Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Russ Michaels]

when you upgraded CF, are you sure the CFIDE got upgraded as well. If you
have it in a non standard place then this would not have happened.
during installation it would have verified the path it was using.
are you using the default one at \ cfusion\wwwroot\cfide, if not
then try using this one instead, or taking a copy of it and overwriting
your external copy.

you should also view source on your webpage and check the path to the
javascript files, and make sure you can actually access the file (copy and
paste path to browser or click the link). If it cannot find the file, then
there is your issue.


On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Parul Bali 
wrote:

>
> No worries Russ. Yes, I'm able to access 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener'
> directly using the cfc browser.
>
> Also, it seems that the  tag isn't creating the javascript
> websocket object at all, because when i try calling the startup functions
> directly thru the console, i get the error that the websocket object is not
> defined. This was never an issue before upgrading to CF11.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> >
> > ok sorry thought you were saying you could not lock down CFIDE cozz you
> > used web sockets.
> >
> > are you able to access the CFC directly via the browser using the cfc
> > browser?
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Parul Bali 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks Russ, we do follow these practices on Production, but right now
> am
> > > testing locally. So was just ruling that out as the issue that might be
> > > breaking my Websockets' application which suddenly stopped working
> after
> > > upgrading to CF11. So was wondering if anyone's faced such Websocket
> > issues
> > > after upgrading to CF11. Any pointers or troubleshooting tips would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The master CFIDE must be locked down, otherwise you are opening
> > yourself
> > > up
> > > > to be hacked.
> > > > One of the standard best practices I have documented since CF6 is to
> > > make a
> > > > copy of the CFIDE with only the minimal required files and to use
> this
> > as
> > > > the vDir in your sites if required. This will then contain nothing
> > > > dangerous that can be abused.
> > > > It is also fully documented in many places, including the lock down
> > guide
> > > > how to lock down only the parts of the CFIDE that need locking down
> if
> > > you
> > > > choose to use the original copy on your sites.
> > > > Have you tried this ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Parul Bali <
> parul.sarasw...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryon,
> > > > >
> > > > > My custom channel listener does extend
> > > 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener',
> > > > > but if CFIDE's Channel Listener is inaccessible, I get the error
> that
> > > my
> > > > > custom ChannelListener is not  a valid ChannelListener handler. So
> > > > locking
> > > > > down of CFIDE is ruled out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Parul Bali <
> > parul.sarasw...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Bryon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use my own custom channel listener CFC. So that's probably not
> > the
> > > > > > issue. Thanks for your help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jack,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The websockets are enabled in CFAdmin. Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was working right before the upgrade to CF11, so wondering if
> > > > there's
> > > > > > anything to be kept in mind while upgrading - that I might have
> > > missed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Jack Traynor <
> > traynor.j...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure
> > > 

Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Byron Mann]

Maybe a missing CF Mapping for the custom listener path?  So does something
like createObject("component", 'myPath.myCustomListener') work?

You mentioned an upgrade, is CF 10 still running on the server?  Maybe a
port conflict if that's the case. I would check all the CF 11 logs to see
if there are any exceptions being tossed as well.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Parul Bali 
wrote:

>
> No worries Russ. Yes, I'm able to access 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener'
> directly using the cfc browser.
>
> Also, it seems that the  tag isn't creating the javascript
> websocket object at all, because when i try calling the startup functions
> directly thru the console, i get the error that the websocket object is not
> defined. This was never an issue before upgrading to CF11.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:
>
> >
> > ok sorry thought you were saying you could not lock down CFIDE cozz you
> > used web sockets.
> >
> > are you able to access the CFC directly via the browser using the cfc
> > browser?
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Parul Bali 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks Russ, we do follow these practices on Production, but right now
> am
> > > testing locally. So was just ruling that out as the issue that might be
> > > breaking my Websockets' application which suddenly stopped working
> after
> > > upgrading to CF11. So was wondering if anyone's faced such Websocket
> > issues
> > > after upgrading to CF11. Any pointers or troubleshooting tips would be
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The master CFIDE must be locked down, otherwise you are opening
> > yourself
> > > up
> > > > to be hacked.
> > > > One of the standard best practices I have documented since CF6 is to
> > > make a
> > > > copy of the CFIDE with only the minimal required files and to use
> this
> > as
> > > > the vDir in your sites if required. This will then contain nothing
> > > > dangerous that can be abused.
> > > > It is also fully documented in many places, including the lock down
> > guide
> > > > how to lock down only the parts of the CFIDE that need locking down
> if
> > > you
> > > > choose to use the original copy on your sites.
> > > > Have you tried this ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Parul Bali <
> parul.sarasw...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryon,
> > > > >
> > > > > My custom channel listener does extend
> > > 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener',
> > > > > but if CFIDE's Channel Listener is inaccessible, I get the error
> that
> > > my
> > > > > custom ChannelListener is not  a valid ChannelListener handler. So
> > > > locking
> > > > > down of CFIDE is ruled out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Parul Bali <
> > parul.sarasw...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Bryon,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I use my own custom channel listener CFC. So that's probably not
> > the
> > > > > > issue. Thanks for your help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Jack,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The websockets are enabled in CFAdmin. Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It was working right before the upgrade to CF11, so wondering if
> > > > there's
> > > > > > anything to be kept in mind while upgrading - that I might have
> > > missed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Jack Traynor <
> > traynor.j...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure
> > > that
> > > > is
> > > > > >> still enabled after your upgrade.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Byron Mann <
> byronos...@gmail.com>
> >

Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Parul Bali]

No worries Russ. Yes, I'm able to access 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener'
directly using the cfc browser.

Also, it seems that the  tag isn't creating the javascript
websocket object at all, because when i try calling the startup functions
directly thru the console, i get the error that the websocket object is not
defined. This was never an issue before upgrading to CF11.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> ok sorry thought you were saying you could not lock down CFIDE cozz you
> used web sockets.
>
> are you able to access the CFC directly via the browser using the cfc
> browser?
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Parul Bali 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks Russ, we do follow these practices on Production, but right now am
> > testing locally. So was just ruling that out as the issue that might be
> > breaking my Websockets' application which suddenly stopped working after
> > upgrading to CF11. So was wondering if anyone's faced such Websocket
> issues
> > after upgrading to CF11. Any pointers or troubleshooting tips would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Russ Michaels 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The master CFIDE must be locked down, otherwise you are opening
> yourself
> > up
> > > to be hacked.
> > > One of the standard best practices I have documented since CF6 is to
> > make a
> > > copy of the CFIDE with only the minimal required files and to use this
> as
> > > the vDir in your sites if required. This will then contain nothing
> > > dangerous that can be abused.
> > > It is also fully documented in many places, including the lock down
> guide
> > > how to lock down only the parts of the CFIDE that need locking down if
> > you
> > > choose to use the original copy on your sites.
> > > Have you tried this ?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Parul Bali 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Bryon,
> > > >
> > > > My custom channel listener does extend
> > 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener',
> > > > but if CFIDE's Channel Listener is inaccessible, I get the error that
> > my
> > > > custom ChannelListener is not  a valid ChannelListener handler. So
> > > locking
> > > > down of CFIDE is ruled out.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Parul Bali <
> parul.sarasw...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Bryon,
> > > > >
> > > > > I use my own custom channel listener CFC. So that's probably not
> the
> > > > > issue. Thanks for your help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jack,
> > > > >
> > > > > The websockets are enabled in CFAdmin. Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > It was working right before the upgrade to CF11, so wondering if
> > > there's
> > > > > anything to be kept in mind while upgrading - that I might have
> > missed.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Jack Traynor <
> traynor.j...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure
> > that
> > > is
> > > > >> still enabled after your upgrade.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Byron Mann 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Any chance you locked down the CFIDE on the new install and you
> > are
> > > > >> using
> > > > >> > the default listener CFIDE\websocket\ChannelListner.cfc?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d318518767eb3aa135858633ee-7ffe.html
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I haven't used websockets extensively, so I hope I'm not getting
> > you
> > > > off
> > > > >> > track.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Parul B <
> > parul.sarasw...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Hi,
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which
> uses
> > > > >> > > Coldfusion websockets and was earlier working great with CF10
> > and
> > > > >> Apache)
> > > > >> > > has now suddenly stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't
> > > > >> happening.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF
> connector.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this
> > issue
> > > > >> after
> > > > >> > > upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Russ Michaels]

ok sorry thought you were saying you could not lock down CFIDE cozz you
used web sockets.

are you able to access the CFC directly via the browser using the cfc
browser?

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Parul Bali 
wrote:

>
> Thanks Russ, we do follow these practices on Production, but right now am
> testing locally. So was just ruling that out as the issue that might be
> breaking my Websockets' application which suddenly stopped working after
> upgrading to CF11. So was wondering if anyone's faced such Websocket issues
> after upgrading to CF11. Any pointers or troubleshooting tips would be
> appreciated.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > The master CFIDE must be locked down, otherwise you are opening yourself
> up
> > to be hacked.
> > One of the standard best practices I have documented since CF6 is to
> make a
> > copy of the CFIDE with only the minimal required files and to use this as
> > the vDir in your sites if required. This will then contain nothing
> > dangerous that can be abused.
> > It is also fully documented in many places, including the lock down guide
> > how to lock down only the parts of the CFIDE that need locking down if
> you
> > choose to use the original copy on your sites.
> > Have you tried this ?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Parul Bali 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Bryon,
> > >
> > > My custom channel listener does extend
> 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener',
> > > but if CFIDE's Channel Listener is inaccessible, I get the error that
> my
> > > custom ChannelListener is not  a valid ChannelListener handler. So
> > locking
> > > down of CFIDE is ruled out.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Parul Bali 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Bryon,
> > > >
> > > > I use my own custom channel listener CFC. So that's probably not the
> > > > issue. Thanks for your help.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jack,
> > > >
> > > > The websockets are enabled in CFAdmin. Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > It was working right before the upgrade to CF11, so wondering if
> > there's
> > > > anything to be kept in mind while upgrading - that I might have
> missed.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Jack Traynor  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure
> that
> > is
> > > >> still enabled after your upgrade.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Byron Mann 
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Any chance you locked down the CFIDE on the new install and you
> are
> > > >> using
> > > >> > the default listener CFIDE\websocket\ChannelListner.cfc?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d318518767eb3aa135858633ee-7ffe.html
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I haven't used websockets extensively, so I hope I'm not getting
> you
> > > off
> > > >> > track.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Parul B <
> parul.sarasw...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Hi,
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which uses
> > > >> > > Coldfusion websockets and was earlier working great with CF10
> and
> > > >> Apache)
> > > >> > > has now suddenly stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't
> > > >> happening.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF connector.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this
> issue
> > > >> after
> > > >> > > upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Parul Bali]

