Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:01 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: I want to handle one with the form factor of two facing pages in a book like shape. I've only seen a kindle up close once and had a quick look at the NookEBook at a Barnes and Noble. The nook looked too small. The reason most books are of a certain size is convenience. Back around 1501 Aldus Manutius wanted to standardize on a book format that gentlemen of leisure could easily transport in a pocket or a satchel... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldus_Manutius That's was an octavio format, which is about 9 x 6 inches. iPad is about 9-1/2 x 7-1/2. Wisdom of the ages? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Don't be silly. All the items you cite are paired with something other than a single letter. So you object to the single letter? Now who is being silly? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: On the last part we will have to disagree. As I type this on my netbook, with a video out, 3 USB ports, and a SD card reader built in. (6 hours battery with wifi.) Netbooks will be seen the 8-track tape players of the early 21st century. The iPad comes with bluetooth and WiFi plus optional 3G and you complain that you can't have a bunch of wires dangling from it. This is silly. It does not have a floppy drive either. Boohoo. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:48 AM, mike wrote: The fact this doesn't have any ports is just further proof this is really just a giant ipod touch. Which is absolutely wonderful. The iPhone/iTouch have revolutionized how people use computers. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
Prediction: Business suits will start to have cargo pants pockets. Thomas Pink already sells ties with a Nano pouch. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Consider Total Cost [Was: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?]
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Stewart Marshall wrote: So at present I pay over $400 per month staying connected and you want me to add a 3G plan on top of that? If you lived in a higher rent district you would be getting connectivity of better quality and lower cost. But many of your other costs would be higher. I bet your total cost is way lower than what many of us pay in rent, property taxes, etc.. You have nothing to gripe about. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Quality vs the Easy Button [Was: Dreamweaver version correction]
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:27 AM, Tony B wrote: Only in the sense that anyone working for a newspaper needs to buy their own printing press to put out a quality product. I disagree. A few should, but the vast majority of writers shouldn't have to know anything at all about a printing press or CSS. Why would one want to do a good job? That's typical IT mentality. Smart management has a label for what IT does. They call it turning analog dollars into digital dimes. It is actually even worse. For example Newsday just spent $4,000,000 on a such a sausage machine. Net income for their first 3 month of operation: $9,000. That's what IT mentality leads to. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:45 AM, mike wrote: I heard a tech reporter say 'who needs 3g, wifi is almost everywhere'. Where do these people live? Near a McDonalds. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Bill Gates saves the world...well some of it
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:33 AM, mike wrote: Has anyone ever even come close to doing this much good with their money? It is my and your money money. We were cheated out of it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Consider Total Cost [Was: You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?]
On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It just gets frustrating being told well because you live there, you deserve what happens to you. Do you have a restricted travel permit that won't let you visit the big city? Bit it ain't all roses here either... Golden Triangle Crime Alert The Metropolitan Police Department has asked us to pass along the following information. As of late there has been an increase in street robberies around the DC Metro area. The Second District is not immune from these incidents. There is not a specific suspect lookout but there is a very specific target – the iPhone. To help combat this problem, MPD is asking the users of all phones and PDAs to use good street sense when carrying and using your mobile device. Always be aware of your surroundings. It is a good idea to use your phone while stationary in a spot that will enable you to talk and observe your surroundings at the same time. Keep your mobile device close to your body and make sure it is out of sight when not in use. Please pass this along to reach as many people as possible. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 11:07 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: OK, why don't you tell us what's so intriguing about a midsize touchscreen that has no HD, no widescreen, no camera, no USB, no memory card slots, and no GPS, that can only get music and video from iTunes, that can only run what the suits at Apple say it can run, and that--for God's sake, this is 2010--can't multitask. I will quote Andy Ihnatko of the Chicago Sun Times... Is it better to have a device that is loaded with bullet-pointable features? Or is it better to have a device that has a shorter list of specs ... but which does everything right? That’s not a loaded question. It’s the key difference between the Android and iPhone operating systems. It’ll also define the difference between a netbook and an iPad. The former looks great on paper. The Apple product looks great when you’re actually trying one out firsthand. Most of my admiration for the iPad comes from the fact that I left that demo room with absolutely no complaints about the speed, comfort, or simplicity of my user experience. http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/2017907,ihnatko-ipad-hands-on-012810.article * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 3:37 PM, katan wrote: I'm gonna go with not so much. Especially in light of the Mad TV skit already pointing out the obvious. Surely *someone* at Apple had seen that already. It is a brilliant name. The radio program I'm listening to has spent the last hour talking about little more than the name and taking callers' comments and suggestions. I bet that coast to coast Apple is getting $Ms of free advertising out of this. You bet I'm impressed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 4:44 PM, mike wrote: Tom has his Apple goggles turned up extra special bright of late. WFBs are certainly riled up as Apple hits another home run. You can take your Zune home and sulk. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple's homepage for ipad...how long till they fix it? Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 6:46 PM, mike wrote: As reported on Engadget and other blogs, Apple is currently running a promo on their website for the ipad showing it running flash from Adobe..which it can't do. So the ipad that can do it all, but not flash, has to lie about doing flash? How long till Apple pulls it? How do you know that it is Flash and not HTML5? Both Safari 4 and FireFox 3.6 now support enough of HTML5 to handle this. If you use these up-to-date browsers you can even set your YouTube preferences to use HTML5 instead of Flash. There is now some debate about who ships buggier software with some proposing that Adobe has now pulled ahead of M$. Many report that using the FlashBlock add-on has greatly improved their browser performance and eliminated too-frequent crashes. Apple's message to Adobe is to clean up their act if they want access. WFBs may find frequent crashing just adds to the excitement, but not everyone does. