Re: [CTRL] Ankle Deep in the Big Muddy

1999-09-23 Thread Dave

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Contragate revisited..   CIA/cocaine connections

see:
http://www.copvcia.com
http://madcowprod.com/
 http://www.dcia.com/do-drugs.html
http://www.dcia.com/

http://www.onelist.com/messages/cia-drugs

Get involved !  Learn how to start a lawsuit in YOUR town against the
Cocaine Importing Agency of America.  Los Angeles and Oakland are suing !
http://www.copvcia.com/Oakland.htm
How to:
http://www.copvcia.com/classaction1.htm

Stop the war on PEOPLE, decriminalize drugs and take away the profit center
for the covert criminals behind the MAJOR drug trafficking.


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
Recently, the United States military lost a plane in the skies over
Colombia.  According to Pentagon sources, this plane was not shot down, nor
was it on any kind of mission that involved the civil war in Colombia.
These sources claim, with the backing of General McCafferty--U.S. drug
"czar", that the mission was solely related to drug production and the
so-called war on that production.  In almost the same breath, however,
McCafferty called for a billion dollars (yes $1,000,000,000) in military
aid to fight the drug war and the Marxist revolutionaries (FARC -Fuerzas
Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia and ELN-Ejercito de Liberacion
Nacional)in the region.  Now, I don't know about you, but one can't have it
both ways: either the United States is fighting against the leftist forces
in the region or they are not.  My reading of the situation goes with the
former.  That is, they are and intend to do so until these forces are
defeated.  Of course, the likelihood of such a defeat is remote, even
should full scale U. S. military involvement eventually occur.
This is not out of the question.  Indeed, the United States let it be
known during the week of July 26, 1999, that it has "a couple hundred"
troops in Colombia training elite battalions whose job will be to sever the
ties between the coca and opium farmers and the revolutionary forces.  Of
course, as any one with a basic knowledge of prior Pentagon training
missions in other parts of the world is aware, these trainers often
participate in military missions and may even denote an even greater U.S.
involvement in the future.
In order to understand what exactly the Pentagon means in describing these
battalions' mission, it is essential to examine the relationship between
the peasant coca and opium farmers and the revolutionary organizations.  To
understand this relationship, it is first necessary to understand the role
drug production plays in the economy of Colombia. The peasants have two
basic choices in today's Colombia--to go to the big cities and become
beggars and prostitutes or farm the land. If they choose the latter, they
till the land and plant crops such as corn or plantains. Since these areas
were never developed, there are no transportation routes. Only by using the
rivers and crossing hundreds of miles overland can the crop reach Bogota or
other markets. By the time it gets there, the crop is unsaleable or has
become so costly that the profit is practically lost. There is only one
alternative open to the peasant farmer  who wishes to subsist : growing
coca leaves and, more recently, opium plants. Transportation costs for
these crops is provided by the drug lords, who move incredible amounts of
these products with the consent of high placed government leaders and the
armed protection of the Colombian military and paramilitary forces funded
by large landowners and drug lords.
The FARC and ELN guerrilla forces operate in the coca and opium
growing regions.  Indeed, they literally administer these regions.  Like
various parts of southern Vietnam that were in the control of the NLF, the
residents of the region consider the revolutionary forces as their
government and support their administration.  In order to pay the cost of
running schools, health care centers, police forces, and other such
infrastructural apparatus, the FARC and ELN forces tax the drug trafficking
operations--farmers and those involved in the product's transportation and
refinement.  Although it is their preference not to do support the
dependency of the farming population on drug production, the reality is
that this is where the money is in rural Colombia.
This is where the United States comes in, once again.  Most of these drugs
are shipped to the streets of our country.  This does not happen without
the complicity of government and law enforcement officials.  In some cases,
this means turning the other way when a shipment from a trafficker who has
paid off the right people comes through.  In other cases, the complicity is
much more involved.  Even those of us with rather short memories can
remember the U.S. involvement in the drugs-for-guns operation run by Ollie
North and his cohorts that supplied the contra forces fighting the
Nicaraguan government in the 1980s.

[CTRL] FW: SOA not dead!!

1999-09-23 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart



AP ==   Thursday September 23 6:24 AM ET

School of the Americas Funds Renewed

   Full Coverage
 International Human Rights

   By DAVID PACE Associated Press Writer

   WASHINGTON (AP) - House and Senate negotiators have restored funding
   for the School of the Americas, the controversial Army school in
   Georgia that the House moved last summer to shut down.

   Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga., said House conferees on the fiscal 2000
   foreign operations spending bill agreed Wednesday to accept the
   Senate's position that provided $2 million in the State Department
   budget to pay the expenses of Latin American soldiers who attend the
   school at Fort Benning.

   The vote won't become final until the conference on the entire bill is
   concluded, but Kingston, one of the House conferees, said the section
   covering funding for the school has been closed and cannot be
   reopened.

   ``The School of the Americas is in there,'' he said. ``It's survived
   another year.''

   The House voted 230-197 last summer to eliminate the $2 million in
   training funds. It marked the first time in five House votes since
   1993 that the lawmakers have gone on record in opposition to the
   school.

   The school has been the target of a decade-long campaign by religious
   activists upset that some of its graduates were linked to the 1989
   murders of six Jesuit priests and two women in El Salvador.

   Father Roy Bourgeois, the Maryknoll priest who has spearheaded the
   campaign against the school, said the conference committee action
   Wednesday won't slow the campaign.

   ``We are not going away,'' he said. ``We're going to keep coming back
   to Washington and to the main gate of Fort Benning in greater and
   greater numbers every year until that school is shut down.''

   The House conferees voted 8-7 to recede to the Senate position.

   Kingston said the House agreed to restore the funding because members
   of the foreign operations spending panel did not want to lose
   jurisdiction over the school, which also receives money from the
   Defense Department budget.

   Kingston said House conferees felt that the Pentagon would find a way
   to continue operating the school, even if the $2 million in training
   funds had been eliminated.

   The $2 million represents about half the school's annual budget. The
   rest comes out of the Pentagon budget, which also pays the salaries of
   the military officers who serve as instructors. Congressional
   opponents of the school estimate it costs the taxpayers $20 million a
   year.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Fwd: [InTheShadows] Protesters turn tables on city's securitycameras]

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> youll like this
>
>   
>
> Subject: [InTheShadows] Protesters turn tables on city's security cameras
> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:57:48 -0600
> From: "Hilary A. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> From: "Hilary A. Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> From: "Dan S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >From the Boston Globe,
> http://www.boston.com/dailynews/266/region/Protesters_turn_tables_on_city:.s
>
> html
> -
> Protesters turn tables on city's security cameras
> By Tom Hays, Associated Press, 09/23/99 13:41
> NEW YORK (AP) Big Brother, whether he likes or not, is watching Bill Brown.
>
> In the subway, parks and dark corners where government and businesses point
> security cameras around Manhattan, Brown and his cohorts pop up like
> annoying Little Brothers with props: crudely drawn placards cryptically
> quoting Orwell ''We will meet in a place where there is no darkness'' and a
> boom box sounding mock emergency broadcasts.
>
> ''America is now under martial law,'' one broadcast warns. ''Shut up. Be
> happy. Obey all orders. Relax. Everything is done for you.''
>
> Part performance art, part political protest, Brown's theatrics are the
> work
> of what he calls the Surveillance Camera Players.
>
> SCP is composed of about two dozen self-described anarchists. According to
> their manifesto, members view hidden cameras as ''a tool of social control.
> ... The group intends to explode the myth that only those who are doing
> something wrong fear surveillance cameras.''
>
> Brown, 40, is a media-friendly, chain-smoking subversive with a sense of
> humor, a former literature professor who now gets by as a legal proofreader
> on a graveyard shift. He views Mayor Rudolph Giuliani as a ''mean bastard''
> who has turned City Hall into his own Ministry of Love, manipulating the
> masses under the banner of ''public safety.''
>
> The native New Yorker founded SCP in 1996 in response to the proliferation
> of video surveillance around the city.
>
> ''It's hard not to view it all as a conspiracy,'' he said.
>
> SCP's early guerrilla productions mainly performed in subways until broken
> up by police included rapid-fire, dumbed-down versions of ''1984,''
> ''Waiting for Godot'' and ''One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.'' Since then,
> the group has been a regular feature on an anarchist Website
> www.panix.com/~notbored gotten international media coverage and started
> writing its own plays.
>
> ''It began as a few people fooling around,'' Brown said. ''Now, we're a
> serious group.''
>
> The SCP has had no trouble being watched: A 1998 survey by the New York
> Civil Liberties Union found more than 2,300 surveillance cameras trained on
> public spaces in Manhattan. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey
> alone reportedly operates more than 1,200 cameras throughout airports,
> bridges, tunnels and terminals, most monitored from a control room in the
> World Trade Center.
>
> The group's latest stage is popular Washington Square Park, a notorious
> drug-dealing spot in the heart of Greenwich Village where police have
> installed high-tech, remote-control cameras designed to look like ordinary
> street lamps. Zoom lenses feed monitors watched by police officers in a
> mobile command center at the park's south end.
>
> On a recent Saturday, the officers were treated to the premiere of
> ''Headline News.'' The performance, a send-up of a newscast, included Brown
> slowly banging a drum while other players silently flashed placards showing
> a NATO bomb and titled ''World News,'' an assault rifle ''National News''
> and a horned-and-fanged Giuliani ''Local News.''
>
> Passersby were handed fliers warning, ''You are being watched. ... Not only
> can you and your movements be tracked wherever you are in this open-air
> prison, but every one of your facial expressions is visible too.''
>
> The mayor and police officials deny any sinister motives. They have
> defended
> the cameras' use in housing projects and other areas, touting them as an
> effective and popular crime-fighting tool. Besides, Police Commissioner
> Howard Safir has argued, ''You have no right to privacy in a public
> place.''
>
> In an interview, Brown disagreed. Rampant video surveillance, he argued,
> infringes on a right New Yorkers hold dear: anonymity.
>
> ''We're in a place where people want to blend in,'' he said. ''It runs
> against the very texture of New York. ... The society I would like is where
> people police themselves, not where people police us by increasingly
> impersonal means.''
>
> Asked about a magazine article describing him as ''mildly paranoid,'' Brown
> set the record straight.
>
> ''I'm VERY paranoid,'' he said.
>
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[CTRL] FW: Ankle Deep in the Big Muddy

1999-09-23 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
From:  Ron Jacobs
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:35 AM
Subject: Ankle Deep in the Big Muddy


Recently, the United States military lost a plane in the skies over
Colombia.  According to Pentagon sources, this plane was not shot down, nor
was it on any kind of mission that involved the civil war in Colombia.
These sources claim, with the backing of General McCafferty--U.S. drug
"czar", that the mission was solely related to drug production and the
so-called war on that production.  In almost the same breath, however,
McCafferty called for a billion dollars (yes $1,000,000,000) in military
aid to fight the drug war and the Marxist revolutionaries (FARC -Fuerzas
Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia and ELN-Ejercito de Liberacion
Nacional)in the region.  Now, I don't know about you, but one can't have it
both ways: either the United States is fighting against the leftist forces
in the region or they are not.  My reading of the situation goes with the
former.  That is, they are and intend to do so until these forces are
defeated.  Of course, the likelihood of such a defeat is remote, even
should full scale U. S. military involvement eventually occur.
This is not out of the question.  Indeed, the United States let it be
known during the week of July 26, 1999, that it has "a couple hundred"
troops in Colombia training elite battalions whose job will be to sever the
ties between the coca and opium farmers and the revolutionary forces.  Of
course, as any one with a basic knowledge of prior Pentagon training
missions in other parts of the world is aware, these trainers often
participate in military missions and may even denote an even greater U.S.
involvement in the future.
In order to understand what exactly the Pentagon means in describing these
battalions' mission, it is essential to examine the relationship between
the peasant coca and opium farmers and the revolutionary organizations.  To
understand this relationship, it is first necessary to understand the role
drug production plays in the economy of Colombia. The peasants have two
basic choices in today's Colombia--to go to the big cities and become
beggars and prostitutes or farm the land. If they choose the latter, they
till the land and plant crops such as corn or plantains. Since these areas
were never developed, there are no transportation routes. Only by using the
rivers and crossing hundreds of miles overland can the crop reach Bogota or
other markets. By the time it gets there, the crop is unsaleable or has
become so costly that the profit is practically lost. There is only one
alternative open to the peasant farmer  who wishes to subsist : growing
coca leaves and, more recently, opium plants. Transportation costs for
these crops is provided by the drug lords, who move incredible amounts of
these products with the consent of high placed government leaders and the
armed protection of the Colombian military and paramilitary forces funded
by large landowners and drug lords.
The FARC and ELN guerrilla forces operate in the coca and opium
growing regions.  Indeed, they literally administer these regions.  Like
various parts of southern Vietnam that were in the control of the NLF, the
residents of the region consider the revolutionary forces as their
government and support their administration.  In order to pay the cost of
running schools, health care centers, police forces, and other such
infrastructural apparatus, the FARC and ELN forces tax the drug trafficking
operations--farmers and those involved in the product's transportation and
refinement.  Although it is their preference not to do support the
dependency of the farming population on drug production, the reality is
that this is where the money is in rural Colombia.
This is where the United States comes in, once again.  Most of these drugs
are shipped to the streets of our country.  This does not happen without
the complicity of government and law enforcement officials.  In some cases,
this means turning the other way when a shipment from a trafficker who has
paid off the right people comes through.  In other cases, the complicity is
much more involved.  Even those of us with rather short memories can
remember the U.S. involvement in the drugs-for-guns operation run by Ollie
North and his cohorts that supplied the contra forces fighting the
Nicaraguan government in the 1980s.  This operation (not the first of its
kind, by the way--see Alfred McCoy's 1991 book The Politics of Heroin: CIA
Complicity in the Global Trade) can be considered a model of how U. S.
government agencies cynically manipulate modern society's desire for
pharmaceutically induced escape to finance their dirty operations in the
service of various corporate interests.
Speaking of corporate interests, if we follow the trail this leads us down
we may discover t

[CTRL] MONO-ATOMIC GOLD: A SECRET OF SHAPESHIFTING

1999-09-23 Thread earthman

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David Icke just posted a new article on the website.

MONO-ATOMIC GOLD: A SECRET OF SHAPESHIFTING AND THE
REPTILIAN CONTROL?

He is seeking information from anyone who might give
him more research data on this subject.

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/articles/92399icke.html

WebTV Page
http://www.davidicke.com/icke/webtv/articles/w92399icke.html

David Icke is scheduled for THREE big radio broadcasts in
mid-October!  All will be internet broadcast as well.

  Jeff Rense Sightings
The Rusty Humphries Show
  The Chuck Morse Show

Check the calendar for times and dates:
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Re: [CTRL] Spooky Boys With Spooky Toys

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

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If Jokesters like those mentioned here could get their noses
out of their belly buttons at ALL then they could safely
make war on the Universe forever and evergood place for
'em I say.  And saints be praised and all that they would be
NEEDED out there in the blind hostility of the perpetual
environment, versus this little fragile cocoon we are used
to.  Actually, the way these guys think, with their noses in
their belly buttons the whole time, I think we need a lot
better warrior than Them out there

David Crockett Williams wrote:
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> dissemination of disinformation," collectively known as the "Aviary." >>
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[CTRL] [Fwd: [FN] Adages:sent by a friend]

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

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Ish wrote:
>
> 1) Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That
> way, when you criticize him, you are a mile away from him and you have his
> shoes.
>
> 2) A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train
> stops. On my desk I have a workstation
>
> 3) I believe five out of four people have trouble with fractions.
>
> 4) If quitters never win, and winners never quit, what fool came up with
> "Quit while you're ahead"?
>
> 5) Do Lipton Tea employees take coffee breaks?
>
> 6) What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men?
>
> 7) I was thinking that women should put pictures of missing husbands on beer
> cans.
>
> 8) I have found at my age, going braless pulls all the wrinkles out of my
> face.
>
> 9) I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a whole lot more as
> they get older. Then it dawned on me they were cramming for their finals.
>
> 10) Employment application blanks always ask who is to be notified in case of
> emergency.  I think you should write "A very good doctor".

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Re: [CTRL] Our Presidential Choices

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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George Dubya- Elitist.


Gore-  Follows in Clintons camp as a China led NWO supporter..


Buchanan-  Fascism of the Nationalist variety...

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Do you need to be led?  I don't.  Does anyone here not know how to treat
their neighbor as they wish to be treated?  Does anyone here not know how to
trade fairly?  If we can do this, then to HELL with leaders.


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[CTRL] Deceptive IRS Code Words

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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http://www.deoxy.org/fz/deception.htm

Deceptive IRS Code Words

"Income," "Person," "Taxpayer," "Shall," and "Must."

Learn to Decipher the Internal Revenue Code and IRS Publications
The Internal Revenue Code (IRC) is a masterpiece of deception designed to
mislead Citizens into believing that individuals are subject to federal
income tax. The Code was written by attorneys for the Internal Revenue
Service (IRS), and contains a series of directory statutes using the word
"shall", with provisions that are requirements for corporations, but not for
individuals. Even members of Congress are generally unaware of the deceptive
legal meanings of certain terms that are consistently used in the IRC. These
terms have legal definitions for use in the IRC that are very different from
the general understanding of the meaning of the words.

Lack of knowledge of these legal definitions causes misunderstanding by
uninformed Citizens who are confused as to the correct interpretation of
both the IRC and the true meaning of the tricky wording in IRS instructional
publications and news articles. However, when you understand the legal
definitions of these terms, the deception is easily recognized and the
limited application of the Code becomes clear. This understanding will help
you to see that filing income tax forms and paying income taxes must be
voluntary acts for most Americans because the United States Constitution
forbids the federal government to impose any tax directly upon individuals.

INCOME
-

Most people mistakenly believe all moneys they receive, such as wages,
salaries, and tips, are "income". However, for years, IRS publication #525,
entitled "Taxable and Nontaxable Income", has acknowledged that wages and
salaries are not "income". Publication #525 states: "Wages and salaries are
the main source of income for most people." In the court decision of Graves
vs People of the State of New York ex rel O'Keefe, 59 S.Ct. 595 (1939), the
United States Supreme Court ruled that a source of income is not income, and
the source is not subject to income tax. In that decision, the Court stated:
"A tax on income is not economically or legally a tax on its source."
However, wages, salaries, commissions, and tips (sources) are considered to
be "income" for an individual when he lists them as "income" on an IRS tax
return form. When he signs the tax form under penalty of perjury, he has
made a voluntary oath that his wages, salary, commissions, and tips listed
on the return are "income" and that he is subject to the tax.

In the still standing decision of Brushaber vs Union Pacific Railroad
Company, 240 U.S. 1, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the federal
income tax is an excise tax under the Sixteenth Amendment (the income tax
amendment). The Court explained that the income tax cannot be imposed as a
direct tax (a tax on individuals or on property) because the United States
Constitution still requires that all direct taxes must be apportioned among
the States. "Apportioned" means that a direct tax is laid upon the State
governments in proportion to each State's population. The Court ruled that
income tax can be constitutional only as an indirect (excise) tax -- that
is, a tax on profits earned by corporations or privileges granted by
government. In other words, said the Supreme Court, in order for there to be
"income", there must be profits or gains received in the exercise of a
privilege granted by government. As an example, a lawyer is granted the
government privilege of being an officer of the government court when he
represents clients in litigation.

At law, labor is property. In fact, the Supreme Court has identified labor
as man's most precious property. Therefore, the exchange of one's labor for
wages or salary (which are also property) is considered by law to be an
exchange of properties of equal value in which there is no gain or profit.
Such a property exchange of equal value cannot be taxed because there is no
profit or gain. Also, one who works in an ordinary occupation is not a
recipient of any privilege granted by government, because he is merely
exercising his constitutionally guaranteed right to work and earn an living.
Courts have repeatedly ruled that no tax may be placed upon the exercise of
rights. Their reasoning was sensible. If the exercise of rights could be
taxed, government could destroy them by excessive rates of taxation.

Items that the law includes in "income" are described in Code sections
listed under the title of "Items Specifically Included in Gross Income",
which covers Sections 71 through 86. Nowhere in these sections and nowhere
else in the Code is there any mention of wages, salaries, commissions, or
tips as being "income". For example, to deceive and intimidate waitresses
into declaring their tips to be income is a double fraud. First, tips are
gifts, not wages. According to the IRC, gifts are not subject to income tax.
In fact, even if tips were 

Re: [CTRL] The UN can help save the world

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: Tenorlove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

One thing I've noticed about the population control/reduction
advocates: They never volunteer themselves or their own families for
reduction, only other people's.
..
I am going to guess that your despisal of eco-minded individuals has lead
you to not know many of them first hand.  I have known thousands [yes i did
say thousands] of such people that PRACTICE it.

Let's be clear on the topic; is it population control or population control
advocates?  If ALL of the population control advocates were serial killers,
it would say absolutely nothing about population control's merits as a
philosophy.  This, folks, is called critical thinking.

You aim at the messenger because you find the message disturbing.


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Re: [CTRL] miscellany

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: Kathleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

So, you're still a liberal after seven years of Bill Clinton and
decades of liberal activists making your life miserable from the
bully pulpits of the bureaucratic agencies.
..

Clinton is just a sexed up version of George Bush; he is no liberal.

The policies of the presidency has not changed since Ford.

Take the blinders off.

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[CTRL] Propaganda in a Democratic Society

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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http://www.deoxy.org/huxley1.htm

Propaganda in a Democratic Society
by Aldous Huxley

"The doctrines of Europe," Jefferson wrote, "were that men in numerous
associations cannot be restrained within the limits of order and justice,
except by forces physical and moral wielded over them by authorities
independent of their will. . . . We (the founders of the new American
democracy) believe that man was a rational animal, endowed by nature with
rights, and with an innate sense of justice, and that he could be restrained
from wrong, and protected in right, by moderate powers, confided to persons
of his own choice and held to their duties by dependence on his own will."
To post-Freudian ears, this kind of language seems touchingly quaint and
ingenuous. Human beings are a good deal less rational and innately just than
the optimists of the eighteenth century supposed. On the other hand they are
neither so morally blind nor so hopelessly unreasonable as the pessimists of
the twentienth would have us believe. In spite of the Id and the
Unconscious, in spite of endemic neurosis and the prevalence of low IQ's,
most men and women are probably decent enough and sensible enough to be
trusted with the direction of their own destinies.

Democratic institutions are devices for reconciling social order with
individual freedom and initiative, and for making the immediate power of a
country's rulers subject to the ultimate power of the ruled. The fact that,
in Western Europe and America, these devices have worked, all things
considered, not too badly is proof enough that the eighteenth century
optimists were not entirely wrong. Given a fair chance, I repeat; for the
fair chance is an indispensible prerequisite. No people that passes abruptly
from a state of subservience under the rule of a despot to the completely
unfamiliar state of political independence can be said to have a fair chance
of being able to govern itself democratically. Liberalism flourishes in an
atmosphere of prosperity and declines as declining prosperity makes it
necessary for the government to intervene ever more frequently and
drastically in the affairs of its subjects. Over-population and
over-organization are two conditions which ... deprive a society of a fair
chance of making democratic institutions work effectively. We see, then,
that there are certain historical, economic, demographic and technological
conditions which make it very hard for Jefferson's rational animals, endowed
by nature with inalienable rights and an innate sense of justice, to
exercise their reason, claim their rights and act justly within a
democratically organized society. We in the West have been supremely
fortunate in having been given a fair chance of making the great experiment
in self-government.

Unfortunately, it now looks as though , owing to recent changes in our
circumstances, this infinitely precious fair chance were being, little by
little, taken away from us. And this, of course, is not the whole story.
These blind impersonal forces are not the only enemies of individual liberty
and democratic institutions. There are also forces of another, less abstract
character, forces that can be deliberately used by power-seeking individuals
whose aim is to establish partial or complete control over their fellows.
Fifty years ago, when I was a boy, it seemed completely self-evident that
the bad old days were over, that torture and massacre, slavery, and the
persecution of heretics, were things of the past. Among people who wore top
hats, traveled in trains, and took a bath every morning such horrors were
simply out of the question. After all, we were living in the twentieth
century. A few years later these people who took daily baths and went to
church in top hats were committing atrocities on a scale undreamed of by the
benighted Africans and Asiatics. In the light of recent history it would be
foolish to suppose that this sort of thing cannot happen again. It can and,
no doubt, it will. But in the immediate future there is some reason to
believe that the punitive measures of 1984 will give place to the
reinforcements and manipulations of Brave New World.

There are two kinds of propaganda - rational propaganda in favor of action
that is consonant with the enlightened self-interest of those who make it
and those to whom it is addressed, and non-rational propaganda that is not
consonant with anybody's enlightened self-interest, but is dictated by, and
appeals to, passion. Were the actions of individuals are concerned there are
motives more exhalted than enlightened self-interest, but where collective
action has to be taken in the fields of politics and economics, enlightened
self-interest is probably the highest of effective motives. If politicians
and their constituents always acted to promote their own or their country's
long-range self-interest, this world would be an earthly paradise. As it is,
they often act against their own interests, merely to gratify

[CTRL] HAARP over Fort Worth

1999-09-23 Thread Nicola Molloy

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http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Keep/4885/


New World (Dis)Order
  The Mineral Wars
  Pulse Weapons?
  HAARP over Fort Worth?

plus extra added bonus
Kent Steadman discovers lake on Mars!

Lots of good links on this site.You can subscribe to Newshawk from here
too.

Nicky


Found on this post:
Hi John

I don't know what your feelings are on $cientology, but I found this
article
quite revealing. What's Travolta really  afraid of here? Gee...ya think
he
knows something? I'd be happy to give you more information I've
discovered
about them...if you're interested. Quite shocking...very revealing. Talk
about mind control...I think these guys made it into an art form.

Be well,

John (Deuce)
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Re: [CTRL] U.S. new policy on ENCRYPTION / U.S. lobbies EU on behalf ...

1999-09-23 Thread TenebrousT

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Could it be that the new policy on encryption is because Clinton is expecting
to get CESA passed and thus would have the ability to get keys and passwords
of "potential" security threats and cyber-criminals?  It seems to me that
this must be the case since he was so adamant about NOT allowing encryption
to be exported because of the risk to "national security" and the threat of
cyber-criminals and drug dealers.

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[CTRL] World's biggest conspiracy theory database

1999-09-23 Thread Edward Britton

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Do you like conspiracy theories? Wanna know all there is to know about the
Illuminati, the CFR, the Holy Grail, JFK assasinations, UFO coverups and
black projects? Well, search no longer. I've just found probably the
largest conspiracy theory database on the planet. And it's HUGE!

Just belly up to the old keyboard, grab a seat, a sandwitch and a
beer--better yet, pack a cooler--and browse on over to
http://www.greatdreams.com/consp.htm Plan to be there a WHILE!

Edward   ><+>
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"Of course, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong." Dennis Miller
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Reality Pump: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/Reality_Pump2
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[CTRL] If an Agent Knocks

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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http://www.cs.oberlin.edu/students/pjaques/etext/ifanagentknocks.html


If an Agent Knocks
Federal Investigators and Your Rights
Center for Constitutional Rights

Background
What is Political Intelligence?

Do I have to talk to the FBI?

Under what laws do the agents operate?

What federal agencies are likely to be interested in a citizen's political
activities and affiliations?

How does the FBI learn about citizens and organizations?
What if I suspect surveillance?

