the first
  war. 
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RE: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)

2004-07-16 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Ken,

that's not Hal Helms is it?

-mk
  -Original Message-
  From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:45 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)

  I know you're half-kidding here, but you're not too far off of what
  people who make these things would just LOVE to do.

  If you find an editor like this, please let me know so that I can AVOID
  IT LIKE THE PLAGUE! The worst thing about all these WYSIWYG's and new
  IDEs is that they won't just get out of the way. I always think that if
  I type something - that's what I wanted to type. The reason I like CF
  Studio and Homesite is that they have the handy little code completion
  things that drop down and you can hit enter or keep typing without them
  slowing you down or changing stuff without you. But I get so sick of all
  of this over-automation.

  I think I might sound like an old man here, but I can easily picture
  this product coming out, installing it and then screaming at the top of
  my lungs because it won't leave me alone.

  ME: Don't change that code please.

  HAL: I'm going to change it Ken.

  ME: Please Hal, I want it that way.

  HAL: I'm going to change it Ken.

  ME: Hal, I want it written that way!

  HAL: I was developed to be your superior. I'll make the decisions on
  what code gets written and where.

  ME: If you touch that F*%KING code Hal, I'm going to rip out your power
  cord.

  HAL: If you touch my power cord, I'll format the hard-drive, Ken. 

  ME...

  HAL...

  ME...

  You see what I mean? We'd all end up smashing our computers with large
  sledgehammers and moving to Idaho to live in the woods.

  Who was it that suggested a felt-tip pen...? I think that was the best
  idea so far.

  Ferg

    _  

  From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:47 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)

  >So the question isn't whether or not to have tools, but what sort of
  tools
  >will they be?

  Personally I'd like a tool that can "fill in the blanks" on simple
  coding tasks. Templates and wizards help to some extent, but I'd like
  something smart enough to go back and fix my mistakes, add missing
  parameters, that sort of thing. 

  For instance, I wrote a little function on the list not to long ago, and
  I used _javascript_ notation for a loop in cfscript. I want an editor that
  is smart enough to not only tell me that's wrong but to suggest changes
  or even fix code automatically and highlight the changes. This is
  functionally no different than a spelling and grammar checker in a word
  processor. 

  Of course, what I'd really like is an editor that wrote code for me so I
  could tell it what I want and have it produce all the code. It should
  understand my voice over the cellphone- that way I can spend more time
  at the beach. ;-) OK, maybe that's a little tongue in cheek but
  ultimately I don't see why not. 

  In fact, once a system becomes that sophisticated you can just cut out
  the editor completely and talk directly to the application server. You
  can call your CF application server using VoIP and just tell it what you
  want it to build. Voice could be augmented by other forms of input-
  text, binary file input. CF Server Enterprise, Voice-Enabled Edition.
  Now that's RAD.

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Re: query problems from blank form entries

2004-07-16 Thread Scott Brady
Original Message:
> From: daniel kessler 

> But if I don't do the address part of the clause, then I'd get all of the "World B. Free"s out there whether they're at 1101 Palace Place, or 2104 Cremola Blvd.  

Well, you'd only not do the address part of the clause if they didn't put in an address.

Basically, if they don't put in an address, you have two options:

1) Get every matching record, regardless of address
2) Get every matching record where the address is an empty string.

My code assumes you'd want #1.  Usually, when people leave a field blank, they're not looking for records where that field is blank in the database.

Scott

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Re: (Admin) Please check your mail system

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
The offender is someone from uci.edu. I've blocked any messageid from
that domain. If your from uci.edu and want to post, fix your mail
server!
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Re: more old posts coming through

2004-07-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
Bryan, can you send one or two of the messages to Mike D as samples. I've already deleted mine or I would.

Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/04 02:03PM >>>
now they have [ENCRYPTED] appended to the subject lines

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-
Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com 
-
Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
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Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)

2004-07-16 Thread Paul Kenney
It was mostly a 3-day commercial last year.  However, I've heard that
MM got so much flack for last year's MAX, that this year they will not
do that again.  That means that this year MAX should be focused on
what the community(read attendees) want to see and hear, and less on
what marketing wants its captive audience to experience for three
days.

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 14:14:36 -0400, Joe Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am thinking MAX 2004 might just be more of Trade show for Macromedia
> Products.

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(Admin) Please check your mail system

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
OK, someone here has a problem with their mail system. Every now and
again their mail system starts sending messages back to the list.
Messages from a day ago. The latest time the messages are getting a
postfix of [ENCRYPTED]. If this sounds like your mail system, please
fix it.
Thanks
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Re: CF Image Gallery

2004-07-16 Thread John Elder
Here's something I wrote awhile back. It's not pretty
but does the job.
You'll need cfx_image.

After you fix it up send it back :)



	Gallery


cellspacing="4"> Photo Album    thePath="#thePath#" rootdir="#rootdir#" pinfo="#pinfo#">      thePath="#thePath#" rootdir="#rootdir#" pinfo="#pinfo#">   directory="#basepath##Replace(attributes.pinfo, "/", "\", "all")#" name="mydirectory" sort="name"> ListFindNoCase(name, "..")> href=""> listContainsNoCase(QuotedValueList(mydirectory.name), "thumb_#name#")> href=""> "thumb_", "")#"> #ReplaceNoCase(Name, ".jpg", "")# 0)>     file="#basepath##Replace(attributes.pinfo, "/", "\", "all")##Name#" commands=" setvar x=100 setvar y=100 resize write #basepath##Replace(attributes.pinfo, "/", "\", "all")#thumb_#Name#">       > If someone code point me to some open source code > that would be great, or if it is not difficult give > me a couple of pointers on how to build it. > > Thanks > > Mike > > [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]

RE: solutions for code resuse inside the tags ...

2004-07-16 Thread Dave Watts
> Thanks Dave, I did think about using 
> type="exception">, was wondering if that was compatible 
> under CF 5

Yes, it is. I think that was introduced in CF 4.0.1.

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Dinowitz_Debug

2004-07-16 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Dinowitz_Debug is a new debugging template for CFMX that makes use of
CFTREE to show a proper threaded relationship between templates. It
also cleans up some of the debugging code, removes what's not being
used and makes it faster (which is needed for the slower CFTREE).

What's lost? Color coding of root templates (no worry) and color
coding of templates that take a long time to run.
What do I want to add? The ability to see if something was a include,
module or cfc.
What do I need? Someone to go into their /cfide/classes/images
directory and look at the small images there. What image (of that
specific size) would you want to use for a slow file? What would you
like to use for an include? for a CFC? for a module? If someone can
create some proper images, please do and send them over to me. If I
can, I'll get this out before sundown today. Otherwise, over the
weekend.

BTW, a few things are hard coded for now. height and width of the tree
in particular.
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Re: java cfx tag not working

2004-07-16 Thread George Abraham
Here you go.

CFX settings for this tag: 
Tag Name : CFX_JAVAZIPPER   	
Class Name : CFJavaZipper

Java Settings
Java Virtual Machine Path - F:\CFUSION\Java
Class PAth - F:\CFUSION\Java\classes;F:\CFUSION\Java\classes\cfjavazipper.jar
CFX Jar Path - F:\CFUSION\Java\classes

Location of the jar file - F:\CFUSION\Java\classes\cfjavazipper.jar

I also had a look inside the jar file and there is only one class file
in there: CFJavaZipper.class

George
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RE: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)

2004-07-16 Thread Ken Ferguson
I know you're half-kidding here, but you're not too far off of what
people who make these things would just LOVE to do.

