Re: cfabort triggering onError function in Application.cfc

[Ariel Jakobovits]

aborts will trigger an error inside a cfc being called as a web service.

- Original Message 
From: Jake Pilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:06:18 PM
Subject: Re: cfabort triggering onError function in Application.cfc

An abort is an exception that is caught by the onError event handler. Whether 
this is a bug or a desired effect is debatable, but this does in fact happen. 
However it is easy enough to catch:


   
   
   
   ... do error handling
   


Voila!

Jake Pilgrim

>Since I
>> implemented the onError function in my Application.cfc the cfabort seems
>> to be triggering it.  Is this normal?  if so how do I work around this?
>
>I'm fairly certain cfabort doesn't trigger onError;  at least I haven't seen 
>that before.  You might have another error around the cfabort tag that is 
>causing onError to be triggered.  If you're in a dev environment, you could 
>comment out onError and cfabort for the moment and see exactly what error is 
>being generated.
>
>-- Josh



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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Ariel Jakobovits]

No, s/he is not, because web development is fun and CF web development is the 
best.

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On 6/12/07, Dave l wrote:
>
> One time i looked and there were lots of .net & php jobs around here but
> they averaged about $25 an hour for pay, whereas the cfm jobs averaged about
> $55 an hour.
>

So is a "decent" cf dev retarded to work for around $20 an hour, 90hrs a
week?

No no, don't answer, that was a trick question.  Or rhetorical, perhaps.
*sigh*

Yeah, this buddy of mine, you know... poor bastard...

least his retirement's only X years away... *sigh*

*sings:* Don't cry for my buddy, Argentina...

LOL.  Yeah, there's more to life than money.
I do rather like having a good bit of it tho...




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OT: My eyes, my eyes!

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Anyone downloaded and used the latest Safari for Windows beta yet?  Jeez the
text is like I am browsing underwater with the blurry text and all..

Off to see optician.


 
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Re: Short rant

[Mike Kear]

Hey Rick, I FOUND the DTS!!  It's back in the SQLserver Management
Studio, or else it was always there but i didnt see it.

It's not called DTS any more.

Right click on a database, and select task > import or task > export
and you'll go through pretty much the same process as the old EntMgr
DTS.  You can even save the code as a SSIS package.

You'll find it's not identical to the  stuff you used to use but pretty close.

Cheers
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On 6/13/07, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find SQL Server Management Studio to be tolerable for what I need to do.
>
> I hate the fact that they've done away with DTS packags and now you've
> got to build jobs with that frakking visual studio stuff.  I don't get
> that stuff at all.
>
> I ended up turning a couple of my jobs into SQL Agent jobs instead of
> SISS packages, since they were really very simple SQL execution stuff.
>
> Rick
>
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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Mike Kear]

It's a developers' market in Sydney right now.   All the recruiters i
speak to tell me they desperately need CF developers.  They'll pay top
dollar right now too.  I reckon the hourly rate for contractors has
gone up about $10/hour over what it was a year ago.

I have a contract at the moment, although I'm slacking off in the ICU
at WIndsor Hospital with cardiac problems,  but in the last 4 weeks I
would have had maybe 8 calls from recruiters looking for CF developers
specifically, and not flinching at all when I tell them that i'm busy
and can't look at their opportunity this time, but in any case they'll
need to up their offer to get someone good.

In fact my mobile rang this morning while a nurse was taking my blood
pressure and sticking a needle in my belly, with yet another recruiter
looking for a CF contractor in the Sydney CBD.  He was prepared to pay
about $50/hour so it's a good job.   I reckon he'll go higher too.

So the answer is like anything else - you gotta put in the legwork.
you have to go find people who have jobs to fill.   One way is to
travel all the job web sites,  get yourself on the mailing lists like
cfjobs,   call the recruiters till your voice is hoarse.

But as someone in this thread said earlier - you dont need 2335 jobs,
you only need 1.  It doesnt matter how many jobs there are, as long as
you get one of them.

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Re: FLV beneath web root

[Chris Tsongas]

I tried adding the .cfflv extension but my player still just turns and 
turns...would you mind providing more detail?  Here's the code I'm using:




Is your code that finally worked identical?  I'm using IIS 5 so there was no 
.flv mime type, would you mind specifying what you have for both .fla and 
.flv/.cfflv?

Also what player are you using?  I'm using:

 * SWFObject v1.5: Flash Player detection and embed - 
http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/
 *
 * SWFObject is (c) 2007 Geoff Stearns and is released under the MIT License:
 * http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[James Holmes]

I found Arjun's post on a loading message too:

http://mxajax.blogspot.com/2006/10/gmail-style-loading-message-with.html

On 6/13/07, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >param:"eval=22,"T7=" + t7sel ...etc
> >
> >you have a " after 22 - it should be
> >
> >param:"eval=22,T7=" + t7sel ...etc
>
> Ok thank you. I got it all straightened out. I don't have a lot of data to 
> play with yet, but you can see my demo in action here:
> http://208.106.220.252/soundings/T8Report.cfm
>
> Choose test eval 1 at the top. Then Business Technologies and Business 
> Administration.
>
> You can toggle between ITN and some of the others.
>
> >
> >If you set executeonload = false, which indeed is what I was getting
> >at, you need a few other things:
> >
> >1) Assign the mxAjax object to a variable:
> >
> >myMxData = new mxAjax.Data({
> >executeOnLoad:false, ...etc
> >
> >2) Instead of calling init() in the onchange of your selects, call
> >myMxData.execute()
>
>
> I'll give this a shot next!
>
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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Russ]

> Russ wrote:
> > Maybe someone should make a free/open source CF server.  That would
> probably
> > get more people using it.  Of course once you've invested this much time
> > into developing a product like that, it's hard not to start charging for
> it.
> > (Didn't CF5 and BlueDragon start out as free products?)
> 
> There are free and cheap engines out there.
> 
> Someone mentioned Smith already, there's also Railo's community edition
> (and their other editions are very reasonable too).

I haven't looked at these yet in depth, but are they compatible enough to be
useful?  I remember even BD having compatibility issues.  
> 
> BD has a free edition too - I don't recall CF5 ever being free though,
> unless it was some kind of upgrade promotion when Macromedia launched it
> post-Allaire?
> 
BD has a free edition, but it's pretty much useless as are the rest of their
J2EE editions.  The free edition doesn't support SSL and is not for
commercial use, which makes it useless for most projects.  The J2EE version
is around the same price or more expensive then Adobe's and doesn't really
provide any extra features, while not supporting many of Adobe's features.  

The only value I see in BD is if you want to run on the .NET platform.  It
probably also helps if you  need to use more then 2 GB of ram for your app
(Although I'm not sure how well .NET would run with that much memory being
used).  

As far as free CF5, I'm talking about the product Macromedia bought to make
CF5 (or 6), which I believe was tagfusion, which was the first, I believe,
CF clone that was created in Java. 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

>param:"eval=22,"T7=" + t7sel ...etc
>
>you have a " after 22 - it should be
>
>param:"eval=22,T7=" + t7sel ...etc

Ok thank you. I got it all straightened out. I don't have a lot of data to play 
with yet, but you can see my demo in action here: 
http://208.106.220.252/soundings/T8Report.cfm

Choose test eval 1 at the top. Then Business Technologies and Business 
Administration.

You can toggle between ITN and some of the others. 

>
>If you set executeonload = false, which indeed is what I was getting
>at, you need a few other things:
>
>1) Assign the mxAjax object to a variable:
>
>myMxData = new mxAjax.Data({
>executeOnLoad:false, ...etc
>
>2) Instead of calling init() in the onchange of your selects, call
>myMxData.execute()


I'll give this a shot next!

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[James Holmes]

param:"eval=22,"T7=" + t7sel ...etc

you have a " after 22 - it should be

param:"eval=22,T7=" + t7sel ...etc

If you set executeonload = false, which indeed is what I was getting
at, you need a few other things:

1) Assign the mxAjax object to a variable:

myMxData = new mxAjax.Data({
executeOnLoad:false, ...etc

2) Instead of calling init() in the onchange of your selects, call
myMxData.execute()

On 6/13/07, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >There is a loading message graphic thingy built in somewhere, as it's
> >part of some of the other controls (like autocomplete), but I can't
> >recall at the moment where it is. I'll try to dig it up and see if
> >there's a simple way to get it showing automatically for the mxData
> >tag.
>
> Yeah I think I remember seein somethin.
>
> I have up to 7 selects, all dynamic. So I'm making my JS variables/arguments 
> dynamic.
> Here's what it's building but I'm gettin an error.
>
> paramArgs: new mxAjax.Param(url,{param:"eval=22,"T7=" + t7sel + ",T6=" + 
> t6sel + ",T5=" + t5sel",cffunction:"getCourses"}), postFunction: handleData 
> });
>
> This is the error:
>
> missing } after property list
> [Break on this error] paramArgs: new mxAjax.Param(url,{param:"eval=22,"T7=" + 
> t7sel + ",T6=" + t6s...
>
> I'm guessing my arguments are being built wrong now.
>
>
> >
> >As for the 1 courses, if the people select ALL for each box, do
> >you want to give them all 1000 courses? Otherwise, we can set it up so
> >that it doesn't do a request immediately on page load and it will
> >start filtering after the first choice instead.
>
> Yeah I think that's a good idea. Do I just set executeOnLoad:false ?
>
> Thanks James!
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[James Holmes]

There is a loading message graphic thingy built in somewhere, as it's
part of some of the other controls (like autocomplete), but I can't
recall at the moment where it is. I'll try to dig it up and see if
there's a simple way to get it showing automatically for the mxData
tag.