How should I respond to threatening letters or calls?
What rights do I have?

What should I do if police, FBI, or other agents appear with an arrest or
search warrant?

What should I do if agents come to question me?

If I don't cooperate, doesn't it look like I have something to hide?

Are there any circumstances under which it is advisable to cooperate with an
FBI investigation?

How can grand juries make people go to jail?

Is there any way to prevent grand jury witnesses from going to jail?

What can lawyers do?

Errata
Notes

People opposing U.S. policies in Central America, giving sanctuary to
refugees from Guatemala and El Salvador, struggling for Black liberation,
and against nuclear weapons, are today more than ever likely to receive
visits from FBI agents or other federal investigators. Increasingly, agents
are also visiting the familist, friends, and employers of these activists.

This pamphlet is designed to answer the most frequent questions asked by
people and groups experiencing government scrutiny, and to help them develop
practical responses.

What is Political Intelligence?
Political intelligence is information collected by the government about
individuals and groups. Files secure under the Freedom of Information Act
disclose that government officials have long been interested in all forms of
data. Information gathered by government agents ranges from the most
personal data about sexual liaisons and preferences to estimates of the
strength of groups opposing U.S. policies. Over the years, groups and
individuals have developed various ways of limiting the collection of
information and preventing such intelligence gathering from harming their
work.

Do I have to talk to the FBI?
No. The FBI does not have the authority to make anyone answer questions
(other than name and address [see errata]), to permit a search without a
warrant, or to otherwise cooperate with an investigation. Agents are usually
lawyers, and they are always trained as investigators; they have learned the
power of persuasion, the ability to make a person feel scared, guilty, or
impolite for refusing their requests for information. So remember, they have
no legal authority to force people to do anything -- unless they have
obtained an arrest or search warrant. Even when agents do have warrants, you
still don't have to answer their question.

Under what laws do the agents operate?
In 1976, FBI guidelines regulating the investigation of political activities
were issued by Attorney General Edward H. Levi. Criticized by liberals and
conservatives alike, the guidelines were issued in the wake of a
Congressional committee's report of highly questionable activities by the
FBI: monitoring the activities of domestic political groups seeking to
effect change. The report exposed the FBI's counter-intelligence program
(COINTELPRO) under which the agency infiltrated groups, compiled dossiers
on, and directly interfered with individuals engaged in activities protected
by the First Amendment rights to freedom of expression and association.

The FBI COINTELPRO program was initiated in 1956. Its purpose, as described
later by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, was "to expose, disrupt, misdirect,
discredit, or otherwise neutralize activities" of those individuals and
organizations whose ideas or goals he opposed. Tactics included: falsely
labelling individuals as informants; infiltrating groups with persons
instructed to disrupt the group; sending anonymous or forged letters
designed to promote strife between groups; initiating politically motivated
IRS investigations; carrying out burglaries of offices and unlawful
wiretaps; and disseminating to other government agencies and to the media
unlawfully obtained derogatory information on individuals and groups.

In 1983, Attorney General William French Smith issued superseding guidelines
that authorized "domestic security/ terrorism" investigations against
political organizations whenever the FBI had a reasonable belief that these
groups might violate a law. The new guidelines permitted the same intrusive
techniques the FBI used against organized crime.

The Smith guidelines were justified by the Attorney General's observation
that "our citizens are no less threatened by groups which engage in criminal
violence for political... purposes that by those which operate lawlessly for
financial gain." He concluded: "we must ensure that criminal intelligence
resources that have been brought to bear so effectively in organized 

Re: [CTRL] Bush's Military-Industrial Complex

1999-09-23 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/23/99 8:08:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

> WASHINGTON (AP) - Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush is
>  promising to ``redefine war on our terms'' with a defense policy that pumps
>  billions of dollars into the search for new weapons he said would help
>  America keep the peace.
>

Naturally, all those weapons would sure help out the PEACE.  Straight down
the line for Bush Jr.  in the footsteps of Reagan (really Bush Sr if you ask
me) and his dad.  Next he'll be saying that we need to revamp and improve the
intelligence agencies because of all the blunders they've made recently, and
that will mean more money for them too.

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Re: [CTRL] Contact Lost with Mars Probe

1999-09-23 Thread TenebrousT

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I think this is just TOO SWEET.  Does anyone still doubt that there is
something funny going on with Mars and the fact that so many probes and ships
have been lost after they arrived?

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Re: [CTRL] Dole on Kids at School (Microcosm of Adults in Society)

1999-09-23 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/23/99 8:17:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

> Dole Wants School Locker Searches
>
>  By TOM KIRCHOFER
>  .c The Associated Press
>
>  MELROSE, Mass. (AP) - Reminiscing about her student teaching days while
>  addressing harsh concerns of today, Elizabeth Dole said Wednesday that
order
>  must be restored to classrooms - even if it means parent-approved locker
and
>  backpack searches and drug-testing of students.
>

More fascist policy only this time on the kidz.  Do the kids have any rights
or say in this matter?  The justification is the old bugaboo of drugs and
guns.  Well, we got that in the world (so to speak) so why not just have
searches of everyone all the time.  I am no longer surprised by this shit.
All the candidates will be proposing similar shit, twisted this way or that
so as to SEEM different from the others, but the end will be the same, less
freedom, bigger police, etc.

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[CTRL] Wooden Jesus

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

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Wooden Jesus Where are you from?
Korea, or Canada, or maybe Taiwan?
I didn't know it was the holy land...
But I believed from the minute,
The check left my hand.

And I pray.

Can I be saved?  I spent all my money
On a future grave.
Wooden Jesus I'll cut you in,
on twenty percent of my future sins.

Porcelain Mary her majesties pure,
Looking for virgin territory.
Coat hanger halos don't come cheap,
>From Television Shepherds with Living Room Sheep.

And I pray.

Can I be saved?  I spent all my money
on a future grave.
Wooden Jesus I'll cut you in,
On twenty percent of my future sins.

Chris Cornell
Temple of the Dog

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[CTRL] Indonesian Unionists Back East Timor Freedom Struggle (fwd)

1999-09-23 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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Subject: DAMN: 19-SEP-1999: Indonesian Unionists Back East Timor Freedom Struggle

Title: Indonesian Unionists Back East Timor Freedom Struggle
Date: 19-SEP-1999
Author: National Front for Indonesian Labour Struggle: Dita Indah Sari,
Ilham Syah
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The following statement was sent to ACTION IN SOLIDARITY WITH INDONESIA
AND EAST TIMOR - ASIET

The ballot, offered as a way to resolve the 24-year old crisis in East
Timor has been completed.  The results show that the Timorese people
reject the special autonomy offered by the Indonesian government and
have chosen to be a free nation.

The Timorese struggle to be a free nation have gone on for many
centuries against Portuguese colonialism and then against the
militaristic Indonesian government.  They have paid a high price, both
physically and materially to wage that struggle.  The Indonesian
military invasion since 1975 has cost more than 200,000 lives and led to
many human rights abuses including beatings and rapes.  The
international community's response to the military
acts of Indonesia depended on the Cold War interests of each country at
the time.

After the ballot was completed and  a series massacres of
pro-independence forces, UN staff and journalists by pro-integration
militia members (supported by Indonesian military and police) commenced,
the international
community has again taken a position on the issue of East Timor.  In
this case, the international community has condemned the Indonesian
government who are thought of as no longer able to provide security  in
the territory.

Condemnation and international pressure has come from Australia from its
government and through the call for bans on Indonesian products by
Australian trade unions.  In one instance, there was even the incident
of flag burning at a demonstration outside an Indonesian consulate.  The
response to this by several forces was to retaliate and burn the
Australian flag and to invade the Australian Embassy in Indonesia.

These actions show the low level of understanding of the history of the
struggle in East Timor and the shifting of the conflict from the
massacres carried out in East Timor to a conflict between two countries.
In responding
to the situation that has arisen since the ballot in East Timor, the
National Front for Indonesian Labour Struggle (FNBPI) hereby express:

* Our full support for the results of the ballot in East Timor, as a
reflection of the aspirations of the East Timorese to determine their
own fate

* Our condemnation of the anti democratic acts committed by the
pro-autonomy  forces of TNI and POLRI (Indonesian police)

* Our condemnation of all acts of murder and destruction by TNI and
POLRI committed against the innocent civilians of East Timor

* Our condemnation of all acts of violence by TNI and POLRI which have
driven out the Timorese from their own country

The FNPBI therefore demand:

* Immediate withdrawal of TNI and POLRI from East Timor

* Disbanding of militias which are supported and armed by TNI and POLRI

* Formation and entry of international peacekeeping forces into East
Timor

* That all forces to respect the results of the ballot which is a
reflection
 of the aspirations of the Timorese

* End to all support given by the Indonesian government to the militias

* End to the sending of Indonesian security forces to East Timor

We declare our full support for all the solidarity actions and strikes
conducted by trade unions worldwide.

We call on the international community, especially the workers to
maintain pressure on the Indonesian government through
strikes/industrial action, economic sanctions and other forms of
pressure.

Jakarta 11 September 1999

National Front for Indonesian Labour Struggle
Dita Indah Sari, Chairperson
Ilham Syah, General Secretary


For more information, contact:

Action In Solidarity with Indonesia and East Timor (ASIET)
www.peg.apc.org/~asiet

Australia Asia Worker Links
PO Box 264 Fitzroy Victoria 3065 Australia
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[CTRL] DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 1999

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Richer

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X DRUDGE REPORT X WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 1999 19:42:08 ET X

PAPER: FBI BLOWS CHINA-NUKE PROBE; WILL START FROM SCRATCH, INTERVIEW 500
POTENTIAL SUSPECTS

A three-year FBI investigation of an alleged Chinese spying at Los Alamos
National Laboratory has been so mismanaged that the bureau plans to restart
the high-profile probe from scratch -- examining more than 500 potential
suspects at scores of sites across the country, the LOS ANGELES TIMES is
reporting in Thursday runs.

"Officials said the FBI will add more agents and other investigative
resources in an attempt to jump-start the probe," the paper's Bob Drogin
reports.

FBI Director Freeh appeared Wednesday in closed-door briefings on The Hill.

Drogin reports: "One official who attended a briefing said the original
allegation -- that a Chinese spy had penetrated Los Alamos and stolen W-88
secrets for Beijing -- has effectively evaporated."

"I think they're basically saying: 'Perhaps this never happened,'" the
official tells the paper.

"It's like a deer caught in the headlights," the official said of the FBI.
"They don't know whether to go forward or backward."

The "FBI wasn't initially aware that so many people in so many places had
access to W-88 secrets" says the TIMES.

Developing...



X X X X X

NBC BLASTED FOR UPCOMING Y2K SCARE FILM

WASHINGTON -- The NBC-TV Network has been hit with stinging criticism over
plans to air Y2K -- a two-hour suspense thriller about a trouble-shooter
trying to save the world from catastrophic computer disaster -- just weeks
before New Year's Eve 1999!

"This is one of the most irresponsible things to ever come out of Hollywood!"
charged a lawmaker on the Senate Special Committee on the Year 2000
Technology Problem.

"Why is NBC doing this? There are going to end up scaring people into a
complete panic. Shame, shame, shame on them!"

On Wednesday NBC announced plans to air Y2K on November 21, in what is being
described as a "Sweeps Event."

"As the millenium dawns in North America, most of the Eastern Seaboard
suffers a major power outage," NBC said in a press release. "But the worst is
yet to come. Nick [a complex systems failure expert consulting the government
played by actor Ken Olin] must stay ahead of the unpredictable Y2K bug as it
spreads across the United States threatening everyone, including his own
family on the West Coast."

In NBC's Y2K, the computer bug causes widespread ATM failures -- a plot twist
that has one U.S. Senator concerned about real-life bank runs!

"After people see this movie, they could get the idea in their head and rush
to the bank to get money out -- this could trigger cash problems," said the
Senator, who asked not to be identified.

In NBC's Y2K -- a nuclear power plant even threatens to go into meltdown.

[As long as the radiation spreads to Burbank.]

X X X X X

ROSS: DON'T TOUCH ME IN THE MORNING!

Of course the British press goes headline-wild on Thursday after
singermotherproduceractress Diana Ross was arrested at London's Heathrow
airport over allegations that she had assaulted a woman security officer who
she said touched her breast while frisking her.

Page Ones:

"TAKE YOUR MITS OFF MY HITS" goes the DAILY STAR.

"DON'T TOUCH ME IN THE MORNING" reads the RECORD.

"TIT FOR TAT" rats the SUN.

"MY HELL" says the MIRROR.

"STOP, IN THE NAME OF THE LAW" sings the INDEPENDENT.

"I sat in the police room crying my eyes out," Ross told reporters. "I was
frightened, absolutely terrified. I felt violated and humiliated."

Ross was searched by hand while trying to catch a flight on the Concord when
her silver-buckled belt set off a metal detector.

Ross: "She touched my breasts twice, and down my back and down my thighs and
between my legs."

"No one touches my breasts - who do they think they are?"

"It was the worst experience of my life. I travel a lot, all over the world,
but I've never had this kind of treatment before. My face is swollen I've
cried so much," Ross tells the MIRROR.

"They wouldn't touch a man's penis, would they?"

"I've never been inside a police station before. When I arrived they actually
said to me that if any other people were brought into custody they would have
to put me in a cell. I really started to cry then. I told them I was
frightened and I didn't know what to do. I was taken there without any
support and they said to me I could make a call to my family and to my lawyer
- but I don't even know a lawyer in London."

Ross continues: "They gave me tea. The first cup was hot and burned my
tongue. But I was so, so miserable. My face has swollen up because I cried so
much."

A spokesman for Heathrow Airport security told reporters: "The vast majority
of the 60 million passengers who pass through Heathrow understand the airport
security procedures. We are required by law to hand search any passenger who
activates the metal detector alarms. Occasionally, high- profile celebrities
take offence at this procedure."

X X X X 

Re: [CTRL] ] Our Presidential Choices

1999-09-23 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/23/99 1:49:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> "Buchanan=fascism of the nationalist variety."
>
>  Thats "national socialism" of the Hitler- Mussolini variety.  There are
>  indicators in Buchanan of other nat.soc. traits. (l)Racism and
>  anti=semitism  (2) economic nationalism  (3) militarism (4) the strident
>  leader image (5) appeal to the grass roots (6) dilution of the Nazi threat
>  (7) rigid statist social views.
>
>  As we have said before Buchanan is Right Hegelian.  No change for us
>
>

Yes.  Thanks for the comments.  Let me elaborate a little.  The main thrust
of his National Socialist (fascist) policy will concentrate on the idea of
American economic domination, which will be a better tool for world control
or policing than the military, though the military will be ready, willing and
able to back it up.  Interesting point about the strident leader image.  His
grass roots appeal does seem to gloss over all the nefarious connections he
may have had with neo-nazi types and the KKK.  He could get a lot of votes
simply because he is seen as an outsider who is scorned for his political
stance.

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[CTRL] JIM KEITH WAS NOT ALONE NITRO NEWS EXCLUSIVE

1999-09-23 Thread Nicky Molloy

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Nitro News is back.

http://www.nitronews.com/
http://www.nitronews.com/specials.html

JIM KEITH WAS NOT ALONE
NITRO NEWS EXCLUSIVE

48 hours after Nitro News published Jim Keith's shock article on Princess
Diana's supposed pregnancy, he passed away at age 50 from a blood clot, and
our servers crashed.


It was only yesterday that we managed to fix the technical glitch. And soon
afterwards, we accessed the famed author's Nitro Mail account, which we had
set up for him.


We discovered that Keith had received a wealth of eye-opening information
about the Diana case, just hours before his untimely death.


According to his sources, Jim was not alone in his belief that the Princess
of Wales was pregnant. Members of the German media uncovered evidence in
late 1997 to support the stunning claim, although the story was never
published outside the country.


But perhaps Diana herself provided the answer when she once wore the number
"492" on her baseball hat during a secret visit to a London hospital. This
number is the top line of the kabbalistic magic square for Saturn. The
mysterious square is used in Islamic tradition as a sigil to aid women after
childbirth.


Other individuals may have known of her pregnancy too, but they have since
disappeared. On the evening of their deaths, Diana and Dodi were planning to
dine at the Chez Benoit restaurant with representatives of Tomasso Buti, a
Miami-based Italian bussinessman and founder of the Fashion Cafe. Since that
time, Buti has vanished.


And in Britain, two mentors of Prince Charles, Michael Bentine and Laurens
van der Post, died within days of each other. Both had backgrounds with
British intelligence.


According to documentation, Dodi was aware of the dangers of leaving the
Ritz well after midnight. In fact, he spoke to his father over the phone
about serious security concerns. Ex-MI6 spy Richard Tomlinson, in exclusive
comments to Nitro News, admits that the Ritz was riddled with British
intelligence officers that night - a fact that may have made Diana
uncomfortable.


The Princess of Wales was a close friend of Lucia Flecha de Lima, the wife
of the then ambassador from Brazil to the United States. Interestingly
enough, the slip road that leads off the Cours Albert-Premier just before
the entry to the deadly tunnel leads to the Brazilian embassy. Keith's
sources suggest that Diana and Dodi may have been headed to that embassy to
escape trouble from MI6.


Since ex-spy Tomlinson exposed MI6's presence in the Diana case, he has been
on the run: "MI6 have been harassing me relentlessly for the past two
years," he told Editor Charles MacLaurin. "They have illegally banned me
from entering France, even though I have a UK passport, and they have also
used their influence in Australia to stop me getting a visa there."


There's no doubt that a pregnant Diana by Dodi would have been a huge
embarrassment to the British Establishment. But was it a large enough
embarrassment to murder them both? If Jim Keith had lived to write another
chapter in this tragic case, his answer may well have been yes.


Mass Control - Jim Keith's Final Book


Here stands the New Man. His conception of reality is a dance of electronic
images fired into his forebrain, a gossamer construction of his masters,
designed so that he will not perceive the actual. His happiness is delivered
to him through a tube or an electronic connection. His God lurks behind an
electronic curtain - when the curtain is pulled away we find the CIA
sorcerer, the media manipulator.


The late Jim Keith, famed Nitro News columnist and America's most beloved
conspiracy writer, has written his final and greatest chapter. There has
never been a book which so carefully and thoroughly exposes the secret plans
to dominate world consciousness, and to put the reins of control in the
hands of a few.


In the pages of this remarkable book, we see exposed for the first time a
century of corruption, and the strange pieces of the puzzle finally put into
place. Completed shortly before his untimely death, this book is a
triumphant completion of Keith's life goal - to make sense of the
terrifying, hidden history of world control.


Mass Control will be published shortly, but you can reserve your precious
copy right now online.

Click Here To Order Jim Keith's Final Book









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Re: [CTRL] militarization of "law enforcement" -

1999-09-23 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/22/99 11:46:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> US national newspaper, September 21, 1999
>
>  Federal Commission Predicts Increasing Threat of Terrorism
>  By STEVEN LEE MYERS
>  WASHINGTON -- The United States faces increasing threats from terrorism in
>  the next 25 years and is likely to be compelled to intervene in other
>  conflicts like Kosovo and East Timor even as its military shrinks, a
federal
>  advisory commission warned in a report released on Monday.
>
>  The report makes grim predictions about crises and threats at home and
>  abroad. The commission, headed by former Sens. Gary Hart and Warren B.
>  Rudman, warns in the 143-page report that the country "will be vulnerable
to
>  an increasing range of threats against American forces and citizens
>  overseas, as well as at home," from terrorists or rogue states.
>
>  "While conventional conflicts will still be possible, the most serious
>  threat to our security may consist of unannounced attacks on American
>  cities" by terrorist groups using germ warfare, said a summary of the
>  report. "Another may be well-planned cyber-attack on the air traffic
control
>  system on the East Coast of the United States as some 200 commercial
>  aircraft are trying to land safely in a morning's rain and fog."
>
<>

This is all propaganda as far as I'm concerned.  They are prejustifying the
"need" for a greater role by the military and the militarization of the
police.  This way they will have it easy as everyone will be fearful of the
"big, bad bogeyman" of terrorism and extremist violence.  I'm so sick of it
now, I'm really going to be bad off in another 10 years.

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Re: [CTRL] Bush's Military-Industrial Complex

1999-09-23 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 9/23/99 11:00:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> If any more evidence is needed that he is not just the banks
>  boy, but the banks Boy George, then I guess we will just
>  have to wait for his next instructions to manifest
>  themselveshe is the NWO totality, made so through deals
>  done by his grandfather way back when, when naziism was
>  formulated, funded, and created in Germany to spread
>  throughout the world by the likes of his fascist family.  Do
>  as I say and not as I do is the Bush credo.  They all need
>  to be in front of Crime Tribunals of the people, instead of
>  in front of cameras, and that just shows the depth of
>  corruption of the video/woodpulp paper media.  With weapons
>  like these imagine the conflict they will have to sow to
>  profit from them...they are small minded ignorant pigs whose
>  power derives from the mass ignorance created by Television
>  and Hearstian Media.
>

NWO elitist variety.  I think he favors European hegemony of the NWO and will
probably side with the German resurgence and be all for their dominance.
Continued tension in the SEA area so as to supply all sides and to get
benefits from all countries.  Black Nobility has Europe as a base, and it is
said that he is of that stripe.

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[CTRL] Hmmmmm. Texas Shooter A Right-Winger...Go Figure!

1999-09-23 Thread William Shannon

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Fort Worth, Texas gunman linked to fascist group
By Martin McLaughlin
22 September 1999
Use this version to print

The gunman who murdered seven people at a Fort Worth church September 15 had
ties to extreme-right-wing groups in Texas, according to reports first
published in the Houston Chronicle. Larry Ashbrook, 47, killed four teenagers
and three adults before taking his own life.

Writer John Craig is co-author of a 1997 book, Soldiers of God, which
examines white supremacist and Christian fascist organizations in America. He
told the newspaper that he had spoken to Ashbrook in 1997 while interviewing
members of the Ku Klux Klan for the book. Ashbrook told him he was a member
of the "Phineas Priests," one of the far-right tendencies which are
collectively known as "Christian Identity."

The Phineas sect is named after a Biblical high priest who murdered a Jewish
prince for taking a non-Jewish lover. Its membership consists of
self-appointed "race warriors" who pledge to kill Jews, racial minorities,
gays, abortion providers and whites who marry across racial or religious
lines. The fascist gunman Buford Furrow, who attacked a Jewish community
center in Los Angeles last month and later murdered an Asian-American postal
worker, was also associated with the Phineas Priests.

Craig suggested that Ashbrook may have targeted the Westbrook Baptist Church
for violence because the Southern Baptist Convention, to which Westbrook is
affiliated, recently announced a campaign to convert Jews to Christianity.
While this campaign was criticized by Jewish groups, the announcement was
denounced by violent anti-Semitic elements as well. "To a Phineas priest or
white supremacist that is the ultimate blasphemy," Craig said, "because they
believe that they are the children of Israel."

According to the Klanwatch Project, which monitors ultra-right-wing activity,
the Phineas Priests are not so much an organized group as a title assumed by
individual terrorists who operate like the Oklahoma City bomber, Timothy
McVeigh, or Benjamin Smith, who went on a shooting rampage against Jews,
blacks and Asians in Illinois and Indiana over the July 4 weekend. "To become
a Phineas Priest means to commit armed robbery, arson, sabotage, kidnapping
and murder," a spokesman for Klanwatch said. "It is a commitment to a holy
war."

In 1997 four men calling themselves Phineas Priests were convicted in
Spokane, Washington of a series of bombings and bank robberies during the
previous year, including bomb attacks on the offices of Planned Parenthood
and the Spokesman-Review, the Spokane daily newspaper. Three were sentenced
to life in prison and one to a term of 55 years.

Craig said he had notified the FBI after his interview with Ashbrook and
other supporters of right-wing terrorism in 1997, and that he called the Fort
Worth police department "repeatedly" in the days after the Westbrook
killings, but neither agency has shown any interest in evidence that
right-wing politics may underlie the massacre.

FBI officials said they had no plans to pursue Craig's story and Fort Worth
police spokesman David Ellis was unaware Craig had even called the
department. Another city spokesman dismissed interest in this aspect of the
case, indicating that with Ashbrook's suicide, there was no point in looking
into his background. "We're not doing a biography on this subject," he said.

There is no question that Ashbrook was a deeply disturbed individual, likely
a schizophrenic, from descriptions of his behavior by neighbors. The
unemployed Navy veteran lived at home with his elderly parents and was
socially isolated after their deaths—his mother in 1990, his father two
months ago. His conduct was increasingly erratic, and included agitated
letters to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, and even a visit to the newspaper's
office, where he met the city editor, as well as a telephone conversation
with a writer at the alternative FW Weekly in which he claimed, "My life has
been destroyed by these people—Air Force personnel, Tarrant County sheriff's
deputies, the Klan."

The fact of his derangement does not, however, render irrelevant the
political connections which he seems to have formed during the last years of
his life, and which certainly contributed to the homicidal form of his mental
breakdown.

Despite the report in the Houston Chronicle, later amplified by the Los
Angeles Times and Reuters news agency, the fascist connections of the Fort
Worth gunman have been generally ignored by the mass media, including the
television networks and the New York Times. Instead, there has been an effort
to utilize the Fort Worth tragedy to win sympathy for Christian
fundamentalist groups and portray them as the target of hate crimes—the slant
taken by both weekly newsmagazines Time and Newsweek.