If you find an editor like this, please let me know so that I can AVOID
IT LIKE THE PLAGUE! The worst thing about all these WYSIWYG's and new
IDEs is that they won't just get out of the way. I always think that if
I type something - that's what I wanted to type. The reason I like CF
Studio and Homesite is that they have the handy little code completion
things that drop down and you can hit enter or keep typing without them
slowing you down or changing stuff without you. But I get so sick of all
of this over-automation.

I think I might sound like an old man here, but I can easily picture
this product coming out, installing it and then screaming at the top of
my lungs because it won't leave me alone.

ME: Don't change that code please.

HAL: I'm going to change it Ken.

ME: Please Hal, I want it that way.

HAL: I'm going to change it Ken.

ME: Hal, I want it written that way!

HAL: I was developed to be your superior. I'll make the decisions on
what code gets written and where.

ME: If you touch that F*%KING code Hal, I'm going to rip out your power
cord.

HAL: If you touch my power cord, I'll format the hard-drive, Ken. 

ME...

HAL...

ME...

You see what I mean? We'd all end up smashing our computers with large
sledgehammers and moving to Idaho to live in the woods.

Who was it that suggested a felt-tip pen...? I think that was the best
idea so far.

Ferg



  _  

From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)

>So the question isn't whether or not to have tools, but what sort of
tools
>will they be?

Personally I'd like a tool that can "fill in the blanks" on simple
coding tasks. Templates and wizards help to some extent, but I'd like
something smart enough to go back and fix my mistakes, add missing
parameters, that sort of thing. 

For instance, I wrote a little function on the list not to long ago, and
I used _javascript_ notation for a loop in cfscript. I want an editor that
is smart enough to not only tell me that's wrong but to suggest changes
or even fix code automatically and highlight the changes. This is
functionally no different than a spelling and grammar checker in a word
processor. 

Of course, what I'd really like is an editor that wrote code for me so I
could tell it what I want and have it produce all the code. It should
understand my voice over the cellphone- that way I can spend more time
at the beach. ;-) OK, maybe that's a little tongue in cheek but
ultimately I don't see why not. 

In fact, once a system becomes that sophisticated you can just cut out
the editor completely and talk directly to the application server. You
can call your CF application server using VoIP and just tell it what you
want it to build. Voice could be augmented by other forms of input-
text, binary file input. CF Server Enterprise, Voice-Enabled Edition.
Now that's RAD.

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RE: solutions for code resuse inside the tags ...

2004-07-16 Thread Pascal Peters
Yes it is compatible

Pascal

> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Farmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 July 2004 20:26
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: solutions for code resuse inside the  tags ...
> 
> Thanks Dave, I did think about using , was
> wondering if that was compatible under CF 5
>
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RE: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Ciliotta, Mario
Is anyone getting dupicate posting???

 
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

Then isn't it time for a Baghdad Cold Fusion Users Group? You are slow off the
ball.

Good luck, come back safe and thank you.

Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 11:02AM >>>
Speaking of that, this will be my second time there. I too was in the first
war. 
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Re: solutions for code resuse inside the tags ...

2004-07-16 Thread Daniel Farmer
Thanks Dave, I did think about using , was wondering if that was compatible under CF 5

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Watts 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:35 PM
  Subject: RE: solutions for code resuse inside the  tags ...

  > When setting the error types to "validation" and "request" 
  > what options are there as far as code reuse are available?
  >
  > What solutions or workarounds are out there?

  I'm not sure exactly what you mean by code reuse in this context. When you
  specify an error page using CFERROR with types VALIDATION or REQUEST, those
  pages can't have any server-side code in them. However, they can be invoked
  by any page within your application that encounters those error types.

  You can also use client-side code in those pages, such as _javascript_. Years
  ago, we used to use _javascript_ to capture error variables and redirect the
  error to another server-side script which could then do something with that
  error data. Of course, this is a relatively fragile thing to implement, and
  we don't bother with that sort of thing any more.

  Nowadays, if you want to execute server-side code in response to an error,
  use TYPE="EXCEPTION" and/or the site-wide error handler. The REQUEST error
  page should be the error handler of last resort, only being used if all your
  other error handlers have failed. The VALIDATION error page should only be
  used if you're using the built-in server-side validation rules, which I
  would recommend that you not use in any case - it's not really server-side
  validation, and isn't reliable for validation for security's sake.

  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: Session time out[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Ken Ferguson
http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=108&count=5272&tot=2&pa
ge=2
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Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)

2004-07-16 Thread Joe Eugene
It would be really nice to see a comprehensive session on build large
Enterprise applications(ERP)
using MVC's and concern/questions on strong implementations.

I am thinking MAX 2004 might just be more of Trade show for Macromedia
Products.

> I might end up at CF_UNDERGROUND

What is CF_UNDERGROUND about?

Thanks
Joe

- Original Message - 
From: "Sandy Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)

> Hal told me he is actually speaking at MAX this year. ON CFC's so he will
be
> there.
>
> I might end up at CF_UNDERGROUND before the conference, but not at MAX
> itself.
>
> Sandy
>
>   _
>
> From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:31 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
>
>
> > Anybody planning to do a session on MVC's(Mach-ii, other) for MAX 2004.
>
> If it isn't on the topic list, then it isn't scheduled... Or are you
> talking about something unofficial?
>
> > Sean/Hal Helms/Ben?
>
> I won't be at MAX. I don't believe Hal or Ben will be either. Fusebox
> 2004 is concentrating on Fusebox this year (sort of "duh!") although a
> Mach II course is planned to run immediately after the conference.
> It's not looking likely that I'll be at that conference either
> (although it's still under discussion). CFUN was "the" CF event for me
> this year... :)
>   _
>
>
>
>
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more old posts coming through

2004-07-16 Thread Bryan Stevenson
now they have [ENCRYPTED] appended to the subject lines

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Macromedia Associate Partner
www.macromedia.com
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Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
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Re: OT/flash question

2004-07-16 Thread Ben Doom
Caveats:  I'm not a flash programmer generally, and it's been months 
since I've done this, but

Sure.  Use  tags for the  version of the link, and 
include the params as part of the URL for the  (IIRC).  The 
parameters passed show up as global variables.

HTH.

--Ben

Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:

> quick flash question.  is there any way to supply (in flash 5 and up) a
> custom param tag when embedding in a web page, and use it in the
> actionscript of the flash.. for example, with a web banner, I want to be
> able to parametrically supply the click-through URL, etc...
> 
> 
> -dov
> 
> 
> 
> NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender.  Sender 
> does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited.
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Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Tony Weeg
good luck, thank you, and GODSPEED!

tw

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:24:04 -0500, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list.
> 
> Bruce Sorge
> 
>
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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Stacy Young
I'm more than willing to toss out a few bucks for solid all around support for CF in Eclipse. Will definitely be checking back when released!

Pls keep up the good work.
Stace


From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:16 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...

> I started to use Eclipse 3.0 (with CF plugin) and must say that I haven't
> opened up HS+ since.I installed and looked at He3 (strange choice of
> name...dunno what it has to do with a Helium Isotope...)
http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?data="">

and was not
> impressed for many reasons...firstly it will be a paid for install which
> considering its just mainly Eclipse there is nothing to entice me
> their
He3 is not a paid for install; it is freely available from our web site,
while it is in beta. When it is released there will continue to be a free
edition.

