[Cooker] [cooker] my emails are bouncing

[stephen]

i seem to be getting my emails back with various
problems

this one is by way of a test

if it bounces, guess where its going direct

srp

Re: [Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field

[Quel Qun]

Give a try to kdevelop (it's in Air), you'll like it.
---
kk1


>From: "Christopher De Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field
>Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 01:36:14 -0500
>
>Update.. Download completed... as suspected... CD burn was corrupted due to
>the slip of the mouse on my part. Well I tried...Glad a friend is sending 
>me
>a burn in da mail.
>
>Thx fer the feedback.. oh... What is an easy programming tool .. that any
>dufus like me can understand?
>
>take Care
>
>Chris
>

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Re: [Cooker] msec/security was Shutdown

[xe2xpk]

David Walluck wrote:

> WH Bouterse wrote:
> >
> > David! You said,
> >
> > >It's because of msec I believe.. may have been the SysVinit
> > >package too.
> > >find is searching for modified files which could indicate
> > >files with
> > >a trojan in them... personally i hate it, which is why i do
> > >custom...
> >
> >  I was interested in your comment about
> > 'find' and 'custom'.
> > I assume you mean the /etc/security/msec/init-sh/custom.sh?
>
> I meant "/etc/security/msec/init.sh custom", which runs the custom.sh.
> If you choose a security leael from the GUI tool, that will undo your
> custom settings, but if you set it, and run custom afterwards, you will
> have your custom settings.
>
> As for the find, those are the "Do you want me to check for xxx files?"
> questions, which you have to answer no to if you don't want those checks
> to run constantly. Does anacron and crond conflict or can I have both
> running? I don't know.. all I notice is that these finds seem to run way
> to often (more than once a day).
>
> > Or in fact do you mean by 'custom' a custom firewall/ipchains/tripwire
> > kind of setup?
> > I have been running a Tripwire rpm successfully with 6.1 which
> > installed flawlessly and worked right from thestart but have not
> > tried it with 7.0 until more "kinks" get worked out on my 7.0 system.
> >
> > So to any MandrakeSoft folks who might read this;
> > Does msec make something like Tripwire redundant?
>
> No, I meant your first guess. msec doesn't do any firewall things, but
> it would be great if it did in a future version. I have been looking for
> a firewall setup tool that is easy to use. If I do it by hand I always
> end up blocking too much.
>
> >
> > Thanks to All
> >
> > William Bouterse
> > Juneau Alaska
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> David Walluck
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Have you tried GFCC?
is what I use...

Sergio Korlowsky

Re: [Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field

[Clifford Yapp]

>From: "Christopher De Long" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


>Thx fer the feedback.. oh... What is an easy programming tool .. that any
>dufus like me can understand?
>

If you mean an IDE (integrated development environment) I understand 
Kdevelop is supposed to be pretty good. ( http://www.kdevelop.org ) There is 
also Code Crusader ( http://www.newplanetsoftware.com/jcc/ )
If you want tools to develop a graphical interface there is Glade ( 
http://glade.pn.org/ ) and VDK Builder ( 
http://www.programmers.net/artic/Motta/vdkbuilder/index.htm )

Take a look at alpha1.linuxberg.com and freshmeat.net.  They will probably 
have more possibilities.  A third possibility is linux.davecentral.com - he 
rates what he calles "Best of Linux" apps and I think one of those was and 
IDE called Moonshine.  I know there are more but hopefully that should get 
you started.  I'm not much of a programmer, but I think these are some of 
the tools.
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Réponse : Re: [Cooker] Unsubscribe

[elipse]

I also got your Email
///
and I totaly agree with you
what a bug "coocker""".



-- Message d'origine --
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date : 17/01/2000-07h49

Yeah the mailing list is about as buggy as the distribution

Lorraine & Gene Morrison wrote:

> please don't call us stupid.  i have done this now three times.  if you are
> so smart you try it
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Noah Body" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 7:06 PM
> Subject: RE: [Cooker] Unsubscribe
>
> > Why cant these people seem to get the picture... It isnt hard to
> unsubscribe
> >
> > To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the
> > subject :
> >
> > unsubscribe cooker.
> >
> >
> > Its that simple, so do it.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 8:01 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Cooker] Unsubscribe
> >
> >
> > Please unsubscribe
> >
> >

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As I got up in front of them, I felt an intoxication that had nothing to
do with alcohol.  It was the intoxication of being a public spectacle.

-- Homer Simpson
   Dancin' Homer
--

Re: [Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field

[Christopher De Long]

Update.. Download completed... as suspected... CD burn was corrupted due to
the slip of the mouse on my part. Well I tried...Glad a friend is sending me
a burn in da mail.

Thx fer the feedback.. oh... What is an easy programming tool .. that any
dufus like me can understand?

take Care

Chris

Re: [Cooker] Unsubscribe

[Mike Palczewski]

Yeah the mailing list is about as buggy as the distribution
Lorraine & Gene Morrison wrote:
please don't call us stupid.  i have done this
now three times.  if you are
so smart you try it
- Original Message -
From: "Noah Body" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Cooker] Unsubscribe
> Why cant these people seem to get the picture... It isnt hard to
unsubscribe
>
> To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in
the
> subject :
>
> unsubscribe cooker.
>
>
> Its that simple, so do it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 8:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] Unsubscribe
>
>
> Please unsubscribe
>
>

-- 
--
As I got up in front of them, I felt an intoxication that had nothing to
do with alcohol.  It was the intoxication of being a public spectacle.

    -- Homer Simpson
   Dancin' Homer
--
 

Re: [Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field

[Vox]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Christopher De Long wrote:
> My basic qualifications to release me from the gates chains are easy
> connection to the internet 

kppp, wvdial...both do it with ease, if you have a good
external modem...I hate internal modems :)

> working... also flawless or somewhat flawless Cd Burning... 

cdparanoia/mkisofs make a great job at thisI can be
burning while I'm surfing the webwindows can only dream of such a
thing :)

> and Mp3 Rippin.

there's a ton of programs to do this, search freshmeat.net :)

Arioshi ba :)

Vox

-- 

Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs.  
Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use 
_higher_ technology than everyone else.
-- Donald B. Marti Jr.

Re: [Cooker] AIR Iso is okay, but netscape problems.

[Quel Qun]

Install compat-glibc-5.3-2.0.7.5mdk.rpm and Netscape should go.

Http might fail because the host name cannot be resolved... In that case you 
would have something like:

Starting httpd: httpd: cannot determine local host name.
Use the ServerName directive to set it manually.
   [FAILED]
Hope it helps,
---
kk1


>From: "3cow now" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Cooker] AIR Iso is okay, but netscape problems.
>Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:37:33 PST
>
>Well after my 4th attempt at dnloading the AIR ISO, I manage to get one 
>that
>works!
>
>I complete the install, and everything looks good, execpt for the HTTP
>failing when booting up...
>
>But I get into X-Windows (GNOME), and I try to start netscape.. NOTHING.
>
>Then I open a shell, and try to run netscape, and here is what I get:
>
>
>/usr/bin/netscape: /usr/i586-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file
>or directory
>/usr/bin/netscape: exec: /usr/i586-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2: cannot
>execute: No such file or directory
>
>
>What's going on?
>
>- Gene
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Re: [Cooker] TO those who wish to unsubscribe

[Lorraine & Gene Morrison]

i want to thank you for your time i have done as you have suggest.  thanks
again there really is a nice person out there that understands our problem

- Original Message -
From: "Civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 8:57 PM
Subject: [Cooker] TO those who wish to unsubscribe