As for the 1 courses, if the people select ALL for each box, do
you want to give them all 1000 courses? Otherwise, we can set it up so
that it doesn't do a request immediately on page load and it will
start filtering after the first choice instead.

On 6/13/07, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IT WORKS IT WORKS!!!
>
> Wooo!
>
> Man this is sweet as hell.
>
> I do got one more question. There's a possiblity there could be 100,000 
> courses it'll be filtering on. Could this get ugly?
>
> Is there a way to stick a loading thingee on there or somethin?

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The request has exceeded the allowable time limit

[Sung Woo]

For the life of me, I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.  Running CFMX7.0.2 
on Win2K:

I have a scheduled task that includes a bunch of other templates, updating a 
bunch of tables.  Anyway, I have the Timeout (sec) value in the Scheduled Task 
set at 7200.  That's 2 hours, right?  60 seconds * 60 minutes * 2 = 7200 
seconds.  On the scheduled task itself, I have this on top of it:



Yet this is the problem: I get this error at EXACTLY the 10 minute mark:

"The request has exceeded the allowable time limit"

Sometimes it's CFQUERY; other times it's CFFILE; whatever it hits at the 10 
minute mark is when this error is generated.

Which means that despite the requesttimeouts I have here, something else is 
overriding it and putting a hard limit of 60 seconds.  I do have FusionReactor 
on this box, but crash protection is not enabled, so it shouldn't be the cause. 
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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

IT WORKS IT WORKS!!! 

Wooo! 

Man this is sweet as hell. 

I do got one more question. There's a possiblity there could be 100,000 courses 
it'll be filtering on. Could this get ugly? 

Is there a way to stick a loading thingee on there or somethin? 

Thanks James! You rock! 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

>There is a loading message graphic thingy built in somewhere, as it's
>part of some of the other controls (like autocomplete), but I can't
>recall at the moment where it is. I'll try to dig it up and see if
>there's a simple way to get it showing automatically for the mxData
>tag.

Yeah I think I remember seein somethin. 

I have up to 7 selects, all dynamic. So I'm making my JS variables/arguments 
dynamic. 
Here's what it's building but I'm gettin an error.

paramArgs: new mxAjax.Param(url,{param:"eval=22,"T7=" + t7sel + ",T6=" + t6sel 
+ ",T5=" + t5sel",cffunction:"getCourses"}), postFunction: handleData }); 

This is the error:

missing } after property list
[Break on this error] paramArgs: new mxAjax.Param(url,{param:"eval=22,"T7=" + 
t7sel + ",T6=" + t6s...

I'm guessing my arguments are being built wrong now. 


>
>As for the 1 courses, if the people select ALL for each box, do
>you want to give them all 1000 courses? Otherwise, we can set it up so
>that it doesn't do a request immediately on page load and it will
>start filtering after the first choice instead.

Yeah I think that's a good idea. Do I just set executeOnLoad:false ?

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

Oh duh! You friggin TOLD me to stick some id's on those items. 

I'll try again to follow directions.  :)


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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

Firebug is showin an error:

document.getElementById("Tier7") has no properties
[Break on this error] var t7sel = document.getElementById("Tier7").value; 

It errored on the first one too - eval. I deleted that one and replaced it with 
my FORM.eval variable since that one was working anyway. 

That form element is in the document. hmmm...

Thanks,
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Re: The request has exceeded the allowable time limit

[Sung Woo]

> Which means that despite the requesttimeouts I have here, something 
> else is overriding it and putting a hard limit of 60 seconds.  I do 
> have FusionReactor on this box, but crash protection is not enabled, 
> so it shouldn't be the cause.  What is going on here?

Sorry, I meant a hard limit of 600 seconds, or 10 minutes.

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CFPOP

[Jenny]

Is this more reliable in CF 7?  it wasn't very stable in 6 

Anyone using it ?

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

> Will contact me off list and I'll see what I can do to help you out.
> 
> Rey
> 


Thanks Rey! Let me give James's solution a shot and see what happens. 
I really appreciate it.

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

>Oops, I missed a comma before T6; should have been:
>
>t7sel  + ",T6="
>
>On 6/13/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >

Thanks James, I'll try to give this a whirl tonight or first thing in the morn. 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[James Holmes]

Oops, I missed a comma before T6; should have been:

t7sel  + ",T6="

On 6/13/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Remember that CF only runs once to produce this page's content. the
> AJAX stuff runs as a separate page and returns info to the JavaScript
> runnning in your generated page. So only once will #FORM.Tier7# be
> written out into the page as far as CF is concerned - the rest needs
> to be done with JS.
>
> Firstly, I'd add IDs to the selects (match them to the names).
>
> Then, what you need is to do this:
>
> function init() {
> var evalsel = document.getElementById("eval").value;
> var t7sel = document.getElementById("Tier7").value;
> var t6sel = document.getElementById("Tier6").value;
> var t5sel = document.getElementById("Tier5").value;
> new mxAjax.Data({
> executeOnLoad:true,
> paramArgs: new mxAjax.Param(url,{param:"eval=" +  evalsel + ",T7=" +
> t7sel  + "T6=" + t6sel,cffunction:"getCourses"}),
> postFunction: handleData
> });
>
> There's a few other things I'd change too, but try that to get you started.
>
> On 6/13/07, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I just checked and it's doing exactly what you're asking it to: It's
> > > returning getCourses for eval=22,T7=All,T6=All each time the teir 7
> > > select is chosen. Now you just have to pass in the values from the
> > > selects instead of the hard wired values and you're set.
> >
> >
> > Ok, here's where I'm lost. lol!
> >
> > I set those variables to #FORM.Tier7#,#FORM.Tier6# etc.. etc.. Thinking the 
> > form was posting and it'd pickup on my cf variables. I guess it doesn't 
> > work like that? It's picking up my  for the form items.
> >
> > How do I get those selections into those mxAjax params?
> >
> > Thanks james!
> >
> > Will
> >
> > 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[James Holmes]

Remember that CF only runs once to produce this page's content. the
AJAX stuff runs as a separate page and returns info to the JavaScript
runnning in your generated page. So only once will #FORM.Tier7# be
written out into the page as far as CF is concerned - the rest needs
to be done with JS.

Firstly, I'd add IDs to the selects (match them to the names).

Then, what you need is to do this:

function init() {
var evalsel = document.getElementById("eval").value;
var t7sel = document.getElementById("Tier7").value;
var t6sel = document.getElementById("Tier6").value;
var t5sel = document.getElementById("Tier5").value;
new mxAjax.Data({
executeOnLoad:true,
paramArgs: new mxAjax.Param(url,{param:"eval=" +  evalsel + ",T7=" +
t7sel  + "T6=" + t6sel,cffunction:"getCourses"}),
postFunction: handleData
});

There's a few other things I'd change too, but try that to get you started.

On 6/13/07, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just checked and it's doing exactly what you're asking it to: It's
> > returning getCourses for eval=22,T7=All,T6=All each time the teir 7
> > select is chosen. Now you just have to pass in the values from the
> > selects instead of the hard wired values and you're set.
>
>
> Ok, here's where I'm lost. lol!
>
> I set those variables to #FORM.Tier7#,#FORM.Tier6# etc.. etc.. Thinking the 
> form was posting and it'd pickup on my cf variables. I guess it doesn't work 
> like that? It's picking up my  for the form items.
>
> How do I get those selections into those mxAjax params?
>
> Thanks james!
>
> Will
>
> 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Rey Bango]

Will contact me off list and I'll see what I can do to help you out.

Rey

Will Tomlinson wrote:
> Exactly Rey. Took me a while to figure out howta see all that with Firebug. 
> I've never done ajax before but this is so cool! 
> 
> I just dunno how to get my selection values INTO the ajax call. lol!
> 
> Thanks,
> Will
> 
> 

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RE: Server Cluster

[Dave Watts]

> One limitation on the number of jrun instances on windows is 
> the maximum limitation in jre of 1gb memory (from memory this 
> is the limit - could be more perhaps) allocation to Java. So 
> if each take 250mb of ram, then you are limited at 4 instances.

That limit is per-instance. Each instance runs within a separate JVM. So, if
you could allocate 4 GB of RAM to your instances, you could run 4 instances,
each with 1 GB.

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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Andrew Scott]

There was a Coldfusion Express very limited by Allaire did provide it.