> It also doesn't have anywhere near the features that CFEclipse has (at
> present).
At present, the public beta has less CFML-specific functionality than
CFEclipse. However, remember that the currently available version of He3 is
0.7.4, while CFEclipse is at 1.1.14. Those version numbers should imply the
difference in maturity. It's hard to compare something in beta to an actual
release, so I hope you will hold off your judgment until we are done.

> I find Eclipse works very well when you have tweaked a few things like
> Memory management.I am not sure the whole He3 v CFEclipse is and
> argument
> which should be geared toward the best IDE as they are both plugins to the
> actual Eclipse project itself.and I think that no one can really argue
> that at present the latter is the better choice - certainly from a feature
> perspective.
>
Just to clarify here, He3 is an IDE and not a plugin. Technically, He3 is
implemented as a set of plugins for Eclipse, but then again Eclipse itself
is implemented as a set of plugins for Eclipse. I mean you wouldn't call
CFMX a Java class just because it is implemented as a set of Java classes.

Anyway, the real point here is that CFEclipse --as I understand it-- aims to
provide CFML support for Eclipse. This is different than He3 in which we aim
to provide an IDE for CFML development. CFML development includes more than
just CFML; it also includes HTML, SQL, JS, CSS, XML, Fusebox, Mach-II, etc.

-Matt
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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Spike
Hi Ray,

There are a few options depending on what you are trying to achieve...

First, you can set the root URL for a project by right-clicking on the
project, choosing properties and going to the cfeclipse section.

Once you've done that, the internal browser home button will always take you
to the root URL for the project of the file you currently have open in the
editor. The default project home URL is set to the Macromedia livedocs since
that's likely to be a useful place for a lot of people.

Once you've got the browser set to the right URL, you can reload the page in
the internal browser by hitting F5.

It would probably make sense to have a F12 shortcut to launch the current
file in the internal browser, but no-one has requested that in the Issue
Tracker as far as I'm aware.

For my part, the majority of projects I work with have a single entry point
such as index.cfm, so I only need to use the home button and F5.

If that doesn't get you going, it would probably be worth going over to the
cfeclipse site and joining the cfeclipse users list. That's probably a more
appropriate place for this type of discussion.

If you don't fancy joining yet another mailing list I'm happy to field
questions directly.

Spike


Stephen Milligan
Code poet for hire
http://www.spike.org.uk

Do you cfeclipse? http://cfeclipse.tigris.org 


>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Champagne
>Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 7:36 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
>
>I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as 
>speed, DW is 
>beat down bad by CFEclipse.  However, right now I find the whole thing 
>rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been 
>trying to figure 
>out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in 
>Eclipse.  Of 
>course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get 
>used to a new 
>program
>
>Ray
>
>
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Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Sean Corfield
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:59:33 -0700, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He did say that CFEclipse was slow

No, I didn't. Spike is correct - the issue was a very specific
CFEclipse bug that they've already fixed in CVS.

[2 windows]
> Pretty standard way of doing things on the Mac (at least for me).

I generally prefer the tabbed approach but with Expose it makes very
little difference these days. Firefox and He3 / Eclipse are two
programs I have open all the time and they both use the tabbed
approach.

> Seriously, I have 3 active browsers, (FireFox, Mozilla and Safari) each 
> with several windows  Safari currently has 17 windows.

I'd say that's a little extreme even for a hardcore Machead and it's
very different to how Windows users work (i.e., most everyone on this
list and hence in this thread!).
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RE: HELP! Forgot cfadmin password[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Scott Bennett
The coldfusion admin and rds password is stored in 
c:\cfusionmx)>\lib\password.properties

The format is:

#Fri May 21 15:32:19 PDT 2004
rdspassword='-$["5W+Z4P  \n
password=,6]8*RI* AQ>?T@&C\n
encrypted=true

To reset the password delete rdspassword and password values and set
encrypted to false
  -Original Message-
  From: Eric Creese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:11 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: HELP! Forgot cfadmin password

  cfmx. so what do I need to do?
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Paypal API[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Scott Bennett
Has anyone ever used coldfusion to consume the paypal webservice/api? I am
having trouble figuring out how to pass the client cert Paypal provides
along with the request.

Thanks,
Scott
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Re: XML/XSLT to write typical CF Form page[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Rob
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:27:23 -0600, Jon Gunnip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob,
> 
> Could you explain why you are creating an XSD from XML?  I thought
> XSD's were for validation (like a DTD, but more powerful).  Are you
> using the XSD to validate a form submission?

Yeah, in the end it'll create _javascript_ to vaidate numbers vs text -
that parts far off though. Plus if it didnt go to the xsd I would need
an intermedate step to describe which is a text box and which is a
radio button so I figured I might as well go with a standard.

> I would like to use XML/XSLT as a .cfm page builder.  The XSLT will
> write my cfquery's, cfif's, and forms.  Is that what you are doing,
> too?

Yeah I have 2 things I am working on one is the form generation thing
and the other is an XSLT that'll take a XMI (a uml exported diagram in
xml) and make CFCs out of it.  So I am doing that but in a bit of a
round about way.

> I guess another option is to use cfm to build an XML doc that describes
> the "state" of the request (Filter, Save, Delete, ..) and the data in
> the form and use XSLT just to do the form display.
> 
> The tricky part is that I want the same XSLT to work for lots of
> different forms,

Thats why I went with the XSD step :)

I gotta actually work now my boss is given me the evil eye - I'll send
you the sheets to play with - note they are not done

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Re: XML/XSLT to write typical CF Form page[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Rob
On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:34:10 -0600, Jon Gunnip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was thinking I could describe the structure in XML and then use XSLT
> to write my 400-1000 line CFM page.  Then I could cfinclude the result.
> It would be great is someone out there has already defined a nice DTD
> for doing this.
> 
> Anyone doing anything like this?

Yeah, I am working on a project that does that. Actually it takes and
XML document makes an XSD out of it then uses the XSD+XSLT to make
form elements so what you are saying it totally possible.  The only
code that I could share with you is XSD+XSLT->form elements though,
which I dont think is what you want. If you'd like to see the code let
me know and I'll send it to you.

Cheers,
Rob

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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Ray Champagne
I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as speed, DW is 
beat down bad by CFEclipse.  However, right now I find the whole thing 
rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been trying to figure 
out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in Eclipse.  Of 
course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get used to a new 
program

Ray

At 11:29 AM 7/15/2004, Marlon Moyer wrote:
>What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dick Applebaum
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> >
> > So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse:
> >
> > 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the pages
> > are stuck together
> > 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are wearing
> > mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard
> >
> > ... It just feels slow!
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Ray Champagne
good luck over there man, and we look forward to seeing you get back as 
soon as possible!

Ray

At 10:24 AM 7/15/2004, you wrote:
>Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a 
>lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have 
>just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am 
>heading out next month for training and then should be in country around 
>January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look 
>forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list.
>
>Bruce Sorge
>
>
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Re: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Phill B
I had the same thing happen to me with an earlier version. I tried
every thing you did. Their tech support couldn't figure it out either.
I gave up and wrote off the purchase as lesson learned.

Phillip B.

- Original Message -
From: Tony Weeg 

heres what i did.

1. uninstall.
2. it removed the .cfm/.htm/.html mappings itself
3. i reinstalled cfmx to see if it would RESET the mappings, etcNO DICE

tonight, ill uninstall EVERYTHING, and start over.

i should have known this might happen.  damn, this sucks.

tw
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jrunfilter in iPlanet/Sun One obj.conf[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Mike Chabot
(My initial post did not seem to make it)

Does anyone know what the following line accomplishes in obj.conf in a Sun One/iPlanet Web server?