> Well, we are encountering flames which will tend to push those
> who would have value to each other on this list away from it.
> And over what?
>
> The unsubscribe doesn't work.  Not if you send email to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  with message body
>
> unsubscribe cooker
>
> Not even if you use precisely the same email that you started
> with.
>
> I have a collection of "Unsubscribe Successful" messages from the
> cooker list
>
> Each time within 9-15 hours email began to arrive again.
> I managed ONE successful unsubscribe which lasted for 24 hours,
> but I didn't really want to unsub, so I resubscribed.  I just
> wanted to make sure the folks having problems getting off the
> list were listened to.
>
> SO
>
> You folk wanting to unsub  Try the new button at the email
> lists page of http://www.linux-mandrake.com--Yes there is an
> "Unsubscribe" button right next to the "subscribe" one, for every
> list.
>
> Keep trying, there does appear to be something wrong yet, but it
> will likely be fixed.  And it does not absolutely stop you from
> unsubbing, just means you may have to do it more than once.
>
> Civileme
>
>
> --
> experimentation involving more than 500 trials with an
> ordinary slice of bread and a tablespoon of peanut butter
> has determined that the probability a random toss will
> land sticky side down (SSD) is approximately .98
>
>
>
>

Re: [Cooker] Unsubscribe

[Lorraine & Gene Morrison]

please don't call us stupid.  i have done this now three times.  if you are
so smart you try it

- Original Message -
From: "Noah Body" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Cooker] Unsubscribe


> Why cant these people seem to get the picture... It isnt hard to
unsubscribe
>
> To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the
> subject :
>
> unsubscribe cooker.
>
>
> Its that simple, so do it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 8:01 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] Unsubscribe
>
>
> Please unsubscribe
>
>

Re: [Cooker] AIR question part 2 (reply)

[xe2xpk]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > hum, well, seems like the disabling supermount for security > 4 did not make its
> > way :-(
> >
>
> You shouldn't use supermount if it is for a server :)
>
> --
> -- Yoann http://www.security-addict.org
>  It is well known that M$ product don't make a free() after a malloc(),
> the unix community wish them good luck for their future developement.

Thanks Yoann...
re-intalled and now is ok,
for your iformation the previous try was an upgrade
did a clean install, and seems to be working fine now

Sergio Korlowsky

Re: [Cooker] AiR

[kallador]

Is the newest iso 
the final of 7.0???
just wondering
from the way that it sounds and the shipping to stores in Feb
i assume it is the final

Re: [Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field

[Christopher De Long]

thx... I am going to take my chances... I am uh... currently using a Windoze
machine to acquire the ISO image. so I don't know if "trimming" is possible.
I am going to stay on this list... seems to have linux knowledge I desire.
Maybe I will be windowless soon. That is the ultimate plan for mandrake 7.0.
I have been using mandrake off and on since mandrake 5.3. I am still
somewhat shackled to the world of windows.

My basic qualifications to release me from the gates chains are easy
connection to the internet a good Xwindows webcam program so I can keep
my cam site going also to get the winnov vid capture card working
there are drivers for this but I have yet to really DIG in and get that
working... also flawless or somewhat flawless Cd Burning... and Mp3 Rippin.

Take Care

Chris

Re: [Cooker] TO those who wish to unsubscribe

[Hoyt]

- Original Message -
From: Civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 9:57 PM
Subject: [Cooker] TO those who wish to unsubscribe
>
> The unsubscribe doesn't work.  Not if you send email to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  with message body
>
> unsubscribe cooker
>
> Not even if you use precisely the same email that you started
> with.
>
>
> You folk wanting to unsub  Try the new button at the email
> lists page of http://www.linux-mandrake.com--Yes there is an
> "Unsubscribe" button right next to the "subscribe" one, for every
> list.
>
> Keep trying, there does appear to be something wrong yet, but it
> will likely be fixed.  And it does not absolutely stop you from
> unsubbing, just means you may have to do it more than once.

I had no trouble with using the identical web-page procedure when I left for
vacation last month.
Not a single email from this list was in my box when I returned.

I concur with Civileme.
Forget the polemics; use what works.

I am more concerned with bug-fixing 7.0.

Hoyt   (still trying to obtain a copy)

Re: [Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field

[Derek Wildstar]

You may be able to recover the download ... but you have to make sure you
do it from the image you started with ;)

You have a partial file on your hard drive, and know approx. how much of
you you need to trim off the end to make it "ok"

you could do something like this:

/backup/cdwork (/dev/pts/2) dwild@argo> ls -l mandrake70.iso
-rw---   1 dwildadm  327155712 Jan 16 22:06 mandrake70.iso
/backup/cdwork (/dev/pts/2) dwild@argo> du -m mandrake70.iso
312
/backup/cdwork (/dev/pts/2) dwild@argo> dd if=mandrake70.iso \
of=recovered_mandrake70.iso bs=1M count=310
^^
This would take the first 310MB of the file mandrake70.iso and save it in
recovered_mandrake70.iso ... if you had continued the wrong file for 30s
you probably didn't get more than 100-200k or so...but to be on the safe
side trim 2m off what "du -m" tells you (du always "rounds" up ..
well it doesn't really round, see the man page if you want to know what
it's really doing =) )  Remember to rename your original so you have a
backup copy, then rename your new file (recovered_mandrake70.iso) to
the real name.  You should then be able to resume your download and have a
valid CD image when you're donecheck the "md5sum" output when you're
done to make sure.  Also make sure you're getting the same copy of the iso
or you'll waste your time.

-dws

PS I tested this using dd version 4.0 (dd --version) and ncftp -- picked
"resume" after trimming a 1008k file to 950k.  md5sum, diff, and gunzip -t
all showed the trimmed then resumed file to be error-free.  welcome to the
wonders of linux black magic ;)

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Christopher De Long wrote:

> Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 21:41:53 -0500
> From: Christopher De Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field
> 
> Ok... I have been downloading mandrake 70.iso for 3 days now. I know silly
> of me to do huh? When I was downloading the Oxygen ISO at 90% the final came
> out...so I could not resume for some reason.A friend of mine has dsl and so
> he downloaded it for me and put it on a personal ftp server. I was able to
> resume and finish. I installed it so I could test it while I confirmed the
> new ISO was indeed the final version release. This was confirmed. So I
> started downloading the latest ISO from the 2 cows site. everything was fine
> .. until.. at 90% the ftp server disconnected and wouldn't let me
> reconnect. So I keep trying to connect.I finally do reconnect. Low and
> behold there is a new ISO file in the folder. Mandrake 6.1.1 ISO. before I
> realized ... since I was getting use to resuming and resuming. I selected
> the mandrake6.1.1 file. I chose resume ... Well normally if it was the WRONG
> file I was resuming to it would tell you. well it didn't so for about 30
> secs I resumed the 6.1.1 file to the 7.0 file. What I am asking is this. My
> logic says the download is now corrupted. My stubborness says... finish the
> download anyway. Is logic correct?
> 
> Take Care all
> 
> Chris
> 
> PS anybody here use the g400 max with Mandrake 7.0?
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Cooker] Suggested add-ons

[David Walluck]

Gael Duval wrote:
> 
> Craig Foster wrote:
> >
> > Just a couple of requests...
> >
> > 1) SSH added and enabled by default (not Telnet). How would US export
> > restrictions affect this.
> 
> not possible:
> 
> 1/ it would break the US (and other country) export restrictions
> 2/ AFAIK it uses the RSA algorithm which is patented until the end of
> this year


openssh doesn't use rsaref as far as i know. i too would really like to
see ssh enabled, and telnet disabled.. especially for the high security
modes. i also prefer proftpd, but i know it's had some security problems
in the past. but it's good to disabled inetd and have your daemons run
standalone.