Thanks Russ, we do follow these practices on Production, but right now am
testing locally. So was just ruling that out as the issue that might be
breaking my Websockets' application which suddenly stopped working after
upgrading to CF11. So was wondering if anyone's faced such Websocket issues
after upgrading to CF11. Any pointers or troubleshooting tips would be
appreciated.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> The master CFIDE must be locked down, otherwise you are opening yourself up
> to be hacked.
> One of the standard best practices I have documented since CF6 is to make a
> copy of the CFIDE with only the minimal required files and to use this as
> the vDir in your sites if required. This will then contain nothing
> dangerous that can be abused.
> It is also fully documented in many places, including the lock down guide
> how to lock down only the parts of the CFIDE that need locking down if you
> choose to use the original copy on your sites.
> Have you tried this ?
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Parul Bali 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Bryon,
> >
> > My custom channel listener does extend 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener',
> > but if CFIDE's Channel Listener is inaccessible, I get the error that my
> > custom ChannelListener is not  a valid ChannelListener handler. So
> locking
> > down of CFIDE is ruled out.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Parul Bali 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Bryon,
> > >
> > > I use my own custom channel listener CFC. So that's probably not the
> > > issue. Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > > Hi Jack,
> > >
> > > The websockets are enabled in CFAdmin. Thanks.
> > >
> > > It was working right before the upgrade to CF11, so wondering if
> there's
> > > anything to be kept in mind while upgrading - that I might have missed.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Jack Traynor 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure that
> is
> > >> still enabled after your upgrade.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Byron Mann 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Any chance you locked down the CFIDE on the new install and you are
> > >> using
> > >> > the default listener CFIDE\websocket\ChannelListner.cfc?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d318518767eb3aa135858633ee-7ffe.html
> > >> >
> > >> > I haven't used websockets extensively, so I hope I'm not getting you
> > off
> > >> > track.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Parul B 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which uses
> > >> > > Coldfusion websockets and was earlier working great with CF10 and
> > >> Apache)
> > >> > > has now suddenly stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't
> > >> happening.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF connector.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this issue
> > >> after
> > >> > > upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Russ Michaels]

The master CFIDE must be locked down, otherwise you are opening yourself up
to be hacked.
One of the standard best practices I have documented since CF6 is to make a
copy of the CFIDE with only the minimal required files and to use this as
the vDir in your sites if required. This will then contain nothing
dangerous that can be abused.
It is also fully documented in many places, including the lock down guide
how to lock down only the parts of the CFIDE that need locking down if you
choose to use the original copy on your sites.
Have you tried this ?


On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Parul Bali 
wrote:

>
> Bryon,
>
> My custom channel listener does extend 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener',
> but if CFIDE's Channel Listener is inaccessible, I get the error that my
> custom ChannelListener is not  a valid ChannelListener handler. So locking
> down of CFIDE is ruled out.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Parul Bali 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Bryon,
> >
> > I use my own custom channel listener CFC. So that's probably not the
> > issue. Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Hi Jack,
> >
> > The websockets are enabled in CFAdmin. Thanks.
> >
> > It was working right before the upgrade to CF11, so wondering if there's
> > anything to be kept in mind while upgrading - that I might have missed.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Jack Traynor 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure that is
> >> still enabled after your upgrade.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Byron Mann 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Any chance you locked down the CFIDE on the new install and you are
> >> using
> >> > the default listener CFIDE\websocket\ChannelListner.cfc?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d318518767eb3aa135858633ee-7ffe.html
> >> >
> >> > I haven't used websockets extensively, so I hope I'm not getting you
> off
> >> > track.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Parul B 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which uses
> >> > > Coldfusion websockets and was earlier working great with CF10 and
> >> Apache)
> >> > > has now suddenly stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't
> >> happening.
> >> > >
> >> > > I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF connector.
> >> > >
> >> > > Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this issue
> >> after
> >> > > upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
> 

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Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Parul Bali]

Bryon,

My custom channel listener does extend 'CFIDE.websocket.ChannelListener',
but if CFIDE's Channel Listener is inaccessible, I get the error that my
custom ChannelListener is not  a valid ChannelListener handler. So locking
down of CFIDE is ruled out.

Thanks

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Parul Bali 
wrote:

> Hi Bryon,
>
> I use my own custom channel listener CFC. So that's probably not the
> issue. Thanks for your help.
>
> Hi Jack,
>
> The websockets are enabled in CFAdmin. Thanks.
>
> It was working right before the upgrade to CF11, so wondering if there's
> anything to be kept in mind while upgrading - that I might have missed.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Jack Traynor 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure that is
>> still enabled after your upgrade.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Byron Mann  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Any chance you locked down the CFIDE on the new install and you are
>> using
>> > the default listener CFIDE\websocket\ChannelListner.cfc?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d318518767eb3aa135858633ee-7ffe.html
>> >
>> > I haven't used websockets extensively, so I hope I'm not getting you off
>> > track.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Parul B 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which uses
>> > > Coldfusion websockets and was earlier working great with CF10 and
>> Apache)
>> > > has now suddenly stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't
>> happening.
>> > >
>> > > I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF connector.
>> > >
>> > > Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this issue
>> after
>> > > upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 

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Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Parul Bali]

Hi Bryon,

I use my own custom channel listener CFC. So that's probably not the issue.
Thanks for your help.

Hi Jack,

The websockets are enabled in CFAdmin. Thanks.

It was working right before the upgrade to CF11, so wondering if there's
anything to be kept in mind while upgrading - that I might have missed.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Jack Traynor  wrote:

>
> There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure that is
> still enabled after your upgrade.
>
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Byron Mann  wrote:
>
> >
> > Any chance you locked down the CFIDE on the new install and you are using
> > the default listener CFIDE\websocket\ChannelListner.cfc?
> >
> >
> >
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d318518767eb3aa135858633ee-7ffe.html
> >
> > I haven't used websockets extensively, so I hope I'm not getting you off
> > track.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Parul B 
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which uses
> > > Coldfusion websockets and was earlier working great with CF10 and
> Apache)
> > > has now suddenly stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't
> happening.
> > >
> > > I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF connector.
> > >
> > > Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this issue after
> > > upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Jack Traynor]

There is an option in CFAdmin that enables websockets, make sure that is
still enabled after your upgrade.

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:06 AM, Byron Mann  wrote:

>
> Any chance you locked down the CFIDE on the new install and you are using
> the default listener CFIDE\websocket\ChannelListner.cfc?
>
>
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d318518767eb3aa135858633ee-7ffe.html
>
> I haven't used websockets extensively, so I hope I'm not getting you off
> track.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Parul B  wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which uses
> > Coldfusion websockets and was earlier working great with CF10 and Apache)
> > has now suddenly stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't happening.
> >
> > I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF connector.
> >
> > Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this issue after
> > upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated.
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Byron Mann]

Any chance you locked down the CFIDE on the new install and you are using
the default listener CFIDE\websocket\ChannelListner.cfc?

http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/10.0/Developing/WSe61e35da8d318518767eb3aa135858633ee-7ffe.html

I haven't used websockets extensively, so I hope I'm not getting you off
track.



On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Parul B  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which uses
> Coldfusion websockets and was earlier working great with CF10 and Apache)
> has now suddenly stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't happening.
>
> I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF connector.
>
> Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this issue after
> upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated.
>
> 

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Chat app (using CF websockets) has stopped working after upgrading to CF11

[Parul B]

Hi,

I recently upgraded to CF 11 and my chat application (which uses Coldfusion 
websockets and was earlier working great with CF10 and Apache) has now suddenly 
stopped working. Even a basic handshake isn't happening.

I've already tried disconnecting/reconnecting the CF connector. 

Any pointers in this regard (if anyone has come across this issue after 
upgrading to CF11) would be highly appreciated. 

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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Richard White]

Thanks Steve, it worked when I applied them one at a time!



> Most of them say they are cumulative, but I've always found it best to 
> 
> do them one at a time.
> 
> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> Adobe Community Professional
> Adobe Certified Expert
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> 
> http://cutterscrossing.com
> 
> 
> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
> https://www.packtpub.
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> 
> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Richard White]

OK thanks Steve, I'll give it a go and hopefully it will overcome the initial 
issue.
Thanks

> Most of them say they are cumulative, but I've always found it best to 
> 
> do them one at a time.
> 
> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> Adobe Community Professional
> Adobe Certified Expert
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> 
> http://cutterscrossing.com
> 
> 
> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
> https://www.packtpub.
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> 
> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Steve 'Cutter' Blades]

Most of them say they are cumulative, but I've always found it best to 
do them one at a time.

Steve 'Cutter' Blades
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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Richard White]

Thanks Carl, that helped alot!

So, I'd just to like check, if I run the hotfixes for 9.0.1 do i need to do 
them one at a time, or does the latest hotfix have all the previous hotfixes 
bundled in?

Many thanks,
Richard


> 9.02 is not an update - it is a full install (see Charlie Arehart's 
> blog 
> entry for an excellent explanation 
>  cfm/2013/8/19/understanding_ColdFusion_9.0.2_a_FAQ>). 
> As such, it cannot be installed over the top of 9.0 or 9.0.1.
> -Carl V.
> 
> On 2/13/2014 9:19 AM, Richard White wrote:
> > Just to double check, is it OK to install 9.02 update instead of all 
> the 9.01 hot fixes. I am sure 9.02 will contain all the fixes but just 
> wanted to make sure
> > thanks
> > Richard
> >
> >> Some of those updates in CF 9 were pretty tricky. I would checkout 
> the
> >>
> >> cfUpdater project for RIAForge. It can handle a lot of that 
> craziness
> >>
> >> for you.
> >>
> >> http://cfupdater.riaforge.org/
> >>
> >> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> >> Adobe Community Professional
> >> Adobe Certified Expert
> >> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> >> 
> >> http://cutterscrossing.com
> >>
> >>
> >> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
> >> https://www.packtpub.
> > com/learni> 
> ng-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
> >> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
> >>
> > 

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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Carl Von Stetten]

9.02 is not an update - it is a full install (see Charlie Arehart's blog 
entry for an excellent explanation 
).
 
As such, it cannot be installed over the top of 9.0 or 9.0.1.
-Carl V.