NameTrans fn="jrunfilter" serverstore="C:/CFusionMX/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/jrunserver.store" bootstrap="127.0.0.1:51010"

Here is what I am trying to do. I want both CFMX and CF5 to be running on the same server, using the same URL and port. I want CFMX to run for only a single directory on an existing iPlanet server, and CF5 to handle all other directories. Adding the following lines to obj.conf hand over control to CFMX for a single directory:

ObjectType fn="type-by-exp" exp="D:/iPlanet/Servers/docs/cfmxtest/*.cf[m|c]" type="jrun-internal/"
Service method="(GET|POST)" type="jrun-internal/" fn="jrunservice"

This seems to work fine. However, the setup instruction indicate that the following are also needed in obj.conf

NameTrans fn="jrunfilter" serverstore="C:/CFusionMX/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/jrunserver.store" bootstrap="127.0.0.1:51010"


PathCheck fn="jrunfilter"
Service fn="jrunservice"


If the jrunfilter line is in obj.conf, CFMX takes over handling of all .cfm files on the entire server, regardless of the other settings in obj.conf. Without the jrunfilter line, the server seems to work the way I want it to.

The jrunfilter line seems to intercept all requests for .cfm, .cfc, .cfml, .jws, .jst, and .jsp files. The other lines in obj.conf related to CFMX seem to be completely unnecessary if the jrunfilter line is present. I was able to take out the lines:
ObjectType fn="type-by-exp" exp="*.cfm" type="jrun-internal/" and 
Service method="(GET|POST)" type="jrun-internal/" fn="jrunservice"
and the .cfm extension was handled fine by CFMX. I would guess that the jrunfilter line is slightly more efficient, since it is the first line in obj.conf. However, why would Macromedia say to include the ObjectType and Service lines in obj.conf if these are just going to be ignored? 

Does the combination of ObjectType and Service lines provide the same funcationality as the jrunfilter line? Does anyone know if this jrunfilter line is essential? Are there any other ways to do what I am trying to do?

Thank you,
Mike Chabot
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Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread mavinson
Bruce,

May you a safe and secure round-trip. I'll try to do my part and push for 
regime-change here at home -- and hopefully the 'gates of hell' will close 
as our belligerent country moves towards an exit strategy.

Peace,

Mike



"Bruce Sorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
07/15/2004 10:24 AM
Please respond to cf-talk

To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: 
Subject:WOT but important

Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a 
lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have 
just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am 
heading out next month for training and then should be in country around 
January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look 
forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this 
list.

Bruce Sorge
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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Marlon Moyer
What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit?

> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Applebaum 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> 
> So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse:
> 
> 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the pages
> are stuck together
> 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are wearing
> mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard
> 
> ... It just feels slow!
>
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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Marlon Moyer
I really like both He3 and CFEclipse, but the biggest issue I have is with
uploading files to a staging/production server.  I like being able to
highlight a file in DW and hit ctrl-shift-U and having it upload.  Very,
very simple.  Unfortunately, it sometimes takes 100% of the cpu though.  If
He3 or CFEclipse could incorporate something like that, I'd probably use it
a lot more often.  Oh, and I have checked out the FTP and WedDav plugin.
Besides being a bear to configure, I've still not been able to get it to do
exactly what I want.

Marlon

> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:36 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> 
> I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as speed, DW is
> beat down bad by CFEclipse.  However, right now I find the whole thing
> rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been trying to
> figure
> out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in Eclipse.  Of
> course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get used to a new
> program
> 
> Ray
> 
> 
> At 11:29 AM 7/15/2004, Marlon Moyer wrote:
> >What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit?
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dick Applebaum
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
> > >
> > > So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse:
> > >
> > > 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the
> pages
> > > are stuck together
> > > 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are
> wearing
> > > mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard
> > >
> > > ... It just feels slow!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
>
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Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Marco Antonio C. Santos
Great!! Looks very nice. Congratulations. Please keep me inside...

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:49:54 -0400, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Ben.  Please keep me posted on how it works, and what needs improvement.
> 
>
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XML/XSLT to write typical CF Form page[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Jon Gunnip
I have an app with 100 forms that are all very similar in structure:
1) filter on some heirarchy of properies on the left: e.g. Year ->
State -> City to find a paricular record
2) edit, delete, or add a new record on the right

I want to streamline the maintenance of writing these CF self-posting
form processing pages since the structure seems pretty consistent but
each form is between 400 and 1000 lines of CF/HTML.  

I was thinking I could describe the structure in XML and then use XSLT
to write my 400-1000 line CFM page.  Then I could cfinclude the result. 
It would be great is someone out there has already defined a nice DTD
for doing this.

Anyone doing anything like this?

Jon
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Re: BlueDragon.NET Technology Preview Release[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Damien McKenna wrote:
> On Jul 15, 2004, at 12:57 PM, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
>> 
>> BD.NET uses ADO.NET for all database access. I'm not sure what you 
>> mean by going "straight to ODBC".
> 
> To connect to an ODBC source using ColdfusionMX you do this:
> 
> cfquery -> JDBC -> ODBC

cfquery -> JDBC -> ODBC -> database

That is correct for an ODBC datasource. But if you have a native 
JDBC driver it becomes:
cfquery -> JDBC -> database

You can cut out the additional layer. That is why ODBC 
datasources should only be used as a last resort.

> Given that .NET is Java-based

It isn't.

> I presume it does something similar.

It can do something similar, but why would you want that? Just 
like with CF it would only introduce an additional layer with 
additional bugs and additional overhead:
NET -> ADO.NET -> ODBC -> database

Use the native ADO.NET drivers where available:
NET -> ADO.NET -> database

Jochem
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Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Joe Rinehart
Damien,

Sorry, should've been more clear - meaning your implementation doesn't
require you to do any CSS or _javascript_.  They're all powered by
various uses of _javascript_, with functions being kept local to each
instance to not avoid conflicts.

-joe

- Original Message -
From: Damien McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 12:20:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Jul 15, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote:

> Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required.

Looking at the demos, they're all JS??

-- 

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Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Joe Rinehart
S.,

No worries - this is a community forum, and part of the reason I
posted was a hunt for criticism.

I'll be the first to say the modules in onTap are more powerful - I
looked into them when I started developing my tags as an alternative
to having to write my own.

They're just done with different goals in mind because they were
developed to meet different needs.  Basically, I needed a tabset that
some non-developers who can understand basic HTML could use, and I
realized I could use the same stuff to make a few other things.

To all:  I always think you should use the right tool for the job - if
onTap is right for you, please use it. I will if I need to :).

Thanks for the tip on createUuid() - I've read the technote, but tend
to forget and still use it.  I'll probably change things over to a
random number.

-Joe

- Original Message -
From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:06:32 -0400
Subject: Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Hi All,

> I've been developing a series of custom tags

> ("jComponents") that

> provide tab navigation, trees, and accordian panes (plus a

> utility

> "box" that shows/hides content).

> URL:  http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.j

> Components

Hey Joe -- sorry if it seems like I was trying to steal your

limelight, I wasn't... quick question - I was looking at the output

and it looks like you're using createuuid() to generate the id's for

the various widget elements. Is that correct? If so, you might want to

think about trying to use something else because CreateUUID() can

cause Windows system clocks to accelerate due to an underlying bug in

the JVM.

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/createuuid_c

lock_speed.htm

Fairly annoying -- I had to deal with the same issue at one point and

created a couple of alternative functions to deal with it.