While Time quotes the Reverend Jerry Falwell declaring that Christian
fundamentalists are under siege in America, it appears that the deranged
gunman was motivated by a

[CTRL] PALS Mail (fwd)

1999-09-23 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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Screen 001 of 004  Record 0047 of 0373  General Magazine   Catalog TRN
   Library: North Dakota State Univ.
  Location: LIBRARY does not own citation title
  Database: EXPANDED ACADEMIC INDEX
  Citation: Dollars & Sense Jan-Feb 1999, 221, 8(2)
Author:  Bloch, Tobias Sheppard
 Title: The true scandal of American politics.(1999 omnibus
   budget bill) by Tobias Sheppard Bloch and Brendan
   Smith

COPYRIGHT 1999 Dollars & Sense
  In a single 15 minute vote, the 535 members of Congress passed a 40 pound,
$500 billion, 4000 page bill that not one elected official had read in its
entirety. The bill, the Omnibus Appropriations Act, negotiated behind closed
doors by a handful of individuals representing Congressional leadership and
the White House, is swollen with so much rotten pork and dirty back room deals
that even veteran Washington pundits are holding their noses.
  Stuffed to the gills with election-year goodies at the expense of
initiatives desperately needed by working America - health care reform, job
training, a minimum wage increase - the Omnibus bill whistles corporate
America's favorite tune. The bill teems with rebates for oil companies,
extended tax breaks for millionaires who own foreign companies, and $50
million for "war and revolution insurance" for corporations that throw
American workers out on the street and move their factories to unstable third
world countries. Congressional leaders even remembered old friends, setting
aside $2 million to start a Robert J. Dole Institute for Public Policy.
  Seeking consolation in the 100,000 new teachers that Clinton insisted on
provides little comfort. The budget deal only pays for 30,000, while the other
70,000 are part of Clinton's education "initiative," with no money set aside.
  Due to its enormous size, equaling one-third of the entire federal budget,
the Omnibus Appropriations Act contained many important programs. The funds
included in this bill will ensure that roads are built, seniors get their
medical prescription rebates, and family farms are saved. But that's the
trick. In order to get controversial measures passed that could not survive in
the light of day, the leadership coupled them with vital funding measures, and
therefore ensured passage of their favorite corporate welfare programs and
pork projects. Moreover, Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton took the opportunity
to attach several pieces of legislation that had been voted down on the House
floor, including $18 billion in funding for the IMF.
  While this may shock those with a refined sense of democratic process,
Gingrich and Clinton couldn't be happier with the latest budget deal. Setting
aside their occasional disagreements over infidelity and abortion, this
marriage is based on philosophical agreement on most major issues, ranging
from economics and trade to defense priorities. Our President and Speaker of
the House come to the altar under a pro-business, pro-defense, pro-free trade
canopy. Life at the bargaining table is marital bliss when parties agree on
90% of issues, with no chance of divorce anytime in the foreseeable future.
  Let's look at their latest pride-and-joy. Our illustrious couple added $9.1
billion to an already bloated $280 billion Pentagon budget, which represents
the largest peacetime military spending increase since the days of Ronald
Reagan's Cold War. Congressional leaders demanded $96 million in
"drug-interdiction" funding to aid the Colombian government in purchasing six
Black Hawk Helicopters to curtail Marxist guerrilla movements. The Republicans
insisted on earmarking funding for their defense contractor friends, but
refused to raise military pension benefits in order to help veterans
desperately in need.
  They also added $1 billion to the useless $50 billion Star Wars program.
Each of the last five attempts to shoot missiles out of the sky has failed,
and the Department of Defense will tell you why. According to Gen. Henry
Shelton, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "putting more money into
[Ballistic Missile Defense] won't produce a product any sooner ... money will
not help solve the engineering and integration challenges that are being
faced."
  Worst of all, the leadership of both parties poured $18 billion of US
taxpayers' funds down the International Monetary Fund (IMF) blackhole. The IMF
has become the prime architect and enforcer of corporate globalism. While
imposing a right-wing agenda on the developing world, the IMF has forced the
majority of the world's economies into a descent through hell. The recent
failures in South Korea, Indonesia and Thailand frighteningly emphasize the
IMF's disastrous policy prescriptions, which force countrie

[CTRL] Rich nations owe billions to the poor (fwd)

1999-09-23 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message 
 The Guardian Weekly 23-9-1999, page 12

 Rich 'owe' billions to the poor

 by Mark Atkinson

 Far from being in debt to rich countries, the world's poorest nations
 are owed hundreds of billions of dollars by them for the
 disproportionate amount of environmental damage they inflict on the
 planet, says a report* published this week by one of Britain's leading
 charities.

 Christian Aid says that the developed world's bill on its carbon
 dioxide account is three times as large as its financial debt from the
 developing world - $612bn compared with $200bn.

 The report says that rich countries' demands for debt repayments are
 morally illegitimate and undermine the ability of poor countries to
 achieve internationally agreed poverty reduction targets.

 Andrew Simms, a policy adviser at Christian Aid, said: "We
 constantly think of the world's poorest countries as being in debt to us
 . . . But these debts are dwarfed by the huge and rising carbon debt
 owed by the rich countries to the global community."

 A quicker and more generous debt relief package was agreed in
 principle at the annual meeting of the Group of Seven leading
 industrialised nations in Germany this year, but details are still being
 worked out.

 This week Britain stepped up pressure on the European Commission
 to contribute €1bn ($1.04bn).

 To calculate carbon debt, Mr Simms has taken the world population
 in 1990 and divided it by the carbon dioxide emissions that scientists
 at that year's inter-governmental panel on climate change said would
 be permitted to hit the target of a minimum 60% reduction in
 production of global warming gases.

 Mr Simms reckons that gives everyone an allocation of 0.4 tonnes a
 year, with each tonne priced at $3,000 according to the contribution it
 is estimated to make to global GDP.

 On that basis, he says heavily indebted poor countries are in credit on
 their climate account because of their under-use or efficient use of
 fossil fuels, while the developed world is deeply in the red.

 * * * >>

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[CTRL] EZBreeZee Mortgage Co.

1999-09-23 Thread day

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Only in America..

 >The Mortgage
 >
 >"Hi, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. Welcome to EZBreeZee Mortgages. I'm Alan
 >Greenspan.
 >
 >No, no relation, sorry to say. May I call you Bill and Hillary?
 >
 >Fine, first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill it is.
 >
 >"So you want to buy the old Rye Brook place, 4-something acres, as I
 >recall. That's $2.2 million, and, with the customary 20 percent down
 >$440,000 - that leaves a mortgage of $1,760,000.
 >
 >No problem. We do these kinds of deals all the time.
 >
 >Now let's just have a look at your financial statements.
 >
 >"Let's see. Mr. Clinton, you are the president of the United States,
 >of course, and your salary is - oh, dear - $200,000 a year. We
 >usually recommend buying a house that costs no more than
 >two-and-a-half times your annual salary. That means you should be
 >looking for something around $500,000, perhaps a nice brick rancher
 >on a quarter of an acre, not too fancy a neighborhood?
 >
 >"And I see here that you'll be out of a job in 16 months or so. What
 >will you do then? Open a library. In Little Rock, Arkansas. Wow! I
 >bet that will be some kind of money-maker.
 >
 >"Mrs. Clinton, you're running for Senate, right?
 >
 >"Let's see. Senators are paid $130,000 a year - assuming, of course,
 >you're elected - so even with Bill's pensions, you should still be
 >looking for a house in the $325,000 range. Maybe a nice center-hall
 >colonial where the schools aren't so good.
 >
 >"Mrs. Clinton, you haven't worked outside the home since 1991,
 >correct? But you did some volunteer work, I see. You came up with a
 >plan to overhaul the entire national health care system?
 >
 >"I see. It flopped, in other words.
 >
 >"But I see you had several business ventures back in Arkansas. How
 >about this Whitewater Development Corp.?
 >
 >"It went bankrupt.
 >
 >"And Madison Guaranty?
 >
 >"Bankrupt.
 >
 >"And Castle Grande?
 >
 >"Bankrupt, too.
 >
 >"If you had gone to Yale Business School instead of Yale Law, you
 >could probably get your money back.
 >
 >"Now, don't get upset. It was just a little joke.
 >
 >"A little bad luck with the law, too, I see.
 >
 >?Three of your business partners went to jail?
 >
 >"Maybe you could get your money back.
 >
 >"This is an embarrassing question, I know, but we have to ask because
 >it does, after all, affect your ability to pay:
 >
 >"Any problems in your marriage? No? Fine.
 >
 >"Let's look at your assets: $1.5 million.
 >
 >"Not bad.
 >
 >"Yes, yes, Mr. Clinton, we're not forgetting your Mustang back in
 >Little Rock.
 >
 >"But oh, those liabilities. You owe $5.5 million. That means you're
 >$4 million in the hole.
 >
 >"How do you expect to pay that off?
 >
 >"You're hoping people will donate to a special fund.
 >
 >"So basically, you're relying on the chartity of strangers.
 >
 >"You also have some serious expenses. A kid at Stanford has got to be
 >setting you back $30,000 to $35,000 a year, probably more with the
 >air fares. And she wants to go to medical school? Ouch!
 >
 >"And Mr. Clinton. There's a little matter of a $90,000 fine for lying
 >in court. I guess that rules out putting your law degree to work.
 >"Say, now, how do we know you're not lying on your loan application?
 >
 >"Good point. It would look a lot better if you were lying.
 >
 >"Are there any other legal matters we should know about?
 >
 >"You say you're in the clear, Mr. Clinton, and the first lady is
 >'pretty much in the clear indictment-wise'. What does that mean?
 >"You don't think - don't think - she's going to get hit with a
 >perjury or obstruction of justice rap.
 >
 >"But we're not totally sure, right?
 >
 >"That means there's the remote possibility - note that I say
 >'remote'-that you could be trying to pay off a $1.76 million mortgage
 >while making 12 cents an hour stitching mailbags for the feds and he
 >is trying to make a go of a library in Little Rock.
 >
 >"Let's review the situation.
 >
 >"One of you is now unemployed and the other one soon will be.
 >
 >"You have these whopping great debts that you're hoping someone is
 >going to come along and pay.
 >
 >"You have a financial history that can only with great charity be
 >described as 'checkered* plus a bunch of serious financial demands
 >and ongoing legal problems.
 >
 >"Your tangible assets seem to consist of an old Ford.
 >
 >"So, congratulations! Welcome to the EZBreeZee family of home-owners.
 >You've got your mortgage!  "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt
> those who find it.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Total Corruption

1999-09-23 Thread K

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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_metaksa/19990923_xctme_t
otal_corr.shtml
Total Corruption
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely seems
to be the new law enforcement motto. From the highest law
enforcement office down to the street cop corruption is rampant.
>From Los Angeles to New York City examples of rogue cops
are becoming the rule rather than the exception. In addition to
the daily surprises of lying and cover-ups from the Department
of Justice, other federal agencies are equally arrogant and
contemptuous. {HYPERLINK 
"http://www.nytimes.com/library/opinion/lewis/092199lewi.html"}Anthony Lewis writes 
about a pregnant
American citizen who has been held in jail since June by the
Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) due to a dispute
concerning her citizenship.
The problem of corrupt, ruthless, or inept law enforcement at
every level of government is a recurring problem in society.
Police certainly don't disturb the skeletons in their own closets,
while politicians live in awe and fear of the police establishment.
According to Amnesty International, "Most U.S. police
departments have strict guidelines on the use of deadly force. ...
However, it is clear that these standards are frequently breached
and that too often the authorities have turned a blind eye to
abuses."
In 1993 after the tragedies at Ruby Ridge and the Mount
Carmel Center under the auspices of the FBI, a coalition of the
American Civil Liberties Union, the National Criminal Defense
Lawyers, the National Rifle Association, the Second
Amendment Foundation, and others began building a case for
ineptitude, disregard for civil rights and bad law enforcement on
the part of federal law enforcement. New leadership in Congress
and a strong push by the coalition led to initiation and funding for
the Commission on the Advancement of Federal Law
Enforcement. The commission will issue its final report next
week.
The final recommendations in the Draft Staff document is a
disappointment. I hoped that the commission would not only
make recommendations for improving the current organizational
structure of federal law enforcement agencies, but would also
review their abysmal civil rights legacy and put together strong
recommendations to ensure civil liberties. Although I have not
seen the entire report, it appears that only the final
recommendation, "Focus on Professionalism, Integrity, and
Accountability," which covers issues such as recruitment,
training, rules of engagement, and the use of force, even touches
on the question of law enforcement abuses.
It's probably just too much to ask any law enforcement agency
or a commission headed by a former FBI director to properly
address shortcomings and abuses. After all, when local police
need oversight, local leaders either turn to a civilian review
board or ask the Department of Justice to review the allegations.
It was over seven months ago when {HYPERLINK 
"http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_metaksa/19990211_xctme_gunned_dow.shtml"}I 
wrote, "The pattern is the
same: a hail of bullets, police promises of a swift and fair
investigation, community activists call for federal involvement,
community leaders asking for calm and patience, and then a long
silence pending the results of an investigation." The geography
may change, but the incidents begin to blend one into the other.
In that article I called for a return to a civilian focus for police
training rather than military Rambo-type training. At least the
commission recommends that annual training in the use of deadly
force, which "should not be confused with firearms re-
qualification," be required for all federal law enforcement
personnel.
But again the new military-attack mindset of the police rears its
ugly head. The latest revelations of criminal activity in the Los
Angeles Police Department (LAPD) appear to be just the tip of
a corrupt group of cops with a Rambo-style attitude. In fact the
Los Angeles Times says they emulated the style of the gangs
they were policing. According to yesterday's {HYPERLINK 
"http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/STATE/UPDATES/lat_crash990922.htm"}Los Angeles
Times:
Justice Department (DOJ) officials have been monitoring the
LAPD for the last several years to determine whether there
is any pattern of use of excessive force. The purpose of such
"pattern and practice" reviews, authorized by federal law in
1994, is to ensure proper management and oversight at
police departments and, if needed, to bring federal lawsuits
to pressure local authorities into cleaning up their operations.
The Justice Department official said the latest allegations,
involving falsified police reports and framed suspects, go
well beyond the issues that the federal government
previously had been examining at the LAPD.
The pattern that DOJ officials have been monitoring includes
cases where cops shot and killed a frail mentally ill Margaret
Mitchell, holding nothing 

[CTRL] [Fwd: URGENT/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent]

1999-09-23 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: URGENT/Denver Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:26:26 +
From: "NewsHawk Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: NewsHawk Inc.

9.23.99
Denver/Bio-Chem Attack Alleged Imminent

We are forwarding this message from a trusted source in the Denver area,
who has provided much useful information to both "official" and
unofficial uncompromised investigators: for example, recently in the
Columbine school massacre and the murders of JFK Jr., wife and
sister-in-law.


NewsHawk Inc.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I've received information today--Sept.23, 1999--
from 2 of my sources, both of whom I trust, that the
Denver Metro area will be hit with a Bio-Chemical
attack sometime within the next month.

I've known of Bio-Chemicals being stored in the
Mountains just outside Denver, possibly in/on  Mt.
Evans, for quite some time. I've spent a lot of time
attempting to locate said Bio-Chemical weapons, and
the terrorists that hold them and guard them. They
are a conglomerate of "terrorists" in that some are
Mexican, some are Russian, some are Libyan, some are
Afghani, etc.

We anticipated this attack closer to the Y2K deadline,
but are not surprised at the accelerated date. We
believe this will be used as the excuse to declare
Martial Law, and of course remove what freedoms
we have left, after first killing between 300,000 -
400,000 people: population reduction, in other words.

Buy Gas masks and Bio-Chemical suits, now. As always,
these plans CAN be thwarted if we make this public
enough, albeit, for a brief period of time. Only God
and his son can ultimately put a stop to these bastards.
And they will, in their time.

Anyway, please pass this on to everyone you can
possibly think of an have them make this information
known as publicly as possible. Also, I hold you to your
promise of my complete anonymity.
Thanks.

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[CTRL] Fwd: Identity, Privacy and Personal Freedom

1999-09-23 Thread K
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{Commentary"}Identity, Privacy and Personal Freedom © 1999 Claire Wolfe
The attack on privacy by Big Brother and his Little Brother corporations is more than mere theft. It's murder. It's the murder of individuality. Once-free people are becoming mere resources to be {HYPERLINK "http://www.privacyinternational.org/survey/"}tracked, cataloged and manipulated.
More people are waking up to the harm being done to their freedom by universal ID, surveillance and personal data- tracking. They're looking around, sleepy-eyed, and asking, "But what do I do about it?"
I've said before and I'll say again: There is no one answer. And there are no easy answers. The onslaught against privacy is such a blitzkrieg that humanity in general may be as helpless as the Poles were against Hitler 60 years ago this month.
But even if that pessimistic view is accurate (and I hope it's not) individuals can be privacy partisans -- if we're willing to make the effort and take the risks.
I have no silver bullet to offer in this fight against evil. (And beware of anyone who claims to.) You are going to need to examine a lot of options, weigh them against your own lifestyle and personality -- and run them through your own BS filter, besides (as there's a lot of nonsense out there, or a lot of techniques that may work for a short time, only to bring trouble down on you later).
But there are good techniques for those gutsy or determined enough to use them. Let me introduce you to a man who's got a lot of them.
Sheldon Charrett is a private detective -- a professional snoop. He's also "... an individual who's experienced a lifetime of injustice and finally got sick of it." He has written several books including {HYPERLINK "http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/087364946X/wolfeslodge"}The Modern Identity Changer and his newest, {HYPERLINK "http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1581600429/wolfeslodge"}Identity, Privacy, and Personal Freedom: Big Brother vs. The New Resistance. Both books are published by {HYPERLINK "http://www.paladin-press.com"}Paladin Press.
New Resistance is a 225-page compendium of privacy how- tos. Some chapters -- like those on Internet and telephone privacy -- focus on commonsense advice anyone can use (like how to make sure your browser doesn't automatically give your name to every website operator). Other chapters are more hardcore -- like the one on how to obtain real government documents with an unreal identity (easiest if you're young), and the one that contains very detailed instructions on how to make your own ID, complete with homemade faux hologram.
The book is pricey -- $40 (Ouch!) -- and no, it doesn't contain any silver bullets. But it does hold a wealth of useful info -- info that's as up-to-date as any can be in this time of mega- encroachment.
I asked Sheldon about New Resistance and privacy:
Can you give me your pocket opinion on why privacy protection is increasingly important?
Privacy has been evanescing since the dawn of the industrial age. But with the recent quantum leaps of what I'll call the computer age, privacy is now violently boiling away -- evaporating before our very eyes. It's a classic case of technology far outpacing sociology. If we don't vigilantly protect our privacy today, our children will be born into a world where privacy can only be read about in history books -- if such books will still be allowed - - and ultimately be inured to further attempts to crush the spirit of the individual.
For example, can you imagine a congressman 200 years ago proposing to the House a numbering scheme for social security purposes? He wouldn't have gotten off the floor in one piece. But today, descendants of those congressmen routinely propose ways of using the Social Security number to more efficiently control the masses. Why? Because when they were born, the number already existed. For them, the number is a fact of life to be accepted. There is no longer a question of whether we should have such a number to begin with. Rather the question is, "How do we use it?" I think this is very unfortunate.
SSN issues are becoming more difficult every day. Do you have some recommendations for ordinary working people to avoid universal numbering in their lives?
To begin, I'd recommend not working for any large outfits unless you're willing to put up a large fight to keep yourself unnumbered. Work for small businesses and ask to be paid as an independent contractor. Many small businesses will actually prefer this arrangement. Medium-sized businesses will want to give you a 1099-MISC at the end of the year, at which point you'll have to provide a {HYPERLINK "http://www.irs.gov/prod/forms_pubs/pubs/p3340101.htm"}taxpayer identification number. Just tell them it has been "applied for." If you meet resistance, use the tactics from Chapter 10, "Banking Privacy." Many of those techniques will apply here.
What are the three most important actions (or attitudes) for guarding privacy?
One: Question aut

[CTRL] Fwd: Tagged Students Defy Big Broter

1999-09-23 Thread K
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Tagged Students Defy Big Brother
Reject being forced to wear social security numbers
By David M. Bresnahan © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com
RUSTON, Louisiana -- Hundreds of students in this little town don't want to wear their Social Security numbers around their necks for all to see. Their school administrators have ignored their complaints even though their numbers are growing.
When the school year began a few weeks ago, the students at Ruston High School, like many students across the nation, were required to wear an ID badge as part of added security precautions. The badges in Ruston include each student's Social Security number, a violation of federal law according to two students.
The badges are worn on a lanyard with the Pepsi logo on it. The badge has a photo of the student, the school name, the student's name, and a barcode which represents the Social Security number. Although administrators claim the number is protected from unauthorized use through encryption in the barcode, the students know that is not true.
To prove how easy it is to read the barcodes, Jonathan Washington, 16, reads any barcode in about 15 seconds. He tells other students their Social Security number and then asks them to sign his petition to have the cards changed.
His methods are convincing. Over 350 students have signed in just the first few days. Rachel Winchel, 16, another Ruston student, is helping to spread the protest and circulate the petition.
"We just aren't taught code 39 barcode encryption in school. It's just another system that is easily learned. It's not that hard," explained Washington to WorldNetDaily. He has created an {HYPERLINK "http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Bridge/1086/School/barcodes.html"}Internet web page to teach others how to read the cards.
Washington and Winchel are also concerned that a student from the school did the work to enter all the Social Security numbers into the computer that was used to make the cards. They said little or no security was used to protect the numbers from unauthorized use.
"Parents should have some concern because their children's Social Security numbers are linked directly to theirs in all financial records. If you have a child's you can get the parents'. It's a financial jeopardy to just about everyone in school," complained Washington.
He said his concern is a philosophical one, not religious. Winchel is of a different opinion.
"I have religious and moral convictions behind what they're doing as it being wrong. It's totally appalling," she said in a phone interview.
"I'm a person that's made by God and I'm not a number. I'm more special than that. I do believe that it's religiously wrong. I don't want to be branded and labeled as livestock. We're more special than that," said Winchel.
Washington is opposed to ID cards in general and does not want his Social Security number displayed for all to see, nor does he want it to be in school computers. His parents are seeking legal counsel and have not ruled out a lawsuit.
The parents of both Washington and Winchel expressed complete support for what their children are doing.
Dr. Charles Scriber is principal of the school. Although he met with Washington and his parents, he has ignored a written complaint from Winchel and her mother. He has not granted a written request for an appointment to discuss her concerns.
In an {HYPERLINK "http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/19990922_xex_louisiana_hi.shtml"}interview with WorldNetDaily he defended the practice and claims the cards are legal. He said he has no plans to change the cards.
Since the faculty and administration also wear the cards, students are busy taking down their Social Security numbers with plans to publish the results on the Internet if the cards are not discontinued.
"Actually, it's not difficult to look at it and know what it means," explained Winchel. "There's narrow bars and there's wide bars. Each number zero through nine has a code. By memorizing the code for the number zero through nine, you can just glance at someone's card and the numbers just pop out.
"Many kids at school can do it, and it doesn't take very long to even learn. That's why it concerned me because it's very easy to learn," she explained.
Winchel and Washington have cut the barcode from their cards. Amanda Winchel, Rachel's younger sister, changed her card. She painted over the barcode then created a new one which represents the number 911.
Winchel and Washington have now stopped wearing their cards, but they have not been disciplined for doing so. Their actions could lead to expulsion from school, but that is a risk they are willing to take to stand up for what they believe is right.
{HYPERLINK "http://www.cab.latech.edu/ruston/rhs/hand2.htm"}The Ruston High School Student Handbook detail the rules regarding the cards and spells out the possible penalties for infractions.
Washington's complaints to Dr. Scriber produced a sudden change in policy in the past few days. Th

[CTRL] AD 2100: miserable life on overcrowded Earth

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Original Message Follows
From: Mark Graffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: AD 2100: miserable life on overcrowded Earth
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:19:12 -0500 (CDT)

   A.D. 2100: Cornell study warns of a miserable life on overcrowded Earth
if
   population and resources are not controlled

FOR RELEASE: Sept. 20, 1999

Contact: Roger Segelken
Office: (607) 255-9736
E-Mail: [1][EMAIL PROTECTED]
ITHACA, N.Y. -- One hundred years from now, democratically determined
population-control practices and sound resource-management policies
could have the planet's 2 billion people thriving in harmony with the
environment. Lacking these approaches, a new Cornell University study
suggests, 12 billon miserable humans will suffer a difficult life on
Earth by the year 2100.

"Of course, reducing population and using resources wisely will be a
challenging task in the coming decades," says David Pimentel, lead
author of the report titled "Will Limits of the Earth's Resources
Control Human Numbers?" in the first issue of the journal Environment,
Development and Sustainability.

"It will be much more difficult," Pimentel says, "to survive in a
world without voluntary controls on population growth and ever
diminishing supplies of the Earth's resources."

Even at a reduced world population of 2 billion in A.D. 2100, life for
the average Earth dweller will not be as luxurious as it is for many
Americans today. But the lifestyle won't be as wasteful of resources,
either, the Cornell ecologist predicts. Some observers are seeing
early signs that nature is taking a hand at reducing human populations
through malnutrition and disease. According to the report, global
climate change is beginning to contribute to the food and disease
problems.

"With a democratically determined population policy that respects
basic individual rights, with sound resource-use policies, plus the
support of science and technology to enhance energy supplies and
protect the integrity of the environment," the report concludes, "an
optimum population of 2 billion for the Earth can be achieved."

Then the fortunate 2 billion will be free from poverty and starvation,
living in an environment capable of sustaining human life with
dignity, the report suggests, adding a cautionary note:

"We must avoid letting human numbers continue to increase and surpass
the limit of Earth's natural resources and forcing natural forces to
control our number by disease, malnutrition and violent conflicts over
resources," the report says.

Among the key points in the report:

-- The world population is projected to double in about 50 years.

-- Even if a worldwide limit of 2.1 children per couple were adopted
tomorrow, Earth's human population would continue to increase before
stabilizing at around 12 billion in more than 60 years. The major
reason for continued growth is "population momentum," due to the
predominantly young age structure of the world population.

-- The U.S. population has doubled during the past 60 years to 270
million and, at the current growth rate, is projected to double again,
to 540 million, in the next 75 years. Each year our nation adds 3
million people (including legal immigrants) to its population, plus an
estimated 400,000 illegal immigrants.

-- Increasing U.S. and global population will place restrictions on
certain freedoms: freedom to travel and commute to work quickly and
efficiently, freedom to visit and enjoy natural areas, freedom to
select desired foods and freedom to be effectively represented by
government

-- Today, more than 3 billion people suffer from malnutrition, the
largest number and proportion of the world population in history,
according to the World Health Organization. Malnutrition increases the
susceptibility to diseases such as diarrhea and malaria.

-- One reason for the increase in malnutrition is that production of
grains per capita has been declining since 1983. Grains provide 80
percent to 90 percent of the world's food. Each additional human
further reduces available food per capita.

-- The reasons for this per capita decrease in food production are a
20 percent decline in cropland per capita, a 15 percent decrease in
water for irrigation and a 23 percent drop in the use of fertilizers.

-- Biotechnology and other technologies apparently have not been
implemented fast enough to prevent declines in per capita food
production during the past 17 years.

-- Considering the resources likely to be available in A.D. 2100, the
optimal world population would be about 2 billion, with a standard of
living about half that of the United States in the 1990s, or at the
standard experienced by the ave

Re: [CTRL] Contact Lost with Mars Probe

1999-09-23 Thread earthman

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Yup they don't want us to see what is there huh Eyes Wide Shut
Peter

We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
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[CTRL] TURKEY: Prisoners Released, Conscience Still Locked

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: RIGHTS-TURKEY: Prisoners Released, Conscience Still Locked
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:17:28 -0500 (CDT)

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Title: RIGHTS-TURKEY: Prisoners Released, Conscience Still Locked

By Ertugrul Kurkcu

ISTANBUL, Sep 20 (IPS) - In leaving the jail where he spent the last
six years for 'press crimes,' 59 year-old sociologist Ismail Besikci
showed last week no thankfulness to the Turkish parliament that
'pardoned' him - ''I have been released, yet I'm not free,'' he said.

Besikci is one of the first dissidents to benefit from a Turkish
Parliament's decision ordering the release of journalists and writers
convicted for their work. The bill was ratified by president Suleyman
Demirel more than two weeks ago.

Cheered by Turkish and Kurdish admirers who gathered in front of the
northwestern Bursa province prison, Besicki left with a van-load of
books, court files and documents, towards his home in Ankara, which he
had last seen in November 1993.

He will have to watch his words, though, because the amnesty is
half-hearted. All those 'pardoned' are legally bound not to commit the
same 'offence' in the next three years or else go back to prison and
serve the rest of their sentences.

The exact number of journalists and writers to be released is yet
uncertain. The government says 32 convicted journalists will be freed
in the following weeks, but the process seems has been slowed-down by
bureaucratic hurdles.

The law excludes those sentenced for delivering speeches. Thus, human
rights activist Akin Birdal and lawyer Esber Yagmurdereli will remain
serving their nine-month jail terms for demanding peace between the
Turkish state and Kurdish rebels.

''This is a sin committed against freedom of conscience,'' says
Besikci, who was sentenced to 79 years and a 20,000 US dollars fine.
for 52 offenses, all related to his writings. He is still awaiting
trial for another 55 accusations.