On 2/13/2014 9:19 AM, Richard White wrote:
> Just to double check, is it OK to install 9.02 update instead of all the 9.01 
> hot fixes. I am sure 9.02 will contain all the fixes but just wanted to make 
> sure
> thanks
> Richard
>
>> Some of those updates in CF 9 were pretty tricky. I would checkout the
>>
>> cfUpdater project for RIAForge. It can handle a lot of that craziness
>>
>> for you.
>>
>> http://cfupdater.riaforge.org/
>>
>> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
>> Adobe Community Professional
>> Adobe Certified Expert
>> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
>> 
>> http://cutterscrossing.com
>>
>>
>> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
>> https://www.packtpub.
> com/learni> 
> ng-ext-js-3-2-for-building-dynamic-desktop-style-user-interfaces/book
>> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
>>
> 

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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Richard White]

Just to double check, is it OK to install 9.02 update instead of all the 9.01 
hot fixes. I am sure 9.02 will contain all the fixes but just wanted to make 
sure
thanks
Richard

> Some of those updates in CF 9 were pretty tricky. I would checkout the 
> 
> cfUpdater project for RIAForge. It can handle a lot of that craziness 
> 
> for you.
> 
> http://cfupdater.riaforge.org/
> 
> Steve 'Cutter' Blades
> Adobe Community Professional
> Adobe Certified Expert
> Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
> 
> http://cutterscrossing.com
> 
> 
> Co-Author "Learning Ext JS 3.2" Packt Publishing 2010
> https://www.packtpub.
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> 
> "The best way to predict the future is to help create it"
> 

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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Richard White]

Thanks all. Yes I am installing the correct hot fixes and not renaming the jar 
files. I will try the cfupdater.
Thanks again
Richard

> Hi,
> 
> I am having a lot of problems trying to upgrade hot fixes.
> 
> I currently have 9.01 installed. I have downloaded 9.01 hot fix as 
> described here: http://helpx.adobe.
> com/coldfusion/kb/security-hotfix-coldfusion-8-8.html. However, after 
> applying the changes the CF Admin stops working and just shows a blank 
> page. 
> 
> I have followed the instructions diligently so wondered what else may 
> be going wrong. I tried to apply the 9.02 update but again the CF 
> admin stopped working and showed an error: 'Class not found: 
> coldfusion.security.ESAPIUtils'
> 
> I am lost as to what to try next and what the issue is. I think there 
> were 4 hot fixes for 9.01? Do I need to load them one at a time in 
> order, and then apply the 9.02 update?
> 
> Thanks for any help or pointers,
> Richard 

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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Steve 'Cutter' Blades]

Some of those updates in CF 9 were pretty tricky. I would checkout the 
cfUpdater project for RIAForge. It can handle a lot of that craziness 
for you.

http://cfupdater.riaforge.org/

Steve 'Cutter' Blades
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Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer

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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Russ Michaels]

also, make double sure you are installing the right hotfixes. Most times
when I have seen this issue it is because the wrong hotfixes were installed
(9.0 instead of 9.0.1)



On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Donnie Bachan (Gmail) <
donnie.bac...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Richard,
>
> Are you renaming any existing jar files or removing them completely? I have
> run into issues when the old hotfix files are just renamed, you should
> remove them from the folder completely (i.e. the ones in the UPDATES
> folder). Ensure that you have them backed up in another location though
> incase you need to restore them.
>
> Best Regards,
> Donnie
>
> Donnie Bachan
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>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Richard White 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am having a lot of problems trying to upgrade hot fixes.
> >
> > I currently have 9.01 installed. I have downloaded 9.01 hot fix as
> > described here:
> > http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/security-hotfix-coldfusion-8-8.html
> .
> > However, after applying the changes the CF Admin stops working and just
> > shows a blank page.
> >
> > I have followed the instructions diligently so wondered what else may be
> > going wrong. I tried to apply the 9.02 update but again the CF admin
> > stopped working and showed an error: 'Class not found:
> > coldfusion.security.ESAPIUtils'
> >
> > I am lost as to what to try next and what the issue is. I think there
> were
> > 4 hot fixes for 9.01? Do I need to load them one at a time in order, and
> > then apply the 9.02 update?
> >
> > Thanks for any help or pointers,
> > Richard
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Donnie Bachan (Gmail)]

Hi Richard,

Are you renaming any existing jar files or removing them completely? I have
run into issues when the old hotfix files are just renamed, you should
remove them from the folder completely (i.e. the ones in the UPDATES
folder). Ensure that you have them backed up in another location though
incase you need to restore them.

Best Regards,
Donnie

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On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Richard White  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I am having a lot of problems trying to upgrade hot fixes.
>
> I currently have 9.01 installed. I have downloaded 9.01 hot fix as
> described here:
> http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/security-hotfix-coldfusion-8-8.html.
> However, after applying the changes the CF Admin stops working and just
> shows a blank page.
>
> I have followed the instructions diligently so wondered what else may be
> going wrong. I tried to apply the 9.02 update but again the CF admin
> stopped working and showed an error: 'Class not found:
> coldfusion.security.ESAPIUtils'
>
> I am lost as to what to try next and what the issue is. I think there were
> 4 hot fixes for 9.01? Do I need to load them one at a time in order, and
> then apply the 9.02 update?
>
> Thanks for any help or pointers,
> Richard
>
> 

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Upgrading CF9 Hotfixes

[Richard White]

Hi,

I am having a lot of problems trying to upgrade hot fixes.

I currently have 9.01 installed. I have downloaded 9.01 hot fix as described 
here: http://helpx.adobe.com/coldfusion/kb/security-hotfix-coldfusion-8-8.html. 
However, after applying the changes the CF Admin stops working and just shows a 
blank page. 

I have followed the instructions diligently so wondered what else may be going 
wrong. I tried to apply the 9.02 update but again the CF admin stopped working 
and showed an error: 'Class not found: coldfusion.security.ESAPIUtils'

I am lost as to what to try next and what the issue is. I think there were 4 
hot fixes for 9.01? Do I need to load them one at a time in order, and then 
apply the 9.02 update?

Thanks for any help or pointers,
Richard 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

[Zad I]

Yes, we regularly send out emails to both internal and external users with no 
body in the email.  The only content that it includes is an attachment and 
subject.  But I guess it might be a good thing to include content from here on 
end, especially if it falls within the rules of RFC email compliance.  

Occasionally, I've seen this error happen right after a failed connectivity 
issue with ColdFusion and the SMTP server. If any emails just so happen to be 
in queue during the time of the SMTP connection error, then the mails in the 
spool folder all get sent to the Undeliverable folder. Then when our custom 
script kicks in to re-spool, it goes right back to undeliverable folder. The 
error in the logs gives us the same message about the body missing.  

>So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should
>test this to be sure.
>I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems
>that solves the issue.
>Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters.
>
>Russ Michaels
>www.michaels.me.uk
> On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, "Zad I"  wrote:
>
>> 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

[Zad I]

>So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should
>test this to be sure.
>I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems
>that solves the issue.
>Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters.
>
>Russ Michaels
>www.michaels.me.uk
> On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, "Zad I"  wrote:
>
>> 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

[Russ Michaels]

So are you saying that some emails with no body are sending? You should
test this to be sure.
I would still change these emails if I were you and add a body as it seems
that solves the issue.
Plus emails eith no body will br blocked by some mail filters.

Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
 On 19 Jun 2013 14:11, "Zad I"  wrote:

>
> Hmmm, if it is enforced then why so randomly?  I would've expected this to
> occur on every instance.  You do bring up a good point though in terms of
> reaching external users who may have rules that are a bit more strict than
> the norm.  Except, this seems to occur locally before it can even hit
> externally.
>
>
> >it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is
> >now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC
> >compliant.
> >As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send,
> then
> >you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original
> emails.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
>
> 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

[Zad I]

Hmmm, if it is enforced then why so randomly?  I would've expected this to 
occur on every instance.  You do bring up a good point though in terms of 
reaching external users who may have rules that are a bit more strict than the 
norm.  Except, this seems to occur locally before it can even hit externally.  


>it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is
>now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC
>compliant.
>As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send, then
>you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original emails.
>
>
>
>
>
>> 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

[Russ Michaels]

it is actually an RFC that an email must have a body, so I suspect that is
now enforced in javax.mail.which is a good thing, as this means it is RFC
compliant.
As you have said that adding a body to these messages makes them send, then
you have already found the solution, just add a body to the original emails.



On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Zad I  wrote:

>
> Ever since upgrading to CF10, we've been having some odd issues with our
> automated ColdFusion emails.  The processes always functioned properly in
> the past, but lately we've been getting some very out of the ordinary
> issues which I'll describe further below.
>
> We discover the problem usually from contacts who usually receive these
> emails on a daily basis with or without attachments.  We'll go to the
> CFMAIL directory for the corresponding server and find a slew of emails
> stuck in the 'Undelivr' emails.  In some cases, we can just move these
> emails to the Spool folder and they process fine, but in most cases they
> result in one of the two errors below:
>
> Error 1: In an email which normally does not contain a body and contains
> an attachment, the follow error is what we found in the logs:
> -
> "Error","scheduler-1","01/15/13","14:09:56",,"javax.mail.MessagingExce
> ption: missing body for message"
> javax.mail.MessagingException: missing body for message
> at
> coldfusion.mail.MailImpl.createMessage(MailImpl.java:696)
> at
> coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliver(MailSpooler.java:1295)
> at
> coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.sendMail(MailSpooler.java:1197)
> at
> coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliverFast(MailSpooler.java:1657)
> at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.run(MailSpooler.java:1567)
> at
> coldfusion.scheduling.ThreadPool.run(ThreadPool.java:211)
> at
> coldfusion.scheduling.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:71)
> ---
> Placing these emails that have always been sent out this way in the past
> without an attachment in the spool directory causes it to go right back in
> the 'Undelivr' folder and resulting in the same error.  We ended up having
> to modify the email file and add random content in the body message, place
> it back in the spool directory, and it went through.  - Mind boggling.
>
> Error 2:
> --
> "Error","scheduler-2","02/04/13","09:08:17",,"javax.mail.MessagingExce
> ption: Exception reading response;   nested exception is:
>  java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
>
> Both errors occur randomly and we have not been able to find out what
> causes them randomly from time to time.  All other emails go through fine,
> but certain emails will never go out and end up in the 'Undelivr' folder.
>
> We are running them on Windows Server 2008 64bit.
>
> 

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Re: CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

[Wil Genovese]

Please attach the code used to generate the emails. We will need that to have 
any ideas on why they are not working.


Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
www.cfwebtools.com

wilg...@trunkful.com
www.trunkful.com

On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Zad I  wrote:

> 
> Ever since upgrading to CF10, we've been having some odd issues with our 
> automated ColdFusion emails.  The processes always functioned properly in the 
> past, but lately we've been getting some very out of the ordinary issues 
> which I'll describe further below.
> 
> We discover the problem usually from contacts who usually receive these 
> emails on a daily basis with or without attachments.  We'll go to the CFMAIL 
> directory for the corresponding server and find a slew of emails stuck in the 
> 'Undelivr' emails.  In some cases, we can just move these emails to the Spool 
> folder and they process fine, but in most cases they result in one of the two 
> errors below:
> 
> Error 1: In an email which normally does not contain a body and contains an 
> attachment, the follow error is what we found in the logs:
> -
> "Error","scheduler-1","01/15/13","14:09:56",,"javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: 
> missing body for message"
> javax.mail.MessagingException: missing body for message
>at coldfusion.mail.MailImpl.createMessage(MailImpl.java:696)
>at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliver(MailSpooler.java:1295)
>at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.sendMail(MailSpooler.java:1197)
>at 
> coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliverFast(MailSpooler.java:1657)
>at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.run(MailSpooler.java:1567)
>at coldfusion.scheduling.ThreadPool.run(ThreadPool.java:211)
>at coldfusion.scheduling.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:71)
> ---
> Placing these emails that have always been sent out this way in the past 
> without an attachment in the spool directory causes it to go right back in 
> the 'Undelivr' folder and resulting in the same error.  We ended up having to 
> modify the email file and add random content in the body message, place it 
> back in the spool directory, and it went through.  - Mind boggling.
> 
> Error 2:
> --
> "Error","scheduler-2","02/04/13","09:08:17",,"javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: 
> Exception reading response;   nested exception is:  
> java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
> 
> Both errors occur randomly and we have not been able to find out what causes 
> them randomly from time to time.  All other emails go through fine, but 
> certain emails will never go out and end up in the 'Undelivr' folder. 
> 
> We are running them on Windows Server 2008 64bit. 
> 
> 

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CFMail Issues since Upgrading to CF10

[Zad I]

Ever since upgrading to CF10, we've been having some odd issues with our 
automated ColdFusion emails.  The processes always functioned properly in the 
past, but lately we've been getting some very out of the ordinary issues which 
I'll describe further below.
 
We discover the problem usually from contacts who usually receive these emails 
on a daily basis with or without attachments.  We'll go to the CFMAIL directory 
for the corresponding server and find a slew of emails stuck in the 'Undelivr' 
emails.  In some cases, we can just move these emails to the Spool folder and 
they process fine, but in most cases they result in one of the two errors below:
 
Error 1: In an email which normally does not contain a body and contains an 
attachment, the follow error is what we found in the logs:
-
"Error","scheduler-1","01/15/13","14:09:56",,"javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: 
missing body for message"
javax.mail.MessagingException: missing body for message
at coldfusion.mail.MailImpl.createMessage(MailImpl.java:696)
at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliver(MailSpooler.java:1295)
at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.sendMail(MailSpooler.java:1197)
at 
coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.deliverFast(MailSpooler.java:1657)
at coldfusion.mail.MailSpooler.run(MailSpooler.java:1567)
at coldfusion.scheduling.ThreadPool.run(ThreadPool.java:211)
at coldfusion.scheduling.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:71)
---
Placing these emails that have always been sent out this way in the past 
without an attachment in the spool directory causes it to go right back in the 
'Undelivr' folder and resulting in the same error.  We ended up having to 
modify the email file and add random content in the body message, place it back 
in the spool directory, and it went through.  - Mind boggling.
 
Error 2:
--
"Error","scheduler-2","02/04/13","09:08:17",,"javax.mail.MessagingExce ption: 
Exception reading response;   nested exception is:
java.net.SocketException: Connection reset"
 
Both errors occur randomly and we have not been able to find out what causes 
them randomly from time to time.  All other emails go through fine, but certain 
emails will never go out and end up in the 'Undelivr' folder. 
 
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Issue with accessing session vars from CFCs after upgrading to CF 10

[Michael Sale]

Having a weird issue since upgrading from CF 901 to 10.  I'm calling CFC files 
over HTTP (using Ext/Sencha) and it seems when I do, I lose the session scope 
alltogether.  The CFCs are set to allow remote access and were all working just 
fine before the upgrade.  I know the session scope is there, because if I run a 
standard CFM on the server, all is well and I can dump the session, and work 
with session vars.  I'm pulling my hair out and was wondering if anyone has any 
ideas.  Here are the install stats: CF 10 Enterprise running on Linux, web 
server is iPlanet/Oracle version 7.0.17, and we are clustering.  Thanks! 

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Upgrading CF8 to CF9 breaking existing lucene stuff?

[Terry Ford]

Hi, I'm having an issue in a port from CF8 to CF9.

We created our own simple lucene indexing stuff on CF8, and are simply trying 
to get it to work on CF9.

Right now I'm having problems with this line, which works fine under CF8:

luceneQuery = queryParser.parse(keyword, "body", analyzer);

It is returning error "The parse method was not found. Either there are no 
methods with the specified method name and argument types or the parse method 
is overloaded with argument types that ColdFusion cannot decipher reliably. 
ColdFusion found 0 methods that match the provided arguments. If this is a Java 
object and you verified that the method exists, use the javacast function to 
reduce ambiguity. "

If I do a CFDUMP on queryParser, there indeed is a parse() function listed.

Does anyone have any idea why CF9 is throwing the error above, and what we can 
do to fix it?  I'd rather not mess around with Solr for now -- just want to get 
our existing stuff working.

Thanks 

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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

[Rick Root]

Found a setting in MDaemon that restricted the maximum concurrent
incoming connections.  Since CF was set to 30 threads and we have 3
isntances, and MDaemon set to only accept 50 incoming connections,
that was PROBABLY causing the issue.

Thanks all.

Rick

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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

[Steven Durette]

Actually the CF error is correct. CF tried to connect to the smtp server and 
all it got back was error 421. So connection couldn't be made.

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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

[Rick Root]

AH, so "Could not connect to SMTP Server" reported by coldfusion is
not really correct because it DID connect to the SMTP server, it just
couldn't send the message.

Okay, makes sense.

On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Steven Durette  wrote:
>
> Smtp error 421 is "the service is not available and the connection will be 
> closed"
>
> It is from the smtp server not ColdFusion, so you issue is the smtp server.
>
> Steve
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Rick Root  wrote:
>
>>
>> We've been having significantly more trouble getting CF to send mail
>> to our MDaemon server ... after we upgraded to CF9, we started seeing
>> a lot of these errors in the mail.log:
>>
>> ["Error","scheduler-4","12/10/10","11:40:51",,"Could not connect to
>> SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421"
>> and
>> ["Error","mailWorker-6","12/10/10","10:50:29",,"Could not connect to
>> SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421
>>
>> (the only difference there is the thread that is logging the error I guess)
>>
>> However, the mail server is absolutely up and running and the vast
>> majority of our mail IS going out.
>>
>> In the mail settings, we have "Maintain connection.." checked ... the
>> timeout is set to 60 seconds..
>>
>> Would a connection timeout be reported as  response 421?
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>
> 

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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

[Steven Durette]

Smtp error 421 is "the service is not available and the connection will be 
closed" 

It is from the smtp server not ColdFusion, so you issue is the smtp server.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Rick Root  wrote:

> 
> We've been having significantly more trouble getting CF to send mail
> to our MDaemon server ... after we upgraded to CF9, we started seeing
> a lot of these errors in the mail.log:
> 
> ["Error","scheduler-4","12/10/10","11:40:51",,"Could not connect to
> SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421"
> and
> ["Error","mailWorker-6","12/10/10","10:50:29",,"Could not connect to
> SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421
> 
> (the only difference there is the thread that is logging the error I guess)
> 
> However, the mail server is absolutely up and running and the vast
> majority of our mail IS going out.
> 
> In the mail settings, we have "Maintain connection.." checked ... the
> timeout is set to 60 seconds..
> 
> Would a connection timeout be reported as  response 421?
> 
> Rick
> 
> 

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Re: CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

[Ian Skinner]

  On 12/10/2010 9:04 AM, Rick Root wrote:
> ["Error","scheduler-4","12/10/10","11:40:51",,"Could not connect to
> SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421"
> and
> ["Error","mailWorker-6","12/10/10","10:50:29",,"Could not connect to
> SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421
>

Does the user that your ColdFusion run as have permissions to make 
connections to the mail server?


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CFMail problem since upgrading to CF9

[Rick Root]

We've been having significantly more trouble getting CF to send mail
to our MDaemon server ... after we upgraded to CF9, we started seeing
a lot of these errors in the mail.log:

["Error","scheduler-4","12/10/10","11:40:51",,"Could not connect to
SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421"
and
["Error","mailWorker-6","12/10/10","10:50:29",,"Could not connect to
SMTP host: 69.41.172.242, port: 25, response: 421

(the only difference there is the thread that is logging the error I guess)

However, the mail server is absolutely up and running and the vast
majority of our mail IS going out.

In the mail settings, we have "Maintain connection.." checked ... the
timeout is set to 60 seconds..

Would a connection timeout be reported as  response 421?

Rick

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Re: Upgrading ColdFusion from MX 7 to 9 - Any Advice, Guidance, Best Practices, Etc?

[Sean Corfield]

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Christian N. Abad
 wrote:
> I'm in the process of having a new dedicated server being built by
> Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com) that will be running, among other
> things, ColdFusion 9.  Once the build is completed in the next couple days,
> I will be systematically moving a few dozen websites from the existing box
> running CF MX 7 to the new box running CF 9.

One thing you'll notice is that CF9 is dramatically faster than CFMX7!
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Re: Upgrading ColdFusion from MX 7 to 9 - Any Advice, Guidance, Best Practices, Etc?

[Adrocknaphobia]

Josh Adams recently posted a collection of information on the topic.
http://blog.joshuaadams.com/index.cfm/2010/11/2/Upgrading-from-ColdFusion-MX-7-or-ColdFusion-8-to-ColdFusion-9

<http://blog.joshuaadams.com/index.cfm/2010/11/2/Upgrading-from-ColdFusion-MX-7-or-ColdFusion-8-to-ColdFusion-9>
-Adam

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> Make sure you have all the hotfixes and updates installed, there were a few
> things that got screwed with CF9 functionality wise that have since been
> fixed plus some security issues as well. Other than that I think you will
> be
> pretty safe, we have not had any issues moving customers to CF9.
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Russ Michaels
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> my blog: http://russ.michaels.me.uk/
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>
>
>
> 

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RE: Upgrading ColdFusion from MX 7 to 9 - Any Advice, Guidance, Best Practices, Etc?

[Russ Michaels]

Make sure you have all the hotfixes and updates installed, there were a few
things that got screwed with CF9 functionality wise that have since been
fixed plus some security issues as well. Other than that I think you will be
pretty safe, we have not had any issues moving customers to CF9.


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Upgrading ColdFusion from MX 7 to 9 - Any Advice, Guidance, Best Practices, Etc?