Anyway, I thought you'd like to know.



s. isaac dealey   954.927.5117

new epoch : isn't it time for a change?

add features without fixtures with

the onTap open source framework

http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1
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Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Joe Rinehart
Thanks Ben.  Please keep me posted on how it works, and what needs improvement.
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Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Joe Rinehart
Hi All,

I've been developing a series of custom tags ("jComponents") that
provide tab navigation, trees, and accordian panes (plus a utility
"box" that shows/hides content).

URL:  http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.jComponents

Info:

Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required.  They nest
and play well with others.

Currently released in a "Beta'" format.  If anyone finds them useful,
please send feedback, as I'd like to move to a 1.0.

I plan to keep them forever free of charge for any type of use, but am
undecided as to open sourcing.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Joe Rinehart
LOL - your attachment didn't come through?  If anyone else has this
problem, please let me know.

I'll e-mail off-list with a link to get it directly.

-joe
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Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Jerry Johnson
Then isn't it time for a Baghdad Cold Fusion Users Group? You are slow off the ball.

Good luck, come back safe and thank you.

Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/04 11:02AM >>>
Speaking of that, this will be my second time there. I too was in the first war.
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Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Jason L. West, Sr.
Man I am loving this "Flame War".  I wanted to respond to this 
particular post because it seems Sean has caught the most heat for his 
opinion on the products whether they are bias or not.

I had some issues getting first setup with the He3, I had been forced to 
use the Eclipse plugin install method instead of the ".exe" install. 
(Which was not easy as well)  Seems the installer is having issues 
finding the Java that I have installed on my Win XP.  Oh well, all for 
the best.

With that said, I also have the latest version of CFEclipse installed. 
That's right, both He3 and CFEclipse are complimenting each other with 
different features.  For instance I use the Perspectives and MachII 
editor of He3 while editing my CFC and CFM files in the CFE.  The 
insight for the tags is pulled from CFE.

So if any one wants to download a zipped up version of what I got to use 
as their IDE please drop me an email and I will provide a way for you to 
download it.

FAMOUS LINE

"Can't we all just get along?"  LOL

Thanks,

Jason L. West, Sr.
Internet Application Specialist, Sr.

Sean Corfield wrote on 7/15/2004, 02:02:

 > > Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective.
 >
 > That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why
 > I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the
 > default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar
 > with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at
 > first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments:
 >
 > "OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the
 > workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC
 > methods view."
 >
 > > That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you
 > > want - making it a "cleaner" (read less work put into it) interface.
 >
 > Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's
 > obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how
 > to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes,
 > I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE
 > behaves out of the box vs how He3 behaves out of the box - CFE relies
 > on users knowing a fair bit about Eclipse, He3 doesn't (or at least
 > doesn't rely as much on it). A lot of CFers who've tried Eclipse say
 > they don't like how complex it is (or appears to be) - it definitely
 > takes some getting used to.
 >
 > > CFEclipse has preferences - it always has.
 >
 > Again, read the comments where Spike points out how to find the CFE
 > prefs and I respond "Preferences. Thanx. I was looking for a dedicated
 > CFEclipse preference section (like He3 has) so I didn't notice that. I
 > can now set the insight delay to match what I have on He3!". It's
 > another Eclipse complexity that is just easier to find in He3.
 >
 > > Again this is silly - it's one line of code - a good thing about cfe
 > > is that it does number coloring?! Do you even write cf code Sean?
 >
 > Er, yeah, quite a bit actually... So even when I praise CFE (it's
 > color-coding is better than He3's) I still get flamed? The comparison
 > needs revisiting when He3 have fixed their color-coding of course but
 > right now it's much easier to read code in CFE.
 >
 > > There are key bindings that go with those that, of course, but you
 > > didn't even look for them (because they are with all the other key
 > > bindings in Eclipse)
 >
 > Right, so not knowing Eclipse, I wouldn't know where to look - if CFE
 > had all its prefs in one place in a separate prefs group, I'd probably
 > have found that and been happier. Having said that, I don't use
 > shortcuts for snippets anyway in DW (set it up, tried it, found I was
 > still usually quicker at just typing code instead of typing a mixture
 > of code and special keystrokes... years of writing code with 'vi' is
 > to blame for that I suspect).
 >
 > > date inserter that inserts the date to where your cursor is in the file
 >
 > Er, I never insert the date into a file... Why would I need to?
 >
 > > Can anyone say re-invent the wheel? There are at least 2 other plug
 > > ins for eclipse that do just that.
 >
 > Ease of use - He3 bundles a bunch of useful stuff that works well
 > together whereas you're recommending that I spend time locating
 > plugins and evaluating them to see which one suits me best. Again,
 > it's the Eclipse-is-complex-and-I-need-to-learn-it-to-be-productive
 > thing. If I can be productive without spending a lot of time and
 > effort 'building' my IDE, I'm going to be happier.
 >
 > > So you advocate duplication of effort - grand.
 > > You really like that the *CFML* focused he3 authors spend their
 > > time making regex views - okey dokey.
 >
 > I don't care if *they* have to duplicate effort if it helps me expend
 > less effort. I don't want my IDE to be a pain to set up right and I
 > don't want to have to go out to a bunch of sites and review endless
 > extensions etc jus

Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Jason L. West, Sr.
To All:

Man I am loving this "Flame War".  I wanted to respond to this
particular post because it seems Sean has caught the most heat for his
opinion on the products whether they are bias or not.

I had some issues getting first setup with the He3, I had been forced to
use the Eclipse plugin install method instead of the ".exe" install.
(Which was not easy as well)  Seems the installer is having issues
finding the Java that I have installed on my Win XP.  Oh well, all for
the best.

With that said, I also have the latest version of CFEclipse installed.
That's right, both He3 and CFEclipse are complimenting each other with
different features.  For instance I use the Perspectives and MachII
editor of He3 while editing my CFC and CFM files in the CFE.  The
insight for the tags is pulled from CFE.

So if any one wants to download a zipped up version of what I got to use
as their IDE please drop me an email and I will provide a way for you to
download it.

FAMOUS LINE

"Can't we all just get along?"  LOL

Thanks,

Jason L. West, Sr.
Internet Application Specialist, Sr.

Sean Corfield wrote on 7/15/2004, 02:02:

 > > Wrong. CFE has always had a cfml perspective.
 >
 > That was pointed out in the comments on that blog entry (which is why
 > I specifically mentioned the comments were interesting). It isn't the
 > default perspective after installing CFE and, unless you're familiar
 > with the way Eclipse works, it isn't obvious how to change that at
 > first. Quoting from one of my posts in the comments:
 >
 > "OK, I found the CFML perspective in CFEclipse. Yes, that makes the
 > workspace much better since it surfaces the snip tree view and the CFC
 > methods view."
 >
 > > That is just plain non-sense. First you can just close the view if you
 > > want - making it a "cleaner" (read less work put into it) interface.
 >
 > Again, assuming you are familiar enough with how Eclipse works. It's
 > obvious how to minimize / maximize views but not obvious at first how
 > to makes views go away altogether (or how to restore them later). Yes,
 > I figured it out after a while but this all goes to how Eclipse + CFE
 >   HAD TO TRIM THIS SO MY MESSAGE COULD POST ... 
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Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Jason L. West, Sr.
You are in my prayers and I wish you good luck.  This comes from a 
veteran of the Persian Gulf War.

God Bless,

Jason L. West, Sr.