-- 
Sincerely,

David Walluck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Cooker] msec/security was Shutdown

[David Walluck]

WH Bouterse wrote:
> 
> David! You said,
> 
> >It's because of msec I believe.. may have been the SysVinit
> >package too.
> >find is searching for modified files which could indicate
> >files with
> >a trojan in them... personally i hate it, which is why i do
> >custom...
> 
>  I was interested in your comment about
> 'find' and 'custom'.
> I assume you mean the /etc/security/msec/init-sh/custom.sh?

I meant "/etc/security/msec/init.sh custom", which runs the custom.sh.
If you choose a security leael from the GUI tool, that will undo your
custom settings, but if you set it, and run custom afterwards, you will
have your custom settings.

As for the find, those are the "Do you want me to check for xxx files?"
questions, which you have to answer no to if you don't want those checks
to run constantly. Does anacron and crond conflict or can I have both
running? I don't know.. all I notice is that these finds seem to run way
to often (more than once a day). 

> Or in fact do you mean by 'custom' a custom firewall/ipchains/tripwire
> kind of setup?
> I have been running a Tripwire rpm successfully with 6.1 which
> installed flawlessly and worked right from thestart but have not
> tried it with 7.0 until more "kinks" get worked out on my 7.0 system.
> 
> So to any MandrakeSoft folks who might read this;
> Does msec make something like Tripwire redundant?

No, I meant your first guess. msec doesn't do any firewall things, but
it would be great if it did in a future version. I have been looking for
a firewall setup tool that is easy to use. If I do it by hand I always
end up blocking too much.

> 
> Thanks to All
> 
> William Bouterse
> Juneau Alaska

-- 
Sincerely,

David Walluck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[Cooker] 2 Cows were in a field

[Christopher De Long]

Ok... I have been downloading mandrake 70.iso for 3 days now. I know silly
of me to do huh? When I was downloading the Oxygen ISO at 90% the final came
out...so I could not resume for some reason.A friend of mine has dsl and so
he downloaded it for me and put it on a personal ftp server. I was able to
resume and finish. I installed it so I could test it while I confirmed the
new ISO was indeed the final version release. This was confirmed. So I
started downloading the latest ISO from the 2 cows site. everything was fine
.. until.. at 90% the ftp server disconnected and wouldn't let me
reconnect. So I keep trying to connect.I finally do reconnect. Low and
behold there is a new ISO file in the folder. Mandrake 6.1.1 ISO. before I
realized ... since I was getting use to resuming and resuming. I selected
the mandrake6.1.1 file. I chose resume ... Well normally if it was the WRONG
file I was resuming to it would tell you. well it didn't so for about 30
secs I resumed the 6.1.1 file to the 7.0 file. What I am asking is this. My
logic says the download is now corrupted. My stubborness says... finish the
download anyway. Is logic correct?

Take Care all

Chris

PS anybody here use the g400 max with Mandrake 7.0?

[Cooker] cdrecord

[serge]

I found, that v1.8-29_alpha is shipped with Mandrake7.0(Air) too.
But v1.8-40_prerelease is released!

Serge

RE: [Cooker] unsubscribe

[Derek Wildstar]

Yup, looks like we have a real linux guru here...check out the headers.

From: "Noah Body" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
...
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
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Please do not act like an ass unless you really know the following:

1) what the situation is
2) what the problem is
3) how to fix it

Now can we please get back to fixing Mandrake?

thank you.
-dws


On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Noah Body wrote:

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> A, good one.  Nice empty email.  Look at where it is being sent to.  You
> are sending it to the wrong place.  Send it to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Can it be much easier than that?
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Gaëtan Van Pestel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 8:14 PM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: [Cooker] unsubscribe
> 
> 
> 
> 

RE: [Cooker] unsubscribe

[Nael Mohammad]

Not 
everyone can be this ignorant. Can you?

  -Original Message-From: Noah Body 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 5:30 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [Cooker] 
  unsubscribe
  A, good one.  Nice empty email.  Look at where it is 
  being sent to.  You are sending it to the wrong place.  Send it 
  to  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Can it be much easier 
  than that?
  
-Original Message-From: Gaëtan Van Pestel 
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[Cooker] TO those who wish to unsubscribe

[Civileme]

Well, we are encountering flames which will tend to push those
who would have value to each other on this list away from it.
And over what?

The unsubscribe doesn't work.  Not if you send email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  with message body

unsubscribe cooker

Not even if you use precisely the same email that you started
with.

I have a collection of "Unsubscribe Successful" messages from the
cooker list

Each time within 9-15 hours email began to arrive again.
I managed ONE successful unsubscribe which lasted for 24 hours,
but I didn't really want to unsub, so I resubscribed.  I just
wanted to make sure the folks having problems getting off the
list were listened to.

SO

You folk wanting to unsub  Try the new button at the email
lists page of http://www.linux-mandrake.com--Yes there is an
"Unsubscribe" button right next to the "subscribe" one, for every
list.

Keep trying, there does appear to be something wrong yet, but it
will likely be fixed.  And it does not absolutely stop you from
unsubbing, just means you may have to do it more than once.

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RE: [Cooker] unsubscribe

[Noah Body]

A, good one.  Nice empty email.  Look at where it is being 
sent to.  You are sending it to the wrong place.  Send it to  

[EMAIL PROTECTED].  Can it be much easier than 
that?

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RE: [Cooker] Idiots

[Noah Body]

Actually, some say I am.  Thank 
you

  -Original Message-From: Gaëtan Van Pestel 
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  Idiots
  Are you such a clever man??
  
- Oorspronkelijk bericht - 
Van: 
Noah Body 

Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Verzonden: maandag 17 januari 2000 
1:51
Onderwerp: [Cooker] Idiots

Hey Genius
 
To 
unsubscribe
 

To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put 
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  [Cooker]
  unsubscibe

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[Gaëtan Van Pestel]

Re: [Cooker] Idiots

[Gaëtan Van Pestel]

Are you such a clever man??

  - Oorspronkelijk bericht - 
  Van: 
  Noah Body 

  Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Hey 
  Genius
   
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[Cooker] Bug in XFree86 spec file

[John Cavan]

Hi all,

I noticed when building XFree86 3.3.6 the spec file shows the Freetype
include directory as /usr/include when it is /usr/include/freetype. At
least this is where the Air version of Freetype's devel package puts it.
When the line is corrected in the spec, X will build properly, otherwise
the font library bombs.

I'm also still having a problem with the SVGA server for 3.3.6. When I
use the Air binary version, everything is fine. When I compile the
driver from 3dfx, everything is fine. But, when I rebuild the source RPM
from Air, the X server (SVGA) refuses to read the modeline information
in the XF86Config file, though it appears to read everything else
correctly.

For reference, it is built with the following command:

rpm -bb --target k6 --clean --rmsource ...

Any ideas?

Thanks,
John

RE: [Cooker] Unsubscribe

[Noah Body]

Why cant these people seem to get the picture... It isnt hard to unsubscribe

To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the
subject :

unsubscribe cooker.


Its that simple, so do it.

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[Cooker] Idiots

[Noah Body]

Hey 
Genius
 
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To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put in the
subject :
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[Gaëtan Van Pestel]

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[Cooker] AIR Iso is okay, but netscape problems.

[3cow now]

Well after my 4th attempt at dnloading the AIR ISO, I manage to get one that 
works!