[Christian N. Abad]

Fellow CF Zealots:

 

I'm in the process of having a new dedicated server being built by
Hosting.com (formerly HostMySite.com) that will be running, among other
things, ColdFusion 9.  Once the build is completed in the next couple days,
I will be systematically moving a few dozen websites from the existing box
running CF MX 7 to the new box running CF 9.

 

I'm looking for any type of input or feedback regarding any gotchas,
pitfalls, etc. that I should be aware of during the upgrade.

 

Also, does anyone have any type of "best practices" document, "upgrade
guide" or whitepaper that I could review?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated; thank you so very much in advance!

 

Sincerely,

 

Christian N. Abad - President

 

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1210 McLaughlin Drive

Charlotte, NC 28212

http://www.AccessibleComputing.com

 

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Re: Upgrading to Coldfusion 8

[Larry Lyons]

Rick,

You may find this blog posting by Mike Henke helpful:

http://www.henke.ws/post.cfm/multiple-coldfusion-version-and-engines-on-adobe-coldfusion-with-jrun

>List,
>
>Can I install Coldfusion 9 multi-server on a server already running
>Coldfusion 8 multi-server?  I'd like to get it installed, get all the
>instances set up and configured BEFORE taking the site down
>reconfigure the web server connections... but I'm not sure if this is
>possible.  I have googled and found instructions for installing both,
>but it requires installing the new version FIRST (CF9) and then
>installing CF8 in J2EE mode, and that doesn't really work for this
>kind of "upgrade"
>
>Rick 

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Re: Upgrading to Coldfusion 8

[John M Bliss]

Synchronicity:  "Installing Multiple Versions of ColdFusion Together", with
Daria Norris

http://www.meetup.com/coldfusionmeetup/calendar/14515796/


On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Matthew Williams
wrote:

>
>  It's fairly easy to do.
>
>* Choose multi-server EAR/WAR during the CF install.  Choose the EAR
>  specifically.
>* Create a new folder in /servers/.
>* Expand the EAR/WAR into folders.  Use the CF8 folders as an
>  example.  cfusion-ear will have a cfusion-war folder and a
>  META-INF folder.  cfusion-war will have CFIDE and WEB-INF.  There
>  also appears to be a crossdomain.xml in my cfusion-war folder for CF9.
>* COPY the application.xml from the working CF8
>  cfusion-ear/cfusion-war/META-INF folder into the new folder
>  cfusion-ear/cfusion-war/META-INF.  The application.xml created by
>  the install will NOT work with JRun.  Go figure.
>* Load up the JRun admin at port 8000.  I have this service set to
>  manual, but it may already be on.  The username is admin, password
>  is the password from when you first installed CF8.  It can be
>  found (unencrypted) in
>  /servers/admin/SERVER-INF/jrun-users.xml.
>* You should see a link to create a new instance.  Go for it.
>* Name the instance the .  It will automagically pic
>  up the EAR/WAR you exploded into that folder
>* Create a service for it with /bin/jrunsvc -install
>"Macromedia JRun "
>  "Macromedia JRun "
>* profit
>
> Now, I'm not sure you're going to get SOLR along with this, but I'm
> fairly sure you can find that separate somewhere in the install
> folders.  Some optional steps include downloading an updated JRE.  You
> could also create a separate jvm.config and specify that during jrunsvc
> -install.
>
>
> Matthew Williams
> Geodesic GraFX
> www.geodesicgrafx.com/blog
>
>
> 

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Re: Upgrading to Coldfusion 8

[Matthew Williams]

  It's fairly easy to do.

* Choose multi-server EAR/WAR during the CF install.  Choose the EAR
  specifically.
* Create a new folder in /servers/.
* Expand the EAR/WAR into folders.  Use the CF8 folders as an
  example.  cfusion-ear will have a cfusion-war folder and a
  META-INF folder.  cfusion-war will have CFIDE and WEB-INF.  There
  also appears to be a crossdomain.xml in my cfusion-war folder for CF9.
* COPY the application.xml from the working CF8
  cfusion-ear/cfusion-war/META-INF folder into the new folder
  cfusion-ear/cfusion-war/META-INF.  The application.xml created by
  the install will NOT work with JRun.  Go figure.
* Load up the JRun admin at port 8000.  I have this service set to
  manual, but it may already be on.  The username is admin, password
  is the password from when you first installed CF8.  It can be
  found (unencrypted) in
  /servers/admin/SERVER-INF/jrun-users.xml.
* You should see a link to create a new instance.  Go for it.
* Name the instance the .  It will automagically pic
  up the EAR/WAR you exploded into that folder
* Create a service for it with /bin/jrunsvc -install
"Macromedia JRun "
  "Macromedia JRun "
* profit

Now, I'm not sure you're going to get SOLR along with this, but I'm 
fairly sure you can find that separate somewhere in the install 
folders.  Some optional steps include downloading an updated JRE.  You 
could also create a separate jvm.config and specify that during jrunsvc 
-install.


Matthew Williams
Geodesic GraFX
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RE: Upgrading to Coldfusion 8

[Mark A. Kruger]

Rick,

I've not done this for multi-server but I just did it for stand-alone so I
suspect it's possible. In installed using the internal web server so I could
configure the server using car files and manual settings. So I had both of
them running. Then I changed the JVM file for CF9 to the prod settings,
removed the apache connectors for cf 8 and installed the ones for CF 9. That
worked well. With multiserver I suspect you will have to be careful with the
ports and port conflicts - and I would sort of hesitate to do this on a
"live" server without a test bed to proof the procedure. 

-mark

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-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:rick.r...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:46 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Upgrading to Coldfusion 8


List,

Can I install Coldfusion 9 multi-server on a server already running
Coldfusion 8 multi-server?  I'd like to get it installed, get all the
instances set up and configured BEFORE taking the site down
reconfigure the web server connections... but I'm not sure if this is
possible.  I have googled and found instructions for installing both,
but it requires installing the new version FIRST (CF9) and then
installing CF8 in J2EE mode, and that doesn't really work for this
kind of "upgrade"

Rick



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Upgrading to Coldfusion 8

[Rick Root]

List,

Can I install Coldfusion 9 multi-server on a server already running
Coldfusion 8 multi-server?  I'd like to get it installed, get all the
instances set up and configured BEFORE taking the site down
reconfigure the web server connections... but I'm not sure if this is
possible.  I have googled and found instructions for installing both,
but it requires installing the new version FIRST (CF9) and then
installing CF8 in J2EE mode, and that doesn't really work for this
kind of "upgrade"

Rick

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Re: Upgrading Multi-home CF8 to CF9 on a Solaris 10 server

[Matthew Williams]

Don't forget that there was also a JRun update between 8-9.  If you've 
not already run it, unintalling the whole shebang will also get you that 
update.


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Re: Upgrading Multi-home CF8 to CF9 on a Solaris 10 server

[Dave Watts]

> What do I need to know about upgrading from CF8 to CF9 on a Solaris 10
> server?  Do I dare to try some type of upgrade path?  Much of what I
> have read on the 'internets' say that archive, uninstall, install clean,
> and restore archive is a more recommended path.  Do the members of
> CF-Talk agree with this?

There is no upgrade path for multi-server. There is only uninstall and
reinstall, if you want to replace one multi-server version with
another.

> If so, how does one go about uninstalling CF8 from a Solaris 10 machine,
> I've never done that before.  I see the following instructions in the
> documentation:
>
> Uninstall ColdFusion from UNIX
>
>    1. Log in as root.
>
>    2. Enter the following command to go to the cf_webapp_root/uninstall
> directory:
>       cd cf_webapp_root/uninstall
>
>    3. Enter the following command:
>       ./uninstall.sh
>
>    4. When the program completes, remove any remaining files and
> directories in the cf_webapp_root directory.
>
> Does the "cf_webapp_root" indicate I need to do this once for each
> ColdFusion instance|server in the JRun directory?  If so, what does this
> do with the JRun - if anything?  Does JRun need to be uninstalled
> separately or not at all?

Fortunately, there isn't much that can go wrong uninstalling. Just
follow those instructions, and this will uninstall JRun along with
your CF instances. If you have /CFIDE files in your web root, you can
go ahead and delete those as well manually. Since you're using Apache,
you can simply edit httpd.conf to remove the connection between Apache
and CF if the uninstaller doesn't do that for you (and if you're using
multiple Apache virtual hosts, you'll almost certainly end up editing
this manually anyway).

> Am I looking at this completely wrong, do I install CF9 just as new
> sever(s) under my existing JRun?  Is CF9 expecting to use an upgraded
> JVM then came with the original CF8?  If it wants new can I upgrade the
> JVM without bothering the CF8 servers and then install new CF9 server.

You could install a CF9 EAR into your existing CF8/JRun install, but
CF9 does use a newer JVM, which you'd need to set up separately if you
took this approach. Upgrading your JVM will, by default, bother your
CF8 servers, since by default all JRun instances use the same JVM. You
can, of course, change that, but I think the simplest approach is just
to uninstall the whole thing. Make sure you save whatever settings you
want to preserve by creating a CAR file before uninstalling.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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Upgrading Multi-home CF8 to CF9 on a Solaris 10 server

[Ian Skinner]

What do I need to know about upgrading from CF8 to CF9 on a Solaris 10 
server?  Do I dare to try some type of upgrade path?  Much of what I 
have read on the 'internets' say that archive, uninstall, install clean, 
and restore archive is a more recommended path.  Do the members of 
CF-Talk agree with this?

If so, how does one go about uninstalling CF8 from a Solaris 10 machine, 
I've never done that before.  I see the following instructions in the 
documentation:

Uninstall ColdFusion from UNIX

1. Log in as root.

2. Enter the following command to go to the cf_webapp_root/uninstall 
directory:
   cd cf_webapp_root/uninstall

3. Enter the following command:
   ./uninstall.sh

4. When the program completes, remove any remaining files and 
directories in the cf_webapp_root directory.

Does the "cf_webapp_root" indicate I need to do this once for each 
ColdFusion instance|server in the JRun directory?  If so, what does this 
do with the JRun - if anything?  Does JRun need to be uninstalled 
separately or not at all?

*** *OR* ***

Am I looking at this completely wrong, do I install CF9 just as new 
sever(s) under my existing JRun?  Is CF9 expecting to use an upgraded 
JVM then came with the original CF8?  If it wants new can I upgrade the 
JVM without bothering the CF8 servers and then install new CF9 server.

As you can see, I have many questions since I am such a newbe at this 
Solaris flavor of CF and I suspect little of my decade of experience 
with installing, uninstalling and upgrading Windows flavors apply to 
this new situation.

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Upgrading from CF MX6.1 to 8 - Verity question....

[Dave Phillips]

Hi all,

 

We have an app that has been in 6.1 for years and we are finally working on
upgrading it to CF 8.  My questions is simple, although I'm afraid the
answer will not be:

 

Why does it take 5 times as long to create a collection in CF 8 as it does
to create a collection CF MX 6.1 ?