You know thinking about it, what would the chances of Coldfusion becoming
plugin based? With that I mean that the Enterprise version does not change.
But the standard version minus all parts that contain paid licenses, be open
up as being free to use with no restrictions in production.

Then there could be a license fee to use parts / modules that are needed for
that application to work.

But the developer also remain the same, with maybe an increases to 10 IP
address limitation or something for a development environment with multiple
developers.

I know thinking out aloud.



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From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I love CF but it's not fair

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: I love CF but it's not fair
> 
> On 6/12/07, David Low  wrote:
> I don't recall CF5 ever being free though,

I remember there was TagFusion or something like that.  Basically was going
to be a free CF implementation in Java.  I believe CF bought it and used it
to create CF 5 (or 6).  

I'm not 100% on this, but I think that's what happened.  






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RE: OnEnter issues

[Andrew Scott]

Actually,

You are right, I am in a bad habit of intranet applications where the only
browser to be used is IE.

Under Mozilla products (Firefox etc..) you DO need to wrap the form tag for
rendering. I am not sure if this is true with V2.0 of firefox but you did
jog my memory on Netscape doing just that.

Sorry to maybe have mislead anyone on that...


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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OnEnter issues

On 6/12/07, Andrew Scott wrote:
>
> if it was me I would remove the form.
>
> Put the event onKeyUp="javascript:entermessage()" and then in the
> entermessage check that the key up was indeed return (enter = 13).
>
> Then you remove the need for the unwanted form tags.


I've got a habit, I think I picked it up from Netscape, of putting form
fields in form tags, because IIRC, it wouldn't render the form field
if it wasn't in one.

Probably something long past being needed, but with the DOM
being what it is, it's sometimes nice to have a wrapper for form
type stuff.

Also, if you do it right, you can have you your code gracefully degrade,
when someone isn't using javascript.  (probably not an issue in an
app that relies on AJAX ;-}).

I've got a 1 page example of some dojo JS that wraps a "normal"
site in dojo-gooey-ness (Including forms and img/img areas!).
I will share it for a million dollars in small unmarked bills. Or if asked.




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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

Exactly Rey. Took me a while to figure out howta see all that with Firebug. 
I've never done ajax before but this is so cool! 

I just dunno how to get my selection values INTO the ajax call. lol!

Thanks,
Will

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Rey Bango]

Yep, thats what I saw. If you look at the Generated Source, you'll see 
he's calling the init() method via the onChange with no params. It looks 
like qForms handles the dynamic dropdown creation and creates the 
onChange events for the dropdowns.

Rey...

James Holmes wrote:
> I just checked and it's doing exactly what you're asking it to: It's
> returning getCourses for eval=22,T7=All,T6=All each time the teir 7
> select is chosen. Now you just have to pass in the values from the
> selects instead of the hard wired values and you're set.
> 
> 
> On 6/13/07, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Just figured part of the problem out.
>>
>> Cranked up firebug. It's makin the ajax calls when you change the menu. It's 
>> just not posting the select value.
>>
>> hmmm...
>>
>>
> 
> 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

> I just checked and it's doing exactly what you're asking it to: It's
> returning getCourses for eval=22,T7=All,T6=All each time the teir 7
> select is chosen. Now you just have to pass in the values from the
> selects instead of the hard wired values and you're set.


Ok, here's where I'm lost. lol! 

I set those variables to #FORM.Tier7#,#FORM.Tier6# etc.. etc.. Thinking the 
form was posting and it'd pickup on my cf variables. I guess it doesn't work 
like that? It's picking up my  for the form items. 

How do I get those selections into those mxAjax params?

Thanks james!

Will

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Rey Bango]

Will,

If you spark up FireBug in FireFox, you'll see that your mxAjax init() 
method is being called via the onChange that was set by qForms and the 
Ajax call is also going out. It just doesn't seem to be receiving the 
value of the dropdown from the onChange.

The best way to see what's being generated after you click on "Test eval 
1" is to use FireFox's Web Developer extension and then view the 
Generated Source. That will show you what's been generated after the 
load including dynamically appended DOM components.

 From what I can tell, the init() method is never receiving any params 
and thus just repopulating the Course Filter dropdown with the same 
results all of the time. But the Ajax call is being made.

Rey...


Will Tomlinson wrote:
> http://208.106.220.252/soundings/T8Report.cfm
> 
> Select test eval 1.
> 
> When the page reloads you'll see mxAjax load up the course dropdown below the 
> organizational dropdowns. Change the Division drop down to some other value. 
> it doesn't do anything. 
> 
>  I can't figure out how to fire off the ajax again to repopulate the course 
> menu when the Division dropdown changes. qForms IS repopulating the 2nd menu 
> correctly, but I can't make it do the other at the same time. 
> 
> Any ideas anyone? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Will
> 
> 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[James Holmes]

I just checked and it's doing exactly what you're asking it to: It's
returning getCourses for eval=22,T7=All,T6=All each time the teir 7
select is chosen. Now you just have to pass in the values from the
selects instead of the hard wired values and you're set.


On 6/13/07, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just figured part of the problem out.
>
> Cranked up firebug. It's makin the ajax calls when you change the menu. It's 
> just not posting the select value.
>
> hmmm...
>
> 

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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Aaron Roberson]

When I was building a lot of websites for small companies (you know, those
$500 sites) I found that I had to learn PHP to get the job done and make a
little money. I no longer do any $500 sites, but when I have time to help
out a friend or church ministry with their website I am looking to Ruby on
Rails to get the job done quickly and inexpensively.

However, at my full-time job and a current contract I have with the Federal
Govt. I am using ColdFusion.

I wish more than anything that ColdFusion could be the answer to all my
needs, but it currently is not. The frustration, at times, makes me wish I
just stuck with one (probably RoR). Nonetheless, my love affair with CFML
has only just begun.

-Aaron

On 6/12/07, Dave l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "So is a "decent" cf dev retarded to work for around $20 an hour, 90hrs a
> week?"
>
> Yeah I'd say that!
>
> We have cfm jobs here that people dont want because they only pay $45 an
> hour.
>
> So fyi~ there seem to always be cfm job openings here in Colorado. many
> might not be advertised but at our cfug meetings there seem to be people
> asking for workers.
>
> 

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

Just figured part of the problem out. 

Cranked up firebug. It's makin the ajax calls when you change the menu. It's 
just not posting the select value. 

hmmm...

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Re: cfabort triggering onError function in Application.cfc

[Josh Nathanson]

> An abort is an exception that is caught by the onError event handler. 
> Whether this is a bug or a desired effect is debatable, but this does in 
> fact happen. However it is easy enough to catch:

Hmmm...very interesting indeed.  I just did a test, and cfabort did not seem 
to trigger onError...at least it didn't run the error handling code within 
the method...just a blank page as expected.  I need to investigate further.

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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Dave l]

"So is a "decent" cf dev retarded to work for around $20 an hour, 90hrs a week?"

Yeah I'd say that!

We have cfm jobs here that people dont want because they only pay $45 an hour.

So fyi~ there seem to always be cfm job openings here in Colorado. many might 
not be advertised but at our cfug meetings there seem to be people asking for 
workers.

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Dave l]

i know i dont have time to come here much but its too easy to spot which 
threads are yours.

>> cause its over your shiny head!! haha
>
>Dang, I was hopin you weren't trollin' round. lol! 
>
>I've actually about got it. Just needta figure this last part out.

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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

> cause its over your shiny head!! haha

Dang, I was hopin you weren't trollin' round. lol! 

I've actually about got it. Just needta figure this last part out. 

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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Will Swain]

Make it happen for yourself then. :) 

Most clients I speak to don't care too much about the technology - they care
about the price, and getting the functionality/stabilty they want. So, I
like CF, and it can always(*) do want they need, so no problem.

* more or less. 


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From: Ali Majdzadeh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 12 June 2007 21:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I love CF but it's not fair

Hi:
I was searching for job offers in Australia in here http://mycareer.com.au/
If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs which more than half
are not even only for CF developers and some are for other languages like
PHP or .NET. When I searched for PHP it came out with a few hundreds but
with .NET 2334 matching results!!! 
I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the search
engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should have
such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA but it
seems the same thing is true in the USA to.
You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't
migrate it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we
started with PHP or .Net at the begining now we were more and better
employed than now.
Please write your opinions.
Thanks
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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Dinner]

On 6/12/07, Dave l wrote:
>
> One time i looked and there were lots of .net & php jobs around here but
> they averaged about $25 an hour for pay, whereas the cfm jobs averaged about
> $55 an hour.
>

So is a "decent" cf dev retarded to work for around $20 an hour, 90hrs a
week?

No no, don't answer, that was a trick question.  Or rhetorical, perhaps.
*sigh*

Yeah, this buddy of mine, you know... poor bastard...

least his retirement's only X years away... *sigh*

*sings:* Don't cry for my buddy, Argentina...

LOL.  Yeah, there's more to life than money.
I do rather like having a good bit of it tho...