I complete the install, and everything looks good, execpt for the HTTP 
failing when booting up...

But I get into X-Windows (GNOME), and I try to start netscape.. NOTHING.

Then I open a shell, and try to run netscape, and here is what I get:


/usr/bin/netscape: /usr/i586-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file 
or directory
/usr/bin/netscape: exec: /usr/i586-glibc20-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2: cannot 
execute: No such file or directory


What's going on?

- Gene
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[Cooker] Fw: unsubscribe

[Lorraine & Gene Morrison]

 
- Original Message - 
From: Lorraine & Gene 
Morrison 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 6:09 PM
Subject: unsubscribe

to all of those people that are trying to unsubscribe i have 
now told cooker that will be sending the same amount of email that i 
received.  example if you receive 75 sent them 75 back.  maybe then 
they will take us off their list.
 
here is the other address that i am going to send the same 
amount of email to them. the addresses are [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
[EMAIL PROTECTED].  
someone should soon get upset about these coming to them.
 
the only downfall will be that when you send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will 
receive them back.  But at this point it will be worth.
 

[Cooker] unsubscribe

[Lorraine & Gene Morrison]

unsubscribe me now.  if i am not unsubscribe this 
minute.  i will be sending you the same amount of emails that i 
receive.  eg 75 you will get 75 from me.  and so will  [EMAIL PROTECTED] and so will [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
get me the fuck off this mailing list now
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Re: [Cooker] mount question

[Clifford Yapp]

>From: Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>use the `auto' filesystem.
>
>be warned that i try the filesystems from /proc/filesystems. So if hfs.o is 
>not
>loaded it doesn't test hfs. In that case put hfs in /etc/filesystems

Thanks Pixel!  Worked like a charm.

Why isn't that setup the default in Mandrake?  It would seem to be a selling 
point if Mandrake could say it supported Mac, Windows, and Linux disks out 
of box.  Just curious, but it might be another plus for people who have had 
to pay for the commercial Windows solutions.
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Re: [Cooker] Suggested add-ons

[Craig Foster]

What about adding it to the crypo additions in the install?
- Original Message -
From: "Gael Duval" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Suggested add-ons


> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
> Craig Foster wrote:
> >
> > Just a couple of requests...
> >
> > 1) SSH added and enabled by default (not Telnet). How would US export
> > restrictions affect this.
>
> not possible:
>
> 1/ it would break the US (and other country) export restrictions
> 2/ AFAIK it uses the RSA algorithm which is patented until the end of
> this year
>
> G.
> --
> < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> < +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 >
>
>

Re: [Cooker] mount question

[Pixel]

"Clifford Yapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was wondering if it is possible to use fstab to have mount check for 
> multiple file formats before it gives up on a disk.  Right now my zip drive 
> is configured for vfat, but I would like it to be able to mount hfs as well 
> without having to su root and tell it specifically.  Is this possible?

use the `auto' filesystem.

be warned that i try the filesystems from /proc/filesystems. So if hfs.o is not
loaded it doesn't test hfs. In that case put hfs in /etc/filesystems

Re: [Cooker] grpmi-0.9-12mdk anytime soon?

[Pixel]

"David Odin (aka DindinX)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 09:21:27PM -0800, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> > How long after a new package is cut should it show up on the mirrors?
> > 
> > I am (im-)patiently awaiting the arrival of grpmi-0.9-12mdk so that I
> > can test it with some local changes here.  I actually need it so I can
> > release my test case and get some work done that is depending on my test
> > case.  Stuff's starting to back up behind the test case.  :-)
> > 
> 
>   Isn't grpmi part of MandrakeUpdate?

this grpmi is in air

Re: [Cooker] grpmi-0.9-12mdk anytime soon?

[Sandor Takacs]

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, David Odin (aka DindinX) wrote:

> I am currently redesigning MandrakeUpdate and grpmi. Have a look in the
> CVS. Alas, I don't make rpm (I still don't know how to make em).
Do you plan MandrakeUpdate for cooker? Don't use updates dir, just a dir
for Mandrake/RPMS ?

-- 
Takika

[Cooker] mount question

[Clifford Yapp]

I was wondering if it is possible to use fstab to have mount check for 
multiple file formats before it gives up on a disk.  Right now my zip drive 
is configured for vfat, but I would like it to be able to mount hfs as well 
without having to su root and tell it specifically.  Is this possible?

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Re: [Cooker] grpmi-0.9-12mdk anytime soon?

[David Odin (aka DindinX)]

On Sun, Jan 09, 2000 at 09:21:27PM -0800, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> How long after a new package is cut should it show up on the mirrors?
> 
> I am (im-)patiently awaiting the arrival of grpmi-0.9-12mdk so that I
> can test it with some local changes here.  I actually need it so I can
> release my test case and get some work done that is depending on my test
> case.  Stuff's starting to back up behind the test case.  :-)
> 

  Isn't grpmi part of MandrakeUpdate?

I am currently redesigning MandrakeUpdate and grpmi. Have a look in the
CVS. Alas, I don't make rpm (I still don't know how to make em).

  Pixel, could you make a rpm out of the grpmi from the CVS?

 Regards,

DindinX

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[Cooker] Re: [FUN] bug#590: gdm

[Pixel]

Marita Paulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I use gdm with mandrake 7.0. I select Enlightenment as login, but the
> next time default is selected. 

yes, that's gdm not saving the information (nor per user nor for everybody as
far as i know)

> In the .xsession file it says
> enlightenment, so the file isn't read.

i just tried and this worked as expected:

% echo exec enlightenment > ~/.xsession
% chmod a+x ~/.xsession

RE: [Cooker] BE6 II

[Ken Hughes]

Just installed 7.0 Air from a ISO image I downloaded.   I had no unknown PCI
Devices and it recognized all my memory.  I also can access my UDMA66 27 Gig
Maxtor Drive hde.  My cdrom and HP IDE CD Writer was also setup properly.
Even my AWE 64 sound card worked.  The only problem was that I have 2 video
cards in my computer a 3dfx 3500 agp and a ATI Rage Pro PCI.  It tried to
use the ATI server on the 3dfx just had to tell it the right one.  Can't
wait till Linux can do multiple cards.

Great Job
Ken


-Original Message-
From: David Foresman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 3:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] BE6 II


I had this same problem with all the mandrake beta's and mandrake 7.0 air.
I have an abit bp6, it was only seeing 64meg of 256meg.  I had to install
using mem=256M.  This is definatly a problem with mandrake 7, because
slackware 7, redhat 6.1, mandrake 6.1, caldera, and corel linux have no
problems detecting the memory.  I test a lot of linux's :).


- Original Message -
From: "Civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] BE6 II


> Ken Hughes wrote:
>
> > I have been using 7.0 on a ASUS P2B motherboard with no major problems I
> > then installed a an ABIT BE6 II in the same computer and am now unable
to
> > install 7.0 on it numerous problems happen.
> >
> > I upgraded the mother board to the latest bios and disabbled the UDMA 66
> > controler.
> >
> > It only reconizes 65meg of 128meg of ram and fails loading ramdisk it
does
> > allow me to continue for a while before finally failing altogether.
Even
> > worse problems if UDMA 66 is enabled.  I also see that during the
install
> > lots of motherboard devices are not reconized.
> >
> > My question is this just a buggy mother board or just to new for Linux.
> > Should I switch back to my P2B or just wait for the support for the
board
> >
> > Ken
>
> Ummm, what you describe sounds suspiciously like a memory controller
problem
> OR a seating problem on the memory  Check the bottoms of the sockets
for
> foreign material.  If it is seeing the memory intermittently it is a sure
> install failure.
>
> Civileme
>
>
>

Re: [Cooker] Partitions

[TRUB]

I have very similar, but I installed to the 1st partition of my 2nd drive,
and installed lilo to there.
Then I booted from a floppy.
at root I typed "dd if=/dev/hdb5 of=/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1"
this created an file of the boot.
then copied it to a dos floppy "mcopy bootsect.lnx a:"
then back to W98/W2K
edited boot.ini and inserted "c:/bootsect.lnx="Mandrake 7 Air"
and finished off by copying bootsect.lnx from the floppy to c:/
I end up with windows nt bootloader working perfectly with the appropriate
Mandrake options, and no longer need to boot from a floppy.
Keep the floppy as a boot disk anyways.