 

We have a module that creates about 24 collections.  Each collection takes
about 2 seconds to create in MX 6.1.  In CF 8, they take around 10-12
seconds to create.  This is Windows platform.  I even checked to see if CF 8
collections have more files, and while, an empty collection in MX 6.1 has 27
files and 20 folders, an empty collection in CF 8 has 30 files, but only 9
folders.  47 hits to the OS in MX 6.1 and only 39 in CF 8 and it still takes
5 times as long.

 

We have other modules that actually do indexing in these collections and
those have also been running about 5 times as long.

 

Has anyone run into this and, if so, can it be explained?  Is there possibly
something wrong?

 

Thanks!

 

Dave Phillips



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Re: Upgrading CF8 to use ExtJS 2.2

[Gerald Guido]

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Cutter (CFRelated) <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you want to use Ext 2.2, you have to write your implementation from
> scratch (which you'll want to do, if you want more advanced functionality).
>

This is true... However, you might want to look at Justin Carter's CF Port.
It uses EXT 2.1
http://coldext.riaforge.org/

It shave off a bit of the learning curve on getting some editable grids up
and running on CF 7. He was also gracious enough to help me out with a
couple of problems.

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Re: Upgrading CF8 to use ExtJS 2.2

[Cutter (CFRelated)]

You cannot upgrade the ExtJS library that is used by the CF8 Ajax 
components. Architecture of the Ext library was changed significantly 
between Ext 1.x and 2.x, and Adobe's Java implementation, which writes 
the javascript hooks for you when using the appropriate cf tags, would 
not work properly, were you to 'update' the internal library.

If you want to use Ext 2.2, you have to write your implementation from 
scratch (which you'll want to do, if you want more advanced functionality).

Steve "Cutter" Blades
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Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer
_
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Dave Hatz wrote:
> I am looking to upgrade the ExtJS library from 1.1 in CF8 to 2.2.  I am 
> looking for any details on how to upgrade ExtJS to 2.2 in CF8.  Can someone 
> please provide any details on where I can find this information?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Upgrading CF8 to use ExtJS 2.2

[Dave Hatz]

I am looking to upgrade the ExtJS library from 1.1 in CF8 to 2.2.  I am looking 
for any details on how to upgrade ExtJS to 2.2 in CF8.  Can someone please 
provide any details on where I can find this information?



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Re: cfimage - upgrading to from older server

[Mike Little]

they have indeed advised that there is to be an upgrade to the hotfix. 
hopefully this sorts it out.

interestingly enough, it was the same images that would lock up (and they were 
not large either).

weird.


>advise your host to upgrade to cf8.0.1 and apply the latest hotfix that
>solves this issue.
>
>Azadi Saryev
>Sabai-dee.com
>http://www.sabai-dee.com/
>
>
>
>Mike Little wrote:
>> 

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Re: cfimage - upgrading to from older server

[Azadi Saryev]

advise your host to upgrade to cf8.0.1 and apply the latest hotfix that
solves this issue.

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Mike Little wrote:
> hi guys,
>
> just having a few problems with a script i have used on older cf servers (6 
> and 7). i have attempted upgrading it to using the new cfimage tag. it seems 
> to break down near the end when trying to delete the existing uploaded file. 
> the file seems to be locked and access is denied.
>
> my webhost have too restart the cfapplication in order to unlock the files.
>
> has anyone had this trouble OR know of a better way i should now be handling 
> this??
>
> mike
>
>  destination="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\" 
> nameconflict="makeunique" accept="image/jpg, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, 
> image/gif, image/png">
>   
>
>   
>source="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#cffile.serverFile#" 
> structname="imageInfo" />
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>   
>(imageInfo.height GT 87)>
>   
>   
>   
>   
>& '.' & cffile.serverFileExt>
>   
>   
>   
>source="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#cffile.serverFile#" 
> action="resize" width="413" height="" 
> destination="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#new_image_name#" 
> quality="0.8">
>   
>   
>   
>source="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#cffile.serverFile#" 
> action="resize" width="115" height="" 
> destination="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\thumb_#new_image_name#"
>  quality="0.8">
>   
>source="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#cffile.serverFile#" 
> destination="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\thumb_#new_image_name#">
>   
>   
>   
>   
>fileExists("#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#cffile.serverFile#")>
>File="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#cffile.serverFile#">
>   
>   
>source="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#cffile.serverFile#" 
> destination="#application.settings.fileDir#project_images\#new_image_name#">
>   
>   
>
>
> 

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RE: cfimage - upgrading to from older server

[Justin D. Scott]

> my webhost have too restart the cfapplication in
> order to unlock the files.

I've found that some of these "file in use" situations can be averted by
renaming the file just before deleting it.  Set a variable with a UUID,
rename the file, then delete.  I've not run into this problem on CF8 and
CFIMAGE, but it's worked for me in the past when files would get locked up.


-Justin Scott


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cfimage - upgrading to from older server

[Mike Little]

hi guys,

just having a few problems with a script i have used on older cf servers (6 and 
7). i have attempted upgrading it to using the new cfimage tag. it seems to 
break down near the end when trying to delete the existing uploaded file. the 
file seems to be locked and access is denied.

my webhost have too restart the cfapplication in order to unlock the files.

has anyone had this trouble OR know of a better way i should now be handling 
this??

mike



 



































 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Tom Chiverton]

On Friday 14 Dec 2007, Dan G. Switzer, II wrote:
> Do you have any of CF8's Server Monitoring enabled? It's known to cause
> performance issues and should only be used to debug problems; 

You can (I'd argue should) have the first level of monitoring enabled.

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RE: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Dan G. Switzer, II]

>>Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.
>After
>>starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
>>less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
>>cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
>>up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
>>loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
>>any code changes since upgrading.
>>Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>>
>
>I have had this EXACT problem!  Have you found a solution?  A fire-
>breathing, quad-processor, dual core Dell that just locks up - weird!

Do you have any of CF8's Server Monitoring enabled? It's known to cause
performance issues and should only be used to debug problems; you shouldn't
enable it in normal circumstances.

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RE: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Will Swain]

Might be worth downloading FusionReactor and installing that. I think you
get a 10 day trial. You'll get pretty much all the monitoring functionality
that you'd get with Enterprise. 

http://www.fusion-reactor.com/fr/downloads.cfm?gclid=CJ30m97ap5ACFSJIEgod30O
H7Q

Cheers

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-Original Message-
From: Bob Hendren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 14 December 2007 11:31
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

>Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  
>After starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, 
>sometimes less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor 
>load.  (It's a 2 cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the 
>processor load will jump up to about 25% and stay there until CF is 
>restarted. Pages then start loading very sluggishly.  This never 
>happened with CF7 and I haven't made any code changes since upgrading.
>Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>

I have had this EXACT problem!  Have you found a solution?  A
fire-breathing, quad-processor, dual core Dell that just locks up - weird!

>
>Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard 
>edition of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.



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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Bob Hendren]

>Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
>starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
>less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
>cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
>up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
>loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
>any code changes since upgrading.
>Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>

I have had this EXACT problem!  Have you found a solution?  A fire-breathing, 
quad-processor, dual core Dell that just locks up - weird!

>
>Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard edition
>of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor. 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Jochem van Dieten]

Kevin Pompei wrote:
> Well I've isolated the problem down.  It happens 1 hour and 7 minutes after
> restart which it time that is set for the client stores to be purged.  This
> must be a bug in CF because once it starts the one CPU core is at 100% and
> stays there even for days until the server is restarted.

Do you store client variables in the registry? If so, don't. And make 
sure you change the default storage from Registry to None. If you store 
client variables in the database you should be able to see what SQL CF 
executes or just disable automatic purging and run your own purge 
directly on the 2 tables from a scheduled task.

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Kevin Pompei]

Well I've isolated the problem down.  It happens 1 hour and 7 minutes after
restart which it time that is set for the client stores to be purged.  This
must be a bug in CF because once it starts the one CPU core is at 100% and
stays there even for days until the server is restarted.


On 10/30/07, Mark A Kruger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That makes me think you should try a different GC... How about the
> concMarksweep GC? Theoretically it should handle scheduling across
> multiple
> procs better than the default parallel GC. Can you post your java args
> from
> the JVM.config file - and the general config of the server?
>
> -Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Pompei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:53 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8
>
> You're correct.  One core is at 100%.
>
> On 10/29/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On a four core system, a CPU pegged at 25% means one core is at 100%;
> > CF has probably filled the JVM memory and is permanently garbage
> > collecting.
> >
> > I agree with Dave - get FusionReactor and set a memory alert threshold
> > in the crash prevention options.
> >
> > On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating
> > problem.  After
> > > starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours,
> > sometimes
> > > less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.
> > > (It's a
> > 2
> > > cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load
> > > will
> > jump
> > > up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then
> > > start loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I
> > > haven't
> > made
> > > any code changes since upgrading.
> > > Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
> >
> > --
> > mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
> > http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Mark A Kruger]

That makes me think you should try a different GC... How about the
concMarksweep GC? Theoretically it should handle scheduling across multiple
procs better than the default parallel GC. Can you post your java args from
the JVM.config file - and the general config of the server?

-Mark 

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Pompei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

You're correct.  One core is at 100%.

On 10/29/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On a four core system, a CPU pegged at 25% means one core is at 100%; 
> CF has probably filled the JVM memory and is permanently garbage 
> collecting.
>
> I agree with Dave - get FusionReactor and set a memory alert threshold 
> in the crash prevention options.
>
> On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating
> problem.  After
> > starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours,
> sometimes
> > less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  
> > (It's a
> 2
> > cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load 
> > will
> jump
> > up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then 
> > start loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I 
> > haven't
> made
> > any code changes since upgrading.
> > Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>
> --
> mxAjax / CFAjax docs and other useful articles:
> http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
>
> 



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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Kevin Pompei]

Thanks Dave.  I'll try this.

On 10/29/07, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the
> > standard edition of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.
>
> I suggest you invest in one of the other monitoring tools available -
> SeeFusion or FusionReactor. You will likely find the problem a lot faster,
> and it'll pay for itself on its first use as a result.
>
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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Kevin Pompei]

You're correct.  One core is at 100%.

On 10/29/07, James Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On a four core system, a CPU pegged at 25% means one core is at 100%;
> CF has probably filled the JVM memory and is permanently garbage
> collecting.
>
> I agree with Dave - get FusionReactor and set a memory alert threshold
> in the crash prevention options.
>
> On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating
> problem.  After
> > starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours,
> sometimes
> > less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a
> 2
> > cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will
> jump
> > up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
> > loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't
> made
> > any code changes since upgrading.
> > Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>
> --
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> http://www.bifrost.com.au/blog/
>
> 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Jochem van Dieten]

Kevin Pompei wrote:
> Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
> starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
> less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
> cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
> up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted.