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: They have just come up to bat we will have to wait a few months to see how they swing and what type of ball has been hit. Back down a little and lets see how the filed goes. The ball has vanished over the left-field wall and we have you hoping the runner trips. Don't bet on it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 29, 2010, at 6:37 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: ... I can't mount the device on my desktop or view the drive anywhere except in limited view in limited apps. Real networking has to work before it's ready for release. ... What if you need two USB ports? Carry a hub? Bummer. What if you need USB and want to use AV out? ... How many people are going to buy a new expensive camera because their new iPad has no easy way to get the video from camera to device? ... SD will be around for a while... Let's see how they deal with these concerns. You forgot to mention the lack of parallel port and built-in floppy disk drive. Apple is showing you the future while you cling to the past. Everything you mention is a technology on its way out. You want the iPad studded with ports that you should no longer need. That is not how Apple leads. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed
On Jan 27, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Re-reading this, does the filename include the quotes? No quotes. The file name is Icon\015 or Icon\r or Icon^M without the quotes depending on how you like to handle escapes. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed
On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Michael Fernando wrote: 1) move everything else out of that directory. cd .. \rm -rf that directory name The dir was already empty, except this one file. On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Michael Fernando wrote: 2) I'm not sure if OSX comes with emacs, but I've used emacs' directory mode to delete files with funny characters in the filenames. That looked so promising, emacs listed the file and its doppelganger ._Icon\015, let me marl them with d and when I hit x no joy. 2 of 2 deletions failed file-error removing old name no such file or directory... I tried deleting the dir, but it won't 'cause the dir ain't empty. On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Michael Fernando wrote: 3) (yeah, three is more than a couple ...) Perhaps, a different shell may have better filename completion? Does OSX have tcsh? start tcsh; then \rm -f Icotab and see if it completes the filename with the proper escape character? Tried tsch. Same result. On Jan 27, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Michael Fernando wrote: Uh ... why can't you use the Finder window to navigate to the file and drag it to Trash? It won't let me delete the dir because a file is in use. If I try to delete the file there is a long pause followed by file is in use. Dragging into trash looks to work, but close and open the dir and there it is again. Sometimes when I click in the file icon it vanishes. have to close reopen the dir to see it. Icon view says the dir has zero items. List view shows 1 (and sometimes none). If I try to rename the file I get error -41 -- File system: Memory full (open) or file won't fit (load) That's why I'm working at the command line. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed
Problem solved. I mounted the drive on XP. Windows was perfectly fine with blowing away the whole directory without regard to contents. So Windows is actually good for something. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/27/the-apple-ipad-first-impressions/ Pogue advises... My main message to fanboys is this: it’s too early to draw any conclusions. Apple hasn’t given the thing to any reviewers yet, there are no iPad-only apps yet (there will be), the e-bookstore hasn’t gone online yet, and so on. So hyperventilating is not yet the appropriate reaction. At the same time, the bashers should be careful, too. As we enter Phase 2, remember how silly you all looked when you all predicted the iPhone’s demise in that period before it went on sale. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed
On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: I know this isn't Windows, but can you _move_ the file via drag/drop to a miscellaneous unused flash drive, and then reformat the flash drive to really kill it? Alas, it was not on a flash drive. It was on a server. This was a great example of why the world is a better place when there are many OSs to choose from. Thanks to all for their help. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed
On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Paul Cannon wrote: Another option would be to open a terminal. cd to the direcory where the file resides. use the rm command and type the first few letters of the filename and press the tab key to let the shell complete the filename. That was the first thing I did. It would autocomplete the file name and then report no such file. Grr! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed
On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:47 AM, David K Watson wrote: To avoid this, in terminal, type rm -i I did that too. This was a severe case of one hand not knowing what the other was doing. rm -i would prompt me for the file, but after I typed yes if would respond no such file. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:26 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: No USB is stupid. I have a cable with the iPod dock plug on one end and a USB plug on the other. Why do you think that won't be possible? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:29 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: And what a blunder of a dumb name. iPod was called dumb too. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dreamweaver 8 versus MX
On Jan 28, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Constance Warner wrote: So here's my naive question (I haven't looked at Dreamweaver for awhile): would a manual for Dreamweaver 8 be any use at all with the current MX version? Close enough with the online help filling in the gaps. Whether the differences matter really depends on how you use the product. Should note that MX is 3 versions back, so unsupported. So some of the exciting new features you got are now never mind and no longer supported. E.g. Behaviors. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 28, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: You missed the point. Jobs criticized netbooks for their small screens, then released a box with a screen that's as small as most netbooks and smaller than many. I was noting the irony, not complaining about the screen size. You were played. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: It strikes me a bit disingenuous to try and sell it to folks saying we will make it better later, and then you can buy it again. I guess you would be happy if they never shipped, constantly waiting to add one more feature. What they showed is a well-rounded product and well ahead of any other product of this type. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] You Saw the Demo? Are you impressed?