''Lawmakers expect us to suspend our consciousness for three years in
order to be fully free. You are released but your conscience is still
under arrest. What a pity,'' he said.

''This is cosmetics,'' says Osman Ergin deputy chair of the Istanbul
Bar Association. '

'' With this amnesty, the Turkish government just expects to have a
broader margin in the forthcoming negotiations with the European Union
and the United States, who have been critical of Turkey's poor human
rights records and restrictions on freedom of expression,'' he said.

''Adding insult to injury, the amnesty is being slowed down by local
officials'' - Ergin says . ''Local prosecutors are the least willing to
enforce the law. They transfer the files out of their jurisdiction.''

Cartoonist Dogan Guzel was one of those whose release was delayed by
bureaucratic manoeuvres until Saturday, 18 september.

Sentenced to 50 months for five separate cases under charges of
''diminishing the spiritual identity of the State'', Guzel watched for
two weeks how his file was being moved from the district prosecutor's
office to his superiors' and back.

''According to the Turkish law, holding a person even for one extra
minute is a serious crime, yet I have been staying here for two extra
weeks,'' he angrily said in a telephone interview.

''The prosecutors themselves are committing crimes,'' deputy bar chair
Ergin claims. ''This can not be explained with ordinary bureaucratic
sluggishness.''

''This is the eighth time that I have been released from prison,''
Besicki recalled - ''not counting another four times I had been under
police custody. Yet, none led me to proper freedom.''

He was last imprisoned under charges of separatism for an article
titled ''The Meaning of Kurdish Women's Participation in the Guerrilla
War.'' As his trial proceeded, his was further sentenced for other
articles.

Author of 36 books and  numerous articles on the taboo issue of the
Kurdistan, Ismail Besikci has been harassed from the very start of his
academic career.

He was first sentenced to a 13-year term by a military court in 1971 -
under martial-law regulations - for a book ('The Order in East
Anatolia'), an article ('The Origins of Underdevelopment') and for
several lectures at Erzurum University, where he was teaching
sociology.

Released three years later, Besikci was stripped from his teaching post
and expelled from the university. A later work  - 'The Official Turkish
Doctrine of History and The Kurdish Question' - once again led him to
jail in 1979.

He has spent a total of 18 years in prison, paying for almost every
line he has published.

Known among Kurds as

[CTRL] a little humor

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: TOP 20 THINGS WE'D LIKE TO SEE ON THOSE OFFICE INSPIRATIONAL
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Friday, 17 September 1999

TOP 20 SAYINGS WE'D LIKE TO SEE ON THOSE OFFICE INSPIRATIONAL POSTERS

1.   Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings, they did it
   by killing all those who opposed them.

2.   If you can stay calm, while all around you there is chaos ...
   the nyou probably haven't completely understood the seriousness
   of the situation.

3.   Doing a job RIGHT the first time gets the job done. Doing the job
   WRONG fourteen times gives you job security.

4.   Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.

5.   Artificial intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity.

6.   A person who smiles in the face of adversity ... probably has a
   scapegoat.

7.   Plagiarism saves time.

8.   If at first you don't succeed, try management.

9.   Never put off until tomorrow what you can avoid altogether.

10.  TEAMWORK  means never having to take all the blame yourself.

11.  The beatings will continue until morale improves.

12.  Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large
   groups.

13.  We waste time, so you don't have to.

14.  Hang in there, retirement is only 50 years away!

15.  Never criticize someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes;
   that way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away AND you have
   their shoes!

16.  A snooze button is a poor excuse for no alarm clock at all.

17.  When the going gets tough, the tough take a coffee break.

18.  INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY.

19.  Succeed in spite of management.

20.. Aim Low, Reach your Goals, Avoid Disappointment.



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[CTRL] Albright lobbies for Iraq human shield at UN

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: Albright lobbies for Iraq human shield at UN
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:10:05 -0500 (CDT)

Albright lobbies for Iraq human shield at UN

United Nations: Sept 21 (South News) US Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright insisted Monday that any easing of the devastating sanctions
against Iraq must not enrich Saddam Hussein "for palaces and poison
gas"  on the eve of expected talks about Iraq at the United Nations.

"The Baghdad regime has tried hard to silence the Iraqi people and to
hide the evidence of its crimes against them," Albright said in a
statement. Her comments seem to come in reply to the senior United
Nations official in Baghdad who called on Sunday for an immediate and
unconditional lifting of many sanctions that would open the way to
bigger flows of food, medicine and most other Iraqi imports.

In an impassioned call about the dangers of "using the human shield" in
hopes of coaxing Iraqi concessions on arms issues Hans von Sponek,
United Nations Humanitarian Coordinator for Iraq said on Sunday,
"Please remove the humanitarian discussions from the rest in order to
really end a silent human tragedy."

On the opening day of the annual U.N. General Assembly session,
Albright met in her hotel room with a group of Iraqi opposition
leaders, financed to lobby other countries about the Iraq sanctions as
part of President Clinton $97 million that Congress earmarked for
supporting efforts within Iraq to topple the current government

"This courageous group, visiting New York for the opening of the
General Assembly, has shown that Saddam has failed." She said the
dissidents "told me of the regime's continuing daily oppression against
all those Iraqis still subject to Baghdad's control. ."

Foreign ministers of the five Security Council permanent members,
meanwhile, are to meet for talks on a possible suspension of the
embargo on the sidelines of the General Assembly.

France, Russia and China, among the five permanent Security Council
members, have been sympathetic to Iraq's contention that its Government
has essentially carried out its obligations to the weapons inspectors.
Those Governments now appear to support a plan that would allow an
immediate end to the sanctions in return for Iraq's agreement to a new
and less intrusive system of weapons inspection.

But the United States and Britain, which believe that Iraq may still be
concealing an illicit weapons program, have argued for tougher terms.
Together with the Netherlands, Britain has called for a plan that would
allow only a moderate easing of the sanctions -- and only after a test
period of several months that would be intended to gauge Iraq's
cooperation with a new inspection regime.

Foreign Minister Mohammad Said al-Sahhaf travelled to New York on
Sunday to argue Iraq's case at the UN General Assembly for a lifting of
the sanctions which Baghdad says have cost more than one million
lives.

Last week Iraqi Foreign Minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahhaf presided over
the Arab League meeting, marking the first time Iraq had taken the
chair since the Gulf war. Speaking at the close of the league's two-day
meeting here, Esmat Abdel-Meguid, the Arab League's secretary general,
said Arab states would like to see the lifting of U.N. sanctions.

Hans von Sponek, said a dispute over plans to revive international
weapons inspections in Iraq now posed increasing risks to the social
fabric in a country that has already borne more than nine years of
United Nations sanctions.

"Don't play the battle on the backs of the civilian population by
letting them wait until the more complex issues are resolved," Sponek,
a German who is the United Nations Humanitarian Coordinator for Iraq,
said in an interview.

Sponek and his predecessor, Denis Halliday, have long tried to turn
international attention toward the suffering of ordinary Iraqis, even
as the United States and Britain have focused on the intransigence of
the Iraqi Government, and blamed that Government for the travails of
its citizens.

Sponek, the United Nations representative, has responsibility only for
humanitarian issues, and not the arms inspections. But even among those
who disagree about weapons inspection, he noted, there is a consensus
that ordinary Iraqis have suffered under the embargo; all, he argued,
should move now to halt what he called their "continuing deprivation."

Pointing to increases in crime, including prostitution, and the
deteriorating quality of education, Sponek said he believed that Iraq
should be given broad latitude to import any goods that did not also
have military use.

Iraq's health authorities said Sunday that 7,632 children under the age
of five died in August as a result of shortages of food and medicines
caused by the sanctions, the Iraqi News Agency said.

It said the children died of diarrhea, pneumonia, breathing problems
and malnutrition, compared

[CTRL] KLA reborn after "dissolution"

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: KLA reborn after "dissolution"
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:22:42 -0500 (CDT)

BBC:Tuesday, September 21, 1999 Published at 10:35 GMT 11:35 UK

KLA deal a 'milestone' for peace

Nato Secretary-General Javier Solana has hailed an agreement on the
disarming and demilitarisation of the Kosovo Liberation Army as a
"milestone for the ongoing peace implementation efforts" by the
international community in Kosovo.

The deal, signed by the Nato-led peacekeeping force and the KLA on Monday,
ended several days of deadlock over the KLA's future role in Kosovo.

The pact provides for the transformation of the KLA into a 5,000-member
Kosovo Protection Corps, under the command of the former rebel army's
leader, General Agim Ceku.

The corps will be restricted to no more than 200 weapons for guard duties.

Speaking at Nato headquarters in Brussels, Mr Solana said all the weapons
the KLA was required to hand over were now in storage sites under the
control of the K-For peacekeepers.  He warned that anyone violating
weapons bans in the province would be "dealt with severely".

The KLA was to have been disbanded at midnight on Sunday, but discussions
became deadlocked over the structure and role of the new civilian body.

KLA leaders wanted the force to be the nucleus for a new national army of
an independent Kosovo and were demanding the right for more members to be
allowed to bear arms.

But Nato insisted the corps should be a lightly-armed civil defence body
restricted to humanitarian work and disaster relief.

There were also differences over the leadership, name and insignia of the
corps.

LIMITED WEAPONS

The signing followed a day of intensive negotiations led by Nato Supreme
Commander General Wesley Clark, who flew in after the talks became
deadlocked.

The Kosovo Protection Corps will operate under the supervision of the
commander of K-For.

"KLA personnel will cease wearing uniforms and KLA insignia from midnight
on 21 September," a K-For statement said.

"A limited number of weapons will be available for personal protection and
the number of weapons available to KPC personnel responsible for guarding
and protection duties has been agreed at 200.''

The pact was signed by the KLA's political leader Hashim Thaci, Gen Ceku,
UN special representative Bernard Kouchner and K-For leader General
Michael Jackson.

During the deadlock, Gen Jackson had warned that the KLA's refusal to
accept the civilian corps plan could threaten Kosovo's future.

'VIRTUAL ANTIQUES'

Under a phased 90-day disarmament process signed in June, it was agreed
that the majority of KLA troops would return to civilian life, that
uniforms would be removed and weapons handed in.

Gen Jackson said the disarmament of the KLA was complete, with more than
10,000 weapons turned in to peacekeepers.

However, it is unclear whether this constitutes the total number held by
the rebels. Many of the weapons which reporters have seen at collection
centres are in poor condition or virtual antiques.

A BBC correspondent in Kosovo says what remains to be seen is how well the
deal will be received by Serbia and Russia.



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[CTRL] UN forces in E Timor dig in as militias refuse to give up

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: UN forces in E Timor dig in as militias refuse to give up
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:15:51 -0500 (CDT)

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Subject: AFP: UN forces in E Timor dig in, as militias refuse to give up

Peacekeepers in East Timor dig in, as militias refuse to give up

DILI, East Timor, Sept 20 (AFP) - Hundreds of multinational peacekeepers
Monday dug in for their first night in the East Timor capital of Dili, as
the
militias which laid waste to the city signalled they had not given up the
fight against independence.

More than 1,000 heavily-armed troops, most from Australia and New Zealand,
with a cutting edge of combat-honed Gurkhas, took up positions at key points
in the city, its port and airport, with night-goggles and rifles at the
ready.

Their unopposed dawn arrival, with the troops chatting with Indonesian army
soldiers at Dili's Comoro airport, appeared to signal the beginning of the
end of Indonesia's brutal quarter-century occupation of the territory, which
has left an estimated 200,000 dead.

In a briefing at the end of the day, the spokesman for the Indonesian East
Timor Martial Law Command, Lieutenant Colonel Willem Rampangilei, said a
total of 1,190 soldiers from at least six countries had arrived by dusk.

The number would rise to 2,500 in the next few days, he said.

But the militia, apparently all but bannished from the capital they
ransacked, said in messages through Indonesian media that they had regrouped
just inside the border to defend the unity of Indonesia.

"We will not attack the UN peacekeeping troops," the deputy chairman of the
newly-named National Unity Front (FPB), Joao da Silva Tavares, told the SCTV
private Indonesian television from the town of Balibo.

However, Tavares said the group sought to defend "our territory," and the
official FPB declaration swore to "defend the wholeness of the Unitary State
of the Republic of Indonesia and free East Timor from the chains of
neo-colonialism and the grips of new colonialists."

But in Dili for the new arrivals, sweating in full combat gear, it was a
city
with, in the words of one United Nations officer: "No food, no water, no
nothing," but the charred remains of the miltia rampage which avenged the
78.5 percent vote for independence on August 30.

Major General Peter Cosgrove, the Australian commander of the International
Force for East Timor (Interfet), said his troops met no resistance.

"This can be seen as an arrival rather than some sort of aggressive military
deployment." But he added the city was "still, from my point of view, a
pretty risky environment."

In the only reported encounter as they patrolled the streets on foot and in
armoured personnel carriers, soldiers from New Zealand stopped a man riding
a
motorbike and confiscated his home-made rifle without any fuss.

Interfet is charged with restoring security in East Timor, bringing aid to
hundreds of thousands of desperate refugees driven out of its towns and
cities by the militias, and upholding the independence vote.

Indonesia's martial law commander, Major General Kiki Syahnakri, sent by
Jakarta after some troops here openly collaborated with the militia in their
two-week spree of murder and destruction, has said he will hand over control
to Cosgrove by the end of the week.

"The withdrawal of troops is proceeding," Syahnakri said.

Monday's air deployment was expected to be followed at dawn Tuesday by the
arrival of warships in Dili to unload bulky equipment including more
armoured
vehicles.

While the militia gangs seemed to have virtually disappeared from Dili,
several hundred of the thousands of refugees they chased out of their homes
were still living in squalor among ruined buildings and along the harbour.

Barefoot children wandered along the bay as Indonesian naval vessels
prepared
to ship them and their families to Kupang, in neighbouring West Timor
clearing the area for the arriving troops.

A small contingent of US marines travelled with Cosgrove's approval to
explore the possibility of moving some of the troops to Baucau, 115
kilometres (70 miles) east of here, to ease congestion at Dili's airport.

However, there was no indication how soon the peacekeepers would spread out
through the rest of the territory, where up to 190,000 refugees, many sick
and starving, were believed to have fled.

About 200,000 others had crossed the border to Indonesian West Timor to
escape the violence.

In Darwin, a spokesman for East Timorese resistance leader Xanana Gusmao
said
he had begun steps to set up a government in exile in Australia and intended
to appeal to the World Bank for help for the impoverished territory.

And in Jakarta, the Australian embassy continued to pay the price o

[CTRL] Colombia's Pastrana against foreign intervention, trusts FARC leader

1999-09-23 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: Colombia's Pastrana against foreign intervention, trusts FARC
leader
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:09:46 -0500 (CDT)

Tuesday, 21 September 1999

Colombia's Pastrana against foreign
 intervention, trusts FARC leader
---

By Ana Maria Echeverria

UNITED NATIONS -- Colombian President Andres Pastrana told the United
Nations that he vehemently opposes foreign intervention in his country
regardless of the pretext, an allusion to talk about foreign soldiers
going in to quell ongoing violence.

Talk has swirled in the region about a multinational military force of
Latin nations, coordinated by the United States, entering Colombia to
stop the seemingly endless violence between the government, the three
Marxist rebel groups, right-wing paramilitaries and drug lords.

Citing an increase in the drug trade, the United States has increased its
assistance to the Colombian military over the past months.

Yet Pastrana, speaking to the 54th UN General Assembly on Monday, even
reaffirmed his trust in Manuel "Sureshot" Marulanda, the leader of the
largest and best-armed rebel group, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of
Colombia (FARC).

The violence in Colombia took a turn for the worse when peace talks
between Pastrana's government and the FARC broke down when the rebels
refused a government demand for an international force to monitor
activity in the Switzerland-sized demilitarized zone under FARC control.

Pastrana reminded the General Assembly that "one of the sacred bases" of
the UN charter is the obligation of states "to not intervene directly or
indirectly in affairs of other nations."

At times Pastrana seemed to be reacting to Secretary General Kofi Annan's
speech earlier in the day, in which Annan said the United Nations must
intervene over the rights of sovereign states when necessary to protect
civilians from war and mass slaughter.

Annan, drawing on lessons in Rwanda and Kosovo, told the Assembly that
its "core challenge" in the 21st century is "to forge unity behind the
principle that massive and systematic violations of human rights --
wherever they occur -- should not be allowed to stand."

Pastrana was not swayed, at least when it came to Colombia.

"International peace is based on the sovereignty of the member countries,"
he told the General Assembly.

In a press conference after his speech, Pastrana said he continued to
believe that FARC leader Marulanda was still committed to peace.

"I believe in Marulanda's word, and I expect it to be fulfilled,"
Pastrana said. Despite the setbacks "we have advanced more in the past
months (towards peace) than in the previous 15 years," he said.

The FARC said in a statement Sunday that an alleged alliance between
Pastrana and the US government to fight the rebels casts doubt on
Colombia's peace efforts.

Pastrana's alliance with the United States to intensify the war  against
the FARC, "which has been disguised as an attempt to fight drug
trafficking ... casts doubt on the government's intentions for peace,"
the rebel group said in the statement.

Pastrana, however, insisted that he wanted to talk peace, and  that he
was against any kind of foreign intervention regardless of the pretext.

"Colombia will accept no type of foreign intervention," Pastrana bluntly
told reporters.

Top US officials have also repeatedly denied plans to militarily
intervene in Colombia.

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Re: [CTRL] Contact Lost with Mars Probe

1999-09-23 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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>NASA Loses Contact With Mars Probe

The Royal Martian Airforce strikes yet again  :)

Andrew


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[CTRL] Exposing the Rabin Assassination

1999-09-23 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Exposing the Rabin Assassination

http://www.sightings.com/politics4/rabin_p.htm

Barry Chamish with the full story.


Nicky

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #4

1999-09-23 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990923d - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Not many alien abductees were painfully probed to produce this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ National Atlas of the United States: http://www.nationalatlas.gov/
@ The Mourning Muse: http://members.aol.com/anissamoon/muse.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Las Vegas honors mag with "Soldier of Fortune Day". The magazine's founder
  was thrilled to be honored. "I was surprised and gratified that the mayor
  & the city of Las Vegas had the intestinal fortitude to be so politically
  incorrect," he said. "Usually we end up battling govt'l entities rather
  than receiving their accolades. This is truly amazing and gratifying."
  http://www.lvrj.com/lvrj_home/1999/Sep-23-Thu-1999/news/12008881.html
@ Visit the Soldier of Fortune magazine Website: http://www.sofmag.com/

: Do you honor/worship/practice mercenary militarism? Are you mercenary? Are
you paid to kill? Would you kill anyway? Is killing gratifying, profitable?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Spanish find centuries-old ice. MADRID (AP) - Scientists studying global
  climate changes say they've made a startling find - centuries-old ice in
  sunny south Spain. Permafrost in the Sierra Nevada peaks of Andalusia:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561291589-054

# Frosty Mars 'mountain' poses mystery. (CNN) -- A patch of frost near Mars
  south polar cap caught the eye of an Ohio astronomer 150 years ago staring
  through a telescope at the red planet. Developers now plan an extensive
  ski resort complex: http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/22/mars.mountains/

: Would you rather ski the Alps, Mars, Spain, Europa? What's your fave frost
patch? Will global warming destroy all permafrost on Earth? Do ETs want it?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# China to try banned sect publishers. BEIJING (AP) China plans to prosecute
  at least 10 publishers of books/materials on an outlawed meditation group
  before putting leading members of the popular sect on trial. The 10 have
  been charged with illegal business & selling illegal publications. China
  passed new laws to tighten control over all forms of qigong - the widely
  practiced slow-motion exercises on which the Falun Gong movement is partly
  based. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561291270-f45

: Has your sect been banned lately? Have you banned any sects? Is your sect
in a death-struggle? Are slo-motion exercises subversive, revolutionary? Eh?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ THE ANSWER: Hypothesis of a Theory of Everything. The universe, from the
  smallest to largest unit, is a quantum probability based fractal illusion.
  All matter exists in 3-dimensional space, both internal & external. Any
  grouping can be considered a fractal space. It is both real & imaginary
  at the same time acting according to Euler's equation:   {e^i x pi}+1=0
  More useful in this instance is the general form:
   e^ix = -1=cos x + i sin x = -tan 45 deg
  which allows use of a variable where Pi, a constant, is used in the orig-
  inal. The key to understanding multi-dimensional space time is the reali-
  zation that Pi is a variable! Pi as we know it is the lock on 3D space.
  Figure it out:  http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~uther/sprg/letter16.htm

: Why isn't a hypersphere with a radius of the square root of negative one
included in these calculations? Doesn't its 6D projection subsume 3D space?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Native Americans tour Israel gov't. JERUSALEM (AP)  A delegation of Native
  Americans, some wearing feathered headdresses and others carrying drums,
  toured the Israeli parliament. Tribal leaders greeted Speaker Avraham Burg
  with a drum salute, accompanied by singing and dancing. Burg tried on a
  gift headdress & pounded a drum. Trying to keep unruly Israeli legislators
  in line: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561292758-d23

: Are the Mormons right, that Native Americans are really the Lost Tribes of
Israel? Does this alliance constitute an Israeli 5th column in the US? Will
the Amerind/Hebrew axis strike from within? Are you ready for this perfidy?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# UFO Roundup. V-SHAPED UFO WATCHED BY HUNDREDS IN MEXICO - UFOs SPOTTED
  TWICE IN WISCONSIN - THREE UFOs SIGHTED NEAR MUNISING, MICHIGAN - LARGE
  DAYLIGHT SAUCER SEEN IN OZARK, MISSOURI - WOMAN SEES A UFO IN DANDRIDGE,
  TENNESSEE - SPORTSFISHERMEN SEE UFO IN PANAMA - METALLIC SPHERE UFO
  SIGHTED IN SOUTH WALES - CROP CIRCLES POP UP IN SASKATCHEWAN - Y2K:
  WISCONSIN READIES STATE COMMAND POST - 1977: THE HUDSON SAILS AGAIN!
  http://ufoinfo.com/roundup/v04/rnd04_22.html

: Have you rounded up any UFOs lately? Have you sprayed RoundUp(TM) on any
UFOs lately? Did the occupants object, squirm, gag, die? Do crop circles pop
up in your neighborhood regularly? Do they make a popping 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [FP] FW: IMPORTANT re: National ID]

1999-09-23 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Original Message 
Subject: [FP] FW: IMPORTANT re: National ID
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:31:04 -0500
From: "ScanThisNews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Update on National ID status:

Following is an update from Ron Paul's office on the status of the
effort in
Congress to repeal section 656 of Public Law 104-208, the Illegal
Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, (IIRIRA).
This
is the law which mandates that, after October 1, 2000, federal agencies
may
not accept for identification purposes any document that does not
conform to
the standardization guidelines which are to be established by the
Department
of Transportation in conjunction with the American Association of Motor
Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA). The mandatory requirements include the
inclusion of social security numbers on the ID document application and
other nondescript security features intended to prevent duplication and
fraud. According to AAMVA publications, the intention is to ultimately
require some form of biometric identification such as a fingerprint.

The implementing regulations have already been drafted and were
published in
the Federal Register for the required public comment period (which was
first
announced by ScanThisNews the day they was published), but they were
withdrawn when the DOT received a large amount of public objections.

More on the history can be found here:

http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page1/fp-dot-money-withheld.html

And, excerpts from the law itself can be found here (scan down to
section
656):
http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page2/fp-104-208-immigration.html

Finally, although I encourage everyone to do as is suggested below,
contact
your representative, please remember that when the time rolls around
when
this law is slated to go into effect, nearly all of the states will have
already complied with all of the standardization guidelines. A
state-by-state accounting of this trend is available here:

http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page4/fp-04-page4-winners-losers.html

Scott

Now, here's the update from Congressman Ron Paul's office:

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From: "Singleton, Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:Important Info. re; national ID
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:00:27 -0400

The Senate Transportation Appropriations contains language repealing
Section 656 (b) of the 1996 Immigration Act, which established the
National
ID card. If this language is in the House-Senate conference that comes
out
of the House, the attempt to turn drivers' licenses into a national ID
card
will be dead!

People who contact their conferees should ask them to make sure the
conference report has the Senate's 656 (b) repeal language.