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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Ariel Jakobovits]

I would also say that maybe the CF job openings are filled to higher 
capacity...for whatever reason. And if you are a CF programmer and you don't 
like your job, it's time to move. But the point is you need 1 job so go get it 
and don't complain that there is not more trash to sort through. CF Rulez!

CF till I die

-Ariel

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Subject: I love CF but it's not fair

Hi:
I was searching for job offers in Australia in here http://mycareer.com.au/ 
If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs which more than half are 
not even only for CF developers and some are for other languages like PHP or 
.NET. When I searched for PHP it came out with a few hundreds but with .NET 
2334 matching results!!! 
I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the search 
engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should have 
such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA but it seems 
the same thing is true in the USA to.
You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't migrate 
it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we started with PHP 
or .Net at the begining now we were more and better employed than now.
Please write your opinions.
Thanks
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Re: cfabort triggering onError function in Application.cfc

[Jake Pilgrim]

An abort is an exception that is caught by the onError event handler. Whether 
this is a bug or a desired effect is debatable, but this does in fact happen. 
However it is easy enough to catch:


   
   
   
   ... do error handling
   


Voila!

Jake Pilgrim

>Since I
>> implemented the onError function in my Application.cfc the cfabort seems
>> to be triggering it.  Is this normal?  if so how do I work around this?
>
>I'm fairly certain cfabort doesn't trigger onError;  at least I haven't seen 
>that before.  You might have another error around the cfabort tag that is 
>causing onError to be triggered.  If you're in a dev environment, you could 
>comment out onError and cfabort for the moment and see exactly what error is 
>being generated.
>
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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Dave l]

cause its over your shiny head!! haha

you might have better luck with spry
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/samples/data_region/DataSetMasterDetailSample.html


> http://208.106.220.252/soundings/T8Report.cfm
> 
> Select test eval 1.
> 
> When the page reloads you'll see mxAjax load up the course dropdown 
> below the organizational dropdowns. Change the Division drop down to 
> some other value. it doesn't do anything. 
> 
 
> I can't figure out how to fire off the ajax again to repopulate the 
> course menu when the Division dropdown changes. qForms IS repopulating 
> the 2nd menu correctly, but I can't make it do the other at the same 
> time. 
> 
> Any ideas anyone? 
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Dinner]

You'd need the parenthesis tho (amazing I left those off, considering how
much I love them).

function departmentOnchange() {

On 6/12/07, Dinner wrote:
>
> On 6/12/07, Will Tomlinson wrote:...
>
> > Any ideas anyone?
>
>
> I don't use qForms... but if you want to add another event to
> the "onchange" of the select, you can just put the current
> function inside another function, and then call that. Like:
>
> function departmentOnchange {
> objForm.Tier6.populate(stcTiers[objForm.Tier7.getValue()], null, null,
> stcBlank);
> yourFunctionCallToMxAjax();
> }
> 
> 
>
> ...
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Re: Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Dinner]

On 6/12/07, Will Tomlinson wrote:...

> Any ideas anyone?


I don't use qForms... but if you want to add another event to
the "onchange" of the select, you can just put the current
function inside another function, and then call that. Like:

function departmentOnchange {
objForm.Tier6.populate(stcTiers[objForm.Tier7.getValue()], null, null,
stcBlank);
yourFunctionCallToMxAjax();
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Re: cfabort triggering onError function in Application.cfc

[Josh Nathanson]

Since I
> implemented the onError function in my Application.cfc the cfabort seems
> to be triggering it.  Is this normal?  if so how do I work around this?

I'm fairly certain cfabort doesn't trigger onError;  at least I haven't seen 
that before.  You might have another error around the cfabort tag that is 
causing onError to be triggered.  If you're in a dev environment, you could 
comment out onError and cfabort for the moment and see exactly what error is 
being generated.

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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Dave l]

One time i looked and there were lots of .net & php jobs around here but they 
averaged about $25 an hour for pay, whereas the cfm jobs averaged about $55 an 
hour.

So I hear a lot about how there are so many .net jobs but they fail to mention 
the crappy pay.

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Re: OnEnter issues

[Dinner]

On 6/12/07, Andrew Scott wrote:
>
> if it was me I would remove the form.
>
> Put the event onKeyUp="javascript:entermessage()" and then in the
> entermessage check that the key up was indeed return (enter = 13).
>
> Then you remove the need for the unwanted form tags.


I've got a habit, I think I picked it up from Netscape, of putting form
fields in form tags, because IIRC, it wouldn't render the form field
if it wasn't in one.

Probably something long past being needed, but with the DOM
being what it is, it's sometimes nice to have a wrapper for form
type stuff.

Also, if you do it right, you can have you your code gracefully degrade,
when someone isn't using javascript.  (probably not an issue in an
app that relies on AJAX ;-}).

I've got a 1 page example of some dojo JS that wraps a "normal"
site in dojo-gooey-ness (Including forms and img/img areas!).
I will share it for a million dollars in small unmarked bills. Or if asked.


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Re: cfabort triggering onError function in Application.cfc

[Will Tomlinson]

>I'm trying to catch errors and display them in a prettier way on one of 
>my applications.  However part of the login script I use has a  
>tag in it to stop processing until the user is authenticated.  Since I 
>implemented the onError function in my Application.cfc the cfabort seems 
>to be triggering it.  Is this normal?  if so how do I work around this?
>
>Thanks!

Yeah, that's a bug Ray blogged about. 

http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm/2005/9/28/Two-Nice-Fixes-in-ColdFusion-701

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Ajax - beating head on wall...

[Will Tomlinson]

http://208.106.220.252/soundings/T8Report.cfm

Select test eval 1.

When the page reloads you'll see mxAjax load up the course dropdown below the 
organizational dropdowns. Change the Division drop down to some other value. it 
doesn't do anything. 

 I can't figure out how to fire off the ajax again to repopulate the course 
menu when the Division dropdown changes. qForms IS repopulating the 2nd menu 
correctly, but I can't make it do the other at the same time. 

Any ideas anyone? 

Thanks,
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cfabort triggering onError function in Application.cfc

[Steve Good]

I'm trying to catch errors and display them in a prettier way on one of 
my applications.  However part of the login script I use has a  
tag in it to stop processing until the user is authenticated.  Since I 
implemented the onError function in my Application.cfc the cfabort seems 
to be triggering it.  Is this normal?  if so how do I work around this?

Thanks!

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Re: Server Cluster

[Duncan]

I have been through several set ups recently, the latest is 2 physical
servers with a cisco pix load balancer with no sticky sessions. we
then run 2 jrun instances for the production app on each box. Provides
great stability.

One limitation on the number of jrun instances on windows is the
maximum limitation in jre of 1gb memory (from memory this is the limit
- could be more perhaps) allocation to Java. So if each take 250mb of
ram, then you are limited at 4 instances.

On 6/12/07, James Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so would you recomend one server with multiple jrun instances or multiple
> virtual servers with one on each?
>
> On 11/06/07, Brad Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > To answer one of your many questions.  You will need CF Enterprise. Once
> > you have obtained the appropriate license for each physical server (and
> > all their processors) you can add as many CF instances as you want.
> > Each of them belonging to one big cluster or several smaller clusters.
> > You name it-- there are no restrictions on the number or configuration
> > of your clusters.
> >
> > There are several adobe technotes and blogs about setting up clusters.
> > I found most of them through people on this list and Google though I
> > don't remember there being any one definitive document that answered all
> > my questions.
> >
> > ~Brad
> >
> >
> > Also, what is the licencing requirement for this, I am aware I can use
> > the same copy of Windows Server in multiple virtual machines but will
> > each one require it's own CF licence or can they share a licence since
> > they run on the same processor(s)?
> >
> > --
> > Jay
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: OnEnter issues

[Andrew Scott]

if it was me I would remove the form.

Put the event onKeyUp="javascript:entermessage()" and then in the
entermessage check that the key up was indeed return (enter = 13).

Then you remove the need for the unwanted form tags.


On 6/12/07, Phillip M. Vector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That did it! THANK YOU! :)
>
> Dinner wrote:
> > I don't know if there is an "onenter" input attribute... that might be a
> > problem.
> >
> > In your case tho, I think you could just do this, and fake the enter
> > key listener (since it's in a form, enter is bound by default to
> submit).
> > I think.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Which I hope would fire every time enter is pressed, but don't know
> > for sure.
> >
> > Otherwise you'd have to listen for a keypress, I guess, and see if
> > the key pressed was the enter key.  I've got some examples of that
> > lying around if you need it.  The interweb has 'em too.
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: OnEnter issues

[Dinner]

On 6/12/07, Phillip M. Vector wrote:
>
> That did it! THANK YOU! :)


Woohoo!  Sweet.  You're welcome!

JS is pretty fun once you start to get it.

Very flexible... yeah.  Have fun picking it up, it's more usefuller now than
ever.

Heh.  Usefuller...


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Re: Large CSV File

[Dinner]

On 6/12/07, Ben Forta wrote:
>
> >> CF may be able to do the same thing, but the fact that Ben Forta
> >> didn't mention it doesn't bode well for that being true.
>
> It's doable, via the text ODBC driver, but it's slow, and the SQL is a
> pain.
>
> I still think the best option is to do this in the DBMS.