On Jan 28, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Not to be too delicate about it, but for any adolescent or adult woman, something named iPad inspires, at best, discreet laughter. (Not to mention a mental picture you'd rather not contemplate.) Sorry about that, guys. That's taking a long reach to find offense. Do you refuse to use Window's Notepad? Or protest Office Depot's sale of the same name item? Never bought a mouse pad? Do you recoil in horror at keypads? Or refuse to touch a trackpad? Won't draw on a graphics pad? Do you avert you eyes from NASA's launch pads? Won't fly from a helipad? Eschew elbow and knee pads? Reject jackets with shoulder pads? Won't play a drum pad? Never watch Poker After Dark? I don't believe it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] UNIX help needed
I'm stumped. The dear folks from Adobe have produced a file on my Mac (OS X.5) named Icon\r which I can't delete or rename. rm -i * does prompt me with the file name, buy when I reply y it says no such file or directory. Any suggestions for deletion? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] What the Press Knows About Tech
http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2010/01/26/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] UNIX help needed
On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:03 AM, John Emmerling wrote: rm -i Icon\\r rm -i 'Icon\\r' rm -i Icon\r rm -i 'Icon\r' Alas no. Even the dread rm * fails to conquer. The backslash is an escape character. The idiots actually have a control character in the filename. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Is for Amazon, B Is for Best Buy …
On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:42 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Well G does do both. Try searching Lawn Mower and you will get three Sears listings in orange. The top links are often paid links as well as all the ones on the right. Google at least indicates paid links on the top of the list with an orange box. But that's not what we are looking at. We are looking at the suggested searches that appear when you type in G's home page search field. Those are supposed to be based on popularity. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 25, 2010, at 2:37 AM, mike wrote: *Neither is better on an absolute basis. The choice depends on your application. Once you know your application the debate goes away. The debate only exists when people presume erroneously that someone else's needs mirror their own.* That was written 4 years ago. He also wrote Film is not going away. We know better now. Today Kodak is not making Kodachrome any more. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] This is dedicated to all those spending big bucks on components
Blu-ray Maker Re-Boxes $500 Player, Charges $3,500 http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/blu-ray-maker-re-boxes-500-player-charges-3500/ Lexicon simply bought a batch of Oppos and put them in new cases. Lest you think we are being picky here, or that Lexicon somehow took the guts of the Oppo and redesigned the surrounding circuitry, let us clarify. If you open up the $3,500 Lexicon, you will find an entire Oppo Blu-ray player inside, intact, with its original chassis. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Google: Damned if you do; damned if you don't
On Jan 24, 2010, at 12:09 PM, mike wrote: Or maybe it shouldn't be judgmental and just output the input. Did you read Google's explanation, which I think is a good one? They don't have enough confidence in the software. They want to avoid the situation where somebody said something perfectly sweet and it got translated to potty mouth. Just imagine what a field day the press would have with that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 24, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Robert Carroll wrote: My daughter three years ago took photography in high school. There they still use BW film in cameras and learn to develop and print in a darkroom. I loaned her my Pentax Super ME to take the class. I was quite upset to find that the photography class my son was taking wasted many hours teaching them how to develop film and make prints in the darkroom. Completely useless skills. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 24, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Jeff Miles wrote: This isn't quite correct. I've been a professional photographer for almost 30 years. I retired from it professionally full time a few years back. Anyway, unless you lock up the mirror on your SLR you've got lag time. Many cheaper SLRs didn't have this capability. But the photographer did something strange, they got to know their camera. And as someone mentioned earlier, they learn to anticipate. One can learn to anticipate a lag of a few 1/10s of a second. A lag of 2 or 3 seconds is a completely different matter requiring the photographer to become a fortune teller. I borrowed a Nikon for a vacation that had such a lag and found it completely impossible for candid photos. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] SOS -- Outlook Express Destroying Emails as soon as they're opened
On Jan 24, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Gail Miller wrote: Suddenly -- this morning -- My Outlook Express destroys each email that it optns. It will show up in the search function (in a box) but it cannot open the file from there. We recently did a test and once opened it disappeared. It shows in the result box of the search function as in the 'INBOX but it is clearly not there. You need to tell us lots more. Are you accessing via POP or IMAP? If POP is it set to delete on transfer? Have you tried using a more reliable client (anything not from M$)? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why Firefox Will Flame Out - PC World
On Jan 20, 2010, at 2:32 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Huh? Is this a peecee thing? What's the replacement? Chrome is not ready for prime time, and IE sucks. The author is just bitching and moaning about the slowing of their upgrade cycle. This happens to every app eventually and it signals that it is time for a major rewrite and simplification. They have done it before and I expect they will do it again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Excel Pivot Tables
On Jan 20, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Jay Montero wrote: Does anyone know how to get an Excel (2007) pivot table to accept a range as a criteria in a column heading? It will allow using a constant but I need it to allow a range of values as in 20 and 50. With my Excel 2004 (Mac) you right click on any row or column label and select Group. In the resulting dialog box you can specify intervals. YMMV * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] iPhone/MS deal about to close?