House Conferees on Transportation Appropriations are:

 Republicans:
 CW Young (FL-10)
 Frank Wolf (VA-10)
 Tom Delay (TX-22)
 Ralph Regula (OH-16)
 Harold Rogers (KY-5)
 Ron Packard (CA-04)
 Sonny Callahan (AL-01)
 Todd Tiahrt (KS-04)
 Robert Aderholt (AL-04)
 Kay Granger (TX-12)

 Democrat:
 David Obey (WI-07)
 Martin Olav Sabo (MN-05)
 John W. Olver (MA-01)
 Ed Pastor (AZ-02)
 Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-15)
 Jose Serrano (NY-16)
 Michael Forbes (NY-01)

 Senate Conferees:

 Republicans:

 Ted Stevens (AK)
 Richard Shelby (AL)
 Pete Dominic (NM)
 Arlen Specter (PA)
 Kit Bond (MO)
 Slade Gorton (WA)
 Robert Bennett (UT)
 Ben Campbell (CO)


 Democrats:
 Frank Lautenberg (NJ)
 Robert Byrd (WV)
 Barbara Milkulski (MD)
 Harry Reid(NV)
 Herb Kohl (WI)
 Patty Murray (WA)

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[CTRL] HateWatch News and Updates (fwd)

1999-09-23 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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HateWatch Updates - http://hatewatch.org

**Did you know...**
"The term scapegoat originated in the famous ritual of the Hebrews,
described in the Book of Leviticus (16:20-22). On the day of Atonement a
live goat was chosen by lot. The high priest, robed in linen garments,
laid both his hands on the goat's head, and confessed over it the
iniquities of the children of Israel. The sins of the people thus
symbolically transferred to the beast, it was taken out into the
wilderness and let go. The people felt purged, and for the time being,
guiltless." - (The Nature of Prejudice by Gordon W. Allport, p.244)


HateWatch News for Septmeber 23, 1999

**Bomb explodes on Florida black college campus**
A bomb exploded in a restroom at Florida A&M University Wednesday, the
second explosion at the historically black college in less than a month,
but no one was injured. University authorities said law enforcement
officials were investigating the bombing as a possible hate crime.
http://news.excite.com/news/r/990922/18/fl-crime-bomb

**Fatal assault on gay man goes to jury**
Prosecutors insist that Edgard Mora is guilty of murder and a hate crime
for the 1998 death of a gay man outside a South of Market leather bar.
Mora's attorney claims the charges are "politically
motivated." The jury heard both sides of the story one more time in
closing arguments on Tuesday, then retired to consider a verdict.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/stories/22/mora.dtl

**Argentina candidates denounce desecration at Jewish cemetery**
Jewish leaders in Argentina are warning that recent vandalism at a Jewish
cemetery near Buenos Aires should not be used as a tool in the country's
presidential campaign. The comments came after vandals desecrated 63 tombs
at the Cemetery of La Tablada, which has been the target of similar
attacks in the past, the most recent in December 1997. Carlos Menem,
Argentina's president, called the attack ``an act to be condemned in every
sense.''
http://www.jta.org/sep99/21-ceme.htm

**Who Owns the N-Word Dot Com?**
No, the domain is not owned by the Ku Klux Klan, or Aryan Nations, or any
other hate group, for that matter. Nigger.com is property of the National
Association for the Advancement of Colored People. In fact, the NAACP says
it owns every domain with variations of that word, including hyphenated
versions.
http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/21873.html

**Revival of extreme right-wing group  conjures fears of neo-fascism in
Italy**
The announcement by an extreme right-wing leader here that he will revive
his illegal hate group next month has renewed concerns about public
displays of neo-Nazi sentiments.  Maurizio Boccacci, Rome's most prominent
ultraright-wing leader, told La Repubblica newspaper that he plans to
relaunch his Movimento Politico on Oct. 28, despite a government ban on
its operation.
http://www.jta.org/sep99/22-bocc.htm

**California Students face hate crime charges**
Four middle schools students made plans to bring weapons to school and
attack a group of Armenian students, police said.  The Wilson Middle
School students face pre-expulsion hearings and are also scheduled to
appear in Pasadena Juvenile Court on Nov. 15 on a state charge of
conspiracy to commit civil rights violations, Glendale Police spokesman
Chahe Keuroghelian said Tuesday.
http://www.latimes.com/excite/990922/tCB0056964.html


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[CTRL] Manifesto Destiny (fwd)

1999-09-23 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:15:00
 Manifesto destiny: the enduring sexiness of Karl Marx.
   by Jeremy Smith

  "The longer I spend on Wall Street, the more convinced I am that Marx was
right."
  - Stockbroker quoted in "The Return of Karl Marx," by John Cassidy, The New
Yorker, Oct. 20-27, 1997
  In 1999, why should we read the Communist Manifesto? If we should read the
Manifesto, then how should we read it?
  Before I try to answer those questions, let me ask another: Have you ever
read the Bible? I've read the Old Testament and sections of the New. The Good
Book does contain spasms of sad beauty: the story of Eden, the destruction of
Sodom, the song of Solomon, and the betrayal of Christ by his disciples, to
name a few. But let's face it: Most of the Bible is written in the most turgid
style imaginable, built on endless lists, archaic references, and pointless
repetition.
  When I ride the Boston subway every morning, who do you think I see reading
that difficult text, the Bible? Professors? Lawyers? Software engineers? No.
  By and large, those reading that hoary book are women on their way to work
as cleaning ladies, retail clerks, and secretaries. Even without formal
education to ease the Bible's difficult language, most Christians I know
recreate its stories and ideas from within their lived experience - a
profoundly creative and social activity. They do not struggle with the Bible
and other religious texts in isolation. They have study groups, Sunday
schools, weekly sermons, priests, ministers, rabbis, and mass media. Entire
movements, communities, and nations have arisen from the soil they till.
  Which brings us back to the Communist Manifesto, 150 years young as of 1998.
Published by two twenty-somethings named Marx and Engels in 1848, the
Manifesto has sold nearly as many copies as the Bible - and it's a much better
read.
  As the millennium ends, the Manifesto is sexy again. Verso's coffee table
edition sells like hotcakes. The Manifesto is favorably quoted in a Star Trek
episode in which alien employees organize a labor union, and by rebellious
worker ants in the film Antz. Academic, free-market economists frequently
quote the Manifesto and rank Marx among the great prophets of capitalism.
  As John Cassidy writes in The New Yorker. "[Marx] wrote riveting passages
about globalization, inequality, political corruption, monopolization,
technical progress ... issues that economists are now confronting anew,
sometimes without realizing that they are walking in Marx's footsteps."
  Of course, the recognition of the Manifesto's importance comes with a very
important, highly ritualized caveat: Marx was right about capitalism, but
wrong about the alternative. Indeed, say the modern bourgeoisie, we live in
the best of all possible worlds.
  Are they right to say so? This is not an idle question. Before capitalism,
incomes doubled every 630 years. From the advent of the first industrial
revolution until today, incomes have multiplied 10 times in Great Britain, 18
in the United States, and an astonishing 25 in Japan. Life expectancy grew,
while communication became instantaneous and transportation cheap and fast.
Agriculture developed the capacity to feed the world (even if politics and the
market held it back from doing so), and economies began to suffer from an
absurd predicament: crises of overproduction.
  In short, capitalism eradicated scarcity. But at a well-documented price:
decimated cultures, deracinated populations, astounding inequality, a damaged
environment, and famines and wars without end, on a scale without precedent.
  Marx predicted this, of course. Communism is predicated on the success of
capitalism, and the bloody contradictions that its success would entail. Those
who work for a living, he argued, would supplant the power of those who live
by owning, to create a society based on equality, cooperation, and production
for use instead of profit.
  But somehow, miserably, slowly, the credibility of Marx's alternative has
been chipped away. Capitalism has not, as Marx predicted, "simplified the
class antagonisms," with "two great classes directly facing each other:
Bourgeoisie and Proletariat." Rather, society atomized into a hundred
contending subcultures and occupations, each of its members identifying with a
consumer niche instead of a "class." The "advanced proletariats" of the USA
and western Europe did not revolutionize the means of production, but instead
plunked down in front of the TV, beer in hand, to watch the peasants of Asia,
Africa, and Latin America wage nationalist wars against their colonial
oppressors, and then against each other.
  Millions have died, and yet in no country has a worker's paradise come into
being, the very violence of its birth precluding the technological,
industrial, civil, and moral basis of a "good societ

[CTRL] Everyone's getting rich! (fwd)

1999-09-23 Thread William Hugh Tunstall

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-- Forwarded message --

 Everyone's getting rich! And other common sense. by
   Bob Harris


  Everyone's Getting Rich!
  Or so screams the cover of Money magazine's May issue.
  On which planet, Money doesn't specify.
  Beneath the headline stands an upper-class white couple wearing blue and red
- literally embodying the American flag, intentionally or not - on a lawn,
crudely retouched into a literal field of green.
  The clear message: if you're not getting rich, you're an un-American loser.
But not to worry: inside are Money's top 10 recommended stock investments.
  None of which will help much if you don't have tens of thousands of dollars
lying around to invest.
  So who, pray tell, does common sense tell you "Everyone" is?
  I'm driving down LaBrea in Hollywood with two friends a few months ago (I'll
call them Larry and Moe). In the course of a discussion of President Clinton's
shockingly steady popularity, one of them attributes it - as is common - to
the terrific economy.
  So I respond that the economy isn't terrific at all. As a matter of fact, it
sucks.
  (I'm a lot less articulate when I'm bonding with my male friends.)
  My friends express shock at such heresy.
  Larry is an honors graduate of Georgetown University who, despite his
education and effort, still struggles with two part-time jobs and barely gets
by. Moe is an actor who, after years of pavement-pounding, finally landed a
small, recurring role in "Buff), The Vampire Slayer," putting him in the upper
2% of income earners in his profession, which means he can afford a
one-bedroom apartment. Moe also qualifies for health insurance through his
union, a luxury the vast majority of other members don't receive because they
don't make enough money.
  Even where we are - a relatively nice part of town - homeless people with
shopping carts sit hopelessly in bus shelters near almost every stoplight. On
our left, we'll soon pass a grocery store well-known for union-busting. On our
right, we're approaching a McDonald's whose counter staff has worked 60 years
for something close to minimum wage.
  If we hang a left and drive a bit, we'll pass the closed gates of several
small specialty stores, followed by a strip mall anchored by the big, boxy
building supply store that drove the smaller stores out of business. Outside
the big box on weekday mornings, you can often see poor men, many with
families, lining up, hoping maybe a contractor buying supplies will hire them
as day laborers with no benefits or security.
  All of which is in plain sight.
  And still my intelligent, good-hearted, well-educated friends need a lengthy
explanation.
  A recent Louis Harris poll discovered that only about half of all American
adults can answer even the simplest economic questions. Here, try one:
  If the price of beef doubled and the price of poultry stayed the same,
people would most likely buy:
  A. More poultry and less beef. B. Less poultry and more beef C. The same
amount of poultry and beef.
  (If you need me to tell you the answer, please remove your wallet, proceed
to the nearest public space, and begin hurling ali your cash at total
strangers. You probably already do this every day without realizing it.)
  Given 20 such questions, less than a third of Americans scored a C or
better.
  Half of the adults and two-thirds of the high school students received an F.
  Here's some other stuff not enough people understand, the results of decades
of policies and laws designed to benefit Money's concept of Everyone at the
expense of everyone else:
  In the 1970s, the top 1% of households had about 20% of the national wealth.
This was widely considered excessive. Today, the percentage of wealth they
control is over 40% and climbing.
  Thirty years ago, about 10% of American households were broke, with a net
worth of zero or less. Fifteen years ago, that number was about 15%. Today the
number is almost 20%.
  Most Americans have a lower net worth than they did 15 years ago, when this
greatest stock market rally in history began. The bottom two-fifths of
households have lost about 80% of their average net worth. The middle fifth
has lost about 11%. The richest 1% of America owns more wealth than the entire
bottom 95% combined, and the inequality is increasing.
  Twenty years ago, a typical big-time corporate CEO was paid about 40 times
what an average worker received. CEOs today are paid almost 420 times as much.
Jack Welch, the GE CEO who eliminated 128,000 jobs, is paid $83.6 million
annually.
  Meanwhile, after what economists will soon call the longest economic
expansion in U.S. history, 20% of all American children now grow up in
poverty.
  And Money can write "Everyone's Getting Rich!" in giant letters across the
cover.
  We hear the idea so frequently these days - often expressed by corporate
media pundits with six- and seven-figure inco

[CTRL] Vojvodina

1999-09-23 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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>From www.bhhrg.org/serbia/serbia1999-3.htm

> A post-war visit to Novi Sad
>
> Yugoslavia’s second city, Novi Sad, was repeatedly bombed during NATO’s 78
> day-long air campaign. Its three bridges across the Danube were destroyed early
> in the war but the bombing of economic targets in and around the city continued
> throughout the conflict. Novi Sad is both the most ethnically diverse city in
> Central Europe and the Balkans and the capital of Serbia’s northern province of
> Vojvodina with its significant Hungarian minority. Since 1996 the majority of
> its city council has been composed of opponents of President Milosevic’s
> Socialist Party. Novi Sad’s status as a multi-cultural city run by opponents of
> President Milosevic made NATO’s repeated attacks incomprehensible to many of its
> citizens.
>
> At the start of August, 1999, two members of the British Helsinki Human Rights
> Group visited Novi Sad. Their aim was to assess the economic, political and
> medical effects of the NATO bombing of the city. They met with representatives
> of the Red Cross, several political parties, the mayor of Novi Sad, and with the
> press and information Minister of the City council. They also visited sites that
> had been damaged or destroyed by NATO bombing as well as met with refugees from
> Kosovo and the director of Novi Sad's main hospital.
>
> Introduction
>
> War damage
>
> Political repercussions
>
> Hungarian political parties and the question of autonomy
>
> Refugees
>
> Conclusion
>
>
>
> The publications of the British Helsinki Human Rights Group do not express a
> corporate view. The Group is, however, grateful to the authors of its reports.
> Any views or recommendations expressed in the Group's reports are those of their
> authors alone.
>
> First published: 19 August 1999

> Introduction
>
> The city of Novi Sad and the province of Vojvodina have had a chequered history.
> After the Habsburgs conquered the area on the Ottoman Empire at the end of the
> 17th century Emperor Leopold promised the Serbian subjects of the Ottoman Empire
> that their rights would not be curtailed under his rule. In order to urge them
> to rise against the Ottomans he, therefore, promised that the Serbs would be
> allowed to continue to elect their leaders, or voivods. Hence the name
> Vojvodina. As part of the Hungarian Kingdom under the Habsburgs, the Slavic
> majority in fact suffered discrimination especially after 1867 when Hungarian
> self-rule effectively excluded non-Magyar rights. The area became part of the
> new Yugoslav Kingdom in 1918 after the collapse of the Habsburg empire at the
> end of the First World War. After German-Hungarian occupation in the Second
> World War, Vojvodina was made a showcase of minority rights Communist-style
> under Tito’s regime. Like Kosovo, the Vojvodina gained autonomous status under
> the 1974 constitution and - again like Kosovo - lost effective autonomy in 1989
> (though as with Kosovo it should be remembered that the autonomy between 1974
> and 1989 was for local Communist leaders and not in any sense pluralistic).
>
> The province is often seen as a potential future flashpoint because of its
> ethnic make-up. After the many wars and population expulsions in the former
> Yugoslavia Vojvodina is now the most ethnically mixed area in the former
> Yugoslavia. Both because other areas have been 'ethnically cleansed' and because
> the Vojvodina has absorbed some 300.000 refugees from all over Yugoslavia. Many
> different nationalities inhabit the province such as Romanians, Slovaks and
> Croats. The population of the small town of Beocin is said to contain 28
> different nationalities.
>
> But those who fear further ethnic strife point a the sizeable Hungarian minority
> in the province. It is often assumed that the Hungarians - similar to the
> Albanians of Kosovo - want autonomy or even secession from the remainder of
> Yugoslavia. However, such a simple comparison between Kosovo and Vojvodina is
> misleading. Hungarians make up only 16% of the total population of the province,
> whilst Serbs account for 60%. Most Hungarians live in the north of the province;
> the Hungarian population of the capital Novi Sad accounts for 8 percent.
>
> On the other hand, it seems that many in Vojvodina - not least the Serbs -
> regard themselves temperamentally different from the Serbs in the rest of the
> country. Often, this is explained as a result of Habsburg rule. Aleksander
> Ivkovac, member of the local council told BHHRG observers: " I call myself a
> Vojvodinian".
>
> In general, most people BHHRG observers spoke with showed a dislike for the
> government of Slobodan Milosevic but at the same time hated NATO for bombing
> their city. In only one case did a man refuse to talk, saying he was still to
> angry with NATO and the West. His demeanour was not threatening, however. Most
> people were very hospitable and willing to express their views. Nobody could
> understan

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3

1999-09-23 Thread Ric Carter

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- Original Message -
From: Tatman, Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I presume Rev. Castleberry is a Presleyterian.
>
> > # IMPERSONATOR PREACHES IN THE CHURCH OF ELVIS. Rev. David Castleberry
> >   loves shaking his hips at the altar while he does his Elvis thing.

And probably a Frisbeeterian too - always stuck on the roof.  But if
Elvis has left the building because he was abducted by aliens, and if
Whitley Streiber saw Elvis in the UFO the last time he [Whit] was
taken/probed, and if Pat Buchanan is really Elvis' identical twin
who supposedly died at birth but was actually taken by the Greys and
raised/nurtured/programmed at an Antarctic Nazi UFO base, then where
does Donald Trump fit in?

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[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Bush: Stop Buchanan ...Novak - Buchanan Strikes Fear into GOP

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Brigade,

"...A Bush operative indirectly contacted Ventura...to see whether he might
contest Buchanan for the fledgling party's nomination The word back to
Austin was that Ventura would seek another candidate but might "consider"
running himself, if nobody else is availableWith Republican assumptions
that pro-choice Perot never could embrace pro-life Buchanan now shattered,
Republicans count on Ventura to save them...That leaves Ventura agents
talking to real estate-casino tycoon Donald Trump...The Manhattan
dealmaker seems a bad match with Perot's party, but he may be the GOP's
last hope to stop Buchanan."

GO PAT GO!!!
Linda

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From:   "Jackson, Glenn R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Linda Muller' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:Bob Novak column
Date sent:  Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:33:02 -0400

Linda, Another good column.  I'm fired up!
Glenn

-

Buchanan strikes fear into GOP

September 16, 1999

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Even before Pat Buchanan burned his bridges on NBC's Meet the Press
Sunday, front-runner George W. Bush's strategists had given up on talking
him out of bolting the GOP. They now concentrate on keeping the Reform
Party presidential nomination from Buchanan, and that leads them to St.
Paul, Minn., and Gov. Jesse Ventura.

A Bush operative indirectly contacted Ventura, the nation's only major
officeholder elected under the Reform banner, to see whether he might
contest Buchanan for the fledgling party's nomination. The word back to
Austin was that Ventura would seek another candidate but might "consider"
running himself, if nobody else is available. If Buchanan is nominated, he
also has indicated privately, he might leave the Reform Party and take his
followers with him.

Bush's presidential express, encountering a Buchanan bump in the road, has
to rely on the gravel-voiced wrestler. Bush strategists believe no Reform
candidate will drain away more GOP voters than Buchanan--not even
Ventura, though he might collect a higher overall percentage.

Complacent Republicans had told themselves that good old Pat never would
leave the party of his mentors, Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, despite
years of contemptuous treatment from the party's hierarchy. Hopelessly
behind the curve, they were stunned by his description of the GOP as a
"Xerox copy" of the Democrats. Republican National Chairman Jim
Nicholson's long-sought talk with Buchanan will take place in a couple of
weeks. But if Bush himself could not persuade Buchanan to stay, how could
Nicholson?

Buchanan has all but closed the exit doors. He lunched Monday in New York
with Reform pillars Pat Choate, Ross Perot's 1996 vice-presidential running
mate, and Lenora Fulani. Washington consultant Choate long was
connected to congressional Democrats, especially House Minority Leader
Richard Gephardt. Fulani, an African-American woman, ran for president in
1988 as a left-wing independent.

Moreover, Buchanan is eyeing newly installed Teamsters chief James Hoffa
as his vice president. No offer has been tendered, but Hoffa has not said no
in advance.

What's a born-and-bred Republican like Pat Buchanan doing with the likes of
Choate, Fulani and Hoffa? The tie that unites them is opposition to free
trade,
NAFTA, GATT and the World Trade Organization. Buchanan is targeting
more than disaffected right-wing Republicans, envisioning a coalition of
losers in the global economy who want closed borders on trade and
immigration.

The last piece in the puzzle for Buchanan is Perot himself. My telephone call
to the Reform founder in Dallas was returned by Russ Verney, the party's
former national chairman, who said Perot is not giving political interviews
and
will stay neutral in the presidential selection.

But not really neutral. Choate told me: "He [Perot] certainly likes Pat
Buchanan and welcomes him." Pro-Buchanan comments from Perot
lieutenants Verney and Paul Truax, the Reform Party's southwest
coordinator, signal their chief's intentions.

Buchanan has no illusions about going around the Dallas billionaire. "This is
Ross Perot's party," Buchanan told me. They have not yet spoken to each
other, and Buchanan will not trigger a media feeding frenzy with a summit
meeting. A simple telephone call will do to get the founder's tacit blessing.


With Republican assumptions that pro-choice Perot never could embrace pro-
life Buchanan now shattered, Republicans count on Ventura to save them. It
will be difficult for Ventura to run for president two years after being
elected
governor by chastising Republican candidate Norm Coleman for seeking the
governorship one year after being re-elected mayor of St. Paul.

Apart from presidential ambitions for 2004, Ventura's views on trade--pro-
NAFTA, anti-protectionist--are described by an aide as "diametrically
opposed" to Buchanan, who is viewed by the governor as "preoccupied with
the social iss

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3

1999-09-23 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

I presume Rev. Castleberry is a Presleyterian.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ric Carter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 4:34 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3
>
>  
>
> # IMPERSONATOR PREACHES IN THE CHURCH OF ELVIS. Rev. David Castleberry
> loves
>   shaking his hips at the altar while he does his Elvis thing. He's
> credited
>   for bringing "bikers, doubters, and heavy drinkers" to church, reports
> the
>   Wichita Eagle. Getting his act together wasn't easy, the minister says.
> "I
>   studied 400 hours of video on Elvis' moves and singing style."
> http://www.wichitaeagle.com/news/local/community/neighbors/docs/castleberr
> y0
> 923_txt.htm
>


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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #3

1999-09-23 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 990923c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: No subliminal messages were spread to produce (Buy Pepsi) this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Mars probe feared destroyed. (BBC) Nasa's latest probe to Mars is almost
  certainly lost. JPL controllers say the $125m spacecraft came too close to
  the planet when it tried to manoeuvre into orbit & was probably destroyed.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_455000/455807.stm

# What loss of Mars Climate Orbiter means. (BBC) Many scientists & engineers
  face its loss with stoic resignation. Red Planet claims another victim.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_455000/455617.stm

: Who is preventing us from taking a really close look at Mars? What do they
have to hide? What alien civilizations have hidden bases on Mars? Reptoids?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES HAVE SUBTLE POWER. We've all heard the old story,
  thoroughly debunked, about subliminal advertising making people buy Coke
  and popcorn at the movies. Recent research has revealed, however, that
  subliminal messages can have some subtle impact on our attitudes and
  behavior. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17412

: Do subliminal messages reprogram you, control your thoughts/behaviors, set
you on a self-destructive path? What's your favorite subliminal message? Do
you create subliminal messages? Where do you promulgate them? Do they work?

@ WHY DO I TALK IN MY SLEEP? We can't pinpoint a cause, but anxiety is a
  suspect. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17392
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# W97M_SUPPL/TROJ_SUPPL - 163 hours until destructive payload activates.
  This new virus is distributed via e-mail in an empty Word 97 document.
  Upon opening the SUPPL.DOC file, W97M_SUPPL activates and copies itself
  to the Windows directory (as ANTHRAX.INI). Once an infected system is
  rebooted, TROJ_SUPPL spreads itself by attaching the SUPPL.DOC file to
  every outgoing message. After a system has been infected for 163 hours,
  TROJ_SUPPL runs its destructive payload, which tries to open all files
  with the DOC, XLS, TXT, RTF, DBF, ZIP, ARJ and RAR extensions and truncate
  them. http://trend.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=W97M_SUPPL

: Are you protected, infected, fucked? Have your files been destroyed yet?
Have you (un)wittingly spread this virus or others? Is virus-spreading fun?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO HAVE GERM-FREE FOOD? If you don't think we need
  irradiation to make our food supply safer, then read this account of
  salmonella infection from fresh, uncooked tomatoes. Enough to gag a
  maggot: http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17414
@ TO IRRADIATE OR NOT TO IRRADIATE ... Join the discussion at:
http://healthcentral.com/discussions/Thread.cfm?CFApp=2&Thread_ID=2519&mc=5

: If irradiating food will kill microbes, will irradiating computers destroy
virus and worm infections? Would'ya eat an irradiated computer? Is it tasty?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ GONZO JOURNALISTS. Finally, a place where incessant chatter about the
  latest Kennedy to die is unwelcome. "Real" journalists laugh in the
  face of George magazine while making wisecracks about what to do to
  the morons who post in its favor. Topics such as free speech on the
  Internet and the identification of high-profile plagiarizers keep the
  group going at a slow but steady pace. News:alt.journalism.gonzo

: How much real journalism exists in the world? How many real reports are
published/broadcast? How much journalism is disinformation? Who control the
creation/spread of media disinfo? Do you manipulate news? Are you Reptoid?

@ Pat Buchanan is an earnest isolationist, arguing that the US ought to
  have stayed out of WWI and shouldn't have fought Hitler in Europe. And
  then there are all those Jews... http://weeklystandard.com/bob_9_27.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 'URINE LUCK' - ARE DRUG TESTERS STYMIED? "Urine Luck" is just the latest
  product to appear on the Internet that claims to help you pass a urine
  drug test. Meanwhile, drug testing labs are coming up with ways to detect
  products that taint results - and developing more invasive and sensitive
  tests. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=17415

: Can you beat drug tests? Do you need to? Do your test-beating strategies
mask any ailments you may suffer from? Are drug tests worth dying for? Why?

# SHOCKER!: MOST PEOPLE WHO CALL IN SICK REALLY AREN'T!
  http://www.latimes.com/HOME/BUSINESS/t85376.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# "Gospel And Guns" group spreads message at schools. Members of the Mercy
  Seat Christian Church are handing out pro-gun fliers in the shape of
  bullets to teens at metro Milwaukee schools. "We are going out 

[CTRL] National Atlas of the United States

1999-09-23 Thread Tatman, Robert

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http://www.nationalatlas.gov/
This remarkable Web resource is an absolute (and virtually unknown)
treasure. Try selecting a particular state and check "Federal and Indian
lands", "Hazardous Waste Handler", "Superfund Sites", and "Toxic
Discharge"...

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Philadelphia Daily News.
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[CTRL] Worlds Largest Single Gold Deposit is Where??

1999-09-23 Thread earthman

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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 8:08 PM
Subject: World'sLargestSingleGoldDeposit:YouWillNeverGuessWhere


http://www.waco93.com  http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/ADL.WACO

COMMUNIQUE  #2188
-

Surprise, Surprise, SurFRIGGINprize...

Well wadda ya know...Will wonders ever cease ?

Guess where the WORLDS LARGEST SINGLE
GOLD DEPOSIT just happens to be 

Can you say near EAST FRIGGIN TIMOR ?

And you will NEVER Guess who is behind it ???

Could it be HENRY KISSINGER   No way right ? WRONG !
Kissinger is a member of Louisana based FREEPORT McMoRan
Corporation, the first foreign company granted an operating
permit following the US Coup in 1965 that installed Suharto.

TREPCA all over again ?  Can you believe such a glaring motive
is so obvious yet so unknown by the vast majority of people who
consider themselves EXPERTS on this subject ?  Shows how
IGNORANT most are, and what BLATHER most discussions are !!!
Just like how few CivilWar "buffs" never heard of Judah
Benjamin, the Confederacy's Secretary of War, who retired a rich
man in England!

EXCERPT:

With reserves valued at $40 billion, the Freeport
McMoRan project is the largest single gold deposit in
the world and the third largest open-cut copper mine.

In April 1967 Freeport McMoRan became the first foreign
company granted an operating permit following the
1965-66 U.S.-backed coup that installed General Suharto.
Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger is
credited with having introduced company officials to
President Suharto. It is reported that Mr. Kissinger
sits on Freeport's board, earning $500,000 a year, and
Freeport also retains his law firm, Kissinger and
Associates, for a reputed $200,000 a year.


FROM: http://www.antiwar.com
http://www.twf.org/News/Y1999/0922-Greed.html
TALK about TREPCA TODAY ! http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/trepca

Released September 22, 1999

The Wisdom Fund, P. O. Box 2723, Arlington, VA 22202
Website: http://www.twf.org --
Press Contact: Enver Masud

Greed At Core Of Indonesia's Timor Problem
by Enver Masud

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- At its core the problem of East
Timor, and indeed much of Indonesia, has a lot to do
with greed rather than the Muslim-Christian divide
portrayed in the media.

>From ancient times until the 7th century AD Indonesia
was ruled by various Hindu kingdoms among which the
Majapahit Empire became the most powerful. Sumatra was
then known as the "island of gold, and Java as the
"rice island."

Muslim traders began arriving in the 13th century, and
Islam spread peacefully through the islands. The
descendants of the Hindu kingdoms retreated to the
islands of Bali and Lombok where they flourish to this
day.

With the fall of Muslim Spain in 1492 (as in the
Americas, Africa, and South Asia), came 350 years of
brutal colonial rule and exploitation. First to arrive
were the Portuguese in 1511 AD. The Portuguese were
followed by the Dutch (1602 to 1799 AD), the British
(1811 to 1815 AD), and again the Dutch (1816 to 1908
AD).

The colonial masters took slaves, forced the natives
to grow crops for export which resulted in famines,
and destroyed the thriving inter-island trade.

By 1908 nationalist movements began seeking
self-government, and Indonesia declared independence
on August 17, 1947. Sukarno, a leader of the
independence movement, became president. He was
overthrown in 1965 by Suharto in a U.S. backed
military coup in which it is reported that one million
people, mainly Chinese, were killed.