- Original Message -
From: Gaëtan Van Pestel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Partitions


> Hi,
> I'm running Mandrake, Win 98 and Win2000 the same way, I have installed
> this way: Win98, Win2000 and last Mandrake. the bootloader from Win2000
> with Win98 and later the boatloader from Mandrake with Win98(Dos).
> All works well this way
> Regards,
> Gaëtan
>
> Brad Boutwell wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Guys, I know this is NOT a support forum, but I need a quick answer on
> > this one...
> >
> > I am trying to boot Mandrake, WIN98, and NT 4.0 off ONE 20 GB
> > HAD...anyone have a suggestion of load order/partitions/methods etc?
> > I have not been very successful to date...
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Brad
>

Re: [Cooker] Changelog list?

[Ron Stodden]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Hakan Tandogan wrote:

>   Quick question: Is the changelog list down or are there simply no new
> RPMs for cooker / contrib / crypto?

Neither.  Most probably you have been arbitrarily dropped from the list
without notice or permission, llike I was a few days ago. Just rejoin the
list.

 -- 

Regards,

Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.

Re: [Cooker] UNSUBSCRIBE ME

[kallador]

F00l
Unsubscripte YourSelf
idiot!!
 
 
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[Cooker] supermount, rpmdrake

[ivar]

a) It seems to me that supermount exists only in kernel 2.2.14 for mandrake.
(at least I didnt see it
in any 2.3.3x kernel). Where can I find the patch?
b) when trying to install drakerpm, the program says "need newer version of
rpm". I'm using 3.0.3
from AIR.
[root@arvuti4 RPMS]# rpm -i rpmdrake-0.9-7mdk.i586.rpm
error: file rpmdrake-0.9-7mdk.i586.rpm requires a newer version of RPM
[root@arvuti4 RPMS]# rpm -q rpm
rpm-3.0.3-43mdk

Regards,
Ivar

Re: [Cooker] AIR question part 2

[yoann]

Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Sergio Korlowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > but I installed linux-secure for a server.
> > using expert mode.
> 
> hum, well, seems like the disabling supermount for security > 4 did not make its
> way :-(
> 

You shouldn't use supermount if it is for a server :)

-- 
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 It is well known that M$ product don't make a free() after a malloc(),
the unix community wish them good luck for their future developement.

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Re: [Cooker] Air 7.0 ISO - this does not bode well :-(

[stephen]

will someone please state if there is a problem, if so, could
a difference file (xdelta?? ) be put up as well as a new iso
for those people patiently downloading ?

srp

Re: [Cooker] AIR question part 2

[Pixel]

Sergio Korlowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> but I installed linux-secure for a server.
> using expert mode.

hum, well, seems like the disabling supermount for security > 4 did not make its
way :-(

Re: [Cooker] AIR question part 2

[Sergio Korlowsky]

Pixel wrote:

> Sergio Korlowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have another problem thou, I choose supermount at instalation
> > and it just doesn't work
>
> check the kernel you are using is kernel and not kernel-linus (or kernel-secure)

but I installed linux-secure for a server.
using expert mode.
ok... I re-install   Thanks pixel

RE: [Cooker] Re: how are users supposed to get added to the "audio" group?

[Thomas M. Beaudry]

Interesting argument about whether Linux will be able to attract Joe Bloe
without going brain dead.  Anybody remember ten years back when the big
argument for M$ over Apple was that although it was more complicated to
configure, you were better off 'cause it gave you more control in the end?

If you want brain dead configuration, go Apple.

If you want buggy configuration, go M$.

If you want something that you can make work despite whatever is thrown at
you, go Linux.

The reality is that we have three different OS's for three different
audiences.  If Linux dumbs down, it's not going to blow M$ nor Apple out of
the water.  It's just going to lose the audience it has now as they migrate
to OpenBSD to avoid another M$ or Apple...

Re: [Cooker] Air 7.0 ISO whats wrong??

[Alex Hayes]

I also can't install from either the .iso, or from a FTP mirror.  I get to 
"intering 2nd stage install" and then get either nothing further or a 
"signal 9 error, exiting install".

My install source is sitting on a FAT32 partition (target is seperate 
drive).  I assume this does not matter, as I had gotten into the graphical 
install stage on a beta test, and then after I updated to final this problem 
surfaced.  anyone else see this.

Original Message Follows
From: "Louie Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Air 7.0 ISO whats wrong??
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 22:04:53 -0700

I downloaded the AIR release and burned a cd image, I start the install and
I get "initializing CD-ROM , mount failed - invalid argument, Error mounting
Ram disk, This error should not be happening, shutting down and rebooting
the system." This is the stangest set of messages I have ever seen. Any
suggestings??

I am using a Dell Deminsion xps200s, 64m ram, Matrox Millinnium 4mb video,
Pentium 200, w/ HP 8100 R/W CD-ROM drive.


 > Hello
 >
 > I dloaded the AIR release again, and burned another cd-image. It got to
the
 > point where it says "Mounting 2nd Ramdrive..."
 > Then it sits there for a long time, and then goes back to "Initializing
 > CD-ROM".. Has anyone else been having problems with the new 7.0 AIR
release?
 >
 > - Gene



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RE: [Cooker] Re: how are users supposed to get added to the "audio" group?

[Thomas M. Beaudry]

Which comes back to my original posts, yes this should have been handled by
install.  But since it wasn't (and your original post only asked how to do
it without hacking a /etc file), I suggested using "usermod" to add the user
to the "audio" group.

So we're still putting up with your whining.  Your question was answered but
you're mad 'cause I couldn't understand what you really meant by reading
your mind...

> -Original Message-
>
> This is going way off the original point I was trying to make:  The user
> configured during installation is not in the "audio" group which is
> necessary if they are going to be able to hear sound on the gnome
> desktop.

Re: [Cooker] AIR question part 2

[Pixel]

Sergio Korlowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have another problem thou, I choose supermount at instalation
> and it just doesn't work


check the kernel you are using is kernel and not kernel-linus (or kernel-secure)

Re: [Cooker] AIR question part 2

[Sergio Korlowsky]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Did anyone notice Linuxconf had some problems within the network
> portion within Oxygen?
>
> The error I had was real subtle:  The network portion was not
> configured correctly.  I resolved the error, but this error occured
> after I upgraded to Oxygen.
>
> Did anyone notice this error?
>
> Anyone have success within Air and Linuxconf?

No... no problem, I used linuxconf from inside DrakConf to configure my
dialup connection
when Upgrading oxygen ---> air replaced initscripts so I had to
reconfigure, not a big deal.
but definetly no problems with linuxconf.