On Jan 20, 2010, at 2:46 AM, mike wrote: BW is saying bing may become the default search engine on the iphonecan you hear Tom scream yet? Sigh, not scream. M$ continues to be unable to compete on product quality so has to throw its money around to buy customers. An effective strategy for Windows-using sheeple, but will independent- thinking Mac users go along or will they go out of their way to avoid Bing? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Obsolete consumer products...
On Jan 18, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: I'm not taking pictures of fast moving objects. I'm just trying to take a picture of unposed people at a wedding or some other party or gathering. By the time the shutter fires, good expressions have gone to bad ones, and heads have turned so that the face is no longer at a good angle or even visible. Yes indeed. I once took a Nikon Coolpix POS on vacation. The shutter lag was so bad that not only did people's expressions change, but they had walked completely out of the room. I had frame after frame of nothing. No such problem with my much older Olympus. Never buy a camera without checking shutter lag. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] digital camera shutter lag
On Jan 19, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Robert Carroll wrote: Small point-and-shoot cameras, those the size of a deck of cards, do not have the ability to focus manually nor do they have aperture- priority mode. New camera type that some are calling EVIL (Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lens) that uses the micro 4/3s format may be the right choice. Like the Lumix GF1. http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/five-reasons-you-should-ditch-your-dslr/ * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dump adobe reader
On Jan 17, 2010, at 4:50 PM, D Freye wrote: I want to dump adobe reader and replace it with a program that NEVER calls home or even asks unless I suggest it. Any ideas? Would it not be better to keep Reader and block its bad habits. These days so many programs phone home that it is a big job to go after them one by one. Why not keep them all under control with a firewall? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Better than a UPS
On Jan 16, 2010, at 2:14 PM, Art Clemons wrote: Actually the Gizmodo article references an article on Physorg. The battery is supposed to supply an average Japanese house. So I extrapolate that it will run an average US house for about 6 hours. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Why Not Be Evil?
On Jan 15, 2010, at 4:20 PM, mike wrote: Well..Android isn't only controlled by google, it's controlled by the open handset alliance. Did they get paid $500M too? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Will Adobe Eclipse Microsoft?
http://rcpmag.com/articles/2010/01/13/adobe-eclipsing-microsoft-as-patch-concern.aspx After a solid year of security issues, Adobe's product security and secure product development practices are being seriously questioned, said Andrew Storms, director of security at nCircle. It's ironic to consider that we may have reached the point where Microsoft Office documents are now more secure than [Adobe] PDF documents. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Cars and the CES...
On Jan 14, 2010, at 12:55 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Audi has decided to present a legal disclaimer on their dashboard computer screen every time a user activates it. The disclaimer says something to the effect that it is expected that the user will determine the safety of operating the computer while the vehicle is in motion. Audi is obviously anticipating crashes as the result of drivers using the in-dash computers, and is looking to alleviate their legal liabilities. What if the crash occurs while the driver is reading the fine-print legal notice? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [Slashdot] MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP
On Jan 9, 2010, at 6:31 PM, rleesimon wrote: In that case, what you want is the Skype To Go feature. Either with a subscription plan (which you have at 5.95/mo) or Skype credit, you can get a local phone number for free. The number they provide is a US number so I can access Skype from a US phone without being at a computer. That's good. For I moment I was getting excited that I could get a number in a foreign country so people could call us cheaply. That is available in a handful of countries, but not Italy. Digging around some more I also discovered that the flat rate plan only applies to calls to landline phones, can't call cell phones. That's an unhappy restriction because so many Europeans have given up on landline phones. They take all their call on cell. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [Slashdot] MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP
On Jan 9, 2010, at 6:31 PM, rleesimon wrote: How about doing that with google voice? From what I have read Google Voice offers a whole lot more and a whole lot less. So for now I'm going to pass on it. Officially, Google Voice is still available by invitation only, and I can tell why. It doesn't work consistently. I managed to get five invitations -- one for each member of my family. But they complain consistently about various problems they have encountered with Google Voice and have begged to stop using it. The last time I looked there were 1.5 million registered Google Voice accounts, but only 580,000 active users. The majority of registered users aren't using it. Sunday, January 10, 2010 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10010/1026878-467.stm#ixzz0cEyD1cOH * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Fwd: [Slashdot] MagicJack Femtocell Gates Cell Traffic to VoIP
On Jan 9, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: olsmeister writes MagicJack is demonstrating a [0]femtocell device at CES that will [1]allow any GSM phone (locked or unlocked) to place free phone calls over the internet using VOIP. The device costs $40 and includes free service for 1 year. It supposedly will cover a 3,000 sq ft house. That is progress, but still requires a separate computer. I would buy several of these right quick if they contained an embedded controller to handle the last part of the connection. I want the thing to have an Ethernet jack, not a USB. Right now we are testing Skype's $5.95/mo one country deal. After only a few days my wife announced that we had already gotten our money's worth. We still have to place the call from our Mac, but it rings to a regular phone in Italy. Quality is variable, sometimes good and sometimes she sounds like Minnie Mouse. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Computer Guys ( gal) Show