When the Dutch and Portuguese formally partitioned
East Timor between them in the 19th century, East
Timor remained a part of the Portuguese colony. The
governor of Portuguese Timor, in 1974, granted
permission for political parties, and five emerged.

Said to be lacking popular support Fretilin, the party
seeking independence, resorted to terror, civil war
broke out, and on August 27, 1975 the governor and
Portuguese officials abandoned the capital Dili. The
U.S. armed, trained Indonesian military entered East
Timor to stop a civil war.

Fretilin, supplied with arms from the Portuguese army
arsenal, declared East Timor independent. The four
other parties in East Timor declared their
independence and integration with Indonesia. East
Timor became the 27th province of Indonesia, but this
claim was not recognized by the UN.

Rich in natural resources, Indonesia's primary problem
is the equitable sharing of these resources. Foreign
interests, and internal corruption, add to the
inherent difficulty that while Java is Indonesia's
most heavily populated island, many of the resources
are located in less populated islands.

According to former U.S. Ambassador to Indonesia,
Edward Masters, Indonesia did more in 35 years to
develop barren, infertile East Timor than Portugal did
in four centuries.

Indonesia allocated development funds to East Timor at
a rate six times the national average. In 1975, less
than 10%

[CTRL] Lest We Forget - Vietnam Vets

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

  Lest We Forget

Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" . - Jane Fonda should never be
considered.  The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name
is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.

Folks,

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Jane Fonda's
participation in what I believe to be blatant treason, is one of them. Part
of my conviction comes from exposure to those who suffered her attentions.

In 1978, the Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a
former POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton."  Dragged from a stinking
cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJs, he was ordered to
describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.  He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged
away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's
feet, accidentally pulling the man's shoe off-which sent that officer
berserk.  In '78, the AF Col still suffered from double vision-permanently
grounding him-from the Vietnamese Col's frenzied application of wooden
baton.

>From 1983-85, Col Larry Carrigan was 347FW/DO (F-4Es). He'd spent 5 years in
the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was 'missing in action."  His wife
lived on faith that he was still alive.  His group, too, got the
leaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that
they
still survived.  Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on
it,
in the palm of his hand.  When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she
walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are  you
grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing
this
HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.  She took them
all without missing a beat.  At the end of the line and once the camera
stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the
officer in charge...and handed him the little pile.  Three men died from the
subsequent beatings.  Col Carrigan was almost number four.

For years after their release, a group of determined former POWs including
Col Carrigan, tried to bring Ms. Fonda and others up on charges of treason.
I
don't know that they used it, but the charge of "Negligent Homicide due to
Depraved Indifference" would also seem appropriate.  Her obvious "granting
of
aid and comfort to the enemy," alone, should've been sufficient for the
treason count.  However, to date, Jane Fonda has never been formally charged
with anything and continues to enjoy the privileged life of the rich and
famous.

 I, personally, think that this is shame on us, the American Citizenry.
Part
of our shortfall is ignorance: most don't know such actions ever took place.
Thought you might appreciate the knowledge.  Most of you've  probably
already
seen this by now...  only addition I might add to these sentiments is to
remember the satisfaction of relieving myself into the urinal at some
airbase
or another where "zaps" of Hanoi Jane's@#&#$% face had been applied.

To whom it may concern:
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Viet Nam, and was captured
by the North Vietnamese communists in South Viet Nam in 1968, and held for
over 5 years.  I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage
in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.  My North Vietnamese
captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a
leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near
the Cambodian border.  At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lb. (My
normal weight is 170 lb.)

We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."  When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was
asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet
with Jane Fonda.  I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs were receiving, which was far different from the treatment
purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane
and
lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees
with outstretched arms with a piece of steel rebar placed on my hands, and
beaten with a bamboo cane every time my arms dipped. I had the opportunity
to
meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released.  I asked
her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me, her
husband, Tom Hayden, answered for her. She was Mind controlled by her
husband.  This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as "100
Years of Great Women."

After I was released, I was asked what I thought of Jane Fonda and the
anti-war movement.  I said that I held Joan Baez's husband in very high
regard, for he thought the war was wrong, burned his draft card and went to
prison in protest.  If the other anti-war protesters took this sa

Re: [CTRL] Dole on Kids at School (Microcosm of Adults in Society )

1999-09-23 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Question: will aspirin and a Swiss Army knife constitute "drugs and
weapons"?? Or perhaps echinacea coughdrops? Has anyone thought of asking the
KIDS the best way to keep drugs and weapons out of schools?

> -Original Message-
> From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:17 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [CTRL] Dole on Kids at School (Microcosm of Adults in
> Society)
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
>  The State is "Big Mother" and we citizens are all her dependent
> children
> ...
>
>
> Dole Wants School Locker Searches
>
> By TOM KIRCHOFER
> .c The Associated Press
>
> MELROSE, Mass. (AP) - Reminiscing about her student teaching days while
> addressing harsh concerns of today, Elizabeth Dole said Wednesday that
> order
> must be restored to classrooms - even if it means parent-approved locker
> and
> backpack searches and drug-testing of students.
>
> ``For drugs and weapons, I say: there will be no place to hide,'' Dole
> said.
>


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Re: [CTRL] "Sexual Predators" on the 'Net -- for Disney

1999-09-23 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Calling Matt Drudge...

> -Original Message-
> From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 7:32 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  [CTRL] "Sexual Predators" on the 'Net -- for Disney
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>
>  And then there's the rumor (still awaiting confirmation) of a
> prominent
> Fortune 500 CEO busted for pedophilia last month -- a fact never publicly
> reported, thanks to the intervention of Wall Street, worried about what
> effect news of his arrest might have on the Dow Jones right now ...
>  (An illustration of the ruthlessly amoral face of "insider trading"
> at
> the TOP?)
>
>
>

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Thursday #2

1999-09-23 Thread ric carter

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SkeptiNews 990923b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

: Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
: Nothing contained herein is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy or meaning.
: Ghost electricity howled during production of this bulletin. 'Twas eerie.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ APOCALYPSE REVEALED. Prophecies about things to come are explained in
  everyday language. A collection of visions from different prophets in
  different countries and different times clearly paint an era of a man
  who will declare himself as the savior of the world. What starts out as
  a conversation overheard, ends up in the most significant battle of all
  time. Events in the Apocalypse are already unfolding, and are explained
  here so that you might understand and prepare. Drop your cox and grab
  your sox.  http://members.xoom.com/Apocalypse23/

: Are you ready for Armageddon? Have you seen the signs, heeded the signs,
repainted the signs? Have you ever been to Megiddo, Israel? Is it spooky?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Y2K-a-Rama:

# Y2K - FBI TO ROUND UP BLACKS: Already reeling from accusations of lying
  about its actions at Waco, the FBI is about to face an explosive round
  of allegations about Y2K. A nine-year veteran of the bureau has decided
  to speak out about the FBI's "Mad Max" Y2K plan and alleged targeting
  of blacks. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19990922br.htm

# Y2K may trigger meltdown, doom economy - U.S. Senate panel:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2561268696-b7e
# Y2K - US Military Prepares For 'Digital Pearl Harbor':
  http://www.sightings.com/politics4/y2kpearlharbor_p.htm
# Y2K - Pentagon Planners Ponder Sneak Attack On US:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19990921/ts/yk_usa_1.html
# Y2K - Glitch Won't Steal New Year's? Ya sure, by golly:
  http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/business/feed/a27588-1999sep22.htm

# Y2K AND WACO. As new evidence points to a six-year government cover-up of
  military events at Waco, the obvious question becomes, "What else are they
  lying about?" Y2K, of course. In this article, we take a close look at the
  govt pattern of "receding denials" and other similarities between the two
  historical events. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19990907waco.htm

# Y2K - Venezuela - Y2K Won't Interrupt Oil Deliveries:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/19990921/bs/y2k_venezuela_oil_1.html
# Y2K - G8 Nations Seen Being 'Largely Unscathed' By Y2K:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19990921/tc/yk_group_1.html
# Y2K - Is Asia Y2K Ready? No. Yes. Maybe. Hardly:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990923/02/tech-yk-asia
# Y2K - U.S. Companies Confident On Y2K Compliance:
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/990923/02/tech-yk-companies

# Y2K - HOPING FOR THE WORST. The US govt wants you to believe only "hate
  groups" and "zealots" want Y2K to be a worst-case event. In fact, several
  prominent politicians and government offices stand to gain tremendous
  political power (and increased funding) if Y2K disruptions turn out to be
  severe. Find out who may be rooting for the worst while telling Americans
  to plan for the best. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19990902w.htm

# Y2K - IMF tries to prevent collapse of 3rd world bank systems:
  http://cnnfntech.newsreal.com/story/19990921/00/58/5912106_st.html
# Y2K - Looking ahead is key to realizing impact of Y2K:
  http://www.wbn.com/y2ktimebomb/Computech/Issues/lcore9938a.htm
# Watchdog group says U.K. government doesn't understand Y2K:
  http://www.excite.co.uk/news/news_story/technology/tech2.txt
# Y2K - U.S. Senate's 100 day report:
  http://www.senate.gov/~y2k/documents/100dayrpt/

# Y2K - US NAVY DOC SPIN. Y2K Newswire finds a major logical flaw in the
  official explanation offered for the leaked Navy documents. Suddenly,
  Y2K Deniers find themselves pleading with you to believe they think like
  alarmists. http://www.y2knewswire.com/19990823nav.htm

# Y2K - U.S. schools not making the grade for Y2K readiness:
  http://www.y2ktoday.com/modules/home/default.asp?id=2136
# Y2K - Alabama fires Y2K remediation group, scrambles for replace:
  http://www.y2ktoday.com/modules/home/default.asp?id=2144
#  - 11 systems at Chinese pharmaceutical factory crash:
  http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19990921/tc/yk_china_9.html

# Y2K SAFETY VS NUCLEAR PROFITS. The Nuclear Regulatory Commission is do-
  ing everything possible to ensure public safety during the Y2K rollover,
  right? Wrong. They won't even require nuclear power plants to be Y2K
  compliant. See why one reporter called them the, "Nuclear Promotional
  Agency." http://www.y2knewswire.com/19990913safet.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

CHRISTMAS and Y2K VIRUS, TROJAN, and HOAX WATCH:

# TROJ_Y2KCOUNT -- (Fake email from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) The TROJ_Y2KCOUNT
  virus is distributed in a fake email from Microsoft that claims it to be a
  Microsoft Year 2000 Counter. On execution of the Y2KCOUNT.EXE file, which
  is attached to an email message 

[CTRL] Fw: Answers?

1999-09-23 Thread earthman

 -Caveat Lector-

Check out this link for the "Answer"
http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~uther/sprg/letter16.htm


We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage
Bargain Books
http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186&bfpage=b



- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: earthman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Answers?


> earthman wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the page...Stranger. I have printed it out at will read
later.
> > What made you think I was looking for answers?
> > Peter
> >
> > We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
> > http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage
> > Bargain Books
> > http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186&bfpage=b
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 6:26 PM
> > Subject: Answers?
> >
> > > http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~uther/sprg/letter16.htm
> > >
> > >
> In case you think the article is not serious, the TOE has been up for
> over a year now, circulated in some major universities, etc and has had
> no challenges. Some individuals who are capable of understanding what is
> said; like the theory. The theory answers all questions of modern
> physics, uses mathematics previously proven but for which there was no
> known use.
>
> Some scientists in the Ukraine were going to fly the experiments but did
> not have the money under current space program conditions there. Not
> much will be done about the theory because there is too much power and
> money to be lost. The theory expands Einsteins 4th dimensional
> Relativity to infinite multdimensional spacetime. I only give the
> basics; find the details for yourself. It makes reading the Bible a new
> experience. Everyday life a pleasure! Enjoy it; it's free!
>
> Everything is Illusion!
>
> The CrikCritter
>
>

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[CTRL] [BRIGADE] Q&A With PJB from Today's Chat on ABC.COM

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Richer

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Dear Brigade,

Just in case you missed the live chat with Pat today, here are the Q&A, FYI.

GO PAT GO!!!
Linda

--

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS FROM ABCNEWS.COM:
LIVE CHAT WITH PAT BUCHANAN
ABC NEWS - http://www.abcnews.com
September 17, 1999

---

Moderator at 2:00pm ET
Mr. Buchanan, welcome to the chat.
We have hundreds of questions for your from our online users. Let's begin …

---

Tony D. Cochren from [38.27.64.6], at 2:01pm ET
Mr. Buchanan,

You have been a standard bearer for the Republican Party, as well as a
great, and loyal stateman who has served his party and country a long time.
Why would you want to abandon the GOP and possibly allow the democratci
nominee the chance to be President as Perot did for Clinton in 1992?

---

Pat Buchanan at 2:02pm ET
The Republican establishment in Washington has abandoned us on issues
from the appeasement of communist China to supporting Clinton's
unconstitutional war in Kosovo to the Clinton/Gore support of open-borders
immigration, the Republican establishment is in total agreement with Clinton
and Gore. We need at least one candidate and one party that would give
Americans a real choice of destinies in the year 2000.

---

Joey Witt from [209.246.133.100], at 2:03pm ET
Mr. Buchanan, I'll follow you where ever you go but I have just one
question...
Why the reform party? Wouldn't the American Tax Payer's Party be a better
fit?

---

Pat Buchanan at 2:03pm ET
I have enormous respect for the principaled patriots of the American
Taxpayer Party but the Reform Party is a vehicle that 19 million Americans
at one point followed, and it is a much more potentially successful vehicle
to
take one to the Presidency. Finally, the Taxpayers Party already has a
nominee.

---

Carol Marks from [199.93.166.66], at 2:04pm ET
Isn't the greater good served by electing the Republican that can win, rather
than siphoning votes from him, as happened to George Bush? I admire you
but want the liberals out.

---

Pat Buchanan at 2:05pm ET
We both want the liberals out. We both want Clinton and Gore gone. But we
want something better for America in the new century than an establishment
Republican Party whose beliefs on issues of deep concern to me are virtually
identical to those of Clinton and Gore.

---

Z from [146.142.92.30], at 2:05pm ET
I've always viewed the Reform Party as a group of political misfits who were
incompatible with either of the two major parties. Asside from its renegade
mentality, does the Reform Party have any core beliefs on issues? If so, how
well do they coincide with yours?

---

Pat Buchanan at 2:06pm ET
On protecting U.S. jobs and our industrial base, on keeping Americans out of
foreign wars that are none of our business, on a new immigration policy that
will cut back legal immigration to 250,000 a year and enable us to repair the
Melting Pot, I agree entirely with most of the Reform Party. As for their
being
"misfits" people have called me the same thing.

---

Gene Hoskins from [204.134.208.33], at 2:07pm ET
Why not try to change the Republican Party from within? This decision
seems to be political suicide for both the Republican nominee and you?

---

Pat Buchanan at 2:09pm ET
The truth is Gene, we have changed the Republican party at the grass roots,
it is anti-NAFTA, anti-GATT, against the apeasement of communist China
with special trade privleges and against Clinton's undeclared wars. The
problem is the Republican establishment is not influenced by the party
platform or the party rank and file. And then you gotta make a decision: how
can I support a Republican hierarchy when it wishes to take America in a
direction I believe my country must not go?

---

Mike from [204.202.132.11], at 2:09pm ET
Just tell us yes or no: will you leave the GOP and run for president on the
Reform ticket? Please give us a straight answer.

---

Pat Buchanan at 2:10pm ET
The straight answer is: I have not decided and will not for at least a month.
There are too many potential barricades and roadblocks being thrown up
already in our path for me to decide now.

---

Tom Rainwater from [205.138.140.170], at 2:11pm ET
Mr. Buchanan, is it possible that the integrity of the office of the
president
can be restored? How can that be accomplished?

---

Pat Buchanan at 2:11pm ET
Remove Bill Clinton.

---

Mark Wasson from [63.72.184.67], at 2:12pm ET
Are you concerned aboout the infringement of the 4th Amendment by law
enfo

[CTRL] Chinese invasion thru Canada

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 http://www.drudgereport.com/matt2.htm

 X DRUDGE REPORT
 X TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 1999 22:10:13 ET X


 JOINT US/CANADA SPY VENTURE DETECTS CHINESE ALIENS

 The bulldog edition of Wednesday's SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER is
 reporting that the U.S.and Canada are cooperating in a joint spy
 venture to detect rampant Chinese smuggling off the Canadian coast.

 The POST-INTELLIGENCER'S Ed Offley and Joel Connelly are reporting
 that the two nations are working closely together to monitor the
 western coastline of Canada where over the last two months 600
 Chinese have been found on four ships.

 According to the paper, Canada and the U.S. "are using a network
 of spy satellites, underwater acoustic sensors and electronic
 interception techniques to track smuggling ships from Chinese
 ports."

 One U.S. Navy intelligence "official" confirmed the intelligence
 campaign, telling the paper:

 "There is an ongoing agreement between the U.S. Navy and the
 Canadian Navy to foster cooperation in intelligence in that part
 of the world."

 The co-venture is based at the Northwest Regional Naval
 Intelligence Center, which is located at Whidbey Island Naval Air
 Station, and is part of a longstanding intelligence relationship
 between the two countries.

 "During the Cold War, the United States developed overlapping
 surveillance systems to track the Soviet Navy and its nuclear
 submarine fleet in the Pacific, and many of those systems are
 still active."

 Developing...

 X X X X X



 ---

 Filed by Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant
 http://www.drudgereport.com for updates
 (c)DRUDGE REPORT 1999
 Not for reproduction without permission of the author


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[CTRL] The Communist Machines

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Kingsbury

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 http://marlowe.wimsey.com/~rshand/streams/masons/communist.html


   The Communist Machines


  (1) Precursors in the Carbonari


 "It has been said that the European version of the Order of the
 Illuminati contributed in no small measure to the development of
 revolutionary doctrines which eventually culminated in the Russian
 and other Communist Machines."

  - Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies


 "...As soon as, perhaps sooner than Weishaupt had passed away,
 the supreme government of all the Secret Societies of the world
 was exercised by the Alta Vendita or highest lodge of the Italian
 Carbonari.  The Alta Vendita ruled the blackest Freemasonry of
 France, German, and England; and until Mazzini wrenched the scepter
 of the dark Empire from that body, it continued with consummate
 ability to direct the revolutions of Europe."

  - Mgr. George E. Dillon, D.D., Grand Orient Freemasonry,
Unmasked as the Secret Power Behind Communism


 In 1816, Charles Nodier, an alleged Grand Master of the Priory of
 Sion, "published anonymously one of his most curious and
 influential works, A History of Secret Societies in the Army under
 Napoleon... It develops a comprehensive philosophy of secret
 societies.  And it credits such societies with a number of
 historical accomplishments, including the downfall of Napoleon."

  - Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail


 "In the early nineteenth century, certain figures -- Charles Nodier,
 for example... and Filippo Buonarroti, a master conspirator who was
 much admired by such men as Bakunin -- make a point of inventing,
 and disseminating information about a number of wholly fictitious
 secret societies.  So convincing was this information that
 perfectly innocent people found themselves being harried and
 persecuted for alleged membership of clandestine organizations that
 did not exist.  Confronted by such persecution, the victims, as a
 means of self-defense, began to form themselves into a real secret
 society which conformed to the blueprint of the fictitious one."

  - Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln, The Messianic Legacy


 According to the Carbonari, or "charcoal-burners", the history of
 this organization started in Scotland as happy democratic mystics.
 "For the purpose of avoiding suspicion of ulterior motives, they
 took to charcoal-burning, which is described as the industry par
 excellence of Scotland."  Francis I, King of France, was supposedly
 admitted to the Order.  "When he went back to France, he
 scrupulously fulfilled his undertaking, declaring himself Protector
 of the Carbonari, and he increased their numbers.  The Order now
 spread through Germany, France and England."

 "It has been said by some historians that the inspiration of the
 Carbonari and similar societies came from pre-Christian times, for
 there were settled in the Alps communities which seemed to owe
 allegiance to Gnostic and other ideas which some profess to see
 reflected in Freemasonry, Templarism and the discipleship of the
 way of the Sufis."

 "The Italian patriots Garibaldi, Mazzini and Cavour revived the
 secret society after 1830, and its members were again found to be
 ready for any sacrifice for republicanism and rule by the
 Carbonari.  The effect which they had upon the world was
 considerable: and it continued to be so.  For fifty years they had
 fought in civil war; they spread to many other lands, including
 Germany, where they were responsible for the Totenbund (the Death
 League) which was dedicated to assassinating tyrants.)

  - Arkon Daraul, Secret Societies


 ---


(2) The Palladian Rite Hoax


 "In 1870, Mazzini and Pike reached an agreement for the creation of
 the new supreme rite, to be called the New and Reformed Palladian
 Rite.  Pike was to be called the Sovereign Pontiff of Universal
 Freemasonry, and Mazzini was to be called Sovereign Chief of
 Political Action.  Pike was to draw up the statutes and grades."

  - William T. Still, New World Order


 "No mention of it would ever be made in the assemblies of the
 Lodges and Inner Shrines of other rites... for the secret of the
 new institution was only to be divulged with the greatest caution
 to a chosen few belonging to the ordinary high grades.

 "Palladism is essentially a Luciferian rite.  Its religion in
 Manichean new-gnosticism, teaching that the divinity is dual and
 that Lucifer is the equal of Adonay.  The whole masonic world was
 set up at Charleston, the sacred city of the Palladium."

  - Edith Star Miller, Occult Theocracy


  "If Lucifer were not God, would Adonay (The God of the
  Christians) whose deeds prove his cruelty... and hatred of
  man, barbarism and repulsion for science, would Adonay and
  his priests calumniate him?  Yes, Lucifer is God, and
  unfortunately Adonay is a

[CTRL] HELL

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/
1999-08/29/001r-082999-idx.html

 Early Jews believed dead people, good and bad, all descended
 to the same destination, a nondescript underworld called Sheol.
 "There is no concrete Jewish vision of the afterlife..."

 HELL ON EARTH

 The scorched rockwalls of a valley below Jerusalem are saturated
 with the blood of untold abominations.  This is the pit, the root
 of our worst fears.

 By Edwin Black
 Special to The Washington Post
 Sunday, August 29, 1999; Page F01

 Below the Old City walls in Jerusalem there is a ravine that begins
 as a gentle, grassy separation between hills, then quickly descends
 south into the rocky earth.  Eventually the ravine becomes a steep,
 craggy depth, scarred on its far side by shallow caves and pits
 pocked by hollowed-out chambers and narrow crypts.

 Everywhere you see scorches and smolder from trash fires.
 Rivulets of urine trickle down from open sewers at the cliffs
 above, watering thorn bushes, weeds and unexpected clumps of grass
 among the outcroppings.  You smell the stench of decaying offal,
 the congealed stink of putrefied garbage and the absorbed reek of
 incinerated substances seared into the rock face.  Crows circle
 low.  Worms and maggots slither throughout.

 Listen.  Imagine.  Some cannot help but hear the tormented screams
 of babies being burned alive, the macabre incantations of the
 idolatrous in gruesome celebration, the agonized cries of helpless
 victims, and so many echoes of death and disconsolation that dwell
 here so pervasively not even the centuries can silence them.

 Welcome to Hell.  Some say the real Hell -- or at least one of the
 central prototypes for our modern concept of that horrific place.
 This is Jerusalem's Gei Ben Hinnom, the Valley of the Sons of
 Hinnom.  The valley was named for an alien nonsemitic family, the
 Hinnom clan that predated the First Temple period a thousand years
 before the Christian era, and established the locale as a place of
 abomination.  Gei Ben Hinnom became Ge Hinnom (Valley of Hinnom),
 and eventually Gehenna in English or Gehennem in Arabic and Hebrew.

 Those who walked through the biblical Valley of the Shadow of Death
 walked here.  Hellish images of unending torture and fire as
 punishment for a life of evil owe much to this hideous acreage,
 just a short walk from the path of righteousness that leads to
 the Temple Mount.


 Hellish Sacrifice

 Perhaps it is fitting that the path to Hell begins delightfully.
 In recent years, the northern and inoffensive length of the valley
 has become a zone of chic Israeli gentrification: exquisite town
 homes, landscaped parks, a concert bowl at the Sultan's Pool and
 movie theaters.  But, as the ravine carves deeper and deeper
 between the rocky hills, and as it rounds the corners of Mount Zion
 into East Jerusalem en route to the Arab village of Silwan, Gei Ben
 Hinnom conjoins with the Valley of Kidron.  Here it traverses a
 stretch that has become a sort of urban no-man's-land in the
 struggle between Arab and Israeli.

 As land that defies political peace, this is the only part of
 the valley that Arabs cannot improve and that Jews dare not.
 Therefore, little has changed here for centuries.  Still visible
 are the original, deep angular cuts into the flat scorched stone
 that held the infamous Tophet, pagan altars created hundreds of
 years before Christ.  Tophet altars are said to be named for the
 noisy drum that devotees of the mysterious dark god Molech would
 beat to drown out the ghastly cries of children immolated in
 sacrifice in front of their own willing parents.

 In the black rapture of their faith, mothers and fathers not only
 witnessed the sacrifice, but glorified the act.  Beneath the
 ancient Tophet altars, one can still see foreboding square
 entryways barely big enough for a human torso to squeeze through.
 Within those depths lay a complex of carved-out crypts, as well as
 chambers for ritual preparation of the sacrificial victims.

 Little is known about Molech.  Some archaeologists speculate that
 the Molech idol in Gei Ben Hinnom was equipped with outstretched,
 cantilevered arms that extended a small platform upon which the
 innocent baby was tied.  Slowly the platform would swivel toward
 the consuming flames as the baby shrieked in helpless agony.  No
 wonder this most hideous place is the focus of so much biblical
 wrath: "He defiled Tophet, which is in the Valley of Ben Hinnom,
 so that no one would make a son or a daughter pass through fire
 as an offering to Molech" (II Kings 23:10).

 "Therefore the days are surely coming, says the Lord, when this
 place shall no more be called Tophet, or the Valley of the Sons
 of Hinnom, but the Valley of Slaughter" (Jeremiah 19:16).


 The Hinges of Hades

 But how did a very authentic site of pagan abomination help define
 the concept of eternal punishment we call Hell?