I have another problem thou, I choose supermount at instalation
and it just doesn't work

Jan 16 11:06:25 xe2xpk rc.sysinit: Checking filesystems succeeded
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk modprobe: can't locate module supermount
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk mount: mount: fs type supermount not supported by
kernel
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk modprobe: can't locate module supermount
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk mount: mount: fs type supermount not supported by
kernel
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk modprobe: can't locate module supermount
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk mount: mount: fs type supermount not supported by
kernel
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk modprobe: can't locate module supermount
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk mount: mount: fs type supermount not supported by
kernel
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk modprobe: can't locate module supermount
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk mount: mount: fs type supermount not supported by
kernel
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk rc.sysinit: Mounting local filesystems failed
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk rc.sysinit: Turning on user and group quotas for
local filesystems succeeded
Jan 16 11:06:47 xe2xpk rc.sysinit: Enabling swap space succeeded
Jan 16 11:06:48 xe2xpk mandrake_everytime: Building Window Manager
Sessions succeeded
Jan 16 11:06:49 xe2xpk mandrake_everytime: Disabling Supermount
succeeded


What can I do here?  TIA

Sergio Korlowsky

RE: [Cooker] Handling of install errors

[Noah Body]

I noticed something like that during install as well.  I was using expert
mode.  I reinstalled using recommended and had NO errors?  I guess I should
check my media as well?

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Guy T. Rice
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 1:46 PM
To: Cooker
Subject: [Cooker] Handling of install errors


Yesterday, I attempted to install Mandrake 7.0 (Air).  After reporting a
successful install and rebooting, I got a lot of [FAILED] messages during
bootup, each accompanying an error message about some library or another
being missing.  Finally I get to a login prompt, type "root" or "guy", and
it responds that libpam is missing!  Not even being able to login to the new
install, I rebooted the CD and tried to reinstall.  This time, as it was
installing, I switched to the text console and noted all kinds of CD-ROM
errors as it was installing packages.  Rebooting my old install (I always
try a new distro on my second hard drive, then only do the first if it
works), I attempted to copy the CD-ROM back to an image file so I could
compare it with the md5sum from the FTP site.  It stopped halfway through
copying the data back with an error.  So, the problem is bad media -- fair
enough.  But my question is, why did the installer not complain that it
couldn't read some of the RPMs it was attempting to install?  It just
silently fails to install packages without notifying me, leaving an unusable
distribution since some of the packages it failed to install are critical.
Shouldn't it give me a list of packages it failed to install, especially if
some of them are mandatory packages, rather that reporting a successful
install?

-- Guy T. Rice -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
 "Every human being should pursue his or her own dharma perfectly instead
 of following another's dharma imperfectly."  -- Hindu scriptures

[Cooker] Mail list db

[Jack Foobar]

Alaxon,


 I was wondering how I can be removed from the cooker mailing list.  I'm
getting about 75 emails a day, and have tryed the http removal prog.  It seems
that I'm out of luck for removal.  Do you know who's in charge at mandrakesoft
for maintaining the database for beta-testers?  I would like to be removed if
at all possible.  Thanks in advance.


  Thoreau


Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1

[Cooker] Handling of install errors

[Guy T. Rice]

Yesterday, I attempted to install Mandrake 7.0 (Air).  After reporting a
successful install and rebooting, I got a lot of [FAILED] messages during
bootup, each accompanying an error message about some library or another
being missing.  Finally I get to a login prompt, type "root" or "guy", and
it responds that libpam is missing!  Not even being able to login to the new
install, I rebooted the CD and tried to reinstall.  This time, as it was
installing, I switched to the text console and noted all kinds of CD-ROM
errors as it was installing packages.  Rebooting my old install (I always
try a new distro on my second hard drive, then only do the first if it
works), I attempted to copy the CD-ROM back to an image file so I could
compare it with the md5sum from the FTP site.  It stopped halfway through
copying the data back with an error.  So, the problem is bad media -- fair
enough.  But my question is, why did the installer not complain that it
couldn't read some of the RPMs it was attempting to install?  It just
silently fails to install packages without notifying me, leaving an unusable
distribution since some of the packages it failed to install are critical. 
Shouldn't it give me a list of packages it failed to install, especially if
some of them are mandatory packages, rather that reporting a successful
install?

-- Guy T. Rice -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --
 "Every human being should pursue his or her own dharma perfectly instead
 of following another's dharma imperfectly."  -- Hindu scriptures

[Cooker] msec/security was Shutdown

[WH Bouterse]

David! You said,

>It's because of msec I believe.. may have been the SysVinit
>package too.
>find is searching for modified files which could indicate
>files with
>a trojan in them... personally i hate it, which is why i do
>custom...

 I was interested in your comment about 
'find' and 'custom'. 
I assume you mean the /etc/security/msec/init-sh/custom.sh?

I ran this but I also tried the DrakConf button security-level thingy
and had assumed the 'custom.sh' would cancel it out?
So to partially answer my own question, then 'find' is a result of
one of the security choices either in 'custom.sh' or the the other 
'msec' GUI chooser button program.

Or in fact do you mean by 'custom' a custom firewall/ipchains/tripwire
kind of setup?
I have been running a Tripwire rpm successfully with 6.1 which
installed flawlessly and worked right from thestart but have not
tried it with 7.0 until more "kinks" get worked out on my 7.0 system.

So to any MandrakeSoft folks who might read this;
Does msec make something like Tripwire redundant?

Thanks to All

William Bouterse
Juneau Alaska

Re: [Cooker] Does anyone know what's going on with Zenguin?

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

"Clifford Yapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Since Linux Mandrake has so many user friendly tools, it seems to me like it 
> might be a good idea to integrate the Zenguin installer too.  I have been 
> checking their website, however, and I have seen no activity since last 
> summer.  Anybody know what the deal is?  Are they still active?

The author has been hired by TurboLinux.

  --Chmouel

[Cooker] Does anyone know what's going on with Zenguin?

[Clifford Yapp]

Since Linux Mandrake has so many user friendly tools, it seems to me like it 
might be a good idea to integrate the Zenguin installer too.  I have been 
checking their website, however, and I have seen no activity since last 
summer.  Anybody know what the deal is?  Are they still active?
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Re: [Cooker] oxygen+air bug report

[Pixel]

"Kirill Krasnikov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I think than nobody mentioned a serious bug concerning Mylex DAC 960 drivers,
> OXYGEN and AIR do not install them, so installation with my AccelRAID does not
> continue. It finds my RAID controller in PCI device list intalls drivers but
> then "it cannot install media where to install" it fails to find my HDDs. There
> where no problems of such kind with Red HAT 6.x and Mandrake 6.X

what is the problem? you can get more info switching to console 4 and 7

is it one of:

0x1069  0x0001  "DAC960""Mylex Corporation|DAC960P"
0x1069  0x0002  "DAC960""Mylex Corporation|DAC960PD"
0x1069  0x0010  "DAC960""Mylex Corporation|DAC960PX"
0x1069  0xba55  "DAC960""Mylex Corporation|DAC1164P"

??

[Cooker] oxygen+air bug report

[Kirill Krasnikov]

I think than nobody mentioned a serious bug 
concerning Mylex DAC 960 drivers,
OXYGEN and AIR do not install them, so installation 
with my AccelRAID does not continue.
It finds my RAID controller in PCI device list 
intalls drivers but then "it cannot install media where to install"
it fails to find my HDDs. There where no problems 
of such kind with Red HAT 6.x and Mandrake 6.X
 
 

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[jean-Francois]

unsubscribe ,

please,
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Re: [Cooker] where is ttindex?

[Pablo Saratxaga]

Kaixo!

On Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 06:47:25PM +0100, Pixel wrote:

> > Once I get ttindex (an executable) And I now have it.
> 
> sorry, no kidding, ttindex was mailed only to Stefan for building the
> fonts-ttf-big5 package so i don't think you should care about it :)

ttindex is part of VFlib2, I'm surprized it seems not to be on VFlib3 anymore.
VFlib is a "virtual fotn library"; and it is used for some specific patches
to ghostscript to add japanese (and maybe other asian languages) TTF support
to it. So I include those indexes made with ttindex to the CJK fonts; as
that may be useful for people using them.

I hope the pango project (successor of gscript) of Gnome will definitively
solve all those ugly problems with fonts and languages and printing. But there
is still a lot of road to be done before the goal is reached. 

-- 
Ki ça vos våye bén,
Pablo Saratxaga

http://www.ping.be/~pin19314/   PGP Key available, key ID: 0x8F0E4975

Re: [Cooker] Changelog list?

[Pixel]

Hakan Tandogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   Hi,
> 
>   Quick question: Is the changelog list down or are there simply no new
> RPMs for cooker / contrib / crypto?

well a bit both. should come back tomorrow...

[Cooker] unsubscribe

[Lorraine & Gene Morrison]

please get me off this list.  i don't want to me on this 
list.  i  am sick of all the e-mails i am getting.  have 
unsubsribed already and i am still getting e-mail.  

[Cooker] unsubscribe cooker

[Edgar Guerrero - Proyecto de Grado Sistemas]

please unsbscribe my email on the list.

thanks,

[Cooker] Please unsbscribe me from the list

[Edgar Guerrero - Proyecto de Grado Sistemas]

Unsbscribe me please
 

[Cooker] Changelog list?

[Hakan Tandogan]

Hi,

Quick question: Is the changelog list down or are there simply no new
RPMs for cooker / contrib / crypto?


Curiously,
Hakan


-- 
Hakan Tandogan   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature"

Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken

[Deven Phillips]

Gael,

Now it has the TCL/TK printtool, but before it was the
PrinterDrake proggy. I installed the printtool from Mandrake 6.1 with a
--force --nodeps. I am not currently at my machine, so I cannot load the
rpm to see.

Deven

Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken

[Gael Duval]

What does say:

/usr/bin/printtool ?

G.

Deven Phillips wrote:
> 
> Gael,
> 
> That package from the Mandrake 7.0 distro actually installs the
> PrinterDrake tool, and not the RH printtool (The TCL/TK one). This is the
> way I noticed it at least.
> 
> Deven Phillips
> 
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Gael Duval wrote:
> 
> > Deven Phillips wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have been tracking the Mandrake Air betas, and I noticed
> > > recently that you removed the RH Printtool program.
> >
> > It's not been removed:
> >
> > -r--r--r--1 540  517 50464 jan 12 01:53
> > printtool-3.43-2mdk.noarch.rpm
> >
> > Just install it from the distrib and type: printtool.
> >
> >   G.
> >
> > >The Mandrake
> > > PrinterDrake does not work for configuring my HP DeskJet 882C (Using the
> > > DeskJet 500/600C filter). It has always worked using the RH printtool, so
> > > why doesn't printerdrake do it right??? I had to install the printtool RPM
> > > from my MDK6.1 CD. This actually worked. You should look into this
> > > problem. I am available for questions or remote access to my box. If you
> > > like, I can even open up for remote X sessions. Please contact me for
> > > further information.
> > >
> > > Deven Phillips,
> > > Cytronix Computer Services, Inc.
> >
> > --
> > < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> > < +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 >
> >

--
< Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
< +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 >

Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken

[Deven Phillips]

Gael,

That package from the Mandrake 7.0 distro actually installs the
PrinterDrake tool, and not the RH printtool (The TCL/TK one). This is the
way I noticed it at least.

Deven Phillips

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Gael Duval wrote:

> Deven Phillips wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have been tracking the Mandrake Air betas, and I noticed
> > recently that you removed the RH Printtool program. 
> 
> It's not been removed:
> 
> -r--r--r--1 540  517 50464 jan 12 01:53
> printtool-3.43-2mdk.noarch.rpm
> 
> Just install it from the distrib and type: printtool.
> 
>   G.
> 
> >The Mandrake
> > PrinterDrake does not work for configuring my HP DeskJet 882C (Using the
> > DeskJet 500/600C filter). It has always worked using the RH printtool, so
> > why doesn't printerdrake do it right??? I had to install the printtool RPM
> > from my MDK6.1 CD. This actually worked. You should look into this
> > problem. I am available for questions or remote access to my box. If you
> > like, I can even open up for remote X sessions. Please contact me for
> > further information.
> > 
> > Deven Phillips,
> > Cytronix Computer Services, Inc.
> 
> --
> < Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> < +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 >
> 

Re: [Cooker] Iso

[Axalon Bloodstone]

It's and iso you can burn it on anything..

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000, Mike Perry wrote:

> 
> Hi..Just a quicky here..
> 
> If I download the iso and then burn it on a Windoze98 machine
> what happens to the case sensitive filenames etc, ie Foo or fOo which 
> windoze98 thinks are the same.
> Michael Perry.
> R&D. Dep. Netafim Magal.
> <<<>>>
> 
> 

-- 
MandrakeSoft  http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
--Axalon

[Cooker] Iso

[Mike Perry]

Hi..Just a quicky here..

If I download the iso and then burn it on a Windoze98 machine
what happens to the case sensitive filenames etc, ie Foo or fOo which 
windoze98 thinks are the same.
Michael Perry.
R&D. Dep. Netafim Magal.
<<<>>>

Re: [Cooker] Suggested add-ons

[Gael Duval]

Craig Foster wrote:
> 
> Just a couple of requests...
> 
> 1) SSH added and enabled by default (not Telnet). How would US export
> restrictions affect this.

not possible: 

1/ it would break the US (and other country) export restrictions
2/ AFAIK it uses the RSA algorithm which is patented until the end of
this year

G.
--
< Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
< +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 >

Re: [Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken

[Gael Duval]

Deven Phillips wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have been tracking the Mandrake Air betas, and I noticed
> recently that you removed the RH Printtool program. 

It's not been removed:

-r--r--r--1 540  517 50464 jan 12 01:53
printtool-3.43-2mdk.noarch.rpm

Just install it from the distrib and type: printtool.

G.

>The Mandrake
> PrinterDrake does not work for configuring my HP DeskJet 882C (Using the
> DeskJet 500/600C filter). It has always worked using the RH printtool, so
> why doesn't printerdrake do it right??? I had to install the printtool RPM
> from my MDK6.1 CD. This actually worked. You should look into this
> problem. I am available for questions or remote access to my box. If you
> like, I can even open up for remote X sessions. Please contact me for
> further information.
> 
> Deven Phillips,
> Cytronix Computer Services, Inc.

--
< Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
< +33-661 957 028 FAX: +1-435 304 1806 >

[Cooker] install bugs still in Air

[Simon Oosthoek]

Hi all,

I'm not sure why, but somehow my bugreport on Oxygene-1 was ignored, so all 
the bugs I reported earlier are still in the graphical installation program.

Here's the list:

* when there is a problem detecting a PCI device, it keeps asking to try 
and find PCI devices. This continues after each step in the installation 
(very annoying!) (In my case it is an unsupported SCSI card from advance 
peripherals)

* package selection is confusing (I can't see whether a package is selected 
or unselected or mandatory), even though the information about each package 
is a lot better than with mdk 6.1.
An improvement would be to show clearly when a package is selected and when 
not. (by showing a + or - sign or something. Dselect wasn't so bad with 
regard to this...)