On Jan 9, 2010, at 6:07 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: You have to get over the idea of provider and get with the idea of it doesn't profit me to serve you at the same level I would someone who would actually pay my costs. The machine is not working in your direction, girlfriend. Are you not making a strong case for nationalizing the telecoms? I can see all the rural dittoheads voting for Hugo. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:17 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Whether it was your intention or not, it appeared as though you were admonishing the gentleman for not having the latest version of Photoshop. One of the three sentences you wrote referencing his problem was pointing him in the direction of Photoshop version 11 by asking him why he is using such old versions. That was no help to his situation. Does Photoshop 11 even come in a PPC flavor? Some of you folks are hypersensitive. Any time somebody is doing something unusual the reason is important. Without knowing why it is quite likely that any proffered solution would be unsuitable. Probably moot now. It looks like you folks have scared him off. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Jan 9, 2010, at 12:32 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: My point all along has been EVERY company should take that responsibility. M$ is a bigger target and they can be made to look like bigger idiots. It shouldn't be too much of problem for them to fund the work. Back when M$ was creating this mess I was yelling about it almost every month and contrasting it with what others were doing. M$ built a system where everything could link to everything else and they did it at a time when it was already obvious that computer viruses were going to be a problem. I think this was done because M$ thought it would make them more money, but it put all their customers in peril. The unhappiness continues. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:38 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Again, I am not disparaging any Apple portable device, or any other brand for that matter. I am simply saying that issues of product quality, product specifications and additional technical parameters are not much of a factor when a customer enters that Best Buy store. Mac sales figures dispute your theory. While just about everybody else in the industry had negative growth, Mac sales are up 16% year over year. When I'm working on site it is not uncommon for a secretary or AA to ask if they can get some advice. They don't ask dumb questions. To the contrary I'm impressed by how well they think things through. They ask tough questions about system integration that are often wiser than the analysis I see from supposed IT pros. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
On Jan 7, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Victor Subervi wrote: The problem isn't on our end. The problem is that either the vendors don't use USPS or refuse to ship to the VI based on a set of rules someone on top arbitrarily set, usually based on rules copied from other companies! I think they avoid USPS because it is unreliable and doesn't take inquiries about lost mail seriously. Last year they lost a registered letter I sent. Their inquiry number had very long hold times and clueless employees. Their standard reply was we don't know, we'll call you back. But they never would call back. I eventually gave up on them and had to pay late fees. USPS could care less. Some years ago I lost an UPS package. They too said we'll call you back and they did. Sorry, your package was run over by a truck. We'll send you a check for its value. And they promptly did. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Jan 7, 2010, at 9:41 AM, John DeCarlo wrote: I just got an email with an ad for a free rootkit buster (I think from Trend Micro, based on the ad). Trend Micro bought HijackThis about a year ago. This may be the fruit of that transaction. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Rootkits and earlier request for help from Gail
On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:05 AM, Tony B wrote: This isn't the free rootkit scanner we've been using for years? I admit, it's been over a year since I ran it last. And now I see at this link it won't work on any newer systems. Isn't this the thing about M$ strong-arming the anti-virus vendors out of the business so they can take it over? First they build a defective OS that needs lots of anti-virus help, then they sell the anti-virus help separately. They used to call this the fox guarding the hen house. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:59 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Those same folks are not the ones that we were discussing. We were talking about folks who buy portable, mostly entertainment devices, and those folks are usually young, not all that sophisticated about how electronic devices work, and want whatever is currently trendy. A very false stereotype that I reject. It is the old geezers like you that still have 12:00 AM flashing on their VCRs. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality
On Jan 7, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Tony B wrote: Since this thread is now about reality, I gotta ask: If this is true, how many years will it take to reach 100% of the market? How many to rise above 5%? Apple has been above 5 for quite some time. I think they are at about 9 now. With Android moving into computers I think we will see more diversity in the future. Nobody will have 100%, but some will start wondering about how long it will be for M$ to hit zero. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: Secondly who still has VCR's hooked up to their system anyway? I see you are getting closer to my point. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Cell Phone Radiation Good for Your Brain
On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Stewart Marshall wrote: Where as I do not try and use it that much, keep my conversations short etc. and I remember stuff going way back. (Like an elephant) Or you think you are remembering stuff, but are actually just hallucinating. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Photoshop problems...