I have seen this before on systems that had profiling enabled, but

> Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard edition
> of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.

that can not be your problem.


If you installed CF less then 30 days ago you should be able to remove 
the license key from license.properties and after a restart it should 
revert to a trial license. With a trial license you can start the server 
monitor. Obviously you should not try this in production.

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Brian Kotek]

You could also install the Dev version locally at and try running the code
with the server monitor turned on.

On 10/29/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating
> problem.  After
> starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
> less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
> cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
> up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
> loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
> any code changes since upgrading.
> Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>
>
> Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard
> edition
> of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.
>
>
> 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Mark Mandel]

Kevin,

What codebase are you running on it?

Mark

On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
> starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
> less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
> cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
> up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
> loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
> any code changes since upgrading.
> Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.
>
>
> Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard edition
> of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.
>
>
> 

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Re: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[James Holmes]

On a four core system, a CPU pegged at 25% means one core is at 100%;
CF has probably filled the JVM memory and is permanently garbage
collecting.

I agree with Dave - get FusionReactor and set a memory alert threshold
in the crash prevention options.

On 10/30/07, Kevin Pompei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
> starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
> less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
> cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
> up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
> loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
> any code changes since upgrading.
> Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.

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RE: Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Dave Watts]

> Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the 
> standard edition of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.

I suggest you invest in one of the other monitoring tools available -
SeeFusion or FusionReactor. You will likely find the problem a lot faster,
and it'll pay for itself on its first use as a result.

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Server performance problem since upgrading to CF8

[Kevin Pompei]

Every since upgrading to CF8 I've been having a frustrating problem.  After
starting CF, it will run for a while (sometimes serveral hours, sometimes
less than an hour) at about 1% - 3% in terms of processor load.  (It's a 2
cpu - 4 core system.)  Then, all of a sudden, the processor load will jump
up to about 25% and stay there until CF is restarted. Pages then start
loading very sluggishly.  This never happened with CF7 and I haven't made
any code changes since upgrading.
Also, the CF code that this server runs is very light.


Anyone seen this, or have any ideas.  BTW, I'm running the standard edition
of CF so I don't have access to the server monitor.


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Re: Quick Question about "upgrading" to CF 8

[James Blaha]

Hi Tom,

You said: "Or you can make a CAR of your CF7 settings"

How do I do this? Once I have CF8 running, how do I import the settings?

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RE: Quick Question about "upgrading" to CF 8

[Eric Roberts]

It's always better to do a clean install...but CF 8 will also import setting
from CF7 (and I believe 6).

Eric

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 8:37 AM
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Subject: Quick Question about "upgrading" to CF 8

I've looked on Adobe and I just can't find the answer to a really easy
question regarding upgrading to CF8. If I've got CF 7 installed on our
internal development server, and I wanna upgrade it, is it better for
me to uninstall 7 before installing 8? Or should I just get the
upgrade and install it over top of 7? I have no problem just upgrading
8 over 7, thinking that it will just update all relevant parts, but I
just wanted to see what the consensus was, or if there's actually a
somewhat "official" position...

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Re: Quick Question about "upgrading" to CF 8

[Jochem van Dieten]

LHWH Interactive wrote:
> I've looked on Adobe and I just can't find the answer to a really easy
> question regarding upgrading to CF8. If I've got CF 7 installed on our
> internal development server, and I wanna upgrade it, is it better for
> me to uninstall 7 before installing 8?

Install CF 8 next to it so you can use them both. Or install a CF 8 EAR 
in a CF 7 instance and run CF 8 on top of CF 7.

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Re: Quick Question about "upgrading" to CF 8

[Tom Chiverton]

On Wednesday 08 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> internal development server, and I wanna upgrade it, is it better for
> me to uninstall 7 before installing 8? Or should I just get the
> upgrade and install it over top of 7? 

I believe by default CF8 installs into a different directory, and imports all 
your CF7 settings.
Or you can make a CAR of your CF7 settings, uninstall CF7 and install CF8 
fresh.

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Quick Question about "upgrading" to CF 8

[LHWH Interactive]

I've looked on Adobe and I just can't find the answer to a really easy
question regarding upgrading to CF8. If I've got CF 7 installed on our
internal development server, and I wanna upgrade it, is it better for
me to uninstall 7 before installing 8? Or should I just get the
upgrade and install it over top of 7? I have no problem just upgrading
8 over 7, thinking that it will just update all relevant parts, but I
just wanted to see what the consensus was, or if there's actually a
somewhat "official" position...

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Re: Experience upgrading to CF8 (was RE: [CF-Dev] No SSL v3 support forCFHTTP)

[Tom Chiverton]

On Friday 03 Aug 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That URL gives me "page cannot be displayed". Other people getting the
> same ? Would like to have a look at this !

Fine here.

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Re: Upgrading SeeFusion

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Cool, thanks.



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Subject: RE: Upgrading SeeFusion

Just copy the new .jar file in and restart your instance.  That should
pick everything up.

~Brad

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Anyone had the pleasure of upgrading SeeFusion? We are running 4.0.3 and
I
wanted to use the latest 4.0.5 - is it a case of replacing the .jar or
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RE: Upgrading SeeFusion

[Brad Wood]

Just copy the new .jar file in and restart your instance.  That should
pick everything up.

~Brad

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Upgrading SeeFusion

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

Anyone had the pleasure of upgrading SeeFusion? We are running 4.0.3 and I
wanted to use the latest 4.0.5 - is it a case of replacing the .jar or will
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RE: Upgrading to Axis 1.4

[Dave Watts]

> Oh, as an addition, how to find out the version of Axis you are on?

If you have access to the directory where axis.jar is located, you can open
it up as a zip file, then read MANIFEST.MF. I'm running 7.0.2 on my laptop,
and mine says this:

Name: org/apache/axis
Implementation-Title: Apache Axis
Implementation-Version: 1.2.1 2243 June 14 2005
Implementation-Vendor: Apache Web Services

Presumably, there's a command-line way to find out, too, since axis.jar
contains a Version.class file, but since I could just read the manifest I
didn't bother to find out more. If you did want to find out, you could
probably find that on the Axis site (http://xml.apache.org/axis/, I think).

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RE: Upgrading to Axis 1.4

[Adrian Lynch]

Force an axis error, might be in the error message! :OD

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Oh, as an addition, how to find out the version of Axis you are on?



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Subject: Upgrading to Axis 1.4

I am running CF 7.0.2.x anyone know which version of Axis in it? I noticed
this:
http://tjordahl.blogspot.com/2005/09/upgrading-coldfusion-mx-7-to-axis-13.ht
ml but I am not sure if 7.0.2 now contains 1.3 or whether I can/need to
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RE: Upgrading to Axis 1.4

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

Oh, as an addition, how to find out the version of Axis you are on?



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I am running CF 7.0.2.x anyone know which version of Axis in it? I noticed
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http://tjordahl.blogspot.com/2005/09/upgrading-coldfusion-mx-7-to-axis-13.ht
ml but I am not sure if 7.0.2 now contains 1.3 or whether I can/need to
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Cheers





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Upgrading to Axis 1.4

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

I am running CF 7.0.2.x anyone know which version of Axis in it? I noticed
this:
http://tjordahl.blogspot.com/2005/09/upgrading-coldfusion-mx-7-to-axis-13.ht
ml but I am not sure if 7.0.2 now contains 1.3 or whether I can/need to
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Cheers



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RE: Question about Upgrading from CF 5 to CF MX 7

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> Wouldn't this be taken care of if I copy the entire wwwroot 
> content (minus the CFIDE) to the built-in server's wwwroot?

Not necessarily. All the files would be there, but you may have some code
which relies on knowing a complete filesystem path - that would be different
when you move the files.

> The desire is to keep the production content available 
> uninterrupted and have testing and modification done on the 
> built-in server.  When done testing, run the Web Server 
> Configuration Tool, copy the CFIDE from the test environment 
> to the production wwwroot, and copy all changed content to 
> their places in the production wwwroot.  Your thoughts?  Is 
> the built-in server not capable of doing everything I hope to 
> do for getting code tested and upgraded?

There are a lot of things that could go wrong. For example, if you have some
code that causes a significant amount of resources to be consumed by CF 7,
your production content may not be able to be served simply because there
aren't enough CPU cycles, etc, to do both. In addition, it's generally a bad
idea to make your production environment more complicated, which is what
you're doing by putting your development environment on the same machine.
Finally, your applications may rely upon some specific functionality of your
web server. But yes, barring any serious failures or oversights, the
built-in server is certainly capable of letting you test your code.

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Re: Question about Upgrading from CF 5 to CF MX 7

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>If you set CF 7 up this way, it will only serve the content that the
>built-in JRun web server can serve. So, unless you configured the built-in
>JRun web server to use a different directory than its default directory, you
>would have two separate sets of content; CF 7 would serve one set, and CF 5
>would serve the other.
>
>The problem here is that you may have dependencies that break when you move
>the content. These dependencies should be easily identifiable, but that
>largely depends on how you've written your applications. To avoid this
>problem, you could reconfigure the JRun web server to use the same content
>directory. To the extent that this content is read-only, you could use CF 5
>and CF 7 to serve the same content without any difficulties. Here's
>documentation on configuring the JRun web server:

Wouldn't this be taken care of if I copy the entire wwwroot content (minus the 
CFIDE) to the built-in server's wwwroot?  Databases not on external servers 
would be copied and thus could have their DSN's resubmitted.  Users could then 
provide name for copies of databases residing on external servers so that 
testing could be accomplished on any database.  The desire is to keep the 
production content available uninterrupted and have testing and modification 
done on the built-in server.  When done testing, run the Web Server 
Configuration Tool, copy the CFIDE from the test environment to the production 
wwwroot, and copy all changed content to their places in the production 
wwwroot.  Your thoughts?  Is the built-in server not capable of doing 
everything I hope to do for getting code tested and upgraded?

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RE: Question about Upgrading from CF 5 to CF MX 7

[Dave Watts]

> We will be getting MX 7 very soon and we plan on migrating 
> from CF 5.  I found a very good document on Migrating 
> Applciations to ColdFusion MX 7 that was tailored for CF 5.  
> It seems like a very good reference that I hope to follow.  I 
> just hope I have a good grasp on what is going on.
> 
> I will be following the "Migration strategy using built-in 
> web server" so that developers will be able to test and 
> modify their code in a test environment as we do not have a 
> development server.  After I have installed CF MX 7 and set 
> up the built-in web server, I'd then run the Configuration 
> and Settings Migration Wizard to migrate settings to MX.  I 
> would then place a copy of our wwwroot in the built-in web 
> server's wwwroot and define data sources as necessary on 
> replicated databases.
> 
> Now, with this situation, we would have CF 5 and CF MX 7 
> installed.  While I know the CF MX 7 would be serving up the 
> built-in server content, would it also affect the original 
> wwwroot content or would it all still be served up by CF 5?  
> Is there a better way of doing this (keeping production going 
> unaffected while testing and fixing code for CF MX 7)?