* When I downloaded the cryptographic packages, I got no feedback at all 
about the download times and whether something failed or not. (It didn't 
take long, so I didn't get worried, but I can imagine one would with a 
slower connection...)

* In general, I miss a clear help-system about the installation process 
itself. It would help so much if the choices on the screen and the steps 
taken would be documented and commented upon during the install.
One thing I've always thought lacking in all ditribution installs is the 
relationship between what and how you install and how you can use it later.

Obviously, this should not interfere with the installation (so make it a 
"What is this?" function under the right mousebutton or something)

Another thing, that I've noticed while installing Oxygene-II to a laptop 
was that the PCMCIA network settings are now in a different place. 
(ifcfg-eth0 instead of /etc/pcmcia/network.opts). These settings aren't 
copied, so they have to be configured manually. Obviously, this is a 
general issue in all Linux distros, PCMCIA isn't integrated as PCI, so 
configuration is always clumsy. However, it would have been nice if the old 
configuration would be detected and copied to the new.

Cheers

Simon.

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
by day: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
icq: 7542948  web: http://margo.student.utwente.nl/simon/

Re: [Cooker] Suggested add-ons

[Craig Foster]

Just a couple of requests...

1) SSH added and enabled by default (not Telnet). How would US export
restrictions affect this.
2) ISDN(Hisax) and ISDN4Linux versions matched and module-enabled (It took
about two days before a fellow LinuxGuru said in a rather passe fashion "Oh
yeah, you can load the module, but the hook in the kernel is not enabled.."
He ducked less than a second after he'd realised how much time I'd spent on
it... :-(
3) Webmin - it runs rings around Linuxconf, although I don't know what the
deal is now that Caldera is bundling it :-)

These are just the things that I add to my systems after building them. The
ISDN is for all those newbies out there.


Thanks & regards,

Craig Foster

- Original Message -
From: "Sam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Suggested add-ons


> *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
> I'm not to sure if it's StarOffice. I downloaded IBM's 1.1.8 JDK/JRE and
> it worked fine. Here's the twist (I think). When you install SUSE Linux,
> one of the dependencies is having what they call their "JRE old" file
> for SO.
>
> I think the problem is that SO, having been developed by a company
> other than Sun, was not compliant with the 1.2 release.
>
> The most compliant version of a JRE to install would be a 1.1.7
> or 1.1.8 release (from what I've seen).
>
> > > 4) Last, and this is important because of all of the complaints on the
> > > newbie list, you REALLY need to include a Java Runtime environment.
Not
> > > doing this is basically inexcuseable considering the use of java
> > > applets on the web and the fact that staroffice needs it for full
> > > functionality.
> > >
> > > Sam
> >
> > U
> >
> > The JRE or RT type stuff, when installed according to the StarOffice
manual
> > and linked in in all the scripts and by all the processes--STILL does
not
> > work.  Sun needs to do something creative with SO to prevent
embarassment.
> >
> > Civileme
>
>

[Cooker] Printer configuration program is broken

[Deven Phillips]

Hi,

I have been tracking the Mandrake Air betas, and I noticed
recently that you removed the RH Printtool program. The Mandrake
PrinterDrake does not work for configuring my HP DeskJet 882C (Using the
DeskJet 500/600C filter). It has always worked using the RH printtool, so
why doesn't printerdrake do it right??? I had to install the printtool RPM
from my MDK6.1 CD. This actually worked. You should look into this
problem. I am available for questions or remote access to my box. If you
like, I can even open up for remote X sessions. Please contact me for
further information.

Deven Phillips,
Cytronix Computer Services, Inc.

Re: [Cooker] where is ttindex?

[Andrew Lee]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2000, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:

> In which package is ttindex included? I can't find it on both
> of my systems (oxygen-2 and a half converted RH60).
In the .spec file:
# ttindex is provided by VFlib package; the index files it produces can
# then be used by a ghostscript with VFlib support

You can find VFlib SRPM in turbolinux ftp site.

But I don`t know howto use VFlib, I made new chinese fonts rpm with ttfm,
the new rpm is not need VFlib.

You can download here:
ftp://mdk.tmtc.edu.tw/pub/CLE/SRPM/SRPMS/
ttfm-0.9-7mdkCLE.src.rpm
ttf-arphic_bkai-2.11-1.src.rpm
ttf-arphic_bming-2.11-1.src.rpm
ttf-arphic_gkai-2.11-1.src.rpm
ttf-arphic_gming-2.11-1.src.rpm

Chinese GNU/Linux Extension(CLE) Project : http://cle.linux.org.tw/CLE/
Development Site for CLE on Mandrake : ftp://mdk.tmtc.edu.tw/pub/CLE/
Developer -- Andrew Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Cooker] Cable sucess- very fast on linux

[lamoureux]

yes they do
use ISOmandrake
-Message d'origine-
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date : dimanche 16 janvier 2000 06:11
Objet : Re: [Cooker] Cable sucess- very fast on linux


>do the hp cdrw work with linux?
>-funguyom

Réponse : Re: [Cooker] Shutdown...

[elipse]

I didn'r get the message...
even tho I answerd a few props for some how had difficultyes what's your's?
PL

-- Message d'origine --
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date : 16/01/2000-08h52

WH Bouterse wrote:

> By the way at least several people had the same problem,
> in earlier releases of 7.0b
> 
> Try the archive list for Cooker
> tracked down through the linux-mandrake homepage.
> 
> William Bouterse

It's because of msec I believe.. may have been the SysVinit package too.
find is searching for modified files which could indicate files with
a trojan in them... personally i hate it, which is why i do custom...

-- 
Sincerely,

David Walluck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Réponse : Re(2): [Cooker] Shutdown...

[elipse]

hy.
you'r using obviously
Fdruid in you'r set up.
try using Fdisk directly.
once you'r on fdisk  partitioning
create first partition  as following: 1rst partition  "swap" wich correspponds to 82
then create the extended partition "e" instead of "p"(primary)
partion2
then create 3rd partition with primary "p"
once it's all done check by pressing Pkey.
you shoul find 3 partion as following
part1;82 swap
part2.e   extended
part3   ..83 linux native

once done  press w
once your in the new window
press on linux native and give it a name by using   /in a 3 partition you don't 
have to give a name after : /
if you have any other prob send me back an email I send you a precise doc of different 
steps
PL
-- Message d'origine --
De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date : 16/01/2000-08h56

HI,
I'm new to linux and I'm trying to install it from the cd
,and each time when get this screen I get the following
error so please can you help?


WHAT PARTITION AND DIRECTORY ON THAT PARTITION HOLD THE
MANDRAKE/RPMS and MANDRAKE/base directory

Device  size(k)
/dev/hda1   2096451
/dev/hda5   2112516


Directory holding linux mandrake 
/- 


I get this error
mount failed:Driver or recourse busy


thank you

Re: [Cooker] Air 7.0 ISO whats wrong??

[ivar]

3cow now wrote:

> Hello
>
> I dloaded the AIR release again, and burned another cd-image. It got to the
> point where it says "Mounting 2nd Ramdrive..."
> Then it sits there for a long time, and then goes back to "Initializing
> CD-ROM".. Has anyone else been having problems with the new 7.0 AIR release?
>
> - Gene
> __
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Yes!

I dont know whats wrong, but I had the same problem. cdrom.img and txtboot.img
didn't work,
finally I copied the thing to another computer and used ftp install..
Maybe it has to something to do with CDROM timeouts or something...

Ivar