On Jan 7, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Bill L'Hommedieu wrote: I'm running OS 10.4.11 . When I open photoshop files 8 crashes on opening. Dropped back to 7 and the same thing happens. 6 opened the file but another problem showed up: I now can't access my scanner (Epson Perfection 1660) to import new pics. I've cleaned out the 7 and 8 versions and reinstalled but nothing changed. Not enough information. What hardware are you using. Especially what processor? Current version of PS is 11. Why are you using such old versions? Can you open it to a blank window and create a file? Can you save and reopen that file? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Buying an iMac Pro
On Jan 7, 2010, at 6:15 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Glad to hear that you have found a way to solve the problem. And now you have discovered a solution to an important need and have a new business opportunity. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:31 AM, Constance Warner wrote: In this case, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that fancy cellphones have replaced computers as all-purpose communications devices. Cellphones are too small to display most of what's on the Web. For a lot of people, cellphones are too small, period; they can't be read without eyestrain. They're VERY expensive--you pay a lot for the phones per se, the monthly payments, and the two-year contracts that are usually required. They can't be used with all carriers or in some parts of the country (see the cellphone maps if you doubt this). Our reality is often shaped by advertising and we don't realize that what most people do is not advertised (because it does not have to be). Most people use paygo, not the advertised contracts. Most people have simple cellphones. Many iPhones are obtained on a family plan that works out to have a very competitive. It takes some work to figure out, but a little digging almost always produces a better solution. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:40 AM, mike wrote: You eat out? Give your credit card or visa debit to the waitress making 2+tips an hour? Drive through at jack or mcds and give the card to the kid making 8 bucks an hour? Not to mention all the people who get their CC numbers etc stolen by hackers at the bank level. I'm not sure I'd say Mint is the point of weakness. Yes and no. Yes, the waiter can do bad things with your credit card. Yet if you have ever left your credit card behind you will discover that they usually go to great lengths to protect your card and get it back to you promptly. If these were dishonest people they would be in a different line of work, perhaps stock brokers or TV evangelists. The credit card companies are very good at spotting fraud. I had one stolen and they spotted it within an hour. Yet when I shop in the same places they somehow know that the transaction is legitimate. You also get to review your credit card bill before it is paid and you can weed out any bogus charges. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:06 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: A close friend got emails from three of her friends wherein they related Christmas gifts they had gotten this year. Two boasted of an iPod Touch, and one of an iPod. Nothing else mentioned. Just those items, as if you got one of those you had reached the pinnacle of gift reception. And these were full blown adults. Stupid. What? You think that somebody who got a Zune is going to brag about it? You are so out of touch. It is rare when the very best can be bought for such a reasonable price. No surprise at all that it is a gift that makes someone happy. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
On Jan 6, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Chris Dunford wrote: There was a significant problem not long ago, especially in major cities, with wait staff who had handheld card readers. They'd quietly swipe cards and sell the information. I don't know if this is Is this not an urban legend? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Reality [Was: Computer Guys ( gal) Show]
On Jan 6, 2010, at 4:58 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Not out of touch, as you say. I understand that those folks who received the iPody devices are primarily thrilled because they now have what everybody else has. This is the lemming mentality. These gift recipients finally belong, no longer outcasts. Not at all. You are looking at the world through the eyes of a Windows user. You get what everybody else has got, not because it is good, but because it is what everybody else has got. The logic for iPods and iPhones is very different. People do not buy those because they are the cheapest choice. People get them because they are the very best and happen to be very reasonably priced. While this produces a situation where almost everybody has one, the motivation is very different. Having an iPod or an iPhone brings true joy. Most people who get Windows justify it by telling you why they had to get it (instead of the Mac that they really wanted). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] PC Magazine
On Jan 4, 2010, at 11:39 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: Curious that no mention here of the passing of PC Magazine, crossed over after the January issue into digital only. As Mac-centric, I nonetheless value the opinions and information from a great publication, now left hardcopy after 20 years. Probably because nobody reads the paper edition any more. See the future here.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntyXvLnxyXk * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
On Jan 5, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Tony B wrote: It's this kind of sloppy writing that makes the rest of us have to learn useless new words. Tech folks need more words that non-tech folks because they need to make precise distinctions. E.g. Eskimos have dozens of words for what we just call snow. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Windows God Mode
On Jan 4, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Tony B wrote: It works, but oddly, it seems particularly useless. Windows 7? Yes indeed. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] new bank and a mint
On Jan 5, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Roy A. Ackerman, Ph.D., E.A. wrote: Now that MINT is part of Intuit, I would presume more banks will be supporting the program... And fewer of us may be interested in signing up with mint.com. I was about to check them out and that news stopped me dead in my tracks. I invite the folks who love to disagree with me (and everybody else too) to let me know if it is still okay to trust mint.com. To switch banks to get mint.com is quite an endorsement. Can you tell us what is so special about them? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] a new word?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireline_(networking) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
On Jan 2, 2010, at 8:34 PM, mike wrote: First hands on...seems like any other android phone. Apple haters are desperate to have an iPhone knock off to praise. Its been three years since Apple first introduced the iPhone. Frankly, I find it unbelievable that nobody has produced an effective knock off. Three years! That should be long enough for even M$ to give us a Zune copy. So far the Android is as close as anybody has come. I recently spent some time with a BlackBerry. I can't believe RIM is still in business. A good demonstration of how much IT fears Apple. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Here we go again....