 Two separate dynamics have been a

[CTRL] Fw: Osiri Rises

1999-09-23 Thread earthman

 -Caveat Lector-

I gather that this post is from ORBIT. The site is having problems. What do
you think?
Peter
]
From: PeterR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > All my servers are going down after posting the
> > following:
> > DISCREET INTEL NOTES
> >
> > First - I have been following your site for over
> 12
> > months now so am familiar
> > with what the agendas are - I have not contacted
> you
> > before as I was awaiting
> > confirmation from a number of sources which are
> > HIGHLY relevant and may
> > answer a few questions recently posed. Second -
> keep
> > it up you are doing a
> > great job and I can tell you, your pages are
> > followed by many, including some
> > you may wish not to get involved with!
> >
> > 1. Anomalous weather patterns, earthquakes and
> solar
> > system effects caused by
> > Comet Lee, fireballs and evacuations. A.
> Combination
> > of events that are being
> > prepared from subterranean research centres -
> > involves more than one or two
> > races!
> >
> > 2.Comet Lee
> > A tomb or chamber at Giza has to be opened by
> > 21st/22nd Sept before full
> > electro magnetic effects take place beneath
> surface
> > of Giza - there is a
> > working machine there tied up with MONOLITHS on
> the
> > MOON - they are RELAY
> > devices - see my web site.
> >
> > 3. In this 'Tomb' in suspended animation, is a
> > member of one of our original
> > race here on earth - of reptilian race. The rest
> of
> > us are but a genetic
> > experiment carried out millions of years ago by
> the
> > Pleiadians, along with
> > their followers the Chaldeans. These are our
> nearest
> > relatives and are here
> > to make sure we open tomb on time.
> >
> > 4. THE MOON AND RECENT SHADOWS SEEN ACROSS SURFACE
> > Attempts to displace matter and move moon back
> into
> > orbit by Pleiadians - not
> > sure if they were successful, in order that soul
> > energy transfer machine will
> > function.
> >
> > 5. All that is going on at the moment is wrapped
> up
> > in electro magnetic
> > activity.
> >
> > 6. After september expect FULL DISCLOSURE from
> our
> > genetic forefathers -
> > sightings on increase already due to a 'window'
> > opened.
> >
> > The latest data on your web site has now finally
> > found the truth, re: ALGOLS
> > - yes the full effects of Lee, as we have stated
> > will be from 22nd to 26th -
> > September So chamber opening has to be by 21st -
> > they are only on the second
> > level!!! I do not think they will do it.
> >
> > After 26th, Lee's electro magnetic effects will
> have
> > done their dirty deed -
> > prophecy WILL occur, and people will see for
> > themselves.] ...if we can get
> > the ancient crystal aligned under the plateau,
> this
> > may help - BUT our
> > agencies are not listening
> >
> > We will wait and see what transpires - keep an eye
> > on the activities on the
> > moon (or rather under the surface of it) NASA has
> > been following the
> > activities, but are at a loss as to what is going
> > on.
> > 1. Reptilians may be able to access soul
> > machine
> > 2. There WILL be a resurrection in the
> > coming few days - Esau and
> > his 400 has been out in front waiting for this
> time-
> > he has returned to
> > regain what is his from his 'brother' -read
> relevant
> > section on my webpage.
> > 3. What happens to souls? I am waiting
> > confirmation of that one.
> > Will Pleiadians step in? after all it is their
> > original genetic experiment.
> >
> > All this may seem far fetched, but you have been
> > following all the anomalous
> > weather reports, emlf, HAARP, evacs, sightings in
> > eclipse etc etc, - it is
> > all heading for one purpose - and that purpose is
> > the revival of what the
> > prophecy calls the 'King' a claimant who long ago
> > was placed in stasis.
> >
> > Keep in touch, it is a matter of IMPACT now not
> > CONTACT!!
> >
> > Have already seen Chaldean guards in Maadi tunnel
> > entrance near Cairo - big
> > mothers, the Pleiadian henchmen.
> >
> > We have the 'code' to enter.
> > 1.One has to enter access tunnel barefoot -
> > sensitive to vibrations.
> > 2. The whole area is supported by columns in
> > suspension, they give to avoid
> > damage by earthquakes etc, seem to be held by some
> > advanced force field.
> > 3. There are ethereal guards, (Chaldeans etc) who
> > one should be aware of,
> > they will only permit positive-like minded people
> in
> > - only three allowed,
> > ANON is one of them, ANON may be another, possibly
> > ANON the third.
> > 4. Inside are large screens like videos for want
> of
> > a better word, these
> > depict past, present and future images,
> reflections
> > of our souls.
> >
> > Kent's suggestion: keep an eye on these websites
> for
> > future disclosure:
> > http://www.freeyellow.com/members7/howardmj/
> >
>
http://www.freeyellow.com/members7/howardmj/page1.html
> >
>


We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnz

[CTRL] Project Monarch: Nazi Mind Control

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 http://www.brotherblue.org/libers/monarch.htm


 Project Monarch: Nazi Mind Control
 ---
 Amidst the subtle cerebral circumvention of the gullible populace,
 through a multitude of manipulated mediums, lies one of the most
 diabolical atrocities perpetrated upon a segment of the human race;
 a form of systematic mind control which has permeated every aspect
 of society for almost fifty years.

 by Ron Patton

 To objectively ascertain the following, one may need to re-examine
 preconceived ideologies relating to the dualistic nature of
 mankind. Resolving the philosophical question of whether we are
 inherently good or inherently evil is tantamount in shaping our
 perception of reality; specifically, the spiritual variable within
 the equation of life.

 This exposition is substantiated by declassified U.S. government
 documents, individuals formerly connected to the U.S. intelligence
 communities, historical writings, researchers knowledgeable in mind
 control, publications from mental health practitioners, and
 interviews taken from survivors unwittingly subjected to a highly
 complex form of trauma-based mind control known as MONARCH
 programming. A word of caution for survivors of intensively
 systematic mind control and/or some form of ritualized abuse:
 There are numerous "triggers" in this article. It is therefore
 recommended not to read it unless appropriate support systems are
 in place or if you have a thoroughly reintegrated personality.


 A Brief History of Control

 The Mystery Religions of ancient Egypt, Greece, India and Babylon
 helped lay the foundation for occultism, meaning "hidden
 knowledge." One of the earliest writings giving reference to
 occultism is the Egyptian Book of the Dead, a compilation of
 rituals explicitly describing methods of torture and intimidation
 (to create trauma), the use of potions (drugs) and the casting of
 spells (hypnotism), ultimately resulting in the total enslavement
 of the initiate.1 These have been the main ingredients for a part
 of occultism known as Satanism, throughout the ages.

 During the 13th Century, the Roman Catholic church increased and
 solidified its dominion throughout Europe with the infamous
 Inquisition. Satanism survived this period of persecution, deeply
 entrenching itself under the veil of various esoteric groups.

 In 1776, a Bavarian Jesuit by the name of Adam Weishaupt was
 commissioned by the House of Rothschild to centralize the power
 base of the Mystery Religions into what is commonly known as the
 Illuminati, meaning "Enlightened Ones." This was an amalgamation of
 powerful occultic bloodlines, elite secret societies and
 influential Masonic fraternities, with the desire to construct the
 framework for a "New World Order."

 The outward goal of this Utopia was to bring forth universal
 happiness to the human race. However, their underlying intention
 was to gradually increase control over the masses, thus becoming
 masters of the planet.


 The Anglo Alliance

 By the 19th century, Great Britain and Germany were recognized as
 the primary geographic areas of Illuminati control. It then should
 be of little surprise to know the first work in Behavioral Science
 research was established in England in 1882, while much of the
 early medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control
 were pioneered at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany.

 The Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in London in
 1921 to study the "breaking point" of humans. Kurt Lewin, a German
 psychologist, became the director of the Tavistock Institute in
 1932, about the same time Nazi Germany was increasing its research
 into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational
 occultism.

 Interestingly, a progressive exchange of scientific ideas was
 taking place between England and Germany, most notably in the field
 of eugenics: the movement devoted to "improving" the human species
 through the control of hereditary factors in mating. The
 nefariously enigmatic union between the two countries was bonded,
 partly through the Order of the Golden Dawn, a secret society which
 consisted of many high ranking officials in the


 Nazi party and British aristocracy.

 Top SS Nazi officer Heinrich Himmler was in charge of a scientific
 project called Lebersborn, which included selective breeding and
 adoption of children, a peculiarly large number of twins among
 them.2 The purpose of the program was to create a super-race
 (Aryans) who would have total allegiance to the cause of the Third
 Reich (New World Order). Much of the preliminary experimentation
 concerning genetic engineering and behavior modification was
 conducted by Dr. Josef Mengele at Auschwitz, where he coldly
 analyzed the effects of trauma-bonding, eye-coloring and "twinning"
 upon his victims.

 Beside the insidious surgical experimentation performed at the
 concentration camp, some of the children were subject

[CTRL] TV MUTANTS

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 http://members.aol.com/FTUN/AMUSEDCOMMERCE.html


 ARE YOU AMUSED?

 With credit existing only in our thoughts, and the Federal Reserve
 has said that their system "works only with credit", we are on the
 THOUGHT STANDARD as opposed to a gold standard.  You can think that
 you have money and think that you pay taxes and think that
 government spends money when they do not spend a dime in a system
 that works only with credit.  You can think that you are a free
 person while others control your mind and your body by controlling
 your thoughts but you are in fact a slave as was your parents and
 grandparents before you.

 To muse is to think; amuse is no think.  Amusements inhibit serious
 thinking.  Actors, entertainers, ball players, hockey players,
 musicians, pornographers, novelists, journalists, preachers,
 teachers and others are highly rewarded with credit -- if they can
 keep us from thinking about how we will get money for taxes in a
 system that works us only with credit and why our use of credit
 must be ruthlessly regulated by "taxation" and other unbelievable
 means.

 ---
 ---

   http://dieoff.org/page22.htm


 All that was required of them was a primitive patriotism which
 could be appealed to whenever it was necessary to make them accept
 longer working hours or shorter rations.  And even when they became
 discontented, as they sometimes did, their discontent led nowhere,
 because, being without general ideas, they could only focus it on
 petty specific grievances.  The larger evils invariably escaped
 their notice.
  --George Orwell, 1984

-

 TV MUTANTS

 There have been many studies which suggest that television
 increases violence, increases tribalization, shortens attention
 span and lowers school performance among heavy viewers.  But that
 is not my concern here.  Instead, I am concerned that watching
 television instead of reading tends to degrade the minds of heavy
 viewers so that they can not think in abstractions such as "cause
 and effect."  In other words, the 100 billion dollars spent on
 advertising each year, has simply burned abstract reasoning out of
 their minds.

 Today with functional magnetic resonance imaging (FMRI) and
 positron emission tomography (PET), researchers catch brains in the
 very act of cogitating, feeling or remembering.  The scans show
 that blood flow varies depending upon the type of activity the
 brain is occupied with.  In other words, a child that grows up
 on a heavy diet of TV viewing has a physically altered brain.
 Once adulthood is reached, it is still possible to enhance brain
 function but it requires much more effort.  Needless to say, it is
 naive to expect TV-mutants to "figure it out" anytime soon.

 In AMUSING OURSELVES TO DEATH, Neil Postman provides a brilliant
 analysis of our TV-mutant society:

 "We were keeping our eye on 1984.  When the year came and the
 prophecy didn't, thoughtful Americans sang softly in praise of
 themselves.  The roots of liberal democracy had held.  Wherever
 else the terror had happened, we at least, had not been visited by
 Orwellian nightmares.

 "But we had forgotten that alongside Orwell's dark vision, there
 was another -- slightly older, slightly less well known, equally
 chilling: Aldous Huxley's Brave New World.  Contrary to common
 belief even among the educated, Huxley and Orwell did not prophesy
 the same thing.  Orwell warns that we will be overcome by an
 externally imposed oppression.  But in Huxley's vision, no Big
 Brother is required to deprive people of their autonomy, maturity
 and history.  As he saw it, people will come to love their
 oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities
 to think.

 "What Orwell feared were those who would ban books.  What Huxley
 feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there
 would be no one who wanted to read one.  Orwell feared those who
 would deprive us of information.  Huxley feared those who would
 give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism.
 Orwell feared the truth would be concealed from us.  Huxley feared
 the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance.  Orwell feared
 we would become a captive culture.  Huxley feared we would become a
 trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies,
 the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy.  As Huxley
 remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and
 rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny 'failed to
 take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions.'
 In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure.
 In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us.  Huxley
 fea

[CTRL] Alien Incompetency Theory

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 The SWAMP GAS JOURNAL
 Special Issue #4 ISSN 0707-7106
 Spring, 1996

 Alien Incompetency Theory:
 A Unified Theory to Explain UFO Phenomena
 by Chris Rutkowski

 One of the most significant issues in ufology today is the attempt
 to explain the wide variety of conflicting, confusing and bizarre
 elements of the UFO phenomenon.  In every subfield of ufological
 studies, there are aspects which strain the logic of even the most
 seasoned researcher and cause one to doubt the rationality of the
 genre.

 To this end, a new theory has been developed by members of Ufology
 Research of Manitoba (UFOROM) which appears to explain most, if not
 all, of these baffling elements.  The theory, labelled AINT, is the
 Alien INcompetency Theory, and describes how all the confusing
 aspects can be explained by assuming one simple tenet: aliens are
 incompetent.  To illustrate the theory, one need only to look at
 examples from within the phenomenon itself, including its outlying
 subfields.  First, let us look at alien abductions.

 One of the basic premises of alien abductions is the conscious
 recall by abductees of their experiences aboard alien spacecraft.
 Nearly all abductees report that during their ordeal, the aliens
 create some sort of mental block within their minds so that they
 cannot remember what has occurred.  Yet, as evidenced by the huge
 number of abduction accounts published and under investigation,
 these mental blocks are ineffective.

 This is odd, considering the advanced technology and knowledge
 reported to be held by the aliens.  Some abductees report that
 their captors claim thousands of years of development beyond our
 own, yet they, too, have failed to produce a lasting screen memory
 that can withstand our feeble efforts to unlock it via simple
 hypnosis techniques duplicable by any charlatan or stage magician.
 Why would this be?

 (Vladimir Simosko, a UFOROM associate and noted Fortean researcher,
 has suggested some alternatives.  Aside from sheer incompetence,
 he notes two other possibilities:  1) aliens have a wacky sense of
 humor; and 2) they *want* us to remember, despite the pretense of
 intending us to forget.)

 Another curious observation is that nearly all abductees report
 aliens with roughly humanoid shapes and comparable sizes, but with
 different origins and purposes.  Some aliens tell their victims
 they are from Venus, some from the Pleiades and others from Zeta
 Reticuli.  Since space science has learned Venus cannot support
 life, this is obvious misinformation.  As for the Pleiades, these
 are stars much younger than our Sun and without hope for planets
 with suitable living conditions at this time.

 Some aliens claim their home planet has deteriorated from misuse
 and pollution, and wish to warn us about our own disruption of our
 planet.  Others suggest they need our biological material to breed
 new life (literally) into their gene pool, perhaps to regain such
 things as emotions or other human characteristics.  It is
 interesting that these scenarios imply that the aliens have somehow
 caused their own demise and that without our help they are lost.
 In other words, they made some serious mistakes.  It is not too
 much of a stretch to suggest they were incompetent in managing
 their resources!

 Of course, some aliens are said to claim that they are superior to
 us and have their own agendas.  This is precisely the claims an
 incompetent person would say to cover his or her mistakes in order
 to keep from being embarrassed.

 We can look at other aspects of abductions for further evidence.
 One abductee studied by John Mack described how she woke up one
 morning after her abduction, wearing lavender underwear.  This was
 baffling to her because she didn't own any underwear of that color.
 Mack quickly interpreted this to mean that the aliens had somehow
 made a mistake on board their craft during a busy mass-abduction,
 and mixed-up abductees' clothing.  Other abductees have reported
 returning from their abductions with slippers on the wrong feet
 and other items of clothing either missing or improperly fastened.
 In a case studied by Budd Hopkins, an abductee's earrings were
 found to be in backwards after her ordeal on board a craft.

 This all speaks to one explanation:  the aliens were incompetent.
 One would hope that superior beings who have been watching humans
 for many years would have easily picked up nuances such as the
 color of our clothing and the way jewelry is fastened to our bodies.

 Simosko would again note that this could be a display of an alien
 sense of humor, or perhaps an "intelligence test" of some sort.
 Regarding further refinements of AINT, he offers four postulates:

 1) If the aliens are intervening to "help us along," they are
 incompetent because it isn't working out too well; humans remain
 relatively unsophisticated and not very "tuned-in" to the universe.

 2) If the aliens are intervening by holding us bac

[CTRL] Chinese invasion thru Mexico

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Kingsbury

 -Caveat Lector-

 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_nyquist/
19990819_xcjny_chinas_sil.shtml


 China Pumping 'Sensitive' Cargo Into Mexico -
 Smuggling Into US Easy

 China's silent invasion

 by J.R. Nyquist
 Thursday, August 19, 1999
 © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

 Mexico's top drug trafficking cartel, run by the Arellano
 Felix brothers in Tijuana, is working closely with the
 Chinese.  According to Jamie Dettmer, writing in the August
 23 issue of Insight magazine, ships arriving in Mexico from
 China may contain "more than illegal immigrants."  The
 Chinese are pumping people and supplies into Mexico, and
 the cargo is considered so sensitive that it is "often
 under the apparent protection of Chinese and Mexican naval
 vessels."

 American authorities are helpless, as usual, to block this
 strategic smuggling operation on our southwest border.
 America is helpless because President Clinton will not
 support improved border controls, and he won't get tough
 with the Mexican government.  Clinton's immigration policy
 can be characterized as appeasement of the Mexicans,
 appeasement of the Chinese and a "who cares?" attitude.

 But why should Americans worry about large Chinese
 smuggling operations on our southwest border?  After all,
 it's probably only drugs and illegal immigrants.  And if
 people want to destroy their lives with heroin or cocaine,
 why waste money trying to stop them?  And if immigrants
 want to come here, why not welcome them?

 Setting aside the issue of dangerous drugs and illegal
 immigration, the reason we should worry about drug and
 alien smuggling into this country, and the reason that no
 effort should be spared in making our borders impenetrable,
 is because nuclear and biological weapons can be smuggled
 into the country by the same routes that illegal narcotics
 are smuggled.  According to Colonel Stanislav Lunev,
 highest ranking defector from the Main Intelligence
 Directorate of the Russian General Staff, narcotics
 trafficking is a way of establishing secure pathways into
 the United States.  If there is a hole in our border due
 to corruption by drug traffickers, that hole can be used
 to ship more than narcotics.  It can be used to ship
 suitcase nuclear bombs.

 With illegal immigration there is an additional concern.
 The Russian and Chinese general staffs have long been
 fascinated by Hitler's invasion of Norway.  In that
 invasion German combat units entered Norway disguised as
 civilians.  Once on Norwegian soil they deployed to sites
 where uniforms and weapons were waiting.  Entire German
 combat units were able to invade Norway without having to
 fight their way up beaches.  The country was penetrated
 in depth at the outset.

 Laugh if you like, but the United States is not invincible.
 If an alliance of relatively weak countries intended to
 defeat the United States in a war, they would have to take
 advantage of every potential avenue of attack.  The open
 U.S. border to the south is an obvious weak point.  In a
 typical war scenario, after a general nuclear exchange,
 thousands of Chinese soldiers pre-deployed to Mexico could
 move across the border and grab key points.  Therefore,
 Chinese and Mexican warships escorting Chinese shipments
 to Baja California should raise a red flag.

 OK, perhaps it is only narcotics trafficking today.  But
 some day it could be turned into something more.  And that
 fact makes the problem absolutely intolerable from a
 national security standpoint.

 Ironically, Clinton has declared a state of national
 emergency because of the threat of nuclear and biological
 terrorism on American soil.  Executive Order 12938 was
 issued on Nov. 14, 1994.  Unfortunately this laughable
 "state of emergency" -- which hardly anyone knows about
 -- cannot do much as long as our borders are easily
 penetrated.

 A few years ago I happened to interview a Mexican gun
 runner.  He bragged about his contacts in the Mexican
 underworld.  With a loaded gun lying on the table, he
 philosophized in broad Marxist generalities, hinting at
 the liberation of Mexico, the liberation of the poor and
 downtrodden peoples of the Southwest.  He also mentioned
 his Cuban "friends" and contacts.  He spoke of the day when
 suburban America would be exterminated.  "These people are
 living in a dream world," he told me.  He laughed at
 America's politicians and bureaucrats.

 There is a pattern in all of this.  Gun running and drug
 smuggling along America's southern border is not merely
 criminal.  There is a political and ideological component
 which has long been ignored.  There should be little doubt:
 when terrorism overtakes us, drug traffickers and gun
 runners will have played a key role.

 From a strategic standpoint, Mexico sits at our soft
 underbelly.  Any country waging war with the United States
 would covet a secret alliance with Mexico.  Such an
 alliance would open an avenue of attack.  For this reason
 alone the participation of Mexican wa

[CTRL] Fw: MECHANICS OF DIANA MURDER REVEALED

1999-09-23 Thread Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General

 -Caveat Lector-

-Original Message-
Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 5:57 AM
Subject: MECHANICS OF DIANA MURDER REVEALED


>http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html
>
>
>MECHANICS OF DIANA MURDER REVEALED
>==
>
>(CNNS,  03/23/99)  --  A  new  report  in  the  National Examiner
>provides nuts-and-bolts info on  the  assassination  of  Princess
>Diana.   ("Hit  Squad Assassinated Di," by Art Dworken.  National
>Examiner, 3/23/99.)
>
>Princess Diana was killed on  August  31,  1997, in what was then
>referred to as a "car accident."  However, widespread  skepticism
>existed  from  the start, with many convinced that Lady Diana was
>murdered.
>
>Piecing  together  the  National  Examiner  story,  the following
>scenario unfolds:
>
>(1) Henri Paul,  driver  of  the  Diana  death-mobile, was on the
>payroll of MI-6 (British intelligence), as an informer.  Mr. Paul
>reported  to  British  intelligence,  for  example,  on   several
>meetings   held   between  Mohamed  Al  Fayed  and  "a  notorious
>international arms dealer" (Adnan Khashoggi?), at the Ritz Hotel,
>in Paris.
>
>(2) Richard Tomlinson, a "renegade British spy,"  now  hiding  in
>Switzerland,  says  he has seen documents describing an MI-6 plan
>to murder Slobodan  Milosevich,  the  Yugoslav Lincoln.  The MI-6
>"Kill Milosevich" plan included the detail, "The accident  should
>happen  in a place where the chance of fatal injury is as high as
>possible -- like a tunnel."
>
>(3) Shortly before Diana's  death,  MI-6 agents arrived in Paris.
>One of these agents went  to  the  British  Embassy  right  after
>Diana's "accident" and fed them disinformation.
>
>(4)  Diana's  Mercedes would not normally have gone into the Alma
>tunnel, but was somehow  forced  to  detour  into it.  The normal
>route was either suddenly blocked, or Diana's car was steered  by
>hounding motorcycles into the tunnel of death.
>
>(5) Waiting for Diana's car were "rogue intelligence agents loyal
>to  the British monarchy."  Reported by witnesses was a brilliant
>flash of light seen just prior  to  the car crash.  That flash of
>light was "a high-powered laser beam used  to  temporarily  blind
>the driver of the target vehicle."
>
>(6)  Additional  information  from  the  Exegesis  web  site (not
>included in the  National  Examiner  article)  shows that a fetus
>carried by Princess Diana, apparently the  result  of  her  union
>with  Dodi Fayed, was taken from her womb and destroyed while she
>was in the ambulance,  enroute  to  the hospital.  According to a
>report carried by Exegesis, it took 67 minutes for the  ambulance
>to  travel  from  the  Alma tunnel to the hospital, a distance of
>under 4 miles. ("Who Are the Real Stooges?" Exegesis web site)
>
>The  question  arises  as   to   how   "rogue"  were  the  "rogue
>intelligence agents" who implemented Diana's murder.  The "rogue"
>status may be real, or may be a  cover  available  to  facilitate
>"plausible denial."
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[CTRL] Fw: Trend Virus Report

1999-09-23 Thread Ric Carter

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 11:26 PM
Subject: Trend Virus Report


*
 V I R U S  R E P O R T

   (by The Trend Micro US Virus Research Group)
*
-
Date: 09.21.99  Issue: 9.5
-

HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO WIN A TREND GOLF SHIRT AND PEN. FIND OUT HOW
http://www.antivirus.com/trendsetter/virus_report/gift.htm

THIS WEEKS WINNER IS DEBBIE COOPER. CONGRATULATIONS

For the html version of this report:
http://www.antivirus.com/trendsetter/virus_report/

Issue Preview:

W97M_SUPPL and TROJ_SUPPL
10 Most Prevalent ITW Viruses Surveyed by Trend US
Top 10 Viruses that most concern Trend US Customers
September'99 Watch for Christmas and Y2K malware

*

1. W97M_SUPPL/TROJ_SUPPL - 163 hours until destructive payload activates
-
This new virus is distributed via e-mail in an empty Word 97 document. Upon
opening the SUPPL.DOC file, W97M_SUPPL activates and copies itself to the
Windows directory (as ANTHRAX.INI). Once an infected system is rebooted,
TROJ_SUPPL starts to spread itself  by attaching the SUPPL.DOC file to every
outgoing message. After a system has been infected for 163 hours, TROJ_SUPPL
runs its destructive payload, which tries to open all files with the .DOC,
.XLS, .TXT, .RTF, .DBF, .ZIP, .ARJ and .RAR extentions and truncate them.

To avoid any potential data loss, we advise all our customers to update to
Trend pattern file 591 or later, which detects and cleans this virus.
Additional information about W97M_SUPPL and TROJ_SUPPL is available on our
website at:
http://www.trend.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=W97M_SUPPL


2. 10 Most Prevalent In-The-Wild Viruses Surveyed by Trend US
  (week of: 09/13/99 to 09/19/99)
-
   1.  TROJ_SKA
   2.  JOKE_FLIPPED
   3.  JOKE_WOW
   4.  JOKE_GESCHENK
   5.  PE_CHOLERA.CTX
   6.  TROJ_Y2KCOUNT
   7.  W97M_CLASS
   8.  TROJ_SMALL.JOKE
   9.  XM_LAROUX
   10. PE_CIH

For the most prevalent viruses for the month of August'99, please visit our
website at:

http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/most_prevalent.htm


3.  Top 10 Viruses Trend customers are most concerned about
 (where systems were not infected)
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   1.  TROJ_Y2KCOUNT
   2.  PE_CHOLERA.CTX
   3.  W97M_MARKER
   4.  TROJ_SMALL.JOKE
   5.  TROJ-AVENGE-1
   6.  TROJ_AVENGE-2
   7.  Lump of Coal Hoax
   8.  W97M_PSD
   9.  W97M_PAGE.A
   10. JOKE_FLIPPED


*
SPECIAL CHRISTMAS and Y2K VIRUS, TROJAN, and HOAX WATCH
September'99 Edition
*

1. TROJ_Y2KCOUNT -- (Fake email from [EMAIL PROTECTED])
-
The TROJ_Y2KCOUNT virus is distributed in a fake email from Microsoft that
claims it to be a Microsoft Year 2000 Counter. Upon execution of the
Y2KCOUNT.EXE file, which is attached to an email message apparently from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], TROJ_Y2KCOUNT displays the following WINZIP error
message:

"Password protection error or invalid CRC32!"

TROJ_Y2KCOUNT then drops several files to the Windows System directory, it
modifies the SYSTEM.INI file, and overwrites the WSOCK32.DLL file in order
to intercept password, login, and username information.

A detailed virus description of TROJ_Y2KCOUNT is available on Trend's
website at:
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/security/sa091699.htm

TROJ_Y2KCOUNT is detected with Trend pattern file 589 or above.


2. TROJ_FIX2001
-
TROJ_FIX2001 is an email worm, that claims to fix the Y2K Internet
Connection problem. However, instead of performing a system check,
TROJ_FIX2001 copies itself to the Windows system folder and modifies the
Windows registry. Once an infected system is rebooted, TROJ_FIX2001 starts
to spread itself in a second email, which follows every outgoing message.

For additional information about TROJ_FIX2001, please refer to:
http://www.antivirus.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=TROJ_FIX2001


3. LUMP OF COAL -- (Fake email warning)
-
Just like many other hoaxes, the Lump of Coal hoax claims to warn users
about an email message, which may arrive on December 25th. According to the
hoax, 

[CTRL] The media have done a remarkable job of screwing with your brains.