I'm gonna go with Ben on this one, but you might want to give
HSSQLDB a shot... it can use CSV files as it's tables and can
be pretty quick.

Never tried it on anything over a few megs, but it handles those alright.

If you're curious, I can send some example code for firing an instance
of HSSQLDB up in the app scope... seriously tho, using a LOAD DATA
type command from MySQL will probably be the easiest...

ASSUMING, of course, that the CSV is in a format that jives with what
you gots to do.  Otherwise, you'll be busting that java line reader and
wanking with the data before doing anything else... GIGO, basically.

Don't get me started on *cough* um, poorly formatted *cough* CSV files...

*walks away muttering to self*


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Re: How many CF developers does it take to manage a site ???

[Dinner]

On 6/12/07, Neil (RX) wrote:...

> So, yes we manage 300 but in all reality we may not touch any of them
> since
> launch:


And there's the money.  I keep meaning to do something like that... get
those
reoccurring payments going on... for doing nothing more than backups and
whatnot.  Let's see... like what, $20 x month, x 300...  Hmm... $35 would...

Bah.  Much of what I do uses the same code base, but I'm always adding
and improving it, and I'm a yes man.  Can I do X? Sure!
Gotta prune that response back a bit...  =-P

Not that it's the same, being a contractor vs. a vested um,
code-n-stuff-dude.

Vested.  Heh.


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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Andrew Scott]

Well I am in the same boat

My Company is trying to move to be a Java shop only, and the work for
Coldfusion for us is not worth us staying. Yet I am trying to hang on till
the fat lady sings.


On 6/13/07, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 6/12/07, Ali Majdzadeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was searching for job offers in Australia in here
> http://mycareer.com.au/
> > If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs
>
> Plus another 16 for "Cold Fusion". However, your point is well taken.
> I hear lots of Australians say that the CF job market seems very slow
> down under. The job market for CFers is much, much better here in the
> US - even the relatively new Developer Center job widget shows 29 CF
> jobs and that's just a small, targeted portion of the overall job
> market here.
>
> That's not much consolation for you, I know, but ColdFusion's success
> must look very dubious from an Australian's viewpoint and that does
> not reflect it's success elsewhere in the world...
> --
> Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN
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>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
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Re: Flex barcode reader

[Eric Haskins]

  I wrote a Pharmaceutical Return Web App in PHP and any old Bar Code
Scanner off ebay worked fine??? I dont see why you would need drivers? It
just gets translated like a keyboard

As for locking pc's down I used to use software called Frotres  from
FortresGrand.com

Worked great

Eric


On 6/12/07, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You could contract an hour or two of time from any winforms guys to build
> you a wrapper for the application to lock it down.
>
> Otherwise I would suggest looking at doing it that way for a number of
> reasons:
>
> - The wrapper would have better security and harder to circumvent
> - You can check to make sure the internet connection is up
> - Many more options to use for barcode reading if that one falls through
>
> Cheers,
>
> !k
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:26 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Flex barcode reader
>
> My company is building a prototype for a self-service kiosk that will
> need to read barcodes and communicate with a remote ColdFusion server.
> We were thinking of taking at look at the Flex Barcode Reader that is on
> Adobe Community samples.
>
> Does anyone have any suggested starting points considering:
>
> - The kiosk is self-service
> - The kiosk will make remote procedure calls over a network
> - The kiosk will not be running ColdFusion (but will talk to CF over the
> network)
>
> Thanks. Sorry for the very broad question, but I just through I would
> throw it out there.
>
> ...
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Re: Flex barcode reader

[Dan Munez]

I'm working on a similar project.  SAVE YOUR MONEY!  You don't have to use 
sitekiosk or kiosk apps.  You want to lock down your browser?  FINE!  you can 
already lock down your browser AKA kiosk mode in mozilla firefox.  you can also 
make internet explorer show nothing but whatever you want to show (no tools, no 
menus no scrollbars).  it's as if you were running a full blown app.  you can 
also disable the CTR-ALT-DEL keys easily. 

I havent been messing with RPCs yet.  For now, the kiosk just checks with the 
server every x minutes to see if there are any new updates that need to be 
downloaded, any new files that need to be loaded, or if the system needs to be 
restarted.  YES, all of this from an admin on the main server.  You know, have 
flags in the database that tells X server to download X files or restart at X 
time.

of course maybe RPC is better? =)

Lemme know what u think!




have any suggested starting points considering:
> 
>- The kiosk is self-service
>- The kiosk will make remote procedure calls over a network
>- The kiosk will not be running ColdFusion (but will talk to CF over the
>network)
> 

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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Russ]

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: I love CF but it's not fair
> 
> On 6/12/07, David Low  wrote:
> I don't recall CF5 ever being free though,

I remember there was TagFusion or something like that.  Basically was going
to be a free CF implementation in Java.  I believe CF bought it and used it
to create CF 5 (or 6).  

I'm not 100% on this, but I think that's what happened.  




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RE: Flex barcode reader

[Kevin Aebig]

You could contract an hour or two of time from any winforms guys to build
you a wrapper for the application to lock it down. 

Otherwise I would suggest looking at doing it that way for a number of
reasons:

- The wrapper would have better security and harder to circumvent
- You can check to make sure the internet connection is up
- Many more options to use for barcode reading if that one falls through
 
Cheers,

!k

-Original Message-
From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flex barcode reader

My company is building a prototype for a self-service kiosk that will
need to read barcodes and communicate with a remote ColdFusion server.
We were thinking of taking at look at the Flex Barcode Reader that is on
Adobe Community samples. 
 
Does anyone have any suggested starting points considering:
 
- The kiosk is self-service
- The kiosk will make remote procedure calls over a network
- The kiosk will not be running ColdFusion (but will talk to CF over the
network)
 
Thanks. Sorry for the very broad question, but I just through I would
throw it out there.
 
...
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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Ali Majdzadeh]

> Another thought:
> 
> You don't need 2334 jobs. You need one job (ok, maybe 2)
> 
> Hopefully it's the quality not the quantity that matters.
> 
Sure but when there are less options to choose it means many may not match your 
needs. The main problem will be location. But when there are 2334 job offers 
the chance for the proper one will be much more than the 23. 
Farcry is an Australian CMS and a famous one it seems. That's why I thought 
maybe Australian CF developers have more popularity than the US developers but 
it seems NO WAY!
Thanks
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Re: Large CSV File

[Matt Robertson]

And you can always drop to java and read the little beast in one line
at a time that way.  You won't have any memory issues like you would
if you try and read in an 80mb file into a single cosmic-scale array.
I have a similar monster file situation and solved it this way;
although mine is daily and "only" about 20mb

I chopped this out of that working file.  Hopefully I got all the
important bits as the original is like 1000 lines.  Basically
imported.str is one line of the file.  It is incremented as shown and
you do whatever processing you need on the text.  I have a bunch of
reformatting and additional processing that I do before I toss the
data into a db, publish a static file blahblahblah.  What I like about
this approach is I get to do everything in a single cfloop that has
minimal memory consequences.















On 6/12/07, Jake Pilgrim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A number of excellent database-based solutions have already been posted (and 
> a database solution is probably preferred), but don't overlook CFHTTP. CFHTTP 
> is actually quite good at parsing a CSV and spooling it into a CFQUERY. 
> Depending on exactly what you want to do with your data, this may be a good 
> solution.
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Re: FustionReactor list?

[Andrew Scott]

Send them an email, they have set up a fusionDebug mailing list so I am sure
they will no doubt set up one if asked.

On 6/13/07, Nick Gleason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> We have been trying out FusionReactor recently and have had a good
> experience so far.  But, the FR documentation is a bit thin and FR user
> support can only do so much.  So, does anyone know of a FusionReactor
> listserve and/or user group?  If not, would anyone want to start one (at
> House of fusion or elsewhere)?
>
> It would be great to connect with others who are trying to get the most
> out
> of FR.
>
> Best,
>
> Nick
>
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Re: OT: PHP and MYSQL install help.

[Eric Haskins]

Not familiar with WAMP I use XAMPP for my windows Dev enviroment. Unsure but
that is the same message I see when someone forgets the PHP MYSQL Connector.
In most cases it is only on a linux box. I have never seen it on windows
(Unless I forget to Start MySQL Server)

Eric Haskins


On 6/12/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 12 Jun 2007, Tony wrote:
> > when i try to run this: http://localhost:81/ssp_director/mysql_test.php
> ...
> > Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Can't connect to
> > MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061) in
> > C:\wamp\www\ssp_director\mysql_test.php on line 4
> > MySQL Error: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'localhost' (10061)
>
> OK.
> 1) Is it running ? Is there a firewall blocking the port ?
> 2) Is the account created (remember MySQL accounts are tied to particular
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Re: Flex barcode reader

[Jason Radosevich]

If the pc you are using has windows xp on it, why not just use the mmc
snap in that is built into windows..you can prevent
CTRL-ALT-DELTE, access to any drive thru my computer, or to my
computer, etc...