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:10 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Ok that worked amazingly well. I now get a solid signal on both 5 and 9 with numbers in the high eighties. I had to put the pie pan on at a rakish angle and made a ring of tinfoil to hold up the pan. Good for you. Yes angles can be funny. A while back I knocked over my antenna and it was at about 45° pitch and yaw. Reception was much improved, but it really looked like I was a lazy housekeeper. The pie pan looks better. It did degrade the signal on a bunch of the MHZ stations but I don't speak Japanese or any of the other languages. I'm a news junkie and I find that MHz is my best source of news. US TV networks have mostly abandoned serious news for stories about kittens and handicapped children and cable is the land of screaming idiots. PBS has just cut back their news programming with more cuts to come. MHz has one great newscast after another. These are produced for a US audience so they cover as much or more US news as US networks, plus news of their countries, plus international news. I love it. I'm particularly impressed and surprised by Al Jazeera. Their English service is trying to out BBC the BBC. High quality and smart analysis with no propaganda. They also broadcast RT, which is a bit like Fox. Annoying disinformation. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] sound machine advice
On Jan 2, 2010, at 10:53 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Where I live people hunt all year around. Laws? What laws? They do target practice in their back yards. They use each other for target practice--really. BTW, most of these neighbors are from WV, VA, KY, but now live in MD. I was out for a stroll in the woods one day and a scary looking character jumped out from behind a tree, holding his rifle, yelling, ya scarrd muh skwarrl--luckily all he was shooting that day was squirrels and possums--in July. And the NRA has the news media so scared that they rarely report of the realities of catering to the gun nuts. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:32 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: Ok I got as first up in googe http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=246912 and in bing I got Forget Bing, that's not the point. The point is that we need a common point of reference. When you click on the Google link you should end up at the same site as the rest of us do. If you end up at http://free-video-dictionary.com/ads/ then you are pwned. I think HijackThis is probably the best next step as it specializes in browser hijacking methods (and is free). This is powerful medicine. Use with care! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
On Jan 3, 2010, at 11:00 AM, mike wrote: RIM has been doing this years, they are (for the most part) dependable and until recently the easiest best way to sync email which was it's most touted feature. As recent as 3.0 release iPhone didn't have full exchange support and those users with the BB need that kind of integration. There is also the fact that there are diehards who refuse to give up a hardware keyboard, some minds won't be changed on that front. That doesn't change the fact that the BB is a terrible device. The screen and keyboard are both small and cramped. The icons are badly designed. The scroll ball is painful to use. The user interface is often cryptic. My ancient Palm is much easier to use: better screen and better keyboard. The BB doesn't even have a touch screen. Yuck! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:30 AM, Constance Warner wrote: Hey, weren't YOU one of the people arguing FOR universal broadband access, as an essential qualification for participating in our modern economy? I still do. I'm just excluding gun owners. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Constance Warner wrote: I'm mainly concerned for people who can't live in Montgomery County, but who must live in places where service is much poorer, is nonexistent, or is beyond the financial means of most inhabitants. So if I decide I want to wire my outhouse for broadband, Eric should be compelled to haul a cable or go to jail? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 3, 2010, at 2:47 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: Guys, don't freak out. Local wired telephony is regulated at the state level. It's a utility. Regardless of what I WANT to do with the network, you all vote for the politicians that make the rules. Not exactly true. You could sell off that part of the business to an undercapitalized company that you know will fail terribly. Heck, you could even spin off a company of your own to sell it to. Or spin out your profitable bits to a new company. Or you could become the equivalent of a slum lord and starve that part of the network. You could blame it on terrorists. Ultimately there is no way to force you to do something that you don't want to do. And that is not necessarily a bad thing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
On Jan 3, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Christopher Range wrote: 1. I have no idea what 'pwned' is, unless that is a major spelling error. You could try reading the Wikipedia entry. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] nexus one, the 'google' phone
On Jan 3, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Allen Firstenberg wrote: All BBs, apparently, have a feature that lets the IT department shut down the phone in the event it is lost or stolen, while none of the others do. iPhone does. Also lets you locate the phone on a map, send messages to it, and erase its contents. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Christopher Range wrote: When I am in Firefox and, I do a search on Google, when I click on one of the links in the search, it goes to an entirely different address than, the address shown with the link. What could be the reason for this happening? When you click on a link on a Google search results page the link goes back to Google with the URL of the site you want to go to passed as a parameter. Google records your action and may do other processing based on your Google preference settings. It could be that something odd is happening there. But you really did not provide us with enough detail for us to make sense out of any of this. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 2, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Constance Warner wrote: This whole thing looks like the replacement of light rail with cars and GM-built buses in the 30's and 40's. Right now, municipalities are trying to rebuild what was destroyed in the name of corporate profits. Destroying low-cost public transit wasn't a good idea, and abolishing landlines isn't either. You have the right to live almost anywhere you like, but that does not give you the right to a subsidy from the rest of us. You get many benefits from living in the outback, both psychic and financial. It is not right for you happily take all the good and then demand that others pay to ameliorate the negative aspects. You need to decide what you value more, beautiful Internet or beautiful view. If you demand both, then you need to pony up the dough to get it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:46 AM, Marcio wrote: Yes but only Skype to Skype...for free. You old folks may not have noticed, but a modern household is going to have a small computer sitting where the telephone used to sit. It will be running Skype 24/7. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:57 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Well there, you have said it yourself. An orderly plan. That is most assuredly what will be missing from the equation. When, as you say, the time comes, there will have been many vague promises and assurances made by the telcos about ensuring coverage and service to all that will not be met...guaranteed. When we deny the inevitable and keep running with an unsupportable old technology it greatly increases the likelihood that when it finally goes it will go suddenly. Much better to face reality now and establish a long term plan. It took 10 years for TV to go digital and, while not perfect, it transitioned pretty well. Need to do the same for telephony. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 2, 2010, at 12:57 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: My position is that they must FIRST be made to provide an alternative and reliable telephone system to every customer who would lose landline service BEFORE the wires are cut. No promises. They MUST do that FIRST. Why such rampant Socialism? If you live in a place that can be economically served you need to move. Do it now before property values crater. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, rleesimon wrote: They make skype fones. I looked, but don't see the point. Computer has great mic and camera and big screen already built in. Why pay money for something that does so much less and still needs to be connected to a computer? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:40 PM, rleesimon wrote: Skype only free when recipient also has skype ... You think it takes a lot of arm twisting to get somebody to sign up for a service that is free and saves them money? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] sound machine advice
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Tony B wrote: No, no, no. There are very strict laws against discharging firearms within x feet of a dwelling. You're no farther in the woods than I am in Jefferson County, West Virginia, and nobody around here would stand for that. There are very valid reasons not to allow this behavior. Isn't the point of having a gun to flaunt one's lack of good sense and disrespect for law an order? We regularly see news stories of bullet shattered windows in homes, shopping centers, day care facilities, etc. Last night somebody shot up a local church. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
On Jan 2, 2010, at 2:48 PM, John DeCarlo wrote: panjandrum continental Interesting discussion there. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 2, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Constance Warner wrote: It helps everyone if there isn't an underclass that's excluded from basic participation in society, because something that's essential-- like in this case a telephone--is no longer available. Access to basic services with only modest means is particularly important in a period of turmoil (like right now), when no one can be sure of any kind of economic security. Except that you have disadvantaged yourself by your own personal choice and action. I would be with you 100% if they passed a law that females could not apply for an Internet connection. But your situation is very different. You made a free-will decision to live in a location that can not be economically served. There are consequences to that decision. I don't see any justification for your demand that somebody else picks up the tab. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Kill it!!!
On Jan 2, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Constance Warner wrote: It's more like trying to maintain a basic level of civilization. Several questionable aspects here... 1) Does Internet = civilization? 2) Have you not made the choice to live away from civilization? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Dock placement: [Was: Re: [CGUYS] Consternation...]
On Jan 2, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Stephen Brownfield wrote: Continue to hold down the command key and you can tab through the bar. That requires only one hand. No doubt, but the point is getting the job done quickly. Tabbing through a list of a dozen icons, whose position constantly shuffles, is not better than clicking on or dragging a file to an icon that is always in the same location in the Dock. Selecting via Command-Tab is a Windows invention, not suitable for intensive computing. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] MagicJack: a VoIP question
On Jan 2, 2010, at 5:56 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, what if that computer is a Windows machine? Isn't it going to be locking up, crashing or falling victim to viruses all the time? How the heck could that thing possibly be up and running 24/7? Gosh, I wasn't thinking about Windows. No, I have not seen any of those at all. I wasn't thinking about computers used by OLD PEOPLE! Do they Skype at all? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] bug
On Jan 2, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Christopher Range wrote: It sent me to this link: http://free-video-dictionary.com/ads/? You are pwned. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] RAID Revisited
On Dec 31, 2009, at 1:54 PM, mike wrote: John brought it up near the start of the thread. Speed was the only reason we used RAID at the shop I was at, anyone who uses it for backup is an idiot. The speed advantage went away when the drive's magnetic domains got turned 90-degrees. With bits packed so tightly the data rates went way up and the speed advantage of RAID went poof. I won't bother to argue about RAID serving up bits faster. I will argue that it does not matter. A modern drive is a fast as the job requires. It is not worth any effort to go faster. The drive is not the bottleneck. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