Bruce Sorge wrote on 7/15/2004, 10:24:

 > Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have
 > learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while
 > since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national
 > guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should
 > be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer
 > my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great
 > tips and tricks from this list.
 >
 > Bruce Sorge
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RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Guy Rish
Dick,

We would be happy to discuss your ideas for file management.  
Though perhaps this line of discussion might be more appropriate on the He3
list (also hosted at HoF).

rish

-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...

On Jul 15, 2004, at 6:15 AM, Matt Liotta wrote:

> This is different than He3 in which we aim
>  to provide an IDE for CFML development. CFML development includes  
> more than
>  just CFML; it also includes HTML, SQL, JS, CSS, XML, Fusebox,  
> Mach-II, etc.

Mmmm... How do you plan to handle the creation/interaction of Java  
classes and CFCs, CFMs.

For example, consider your CF JAI tutorial/example.

 
http://www.evolt.org/article/Image_Manipulation_with_CFMX_and_JAI/18/ 
33907/

  I experimented for a while, then finally set up 2 projects:

1) a Java Project with the source/class (.project) files being stored  
in: /pathtoServer/cfusion/WEB-INF/classes/

2) The CFCs and CFMs in a CFE project folder at:  
/pathtoServer/cfusion/CFJavaImageUtils/

This seems kind of kludgey, but I don't need to fiddle with classpaths,  
etc. and everything runs where Eclipse saves it.

Does He3 do anything to integrate this in a mor natural way?

Actually, what I (and prolly a lot of others) really want to do is have  
all my CFM, CFC, java, class files (and PHP & HTML, for that matter, in  
a directory structure totally isolated from Apache webroot or cfroot.

That way a single code set could be used from:

1) multiple instances of CFMX
2) mutiple instances of BD
3) Apache, where applicable

Any ideas for how to do that?

TIA

Dick
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Re: Coldfusion Web Image Editor[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Doug Hughes
I wanted to say that two of my products, the Alagad Image Component
and the now deprecated MagicTag were mentioned here.  Please let me
know if I can answer any questions on these products.

The site for both of these is http://www.alagad.com.  I can also be
reached via the contact us form on that site.

Thanks,

Doug Hughes
President, Alagad Inc
http://www.alagad.com

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 13:25:48 -0400, Benjamin Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.cfxtras.com/SalesComponentDetail.cfx?componentid=104
> 
> ben
> 
>   _
> 
> From: Ryan Mannion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:24 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Coldfusion Web Image Editor
> 
> 
> Doest anyone know of a image editor that can be used in a webpage,
> preferably not a java applet etc. It does not have to be the
> "photoshop" of web browsers, but resize, crop etc would be great. The
> cheapest, or free would be best like always!
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Ryan
> 
>   _
> 
>
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Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
Ditto!

On Jul 15, 2004, at 7:27 AM, Ray Champagne wrote:

> good luck over there man, and we look forward to seeing you get back as
>  soon as possible!
>
>  Ray
>
>  At 10:24 AM 7/15/2004, you wrote:
>  >Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have 
> learned a
>  >lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I 
> have
>  >just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. 
> I am
>  >heading out next month for training and then should be in country 
> around
>  >January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I 
> look
>  >forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from 
> this list.
>  >
>  >Bruce Sorge
>
"Every person takes the limits of their own field of vision for the 
limits of the world."
- Arthur Schopenhauer -
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Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
Looks good!

But nothing downloaded.

Such a tease

Dick

On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:19 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>  I've been developing a series of custom tags ("jComponents") that
>  provide tab navigation, trees, and accordian panes (plus a utility
>  "box" that shows/hides content).
>
>  URL:http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.jComponents
>
>  Info:
>
>  Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required.They nest
>  and play well with others.
>
>  Currently released in a "Beta'" format.If anyone finds them useful,
>  please send feedback, as I'd like to move to a 1.0.
>
>  I plan to keep them forever free of charge for any type of use, but am
>  undecided as to open sourcing.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Joe
>
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Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
Some more random comments to the many posts on this thread.

Rob pointed out that Eclipse is slow on the Mac (in comparison to other 
Mac Java apps) because IBM wrote Eclipse using its own SWT toolkit, 
rather than the standard stuff from Sun.  Apple optimized much of Sun's 
Java GUI stuff for the Mac OS and Quartz display layer, then gave the 
modifications back to Sun. Eclipse doesn't use the optimized Java code.

Rob also pointed out in Eclipse on other platforms you can break off 
portions of the Eclipse window and have them appear in separate windows 
on the desktop -- can't do this in the Mac implementation.

The play-for-pay vs free issue re He3 vs CFEclipse is an interesting 
one -- In many large enterprises, perceived value is often equated with 
price.

I wonder if many of the issues discussed are related to Eclipse, 
itself, rather than the plugins.

For example, here are 3 features that I really like from BBEdit that I 
haven't found in other editors, but likely should be implemented in the 
base Eclipse product.

1) Drag and drop a file or selection: within an Eclipse window; between 
Eclipse windows; From the file system to Eclipse; From another 
application to Eclipse; from Eclipse to another application.

For example, go to the file system tree display, select several files, 
D&D them to Eclipse -- and have each opened in a separate tab/window.

2) Add remove line numbers.  When referencing a snippet of code, say in 
a post to this list, it is useful to show line numbers so they can be 
referenced in the post.  You can display Line numbers in most editors, 
but they are generated for display and not part of he text.  BBEdit 
allows you to insert/remove line numbers in a selection of text.  For 
example:

  93   
access="remote" >
  94 
  95 SELECT * FROM Employees
  96 
  97 
  98 
  99 
100 
returnVariable="variables.thinArray" >
101   
value="#employeesSelect#" />
102   
value="EMP_ID,LASTNAME,FIRSTNAME,PHONE,DEPARTMENT,EMAIL" />
103   
104   
value=#arguments.startRow# />
105   
value=#arguments.numberOfRows# />
106 
107 
108   

3) Select/copy/paste/D&D a rectangular area of text.  for example, I 
can select the name parameter from lines 101 threw 105 and manipulate 
as a separate entity, as shown below:

name="queryName"
name="columnList"
name="separator"
name="startRow"
name="numberOfRows"

This may appear to be something that you'd never use, but you'd be 
surprised, how handy it is when:

a) Using existing code snippets to create a new app.  That's why my 
source code looks funny -- sure is easy to create, tho (you thought I 
was just anal).

b) Building CREATE TABLE/INSERT/UPDATE/SELECT statements for every 
column in a DB Table.

c) Building text files used to generate test data or Populate a db 
table.  Example: a portion of the data used to populate a Classified Ad 
Category database:

"","","","",""
"* Category","","","",""
"Announcements","","","",""
"Automotive","* Vehicle Type","","",""
"Automotive","Antique Cars","* Make","",""
"Automotive","Antique Cars","MG","* Model",""
"Automotive","Antique Cars","MG","TC",""
"Automotive","Antique Cars","MG","TD",""
"Automotive","Antique Cars","MG","TF",""
"Automotive","Antique Cars","Dusenberg","* Model",""
"Automotive","Antique Cars","Dusenberg","J",""
"Automotive","Antique Cars","Dusenberg","SJ",""
"Automotive","Auto Parts & Accessories","","",""
"Automotive","Boats-Motors & Supplies","","",""
"Automotive","Camper Shells","","",""
"Automotive","Campers & Travel Trailers","","",""
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","* Make","",""
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","* Model",""
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","CL",""
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Integra","* 
SubModel"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Integra","GS"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Integra","GSR"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Integra","L"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Integra","LS"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Integra","RS"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Integra","SE"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Integra","Type-R"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Legend","* SubModel"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Legend","GS"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Legend","L"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Legend","LS"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","Legend","SE"
"Automotive","Cars, SUVs, Trucks, Vans...","Acura","RL",""

d) illustrating an example, as I did in the above.