On 6/12/07, Eric Haskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I wrote a Pharmaceutical Return Web App in PHP and any old Bar Code
> Scanner off ebay worked fine??? I dont see why you would need drivers? It
> just gets translated like a keyboard
>
> As for locking pc's down I used to use software called Frotres  from
> FortresGrand.com
>
> Worked great
>
> Eric
>
>
> On 6/12/07, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > You could contract an hour or two of time from any winforms guys to build
> > you a wrapper for the application to lock it down.
> >
> > Otherwise I would suggest looking at doing it that way for a number of
> > reasons:
> >
> > - The wrapper would have better security and harder to circumvent
> > - You can check to make sure the internet connection is up
> > - Many more options to use for barcode reading if that one falls through
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > !k
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:26 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Flex barcode reader
> >
> > My company is building a prototype for a self-service kiosk that will
> > need to read barcodes and communicate with a remote ColdFusion server.
> > We were thinking of taking at look at the Flex Barcode Reader that is on
> > Adobe Community samples.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggested starting points considering:
> >
> > - The kiosk is self-service
> > - The kiosk will make remote procedure calls over a network
> > - The kiosk will not be running ColdFusion (but will talk to CF over the
> > network)
> >
> > Thanks. Sorry for the very broad question, but I just through I would
> > throw it out there.
> >
> > ...
> > Ben Nadel
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> > Nylon Technology
> > 350 7th Avenue
> > Floor 10
> > New York, NY 10001
> > 212.691.1134 x 14
> > 212.691.3477 fax
> > www.nylontechnology.com 
> >
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FustionReactor list?

[Nick Gleason]

Hi folks,

We have been trying out FusionReactor recently and have had a good
experience so far.  But, the FR documentation is a bit thin and FR user
support can only do so much.  So, does anyone know of a FusionReactor
listserve and/or user group?  If not, would anyone want to start one (at
House of fusion or elsewhere)?

It would be great to connect with others who are trying to get the most out
of FR.  

Best,

Nick

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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Jerry Johnson]

Another thought:

You don't need 2334 jobs. You need one job (ok, maybe 2)

Hopefully it's the quality not the quantity that matters.

On 6/12/07, Ali Majdzadeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi:
> I was searching for job offers in Australia in here http://mycareer.com.au/
> If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs which more than half 
> are not even only for CF developers and some are for other languages like PHP 
> or .NET. When I searched for PHP it came out with a few hundreds but with 
> .NET 2334 matching results!!!
> I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the search 
> engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
> I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should have 
> such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA but it 
> seems the same thing is true in the USA to.
> You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't migrate 
> it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we started with 
> PHP or .Net at the begining now we were more and better employed than now.

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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Sean Corfield]

On 6/12/07, Ali Majdzadeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was searching for job offers in Australia in here http://mycareer.com.au/
> If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs

Plus another 16 for "Cold Fusion". However, your point is well taken.
I hear lots of Australians say that the CF job market seems very slow
down under. The job market for CFers is much, much better here in the
US - even the relatively new Developer Center job widget shows 29 CF
jobs and that's just a small, targeted portion of the overall job
market here.

That's not much consolation for you, I know, but ColdFusion's success
must look very dubious from an Australian's viewpoint and that does
not reflect it's success elsewhere in the world...
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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Matt Robertson]

On 6/12/07, David Low  wrote:
I don't recall CF5 ever being free though,

There was Cold Fusion Express.  It was a chopped-up v4.x IIRC.
Crippled and didn't last long.

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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[Jerry Johnson]

There are also a lot of jobs for McDonalds late shift workers.

=)

My current programming job is 95% coldfusion, and the ad was for a
perl developer.
My last job was 85% coldfusion, 15% Director and the ad was for "web developer"
My previous job was for "Foxpro Developer", and it was 25% foxpro, 50%
pl/sql and oracle, and a mix of documentum, installer scripts, netware
vlms, etc.

Many places that are hiring have no idea how to classify their
programming needs.

Even at this job, the 95% coldfusion is just the main application
server environment. All day today has been SQL Server, Javascript,
HTML, CSS, some design work, and some ia specing.

I have found that the way the job description reads, and the
technologies described, is usually an indicator of the type of
development environment, the management understanding of technology,
and the development methodology as much as it is an actual request for
technology proficiency.

A job that specs .NET and all MS technologies is often a very rigid,
MS dominated, corporate environment that values certifications more
than seat time and documentation over creativity.

Same is true for PHP/LAMP/Open Source development houses. The choice
of these technologies can be a huge clue into the budget priorities of
a group, which will often affect pay scales and any outlay of real
dollars (sometimes penny smart and pound foolish). Not always, of
course, but often enough in my life to have a question going in.

Some thoughts from my head.
Jerry

On 6/12/07, Ali Majdzadeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi:
> I was searching for job offers in Australia in here http://mycareer.com.au/
> If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs which more than half 
> are not even only for CF developers and some are for other languages like PHP 
> or .NET. When I searched for PHP it came out with a few hundreds but with 
> .NET 2334 matching results!!!
> I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the search 
> engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
> I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should have 
> such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA but it 
> seems the same thing is true in the USA to.
> You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't migrate 
> it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we started with 
> PHP or .Net at the begining now we were more and better employed than now.
> Please write your opinions.

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RE: Short rant

[Dawson, Michael]

I did the same thing.  SQL2005's jobs are much nicer than 2000's.  Several of 
my most-important jobs are just SQL statements that were pasted into a job step.
 
I also miss DTS, but the other day I was pretty much forced into using Visual 
Studio on our SQL Server to do a project that now saves us many hours a week.
 
We just converted to a new student/business system at our university.  Each 
morning, data is exported into a SQL database for further use.  I created some 
jobs to refresh data (names, birthdates, etc) in our Blackboard database as 
well as load and refresh our ID card database.
 
The best project was to let SQL Server create our domain accounts.  I'm not a 
.NET guy, but I was surprised how easy it was for SQL Server to create our 
domain accounts, add them to a group and setup their Exchange mailboxes.  (I 
had been doing this for years, manually, using a ColdFusion form and a VB6 COM 
object.)
 
It's a pretty slick operation.  It's simple and not ground-breaking, however, 
it will save us hours of manual entry, each week, and greatly cuts down the 
amount of data entry errors.
 
Oh, and I think SQL 2005's Ent Mgr is much nicer than 2000.  MUCH nicer.
 
M!ke

  _  

From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 6/12/2007 2:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Short rant



I find SQL Server Management Studio to be tolerable for what I need to do.

I hate the fact that they've done away with DTS packags and now you've
got to build jobs with that frakking visual studio stuff.  I don't get
that stuff at all.

I ended up turning a couple of my jobs into SQL Agent jobs instead of
SISS packages, since they were really very simple SQL execution stuff.

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Re: var keyword in cfcs ... needed for query names?

[Brian Kotek]

I asked Tim, Tom and Adam (and voted for a feature request) for an
administrator option to do just this in CF8, but alas...

On 6/12/07, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 6/12/07, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Absolutely. You must specify var scoping for ALL method local variables
> > including query names and loop indexes.
>
> you *SHOULD* ... not *MUST*
>
> Just being argumentative :)  .  If "must" was the right word, then CF
> would generate an error if you didn't.
>
> Personally, I think that'd be nice.  but they'll never do it.  I think
> they should automatically var scope EVERYTHING in a method unless
> otherwise specifically scoped elsewhere.
>
> Rick
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Re: Flex barcode reader

[Josh Nathanson]

> We were thinking web app because then we wouldn't have to outsource some
> sort of Windows Programmer... But right now, we are just prototyping
> things out and exploring our options. I appreciate your reassurance that
> barcode reading isn't as mammoth an idea as one might think it to be.

Nope, not at all mammoth.  Your standard USB barcode reader comes with its 
own software to read the barcode and translate it into plain data.  Then 
it's up to your application to do something with the data.

> What we also need to do is make sure that we have a "locked down"
> system. We cannot have people CTRL-ALT-DELETE'ing out of the application
> and messing with the standard OS.

Best case scenario, you don't have any input device at the kiosk other than 
the barcode reader...touchscreens are the most popular for this sort of 
thing.  This limits the potential user to only the options you present to 
them.  I don't know how you'd lock down a standard Windows setup with 
keyboard, mouse etc. -- there are probably ways to do that.

Can you reveal any more details about the proposed application, or is it 
confidential?

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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Billy Cox]

Search results can be misleading.

I have observed that job posts often have a laundry list of
technologies/skills most of which are 'nice to have' but not critical to the
job. So a listing might say they want someone with Java, .NET, Python, ASP
classic and Oracle, but what they really want is a Java programmer who might
have dabbled in other things.

In contrast, if a job listing mentions ColdFusion it is most likely the core
skill required, not just part of a meaningless list. Thus there are fewer
job listings mentioning CF, but at least you know that the ones that do
mention CF actually DO want someone with a CF background.