If you set CF 7 up this way, it will only serve the content that the
built-in JRun web server can serve. So, unless you configured the built-in
JRun web server to use a different directory than its default directory, you
would have two separate sets of content; CF 7 would serve one set, and CF 5
would serve the other.

The problem here is that you may have dependencies that break when you move
the content. These dependencies should be easily identifiable, but that
largely depends on how you've written your applications. To avoid this
problem, you could reconfigure the JRun web server to use the same content
directory. To the extent that this content is read-only, you could use CF 5
and CF 7 to serve the same content without any difficulties. Here's
documentation on configuring the JRun web server:

http://www.adobe.com/support/coldfusion/adv_development/config_builtin_webse
rver/

You could also configure your web server to serve content through both CF 5
and CF 7, if you're familiar with your web server configuration. This would
let you create separate virtual hosts, served by whichever app server you
want to use. That would be a little more difficult to describe here, though,
so I'll leave that out for now.

That said, I would strongly recommend that you buy a development server. It
should pay for itself very quickly.

> Could the same idea/process be used to upgrade from CF MX 
> 6/6.1 to MX 7?

Yes. In addition, if you're using CF Enterprise, you can install a full copy
of JRun, and install instances of CF 6 and 7 on that JRun server. The
ability to run multiple instances is valuable in many other respects, so you
might want to consider it anyway.

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Question about Upgrading from CF 5 to CF MX 7

[Kevin Schlagel]

We will be getting MX 7 very soon and we plan on migrating from CF 5.  I found 
a very good document on Migrating Applciations to ColdFusion MX 7 that was 
tailored for CF 5.  It seems like a very good reference that I hope to follow.  
I just hope I have a good grasp on what is going on.

I will be following the "Migration strategy using built-in web server" so that 
developers will be able to test and modify their code in a test environment as 
we do not have a development server.  After I have installed CF MX 7 and set up 
the built-in web server, I'd then run the Configuration and Settings Migration 
Wizard to migrate settings to MX.  I would then place a copy of our wwwroot in 
the built-in web server's wwwroot and define data sources as necessary on 
replicated databases.

Now, with this situation, we would have CF 5 and CF MX 7 installed.  While I 
know the CF MX 7 would be serving up the built-in server content, would it also 
affect the original wwwroot content or would it all still be served up by CF 5? 
 Is there a better way of doing this (keeping production going unaffected while 
testing and fixing code for CF MX 7)?

Could the same idea/process be used to upgrade from CF MX 6/6.1 to MX 7?

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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[James Watkins]

I run LDAP, Webservices, and XML. Java Version 1.4.2_05 with MX version
7,0,1,116466 on Windows 2003  and have some Java crashes.  I would like
to know if I upgrade to _09 will it cause issues?



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Just to be sure (and safe - we live and die on XML here) - as long as I
stick with upgrading to 1.4.2_09 the only known gray area is LDAP,
right?  XML is OK?  I'll try to get a statement out of the Adobe/MM
support person about official support for LDAP with 1.4.2_09, since it
sounds like others have seen problems with the _06 through _08 versions.



>Aaaand I'm late to another thread. Sorry, didn't see your question
earlier.
>
>Scott,
>
>Java 5 is incompatible with the Apache Axis stuff that's built into CF.
>Basically, you can kiss your web services goodbye if you upgrade past
1.4.
>That fact is pretty well confirmed. I heard (but have no proof) that 
>people were having trouble with XML and LDAP as well. I did it to my 
>test server a while ago, and it was fine. Everything was running great,

>but I wasn't doing anything with XML, web services, LDAP or anything
special, really.
>
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>
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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Leon Oosterwijk]

Scott, 

I'm not nathan, but we did upgrade to 1.5 and have been running that in
production for a while now. It's very stable and after the latest jrun
updates there aren't any issues that we have experienced. We do use xml
functionality, but not really any web services so I can't tell you about
that. 

Leon
 

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Nathan, 

When you upgraded to 1.5, what errors did you see?



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I've upgraded my JVM a number of times, had no problems, ever. As long
as you stay in the 1.4.2 space, the _#s are just bugfixes mostly, and
you can safely upgrade on CFMX 6 or 7 (just watch out for 1.5 if you
like web services and XML). I won't say that upgrading my JVM solved
every one of my problems with servers crashing, but it did help. Really,
the way to go is to see about re-architecting your applications,
upgrading your servers (Java can use almost 2GB of RAM on a 32bit
server), or considering network load balancing.

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> We've been having a rash of JVM crashes (1 per day usually) for the 
> past 7-10 days.  That's better than what it was before then (4-5 per 
> day).  We opened a ticket with Adobe/MM and made some jvm.config 
> changes they suggested for heap memory handling (and also moved the 
> client var database from Access to SQL Server), and that changed the 
> frequency and nature of
the
> crashes.  The JVM crashes we're seeing now have the JVM apparently 
> running out of memory (NT memory, not heap memory) and stopping in
it's tracks.
The
> latest suggestion from Adobe/MM is to upgrade to version 1.4.2_09 of 
> the JVM, since this could in fact be a JVM bug.
>
> Anyone out there done this and know of any gotchas before I do this?
>
> TIA,
> Reed
>
> 





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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[powell]

Just to be sure (and safe - we live and die on XML here) - as long as I stick 
with upgrading to 1.4.2_09 the only known gray area is LDAP, right?  XML is OK? 
 I'll try to get a statement out of the Adobe/MM support person about official 
support for LDAP with 1.4.2_09, since it sounds like others have seen problems 
with the _06 through _08 versions.



>Aaaand I'm late to another thread. Sorry, didn't see your question earlier.
>
>Scott,
>
>Java 5 is incompatible with the Apache Axis stuff that's built into CF.
>Basically, you can kiss your web services goodbye if you upgrade past 1.4.
>That fact is pretty well confirmed. I heard (but have no proof) that people
>were having trouble with XML and LDAP as well. I did it to my test server a
>while ago, and it was fine. Everything was running great, but I wasn't doing
>anything with XML, web services, LDAP or anything special, really.
>
>-nathan strutz
>http://www.dopefly.com/
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>
>
>On 4/5/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Nathan Strutz]

Aaaand I'm late to another thread. Sorry, didn't see your question earlier.

Scott,

Java 5 is incompatible with the Apache Axis stuff that's built into CF.
Basically, you can kiss your web services goodbye if you upgrade past 1.4.
That fact is pretty well confirmed. I heard (but have no proof) that people
were having trouble with XML and LDAP as well. I did it to my test server a
while ago, and it was fine. Everything was running great, but I wasn't doing
anything with XML, web services, LDAP or anything special, really.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/



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> Nathan,
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> I've upgraded my JVM a number of times, had no problems, ever. As long as
> you stay in the 1.4.2 space, the _#s are just bugfixes mostly, and you can
> safely upgrade on CFMX 6 or 7 (just watch out for 1.5 if you like web
> services and XML). I won't say that upgrading my JVM solved every one of
> my
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> On 4/5/06, powell @ nauticom. net powell @ nauticom. net <
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> > We've been having a rash of JVM crashes (1 per day usually) for the past
> > 7-10 days.  That's better than what it was before then (4-5 per
> day).  We
> > opened a ticket with Adobe/MM and made some jvm.config changes they
> > suggested for heap memory handling (and also moved the client var
> database
> > from Access to SQL Server), and that changed the frequency and nature of
> the
> > crashes.  The JVM crashes we're seeing now have the JVM apparently
> running
> > out of memory (NT memory, not heap memory) and stopping in it's tracks.
> The
> > latest suggestion from Adobe/MM is to upgrade to version 1.4.2_09 of the
> > JVM, since this could in fact be a JVM bug.
> >
> > Anyone out there done this and know of any gotchas before I do this?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Reed
> >
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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Dave Carabetta]

On 4/5/06, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes, AFAIK, JVM releases > _05  breaks CFLDAP.
>

Well, this is the one question that I have, seeing as Adobe has upped
the supported JVM. I highly doubt that they would support _09 if they
knew CFLDAP flat-out broke, no? Does this mean CFLDAP works in _09 due
to some underlying JVM bug fix made?

Regards,
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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Ian Skinner]

Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well? 
Perhaps it is even better?


Viable - maybe.  Official - NO!  So use at your own risk.


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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Douglas Knudsen]

yes, AFAIK, JVM releases > _05  breaks CFLDAP.

DK

On 4/5/06, Dave Carabetta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
> > Perhaps it is even better?
> >
>
> We're testing it in our staging environment, and it works just fine
> (we're using web services, cfhttp, etc., so it's getting a good
> workout). However, a potentially big caveat is that we do not use
> CFLDAP, which is known to have issues with later versions of the 1.4.2
> JVM (I think _05 was the last revision that is known to have worked,
> and I haven't tried on _09), and I don't believe Adobe will support
> you if you call them for support (they'll make you downgrade first I
> believe).
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
> 

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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Che Vilnonis]

Got it. Now I know. :)

-Original Message-
From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09


You can certainly use it, but Adobe only support up to _09

Andy

On 05/04/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
> Perhaps it is even better?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09
>
>
> On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Andy or anyone, do you have the direct link on Sun's site for the
1.4.2_9
> > SDK?
> > Thanks, Che.
>
> http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.2_09/
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
>
>
>



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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Dave Carabetta]

On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
> Perhaps it is even better?
>

We're testing it in our staging environment, and it works just fine
(we're using web services, cfhttp, etc., so it's getting a good
workout). However, a potentially big caveat is that we do not use
CFLDAP, which is known to have issues with later versions of the 1.4.2
JVM (I think _05 was the last revision that is known to have worked,
and I haven't tried on _09), and I don't believe Adobe will support
you if you call them for support (they'll make you downgrade first I
believe).

Regards,
Dave.

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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Andy Allan]

You can certainly use it, but Adobe only support up to _09

Andy

On 05/04/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
> Perhaps it is even better?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09
>
>
> On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Andy or anyone, do you have the direct link on Sun's site for the 1.4.2_9
> > SDK?
> > Thanks, Che.
>
> http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.2_09/
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

[Che Vilnonis]

Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
Perhaps it is even better?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09


On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andy or anyone, do you have the direct link on Sun's site for the 1.4.2_9
> SDK?
> Thanks, Che.

http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.2_09/

Regards,
Dave.



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