HTH

Dick
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Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
I had a trial DW, but it has expired.  I tried it for a while but it 
was just too involved & slow compared to BBEdit.

I wasn't doing any Java programming at the time, so I saw no need to 
change IDEs.

When I decided to learn Java, I decided to look for an IDE to ease the 
pain.  Eclipse looks like the best bet, so far.

BBEdit color-codes Java, and has a Glossary where you can get/write 
plugins (that's how CF is implemented).  There is a jsp plugin & I may 
get that.

I wanted to avoid fiddling with classpath, javac, etc. -- Eclipse does 
a pretty good job of that (once you figure it out).

Also, I have observed that Java apps tend to have a lot more components 
than procedural-language apps -- Eclipse does a pretty good job of 
managing them.

But, I am still learning Eclipse and have only scratched the surface.  
Since it is Java-oriented it should help guide me (gently prod or 
strong-arm) to good Java development habits,

That said, I haven't seen anything yet that Eclipse can do that BBEdit 
can't.

Once I learn how to do Java in Eclipse, I may revert to BBEdit.

BBEdit has built-in hooks for adding code completion, snippets, 
compile/execute scripts.  So It shouldn't be too difficult to make 
BBEdit do whatever the Eclipse IDE is doing (that I need to do.

As, I've mentioned previously, BBEdit, as an editor, is superior to the 
one(s) in Eclipse (or elsewhere, for that matter).

Dick


On Jul 15, 2004, at 8:36 AM, Ray Champagne wrote:

> I got curious and downloaded Eclipse this AM, and as far as speed, DW 
> is
>  beat down bad by CFEclipse.However, right now I find the whole thing
>  rather cumbersome, and for about an hour now I have been trying to 
> figure
>  out an equivalent to F12 (preview page in browser in DW) in 
> Eclipse.Of
>  course, this cumbersomeness is really just me trying to get used to a 
> new
>  program
>
>  Ray
>
>  At 11:29 AM 7/15/2004, Marlon Moyer wrote:
>  >What's DWMX 2004 performance like compared to eclipse/bbedit?
>  >
>  > > -Original Message-
>  > > From: Dick Applebaum
>  > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:35 PM
>  > > To: CF-Talk
>  > > Subject: Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
>  > >
>  > > So, because of what a Mac user is accustomed to, in Eclipse:
>  > >
>  > > 1) switching windows is like switching pages in a book when the 
> pages
>  > > are stuck together
>  > > 2) typing/selecting/manipulation of content feels like you are 
> wearing
>  > > mittens or have spilled a Diet Pepsi on the mouse keyboard
>  > >
>  > > ... It just feels slow!
>  > >
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Re: CFForm, CFInput, etc not xhtml compatible![ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Deanna Schneider
Woops, sorry, I didn't mean to have id in the label. I meant that to be
title (like you were doing). ID shouldn't be in the label - just the input.

- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Stewart"

> And I still get it wrong... :) I just checked with the
> webstandards.org website and they recommend:
>
> 
> 
> maxlength="" size="" name="txtFirstName" id="txtFirstName" value="">
>
> I'll settle for that unless there is a compelling argument for adding
> the ID attribute as well.
> I'll fix that up tomorrow some time, but thanks for the feedback!
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RE: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dave Watts
> heres what i did.
> 1. uninstall.
> 2. it removed the .cfm/.htm/.html mappings itself 3. i 
> reinstalled cfmx to see if it would RESET the mappings, 
> etcNO DICE
> 
> tonight, ill uninstall EVERYTHING, and start over.

Did you run the CFMX web server configuration utility?

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: 202-797-5496
fax: 202-797-5444
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RE: application data and jrun memory usage[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dave Watts
> Yesterday, as a test I deleted a big chunk of data from the 
> application scope of our app. This had no immediate effect on 
> memory usage but about 10-20 minutes later I noticed jrun's 
> memory usage drop about 100 megs. Is this due to the garbage 
> collection running? Does this seems correct? 
> Basically, what I want to know, is if jrun does release that 
> memory once data is deleted from the application scope.

Yes, this seems to match my experience with Java application servers on
Windows.

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RE: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dave Watts
> Most people are comfortable with the notion that CFML is a 
> RAD platform, while Java and .NET are not.

I suspect many .NET developers would not be comfortable with this notion,
actually.

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RE: BlueDragon.NET Technology Preview Release[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dave Watts
> BTW, for those who don't already know, .NET is Microsoft's 
> continuance of their Java fork. Their license precludes them 
> from calling it Java, but that's where it comes from.  

While there's some merit to what you say, I think it's a bit too much of an
oversimpification. A lot of the ideas implemented by the .NET Framework are
similar to those in Java, but they couldn't call it Java no matter what
their license says. It's not Java. It's not a continuance of a "Java fork".
Instead, it's a completely separate implementation of many of the best ideas
in Java.

> Heck, early releases of the .NET classes could be ran on a JVM.

I've never seen or heard of that, actually, but I suppose anything's
possible! However, while the .NET Framework and Java both have VMs, they're
different VMs.

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RE: OT: BlueDragon .NET uninstall[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dave Watts
> > Did you run the CFMX web server configuration utility?
>
> wont load.  i get a popup box, asking what to do with a .cfm 
> file. and yes, the mappings are there, and yes the xml file 
> knows the .cfm files are to be parsed by the cf servlet

When you say it "won't load", what exactly happens? Do you get an error
message about not being able to find a JVM or something like that?

If so, you can just run it from the command prompt like this:

cd \cfusionmx\lib
c:\cfusionmx\runtime\jre\bin\java.exe -jar wsconfig.jar

The file paths may be slightly off, but you should be able to figure out the
correct paths on your system.

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RE: jrunfilter in iPlanet/Sun One obj.conf[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Dave Watts
> Does anyone know what the following line accomplishes in 
> obj.conf in a Sun One/iPlanet Web server?
> 
> NameTrans fn="jrunfilter" 
> serverstore="C:/CFusionMX/runtime/lib/wsconfig/1/jrunserver.st
> ore" bootstrap="127.0.0.1:51010"

I'm no expert with iPlanet. However, I think that this enables an NSAPI
filter. It sounds to me like NSAPI behaves a bit like IIS's ISAPI. Within
ISAPI, you can have filters and extensions. Filters are run at the beginning
of the HTTP request processing pipeline, while extensions are run later on.
ISAPI extensions are mapped to specific file extensions, while filters are
processed for every request.

There's some CFMX functionality which requires this sort of filter - the
ability to run servlets and the Flash Remoting gateway. There may be other
functionality dependent on this, but I'm not aware of it.

> Here is what I am trying to do. I want both CFMX and CF5 to 
> be running on the same server, using the same URL and port. I 
> want CFMX to run for only a single directory on an existing 
> iPlanet server, and CF5 to handle all other directories. 
>
> ...
>
> If the jrunfilter line is in obj.conf, CFMX takes over 
> handling of all .cfm files on the entire server, regardless 
> of the other settings in obj.conf. Without the jrunfilter 
> line, the server seems to work the way I want it to.
> 
> The jrunfilter line seems to intercept all requests for .cfm, 
> .cfc, .cfml, .jws, .jst, and .jsp files. The other lines in 
> obj.conf related to CFMX seem to be completely unnecessary if 
> the jrunfilter line is present.
>
> ...
>
> However, why would Macromedia say to include the ObjectType and 
> Service lines in obj.conf if these are just going to be ignored? 
> 
> Does the combination of ObjectType and Service lines provide 
> the same funcationality as the jrunfilter line? Does anyone 
> know if this jrunfilter line is essential?