-Original Message-
From: Ali Majdzadeh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I love CF but it's not fair


Hi:
I was searching for job offers in Australia in here http://mycareer.com.au/
If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs which more than half
are not even only for CF developers and some are for other languages like
PHP or .NET. When I searched for PHP it came out with a few hundreds but
with .NET 2334 matching results!!!
I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the search
engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should have
such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA but it
seems the same thing is true in the USA to.
You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't
migrate it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we
started with PHP or .Net at the begining now we were more and better
employed than now.
Please write your opinions.
Thanks
Benign



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Re: I love CF but it's not fair

[David Low]

Russ wrote:
> Maybe someone should make a free/open source CF server.  That would probably
> get more people using it.  Of course once you've invested this much time
> into developing a product like that, it's hard not to start charging for it.
> (Didn't CF5 and BlueDragon start out as free products?)

There are free and cheap engines out there.

Someone mentioned Smith already, there's also Railo's community edition 
(and their other editions are very reasonable too).

BD has a free edition too - I don't recall CF5 ever being free though, 
unless it was some kind of upgrade promotion when Macromedia launched it 
post-Allaire?

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Re: Flex barcode reader

[koen darling]

There's software out there to help you out. I've used SiteKiosk (
http://www.sitekiosk.com/) and it was a cinch to set up the running
application, what the user could/couldn't do, etc.

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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Andy Matthews]

CF alternatives (some free, some open source)

- Blue Dragon
- Railo
- Smith
- IgniteFusion 
- Coral Web Builder


-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I love CF but it's not fair

Maybe someone should make a free/open source CF server.  That would probably
get more people using it.  Of course once you've invested this much time
into developing a product like that, it's hard not to start charging for it.
(Didn't CF5 and BlueDragon start out as free products?)

Russ



> -Original Message-
> From: Jake Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: I love CF but it's not fair
> 
> ..NET is popular and other languages are free.  CF won't go away (I 
> hope) but it'll probably never overtake other languages without some 
> serious marketing pushes.
> 
> _
> 
> Jake Churchill
> CF Webtools
> 11204 Davenport, Ste. 200b
> Omaha, NE  68154
> http://www.cfwebtools.com
> 402-408-3733 x103
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ali Majdzadeh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:53 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: I love CF but it's not fair
> 
> Hi:
> I was searching for job offers in Australia in here 
> http://mycareer.com.au/ If you search for CF job offers it brings only 
> 23 jobs which more than half are not even only for CF developers and 
> some are for other languages like PHP or .NET. When I searched for PHP 
> it came out with a few hundreds but with .NET 2334 matching 
> results!!!
> I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the 
> search engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
> I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should 
> have such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA 
> but it seems the same thing is true in the USA to.
> You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't 
> migrate it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we 
> started with PHP or .Net at the begining now we were more and better 
> employed than now.
> Please write your opinions.
> Thanks
> Benign
> 
> 
> 
> 



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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Brad Wood]

Check out the smith project.
http://www.smithproject.org/

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: I love CF but it's not fair

Maybe someone should make a free/open source CF server.  That would
probably
get more people using it.  Of course once you've invested this much time
into developing a product like that, it's hard not to start charging for
it.
(Didn't CF5 and BlueDragon start out as free products?)

Russ

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Re: Form strangeness

[Charles Sheehan-Miles]

You've perfectly defined my puzzle.  On some pages, it recognizes the form
post.  On a very small small number, it doesn't. I'm not sure the
difference, but I'm trying to figure it out now.


On 6/12/07 4:41 PM, "Claude Schneegans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>> When index.cfm is executed, it calls the appropriate template or function
> based on the contents of the "page" variable
> 
> Ok, but how does it call it, how does it recognizes that it was called
> with method=POST and how will it call the page using the appropriate method?

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Re: Using sessions with Flash Remoting

[Sean Corfield]

On 6/12/07, John Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So ignoring the stuff below, can you or anyone shed some light on how
> I can set a Client or Session variable in the cfc that I'm using with
> flash, that I can use later in my onEndSession function?

Oops, I misread your code somewhat! I never ever use client variables
so I completely missed that you're trying to use CLIENT scope here. My
bad.

Flash Remoting should handle per-session cookies but I think if you
want to use persistent cookies, you need to use JavaScript with your
Flash app to manipulate them. If you're using J2EE sessions on your
server (highly recommended!) then regular session variables should
"just work" with Flash Remoting.

So if you enabled J2EE sessions and use SESSION scope instead of
CLIENT scope, you should be fine:

   
   
   

   
   
   
   
   
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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Russ]

Maybe someone should make a free/open source CF server.  That would probably
get more people using it.  Of course once you've invested this much time
into developing a product like that, it's hard not to start charging for it.
(Didn't CF5 and BlueDragon start out as free products?)

Russ



> -Original Message-
> From: Jake Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: I love CF but it's not fair
> 
> ..NET is popular and other languages are free.  CF won't go away (I hope)
> but
> it'll probably never overtake other languages without some serious
> marketing
> pushes.
> 
> _
> 
> Jake Churchill
> CF Webtools
> 11204 Davenport, Ste. 200b
> Omaha, NE  68154
> http://www.cfwebtools.com
> 402-408-3733 x103
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ali Majdzadeh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:53 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: I love CF but it's not fair
> 
> Hi:
> I was searching for job offers in Australia in here
> http://mycareer.com.au/
> If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs which more than
> half
> are not even only for CF developers and some are for other languages like
> PHP or .NET. When I searched for PHP it came out with a few hundreds but
> with .NET 2334 matching results!!!
> I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the search
> engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
> I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should
> have
> such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA but it
> seems the same thing is true in the USA to.
> You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't
> migrate it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we
> started with PHP or .Net at the begining now we were more and better
> employed than now.
> Please write your opinions.
> Thanks
> Benign
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: Flex barcode reader

[Ben Nadel]

We were thinking web app because then we wouldn't have to outsource some
sort of Windows Programmer... But right now, we are just prototyping
things out and exploring our options. I appreciate your reassurance that
barcode reading isn't as mammoth an idea as one might think it to be. 

AIR is an interesting possibility. 

What we also need to do is make sure that we have a "locked down"
system. We cannot have people CTRL-ALT-DELETE'ing out of the application
and messing with the standard OS. 

Thanks,
Ben

-Original Message-
From: Josh Nathanson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:04 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flex barcode reader

> My company is building a prototype for a self-service kiosk that will 
> need to read barcodes and communicate with a remote ColdFusion server.
> We were thinking of taking at look at the Flex Barcode Reader that is 
> on Adobe Community samples.

I should think any old barcode reader will work fine.  Once the barcode
is read at the kiosk, it will just be sending regular data across the
network to CF.  If the Flex one is easy to use/configure then it should
work fine.

I presume since you are looking at Flex this will be a web app that the
user is interacting with?  Maybe this would be a good app to use AIR or
something desktop oriented?

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RE: Using sessions with Flash Remoting

[Kevin Aebig]

I personally don't like to use Sessions with Flash. I basically do a CFLogin
to authenticate for the service calls, than pass back any needed vars and
hold them in Flash. I can think of a few situations where this won't
accomplish the end goal, but for most of my projects it's worked fine.

Cheers,

!k

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From: John Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Using sessions with Flash Remoting

Thanks Sean -

So ignoring the stuff below, can you or anyone shed some light on how  
I can set a Client or Session variable in the cfc that I'm using with  
flash, that I can use later in my onEndSession function?

In my onEndSession function, I have 2 arguments, 'sessionScope' and  
'appScope'.

Assuming I set my variable in a separate cfc using the following:



how do I reference that same variable in my onEndSession function?

Also, I'm still not convinced that these events (onEndSession, etc)  
are even firing. Can anyone provide a simple example that shows how  
they're supposed to work?

Thanks,
John


On Jun 12, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:

> On 6/12/07, John Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > output="false">
>> 
>
> This stores the client.testVar in VARIABLES.client.testVar which is
> essentially thrown away after the request runs.
>
>> Then in my cfc (or cfm file), I have a function that contains this  
>> line:
>> 
>
> That is setting a different variable to any of the stuff in your
> Application.cfc.
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RE: I love CF but it's not fair

[Jake Churchill]

..NET is popular and other languages are free.  CF won't go away (I hope) but
it'll probably never overtake other languages without some serious marketing
pushes.

_ 

Jake Churchill 
CF Webtools 
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Omaha, NE  68154 
http://www.cfwebtools.com 
402-408-3733 x103 


-Original Message-
From: Ali Majdzadeh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: I love CF but it's not fair

Hi:
I was searching for job offers in Australia in here http://mycareer.com.au/ 
If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs which more than half
are not even only for CF developers and some are for other languages like
PHP or .NET. When I searched for PHP it came out with a few hundreds but
with .NET 2334 matching results!!! 
I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the search
engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should have
such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA but it
seems the same thing is true in the USA to.
You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't
migrate it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we
started with PHP or .Net at the begining now we were more and better
employed than now.
Please write your opinions.
Thanks
Benign



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Re: Flex barcode reader

[Josh Nathanson]

> My company is building a prototype for a self-service kiosk that will
> need to read barcodes and communicate with a remote ColdFusion server.
> We were thinking of taking at look at the Flex Barcode Reader that is on
> Adobe Community samples.

I should think any old barcode reader will work fine.  Once the barcode is 
read at the kiosk, it will just be sending regular data across the network 
to CF.  If the Flex one is easy to use/configure then it should work fine.

I presume since you are looking at Flex this will be a web app that the user 
is interacting with?  Maybe this would be a good app to use AIR or something 
desktop oriented?

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I love CF but it's not fair

[Ali Majdzadeh]

Hi:
I was searching for job offers in Australia in here http://mycareer.com.au/ 
If you search for CF job offers it brings only 23 jobs which more than half are 
not even only for CF developers and some are for other languages like PHP or 
.NET. When I searched for PHP it came out with a few hundreds but with .NET 
2334 matching results!!! 
I love CF but it seems even Python is more popular or at least the search 
engine comes with better results with it (about 50 offers).
I really don't understand why such a powerful and easy langauge should have 
such a low job offers in Australia! I really don't know about USA but it seems 
the same thing is true in the USA to.
You know I just say it as a theory cause I really love CF and I won't migrate 
it till and only if Adobe kills the product but it seems if we started with PHP 
or .Net at the begining now we were more and better employed than now.
Please write your opinions.
Thanks
Benign

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Re: Using sessions with Flash Remoting

[John Robinson]

Thanks Sean -

So ignoring the stuff below, can you or anyone shed some light on how  
I can set a Client or Session variable in the cfc that I'm using with  
flash, that I can use later in my onEndSession function?

In my onEndSession function, I have 2 arguments, 'sessionScope' and  
'appScope'.

Assuming I set my variable in a separate cfc using the following:



how do I reference that same variable in my onEndSession function?

Also, I'm still not convinced that these events (onEndSession, etc)  
are even firing. Can anyone provide a simple example that shows how  
they're supposed to work?

Thanks,
John


On Jun 12, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Sean Corfield wrote:

> On 6/12/07, John Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > output="false">
>> 
>
> This stores the client.testVar in VARIABLES.client.testVar which is
> essentially thrown away after the request runs.
>
>> Then in my cfc (or cfm file), I have a function that contains this  
>> line:
>> 
>
> That is setting a different variable to any of the stuff in your
> Application.cfc.
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Re: Form strangeness

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>When index.cfm is executed, it calls the appropriate template or function
based on the contents of the "page" variable

Ok, but how does it call it, how does it recognizes that it was called 
with method=POST and how will it call the page using the appropriate method?

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RE: Short rant

[Damien McKenna]

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Short rant
> 
>  And the fact that it is freaking impossible to import data in the
> Express version.

No it isn't.  I was able to import an Access database into it, I just
got the free management tools from MSFT's website.


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Flex barcode reader

[Ben Nadel]

My company is building a prototype for a self-service kiosk that will
need to read barcodes and communicate with a remote ColdFusion server.
We were thinking of taking at look at the Flex Barcode Reader that is on
Adobe Community samples. 
 
Does anyone have any suggested starting points considering:
 
- The kiosk is self-service
- The kiosk will make remote procedure calls over a network
- The kiosk will not be running ColdFusion (but will talk to CF over the
network)
 
Thanks. Sorry for the very broad question, but I just through I would
throw it out there.
 
..
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Re: Short rant

[Matt Robertson]

On 6/12/07, Crow T. Robot wrote:
> I'm pretty sure Express Mgmt Studio is free - period.  Is that what you're
> asking?

No I'm using the Mgmt Studio Express myself already, like the original
poster.  I was lamenting about how there was no way to import or
export data from it... since I am right in the middle of a major job
with a client where I am needing to export a lot of data from SQL 2000
(table by table) and ... Access (also 1 table at a time).

Russ and Dan seem to have a better grip on reality than I do.  I had
flat out been unable to find a copy of the Dev edition for sale when I
was looking for it last week.  Found another one at CDW just now, but
its not as cheap as Amazon.  I'll try Russ' solution first to see if I
can live with it.

Thx guys,

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RE: 16 character limit on SQL pass

[Dan G. Switzer, II]

Actually, think the 16 character limit is a known issue with the database
drivers that CFMX uses...

I actually thought this was fixed at one point, but I could be wrong. I've
never run into the issue.

-Dan

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>Your dba is an idiot.  I would stop at 14 or 15 characters but even that is
>probably too long.
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>Nobody, huh?
>
>>Does anyone know why ColdFusion datasources have a 16 character limit on
>>passwords?  My DBA just created a monster 38 character password which
>>looked like someone sat on his keyboard while he was typing.  I had to
>>tell him to trim it down a little.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>~Brad
>
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RE: Short rant

[Russ]

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 3:32 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Short rant
> 
>  And the fact that it is freaking impossible to import data in the
> Express version.
> 

I wouldn't say impossible... The tool leaves a bit to be desired, but it
works... 

I did a quick write-up on this a while back... 

http://www.ruslansivak.com/index.cfm/2007/2/14/SQL-Server-2005-Express-Impor
tExport-Functionality

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RE: Short rant

[Dan G. Switzer, II]

Matt,

>Anyone know if Management Studio keeps working after the 180-day trial
>period is up like it did with the old Enterprise Manager?  Heck I'd be
>happy to buy EMgr like I have in the past (the US$50 msrp was
>reasonable) but it doesn't seem to be available as a standalone.

I don't know the answer to that, but Microsoft sells a SQL Server 2005
Developer Edition for like $50. You can get it from Amazon for $42.

What is the Developer Edition, from MS website:

"Developer Edition allows developers to build and test any type of
application with SQL Server on 32-bit, ia64, and x64 platforms. Developer
Edition includes all of the functionality of Enterprise Edition, but is
licensed only for development, test, and demo use. Each license of SQL
Server 2005 Developer Edition entitles one developer to use the software on
as many systems as necessary and additional developers can use the software
by purchasing additional licenses. For rapid deployment into production,
Developer Edition can easily be upgraded to SQL Server 2005 Enterprise
Edition."

http://www.microsoft.com/sql/editions/developer/default.mspx

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Re: Short rant

[Crow T. Robot]

I'm pretty sure Express Mgmt Studio is free - period.  Is that what you're
asking?

On 6/12/07, Matt Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  And the fact that it is freaking impossible to import data in the
> Express version.
>
> Funny... this topic coming up right now.  I have a client with a BIG
> web site who has decided to branch their main web presence onto SQL
> Express, and I spent some frustrating time a few days ago trying to
> figure out how to import data into the thing via the Express tool...
> Discovered the tools for that aren't in Express.  At all.
>
> Anyone know if Management Studio keeps working after the 180-day trial
> period is up like it did with the old Enterprise Manager?  Heck I'd be
> happy to buy EMgr like I have in the past (the US$50 msrp was
> reasonable) but it doesn't seem to be available as a standalone.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> mysecretbase.com
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Re: Short rant

[Christopher Jordan]

Since it's the only thing I've ever used, I'm curious what you don't 
like about it.

Thanks,
Chris

James Smith wrote:
> Is it just me or is SQL Server Management Studio Express crap?
>
> 

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Re: Short rant

[Matt Robertson]

 And the fact that it is freaking impossible to import data in the
Express version.

Funny... this topic coming up right now.  I have a client with a BIG
web site who has decided to branch their main web presence onto SQL
Express, and I spent some frustrating time a few days ago trying to
figure out how to import data into the thing via the Express tool...
Discovered the tools for that aren't in Express.  At all.

Anyone know if Management Studio keeps working after the 180-day trial
period is up like it did with the old Enterprise Manager?  Heck I'd be
happy to buy EMgr like I have in the past (the US$50 msrp was
reasonable) but it doesn't seem to be available as a standalone.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Janitor, The Robertson Team
mysecretbase.com

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Re: Short rant

[Rick Root]

I find SQL Server Management Studio to be tolerable for what I need to do.

I hate the fact that they've done away with DTS packags and now you've
got to build jobs with that frakking visual studio stuff.  I don't get
that stuff at all.

I ended up turning a couple of my jobs into SQL Agent jobs instead of
SISS packages, since they were really very simple SQL execution stuff.

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RE: Short rant

[Brad Wood]

It is better now that I am getting used to it but I hated it there for a
while.  Mainly due to changing some of my favorite keyboard shortcuts
and leaving no way to customize them.  (F8 toggling object explorer on
AND OFF etc...)

~Brad

-Original Message-
From: Crow T. Robot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:16 PM
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I actually prefer it over the the Ent Mgr.  But I seem to be in the
minority

On 6/12/07, James Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is it just me or is SQL Server Management Studio Express crap?
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> 

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RE: Short rant

[Trevor Orr]

No it is not just you, I have started using SQL Manager from EMS
http://www.sqlmanager.net in my opinion it kicks ass on any Microsoft
SQL management tool.




-Original Message-
From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Short rant

Is it just me or is SQL Server Management Studio Express crap?



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