In my experience with IIS, I generally leave both the ISAPI filter and
extension enabled. However, it seems to work well enough with the filter
disabled and just the extension enabled, aside from the aforementioned
servlets and Flash Remoting stuff.

Honestly, I don't really know why (or whether) both are needed - the filter
seems like it would be sufficient. Perhaps it's just set up that way for
redundancy.

> Are there any other ways to do what I am trying to do?

Yes, there may be. One way you can configure CFMX is with a context root,
which basically limits the filter to only accepting requests that map to a
specific directory. When you install CFMX onto a J2EE server, you're asked
for a context root during the EAR/WAR creation process. You should be able
to specify the directory name as the context root, and CFMX should only then
process requests within that directory. I haven't specifically set CFMX up
this way with a CF 5 server, though, so this is conjecture on my part.

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Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Damien McKenna
On Jul 15, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote:
> Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required.

Looking at the demos, they're all JS??
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Re: BlueDragon.NET Technology Preview Release[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Damien McKenna
On Jul 15, 2004, at 12:57 PM, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> BD.NET uses ADO.NET for all database access. I'm not sure what you 
> mean by
> going "straight to ODBC".

To connect to an ODBC source using ColdfusionMX you do this:

cfquery -> JDBC -> ODBC

Given that .NET is Java-based, I presume it does something similar.
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Re: BlueDragon.NET Technology Preview Release[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Damien McKenna
On Jul 14, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Vince Bonfanti wrote:
> New Atlanta is pleased to announce the Technology Preview release of
> BlueDragon for the Microsoft .NET Framework,

Congrats Vince.

A (fairly rhetorical) question I have is whether BD.NET goes through 
the dotNET database drivers before hitting the ODBC system or go 
straight to ODBC?

BTW, for those who don't already know, .NET is Microsoft's continuance 
of their Java fork.  Their license precludes them from calling it Java, 
but that's where it comes from.  Heck, early releases of the .NET 
classes could be ran on a JVM.
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Re: ActivScan CFX Tag[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Claude Schneegans
>>It seems to me that the browser will be doing all the hard work

Exactly, and there shouldn't be any difference if it is sent to the browser by CF 5 or 6

>>all the server side will be doing is handling the file upload part...

Yes, and I don't see what could be not working anymore under CFMX.
For the least, it should not be that difficult to fix it.
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Session time out[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/Veridian IT Services
Hi all

I know I have seen threads about giving the user a warning that their
session is about to timeout and possibly giving them the option to reset the
timer, but I am not having any luck finding the threads in the archives.

any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Rodney
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Re: WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Speaking of that, this will be my second time there. I too was in the first war.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jason L. West, Sr. 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 9:55 AM
  Subject: Re: WOT but important

  You are in my prayers and I wish you good luck.  This comes from a 
  veteran of the Persian Gulf War.

  God Bless,

  Jason L. West, Sr.

  Bruce Sorge wrote on 7/15/2004, 10:24:

  > Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have
  > learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while
  > since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national
  > guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should
  > be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer
  > my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great
  > tips and tricks from this list.
  >
  > Bruce Sorge
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application data and jrun memory usage[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Brook Davies
Yesterday, as a test I deleted a big chunk of data from the application 
scope of our app. This had no immediate effect on memory usage but about 
10-20 minutes later I noticed jrun's memory usage drop about 100 megs. Is 
this due to the garbage collection running? Does this seems correct? 
Basically, what I want to know, is if jrun does release that memory once 
data is deleted from the application scope.

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WOT but important[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Bruce Sorge
Although I have not been a big contributor to this list, I have learned a lot from it. I will have to unsubscribe though for a while since I have just been told that I am going to Iraq with my national guard unit. I am heading out next month for training and then should be in country around January. Thanks to everyone who has helped answer my questions and I look forward to returning and getting more great tips and tricks from this list.

Bruce Sorge
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Re: Free Stuff: Tree, Tab, Accordian Pane Custom Tags[ENCRYPTED]

2004-07-16 Thread Ben Densmore
This is great Joe. I was just about to start rebuilding one of our
forms that has gotten unbelievably long and move it to a flash based
form so I can use the accordian for a multi step form. I will
definitely be playing around with this.

Ben

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 11:19:28 -0400, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I've been developing a series of custom tags ("jComponents") that
> provide tab navigation, trees, and accordian panes (plus a utility
> "box" that shows/hides content).
> 
> URL:  http://clearsoftware.net/clear/?template=downloads.jComponents
> 
> Info:
> 
> Implementation is all CF - no CSS or _javascript_ required.  They nest
> and play well with others.
> 
> Currently released in a "Beta'" format.  If anyone finds them useful,
> please send feedback, as I'd like to move to a 1.0.
> 
> I plan to keep them forever free of charge for any type of use, but am
> undecided as to open sourcing.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe
> 
>
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RE: cfmx hot fixes

2004-07-16 Thread Ian Skinner
I'd like to have one large updater that has these and then a small amount of patches/hot fixes after.

At Ben Forta's presentation to our local user group last month, he mentioned this as part of the outline of Macromedia's releases leading up to Blackstone.  He said that one of the items being worked on is a release for the current version of CFMX that would be a bundling of all the current hot fixes.  So hopefully you will get what you want "SOON" to paraphrase Ben.

Now a website dedicated to these ALA Microsoft's, especially the ability to know what hot fixes you have already installed, would be pretty nice.  I'm sure there are serious technical challenges to such a feature, but it would be really nice from my point of view.

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OT/flash question

2004-07-16 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
quick flash question.  is there any way to supply (in flash 5 and up) a
custom param tag when embedding in a web page, and use it in the
actionscript of the flash.. for example, with a web banner, I want to be
able to parametrically supply the click-through URL, etc...

 
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Example Request - Query Database from Flash and Return Result to Flash

2004-07-16 Thread Chuck Mason
Hi -

Do any of you know of a simple example of sending a value to a CFC - CFC 
queries the database (I know that part) for ID - and return the 
resulting ID back to flash (actionscript for obtaining this result). 

Thanks,
Chuck
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RE: solutions for code resuse inside the tags ...

2004-07-16 Thread Dave Watts
> When setting the error types to "validation" and "request" 
> what options are there as far as code reuse are available?
>
> What solutions or workarounds are out there?

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by code reuse in this context. When you
specify an error page using CFERROR with types VALIDATION or REQUEST, those
pages can't have any server-side code in them. However, they can be invoked
by any page within your application that encounters those error types.

You can also use client-side code in those pages, such as _javascript_. Years
ago, we used to use _javascript_ to capture error variables and redirect the
error to another server-side script which could then do something with that
error data. Of course, this is a relatively fragile thing to implement, and
we don't bother with that sort of thing any more.

Nowadays, if you want to execute server-side code in response to an error,
use TYPE="EXCEPTION" and/or the site-wide error handler. The REQUEST error
page should be the error handler of last resort, only being used if all your
other error handlers have failed. The VALIDATION error page should only be
used if you're using the built-in server-side validation rules, which I
would recommend that you not use in any case - it's not really server-side
validation, and isn't reliable for validation for security's sake.

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