1999-09-23 Thread Bard

 -Caveat Lector-

You can wax on about freedom.
You can whine about government rules.
But the only way to change the way things are
is to take action against the Tyranny traipsing all over American lives.

Bard


With the current state of our society as well as the coming Y2K computer bug
we have put together a page of resources to help you deal with this
potential problem.
Be sure to take a look, your life may depend on being well informed.



WHAT'S AHEAD IN THE YEAR 2000?

Roy Masters

Will you be alive after the year 2000? For thirty-eight years I've been
warning you on the radio, on and off, of course, because it would get a
little hairy and nerve-wracking to dwell on the shape of things to come so
far ahead of time. I didn't know the exact date, but I knew it would be at
the end of the twentieth century. I didn't know what would trigger it
either, but I did know we were setting ourselves up for it. We are being
preconditioned for it as anyone with any brains can see.

Joseph Farrah will be joining me later. He is quite well-known in
journalistic circles and I'll have him tell you about his achievements when
he gets here. He works until two o'clock in the morning and may find it hard
to get up this early. He's a very nice fellow, head of the Western
Journalism Center with 200 journalists reporting to him, and I think he
worked for the Washington Post at one time. He started out as a Socialist or
Communist until he woke up and became a good Conservative when he saw where
his liberal friends were leading the nation. Incidentally, those socialists
are the people who have brought this country to its knees with their
serpentine cunning.

There's nothing much we can do about it now other than to prepare ourselves
emotionally and practically insofar as it's possible to weather the storm.
There simply aren't enough of us. We are ruled by a majority. We are not
even ruled by law any more. Everyone likes Mr. Clinton, so they let him off
with the flimsy rationalization that as long as the economy is good we can
forget the law and let him do what he likes. He can even commit crimes. We
have set him above the law and in doing so we have set the stage for chaos.
After all, if he can do as he pleases, so can we. Right?

That's how a lot of people think. Of course that doesn't 't apply to me. If
there were no law, I wouldn't disobey my intuitive knowing of what is
morally right anyway. The law is in my heart. But it's the millennium bug
that engages most of my attention these days. I know that many of you don't
think that it will come to much because you think the government will take
care of you, but the fact is that the government is far from ready to solve
the problem, and as soon as the welfare checks stop arriving, you're going
to see utter chaos. Or maybe it will start when the lights all go out. Just
one thing will set it off; one little thing will trigger it and pandemonium
will sweep across the land.

Of course, if you were all sensible like me and the people I know--calm,
sensible, prepared, rational, truly rational as opposed to the rationalizing
mindset of the liberals--well, you would know how to deal with life as we do
and you would be prepared as we are. But most of you are not; you even have
trouble with the smallest things. Someone steps on your toe and it ruins
your whole day. Or you lose your job and you go into a deep depression; you
have to take a handful of pills or head for the nearest bar. You don't know
how to face ordinary things, and the devastation resulting from the fact
that you can't face simple things properly is cumulative. It keeps adding
up, so the smaller things are, the more you are going to react to them and
the greater will be their effect on you.

But what about the big things? Like the panic we'll be facing with the new
millennium? Anyone with brains can see the horror of things to come,
including the possibility that two-thirds of the human race will not survive
it. I've been talking about it for a long time, but still some of you can't
see it. Well, some of you can and to you I say don't panic. You know how to
deal with reality, and by reality I mean the craziness of the people in the
world, such as the craziness of the people next door and the craziness of
your mom and dad. and the bigger craziness of your government. Or the
un-sanity, not the insanity, because the un-sanity of it all is terribly
frightening and if you are not careful it can drive you insane. It's the
un-sane that drives people insane. The very act of having to deal with it,
even looking at it, drives you into bizarre behavior. Of course, it is not
confusing to itself--to itself, it is sane, but it is confusing to us and we
tend to go into denial. Having to deal with this un-sanity everywhere we
look creates great conflict within us. We are not dealing with insanity.
Insanity in a person can be tolerated with love, passed off with some such
comment as "he

Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-23 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Das GOAT wrote:

> In a message dated 99-09-23 00:27:49 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >Yep.  And, the Sumerian Glyph for the word Annunaki translates to
> >"The Lofty Ones!"
>
> Uh ... Before we get too carried away here, the more mundane
> understanding of the Annunaki and Igigi ("Watchers") in
> Sumerian religion is that they were the northern and southern
> circumpolar stars respectively, "the motionless ones on
> high," in contrast to the predictably cyclic planets on the
> ecliptic (the 7 main deities, in Sitchin's listing).



Wow, neat stuff!   I heard Zecharia tell the audience in a
lecture once that "Anunaki translated formally to 'The Lofty
Ones'"



When the
> Universe was divided up (when Tiamat [and Abzu], the Dragon
> of "Chaos" [and/or her mate] was conquered and carved up like
> silly ylem-putty), "sky-god" Anu got the northern polar
> region, "water/earth god" Ea got the area of the South Pole
> (where he, like Osiris, is to be found still in
> Canopus/Argo), and "war god" Enlil got rule of the ecliptic,
> with the planets subordinated to him by brute force as "king
> of the gods" [like the "Lord of Hosts," meaning General of
> the Army, Yhwh Adonai ha-Tzabaoth].
>


Great info, thanks:)

Also, I used to write it various ways, but in Israel, it's
spelled "YHVH Adonai TZEVAOT" (or Yahweh, our Lord, Host of
Hosts) ...neat, huh? (i.e., how the Hebrews modified it, or how
the language of Hebrew is supposed to be The language given us by
YHVH, and it is the language of the Higher Heavens.  YET the
Sumers seem to have had a very similar culture, language,
traditions, BEFORE there was a Hebrew language!

> Same basic concept held by the ancient Egyptians of the "stellar religion"
> period, as you may discover when reading the oldest Pyramid Texts.

Cool...will do.

Best,

Mike


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[CTRL] **Protecting yourself from home invasion**

1999-09-23 Thread Edward Britton

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All:

In case anyone has not noticed, we live in dangerous times. We live in an
age when the notions of private property and sanctity of human life are
considered, at best, to be abstract concepts and, at worst, to be totally
meaningless. We are a people under attack by the best of the criminal
mind--and then even under the aegis of our own government. More and more,
we are hearing of incidents where the homes of our fellow citizens are
being invaded by anyone from the common street thug to radical factions
within our own police forces. This post and the measures which follow are
designed specifically to SAVE LIVES! Use them at your discretion--and your
responsibility--to help protect yourselves and the members of your family
from unwarranted and hostile attacks.

Keep in mind that, if anyone wants to invade your home and has the
resources to accomplish the task, they will do so. The best you can hope
for, by implementing any or all of these measures, is to gain the precious
time to either manage or mitigate the consequences of attack upon either
you or your families. DO NOT be so arrogant as to assume that you can
effectively prevent entry into your home by anyone!

In reading these measures, you will notice that I have intentionally not
addressed the issue or installation of booby traps. The reason is simple:
each of you are smart enough, by yourselves, to know what type of traps to
use (passive or active) for your own situation, and are conscientious
enough to realize the consequences of their use. I recommend against their
use because I would not want to be responsible for the loss of life or
injury of innocent people. And now, without further delay:

Doors:
All exterior doors should be made of or replaced with solid, windowless
steel or wood at least 1.75 inches thick. All voids within doors should be
filled with sand or concrete, and all door hardware (frames, hinges,
strikes, locks, etc.) should be replaced with the heaviest duty equivalent
available. Any windows immediately to the left, right and/or top of door
(within 36 inches) should be sealed over and their voids filled with sand
or concrete. Horizontal door bolt assemblies should extend to both sides of
the door (with an overlap of the door frame of at least two inches on
either side of the door) and should be attached securely, at four points
per bolt, to the door AND door frame by either eye bolts or clamps. The
bolts themselves should be a minimum of 1/2 inch steel reinforcing bar.
When the door is bolted, there should be no play in the assembly. All doors
should be equipped with battery operated intrusion alarms of sufficient
volume to be heard all over the house.

Windows:
All exterior windows should be covered and bolted with steel wire "diamond"
mesh of at least 16 gauge wire. This treatment should be applied to both
sides of the window, and should be attached at the outermost portion of the
window frame. An outer sheet of 1/2 inch Plexiglass should be applied to
the outside of the window in a manner which makes the window flush with the
exterior of the structure. 2x2 inch "furring strips" should provide an
adequate distance for this purpose with a conventional window. At least one
window (preferably on the back or side of the structure) should be fitted
in a "temporary" manner (as with removable burglar bars) to allow easy
egress in case of fire. All windows should be equipped with battery
operated intrusion alarms of sufficient volume to be heard all over the house.

Eave, gable and foundation vents:
All vents on the exterior of the structure should be fitted with steel
dampers equal to the size of the vent and of a minimum thickness of 11
gauge steel plate. These dampers should be able to be engaged by both
electrical and mechanical means. This should include a damper for the
chimney/fireplace as well as plumbing vents where so equipped.

Walls:
Where permissible, all exterior wall voids should be filled to a height of
at least 36 inches with sand or cement as the structural integrity of the
foundation allows. Solicit the advice of a qualified contractor in this
regard.

Exterior and landscape:
Where permissible, the structure should be surrounded with high shrubbery
(4 to 5 feet) and kept at a distance of 36 inches from the exterior of the
structure. Between the shrubbery and the structure, a barrier fence of
"chicken wire" should be constructed to the same height as that of the
shrubbery. All paths leading up to entrances of the structure should be
bordered by shrubbery which allows no more width than that of two persons
walking side-by-side. Where possible, and in an inconspicuous manner, all
other portions of the landscape surrounding the structure should be
interspersed with barriers (birdbaths, benches, pools, stone walls, wooden
planters, etc.) to limit vehicular approach to the structure.

Passive electronic countermeasures:
The structure should be equipped with a battery operated loudspeaker and
strobe lig

[CTRL] [BRIGADE] McCain's Charge 'Baseless, False, Contemptible'

1999-09-23 Thread Bill Richer

 -Caveat Lector-

Buchanan 2000
For Immediate Release - September 22, 1999

BUCHANAN CALLS MCCAIN'S CHARGE
 'BASELESS, FALSE, CONTEMPTIBLE'

MCLEAN, VA -- Today, Republican Presidential candidate Patrick J.
Buchanan released the following statement:

"Like John McCain, I have family that served in combat in World War II: four
of my mother's younger brothers and Shelley's dad, who won a Bronze Star
under kamikaze attack on the Carrier Cabot. My own uncle, Regis Crum was
at Kasserine Pass in Sicily under Patton and at Anzio where he received a
Silver Star and wounds from which he never fully recovered.

"For John McCain to suggest that I thought that the great cause for which
my four uncles and Shelley's dad and millions of veterans fought and bled
was ignoble is baseless, false, and contemptible. John McCain, a friend,
owes my wife Shelley and me an apology."


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[CTRL] Y2K May Spark Downturn - U.S. Senate Panel

1999-09-23 Thread Hilary A. Thomas

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Wednesday September 22 2:56 PM ET
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/19990922/ts/yk_days_1.html
Y2K May Spark Downturn - U.S. Senate Panel
Full Coverage U.S. Economy
By Jim Wolf

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Year 2000 computer glitch is likely to trigger
international supply-chain disruptions that may end more than eight
straight years of U.S. economic growth, a Senate panel studying the problem
said Wednesday.

With 100 days left to the year change, the Special Committee on the Year
2000 Technology Problem said it was ``greatly concerned'' about the
international Y2K picture for strategic as well as economic reasons.

``Severe long- and short-term disruptions to supply chains are likely to
occur'' as a result of Y2K-related system failures, it said in its 288-page
report.

``Such disruptions may cause a low-to-moderate downturn in the economy,
particularly in industries that depend on foreign suppliers,'' the panel
said. The U.S. economy, a locomotive for the world, has been expanding
since March 1991.

But John Koskinen, President Clinton's chief adviser on Y2K, said he
expected Y2K to have no ``significant'' impact on the U.S. economy, citing
what he called a consensus of forecasters.

At worst, Y2K-related tangles might shave one or two tenths of a percentage
point off U.S. economic growth in the first quarter of 2000, he said in a
telephone interview with Reuters.

Most of U.S. trade was with developed countries, ``and they're doing
relatively well'' in preparing, Koskinen added.

``While the committee has become increasingly confident about U.S. Y2K
preparedness, it has become increasingly concerned about international
preparedness,'' said the report, the panel's last before the clocks tick
over to 2000.

At issue is the coding glitch that could cause older computers and embedded
chips to mistake 2000 for 1900 starting Jan. 1. Unless fixed, this could
play havoc with everything from cash machines to telephones to power grids.


GREATEST OVERSEAS CONCERNS

The committee listed its greatest concerns as China, Russia, Italy plus a
handful of U.S. oil suppliers: Venezuela, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Colombia
and Kuwait.

``Several important U.S. trading partners are severely behind in addressing
the Y2K problem ... and are not likely to avoid significant disruptions,''
the report said.

Other countries' Y2K-related problems may wash up on U.S. shores ``in the
form of recession, lost jobs or requests for international assistance,'' it
added.

Committee Chairman Robert Bennett, a Utah Republican, cited a ``strong
possibility'' that Y2K would tip the rest of the world, along with the
United States, into a ``slight economic downturn.''

In addition, Bennett foresaw a ``slight'' possibility of a global recession
-- at least two straight quarters of negative growth -- due to Y2K-related
disruptions, committee spokesman Don Meyer said in an e-mail reply to a
query from Reuters.

At a news conference, Bennett compared Y2K's potential domestic fallout
with the harm to U.S. farmers sparked by the Asian economic crisis that
began in Thailand in July 1997. Prices for many U.S. crops are at their
lowest in decades because of huge supplies and weak foreign demand.

``I think that would be the model that we could look to as to what could
happen,'' he said. ``But there is no really reliable model because the
world has never gone through anything like this before.''

U.S. SHORTCOMINGS

The committee, which has held about 30 hearings and heard testimony from
more than 150 witnesses, voiced deep concerns about the lack readiness of
U.S. health care facilities, state and local government operations, schools
and small businesses.

In addition, it said local and regional power outages remained a ``distinct
possibility'' in some parts of the United States. Both Koskinen and the
chief trade group for U.S. electricity suppliers disputed this assessment.

All available data suggest any Y2K-related outages ``will be highly
localized and of short duration,'' said John Castagna of the Edison
Electric Institute, which represents most major electricity suppliers.
Panel vice chairman Christopher Dodd, Democrat of Connecticut, said a major
U.S. concern remained the Medicaid system, the combined federal and state
health-care program for the poor, elderly and disabled. It ``still needs
some work in about 23 to 25 states,'' he said.

The panel also highlighted fears about possible ``trap doors'' that could
have been stitched into the millions of lines of U.S. computer codes
overhauled overseas to clean up Y2K issues.

If a ``trap door'' were inserted into key network software under the cloak
of a Y2K repair, for instance, an adversary could gain access for years
without anyone being the wiser, the panel said.

ITALY CITED AS CONCERN

The panel cited Italy as a particular concern, partly because of the
throngs expected to converge on the Vatican to mark the 2,000th anniversary
of the birth of Christ.

Specific areas of concern are

[CTRL] Spooky Boys With Spooky Toys

1999-09-23 Thread David Crockett Williams

 -Caveat Lector-

excerpt reference:

<<...a covert military group "specializing in
dissemination of disinformation," collectively known as the "Aviary." >>

From: Remy C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: endsecrecy list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [endsecrecy] Spooky Boys With Spooky Toys
Date: Thursday, September 23, 1999 7:21 AM

From: http://www.umsl.edu/~skthoma/offline.htm
Offline Illumination; Steamshovel Press

Spooky Boys With Spooky Toys
by Uri Dowbenko

Future War: Non-Lethal Weapons in Twenty-First Century Warfare
by Colonel John B. Alexander, US Army (Retired)
(1999, St. Martin's Press, 254 pp.. $24.95)

Colonel John Alexander never met a war he didn't like.

As an unofficial spokesman for the Military-Industrial Complex, Alexander
has written a book called Future War in which he continues to ply his
trade -- promoting war -- and most importantly advocating those
all-important expendables called "weapons systems."

The oxymoronic "non-lethal weapons" which Alexander touts are anything but.
They include exotic systems like electromagnetic weapons, chemical and
biological warfare, so-called physical restraints like goop guns, etc.,
acoustic weapons, as well as information warfare technologies, which include
good old-fashioned military propaganda -- like his book itself.

Without questioning the wrong-headed abstruse US Government policies of
war-making, he includes a brief history of War's Greatest Hits in a chapter
called "Are We the World's Police Force?"

Alexander's answer is an unequivocal yes. These include -- Restore Hope:
Somalia; United Shield: Somalia Round II; Uphold Democracy: Haiti; Bosnia;
The Idaho Rebellion (just kidding).


Internet Bashing
In a chapter called "Information Warfare," Alexander sounds the alarm
about -- you guessed -it -- the "dangers of the Internet." You see, those
nasty hackers, crackers and phrackers are out to get the Information
Infrastructure.

How do we know? Alexander says so. "It is predicted that anti-hacker
software sales will increase from $1.1 billion in 1995 to greater than $16
billion in 2000," he writes. "The President's Committee of Critical
Infrastructure Protection noted the increased likelihood of computer
terrorism and recommended that research and development, now $250 million
annually, should be increased $100 million per year until $12 billion is
provided on a yearly basis."

No matter what the "security" problem, all we need to do is spend more
taxpayer dollars on the Military-Industrial Complex.


Secret Life of John Alexander
Virtually disregarded in this book is Alexander's spooky background as a
Psy0ps (or psychological operations) expert, as well as a psychic warfare-
mind control operative.

According to Alex Constantine, author of Virtual Government (Feral House,
1997), Colonel John Alexander has displayed a long term interest in the
paranormal and "has actively promoted psychic metal bending among government
personnel using the techniques pioneered by Jack Houck of
McDonnell-Douglas."

Before his "retirement," Alexander had a 32-year career in the Army,
including a stint as director of Advanced Systems Concepts Office, US Army
Laboratory Command Alexander was also chief of the Advanced Human Technology
Office & Security Command (INSCOM) and ran the "non-lethal" weapons lab at
Los Alamos in New Mexico.

Alexander allegedly also has a doctor's degree in thanatology, the science
of death.

British reporter Armen Victorian concludes that John B. Alexander is an
active operative assigned to a covert military group "specializing in
dissemination of disinformation," collectively known as the "Aviary." In a
recent interview, David Morehouse, author of Psychic Warrior, (St. Martin's
Press, 1996) reports that "Alexander was a Special Forces officer in Vietnam
who commanded a Montagnard battalion. Others say he was a member of the
Phoenix Project [the notorious CIA assassination program]. When he came out,
he worked with the intelligence community and he never left."

Later Alexander led a CIA harassment campaign against Morehouse. Alexander,
the "retired" colonel working for the CIA, Jim Schnabel and Joe McMoneagle
were all actively involved in spreading disinformation Campaign against him
on the Internet, says Morehouse.


Politically Incorrect Warrior
And why was Morehouse harassed? Morehouse was a whistleblower who wrote a
book called Non Lethal Weapons: War Without Death (1996, Greenwood
Publishing) with a politically incorrect perspective. "Conventional weaponry
is designed to kill. The new hybrid conventional weaponry is designed to
maim. Non-lethal weaponry, by this definition, must be anti-materiel and not
anti-personnel," said Morehouse in a recorded interview.

"My book takes a very philosophical approach to the concept of non-
lethality," Morehouse continues. "It talks about what conventional weapons
have done in this century. They've taken the lives of 170 million innocent
human beings' lives -- doctors, lawyers, professors, housewives

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans

1999-09-23 Thread Ric Carter

 -Caveat Lector-

- Original Message -
From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Many power plants in Florida are built on sacred
> sitesWeeden Island in St Petersburg Florida one such,
> and the dirty bastards, when they can't utilize it for their
> own power, many times situate landfills on top of the holy
> sites...off with their heads.

Every invader desecrates the 'holy' sites of their predecessors.
Athabaskans [Navajo & Apache] invaded the SW and desecrated Hopi
holy sites.  Spanish Catholics invaded and desecrated Navajo holy
sites.  WASPs invaded & desecrated Catholic holy sites.  NewAgers
invaded and desecrated Prod holy sites.  And on and on and on...
If your deities can't protect your holy sites from the invaders,
what good are your deities?  How holy are those sites?  Where is
your sacred strength/power when you really need it?  Abandoned
by the gods, your prospects are bleak.

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[CTRL] FW: Origins Of HIV

1999-09-23 Thread Bard

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If the choice is Al Gore or George W., there is really no choice at all.
The first will take you to hell in the fast lane,
the other will take you there in the slow lane.
Either way, your destination is the same
-- you're still on the highway to hell.

Visit:  http://www.infowars.com

Bard

-Original Message-
From: Vikki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 3:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: Origins Of HIV



-Original Message-
From: David Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: Origins Of HIV


>Congratulations, Dr. Horowitz, for another excellent example of common
sense;
>something I see not very often.  Your message is timely, and it is
necessary.
>Please, do not ever hesitate to continue to spread this word; those who
will
>kill at the drop of a vaccination need to be exposed for the scum they are,
and
>you have done much to see that this happens.
>
>I am also happy to see the reference to Ozone treatment.  I personally know
of a
>number of people who have cured cancer using such, and I understand that
they
>have been using this in Europe to curtail, and possibly cure, AIDS for over
10
>years.  Of course, it must be just an accident, perhaps an oversite, that
the
>use of AIDS to treat such is 'illegal' within the United States.  God Bless
you,
>and your work.  David G.
>
>Dr. Len Horowitz wrote:
>
>> Gary Krasner sent an internet memo regarding "Origins of HIV" in which he
>> criticized Dr. Horowitz, his colleagues, including Dr. Alan Cantwell, and
>> Dr. Horowitz's efforts in our bestselling book
>> "Emerging Viruses: AIDS and Ebola--Nature, Accident or Intentional?"
>>
>> Mr. Krasner's memo has been posted, along with the following reply from
Dr.
>> Horowitz, on the FTP file of our website on www.tetrahedron.org.
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your interest and support.
>>
>> Response from Dr. Horowitz:
>>
>> Dear Gary,
>>
>> Thank you for giving my work in "Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola--Nature,
>> Accident, or Intentional?" so much critical attention.
>>
>> In most corners, however, the scientific community, and the grassroots,
have
>> endorsed my work because, unlike Dr. Duesberg's, and now yours, I lay out
>> hard evidence in U.S. government documents to back my assertions. Though
>> your lengthy internet memo is compelling for those able to be deceived,
>> where is your documentation?
>>
>> Who backs my work? For example, last week I got a call from Major General
>> Caleb Gwambo, the Office of the President, Nairobi, Kenya. He called to
>> thank me after purchasing 32 copies of "Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola".
He
>> gave them to the top political and public health leaders in his country.
>> They reviewed the documentation and decided to stop the World Health
>> Organization's experimental vaccine programs there. Have you and your
>> colleagues made such an impact?
>>
>> Maj. Gwambo then passed the phone to their top AIDS scientist, Basil
>> Wainwright, Ph.D., who was persecuted and jailed in the United States for
>> advancing highly effective alternative medicine--oxygenation
therapies--for
>> cancer and AIDS. Both thanked me royally for the "likely hundreds of
>> thousands, if not millions," of lives they said my work will save!
>> You imply I am unsupportive to alternative medicine?
>>
>> I do not have the time to address the several basic unsubstantiated
>> arguments you aim at my work. Readers of my book can gain these rebuttals
>> and draw their own conclusions. I would, however, like to show you, and
>> those interested, how off-base you are in your criticisms of me, and in
your
>> "conspiracy theory" that places me at the center of the Hegelian
dialectic
>> that I first exposed in the AIDS arena.
>>
>> Your fundamental criticism, repeated in this most recent internet memo,
is
>> absurd, totally false, and publicly misleading. You write that:
>>
>> "One can just as easily postulate that Horowitz is the antithesis, put
out
>> by the NCI scientists to promote HIV=AIDS among the very constituency
that
>> would ordinarily be attracted to Duesberg's arguments (the wholistic,
>> anti-vaccine, anti-medical crowd)."
>>
>> Gary, if you truly kept up with my work, that is, got a life beyond your
>> incessant fixation to deride my efforts, you might have read my
statements
>> in my ninth book, "Deadly Innocence," published in 1993 in which I
>> supported, as a wholistic minded health professional, Dr. Duesberg's
basic
>> thesis. Now again in my latest book, "Healing Codes for the Biological
>> Apocalypse," I do the same. Here, after reading Dr. Lo's 1993 patent on a
>> "Pathogenic Mycoplasma," obtained from AIDS patients, for the American
>> Registry of Pathology in collaboration with the Armed Forces Institute of
>> Pathology, being familiar with Dr. Nicolson's great work, I published:
>>
>> "Lo's patent filing also revealed a fascinating and important finding
that,
>> like Dr. Duesberg 

[CTRL] Fwd: Text of Ashbrook Letters/Coherent, Logical, IMPORTANT!

1999-09-23 Thread Kris Millegan





9.23.99
Text of Ashbrook Letters/Coherent, Logical, IMPORTANT!


Here are two letters written by alleged Ft. Worth mass shooter Larry
Gene Ashbrook, to the city editor of the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram.

The ongoing "spooky" harassment experienced by Ashbrook beginning during
his service in the Navy, as he recounts in these letters, is quite
astounding and CERTAINLY worthy of scrutiny in light of the horrific
events at Wedgwood Baptist Church on September 15.

The comments interspersed in the reprinted letters below were written by
a NewsHawk respondent who uses the screen name MKULTRA.


- - - - - - - - - - -
Here's the text of the letters by Larry Ashbrook that were reported on
Matt Drudge's website.

In the first one, he indirectly refers to the Hegelian Principle which
is Thesis, Anti-Thesis and Synthesis; next he refers to a string of
murders which took place (and still are) along an Interstate Highway in
the South and then he describes being drugged and threatened into silence.

--

City editor Stephen Kaye
Fort Worth Star-Telegram
400 W. Seventh St.
Fort Worth, Texas, 76102
July 31, 1999


Sir:
I am interested in relating to you some events I have experienced. If
these events are true, then they would indicate a serious injustice
against me. Specifically: the denial of due process for me in the
investigation of me as a suspected serial murderer. I use the term
-investigation- loosely. It was not so much an investigation as it was a
continuous interference in my life and employment for a period of
possibly twenty years.

Three operative terms apply to this situation:

First; rumor control, this was one method by which those investigating
me used to create problems for me:

Second: Psychological warfare, this was the general mode of of operation:

Third: Plausible deniability, the ideas those involved would proffer in
order to divert blame from themselves.

The first experience I had which became a clue to my future problems
occurred in July of -79.- Soon after reporting to a deployment site with
the U.S. Navy squadron, I attended a social event. While there I was
pulled aside by a young man who was in that squadron and he asked me
some odd questions. The questions involved the murder of someone I had
no knowledge of. The tone of his questions became almost accusatory.
This was the first of three similar events which occurred during my
active duty with the Navy from -79- to -83.- What I eventually began to
wonder was if there were any reason for me to be a suspect in any
murder. As I now know, there were several abductions or murders of young
women in Fort Worth and Arlington during the -70s- when I lived in the area.

After I moved back to Fort Worth in -84- the odd events became a major
problem in my life and occurred both on and off the job. The seriousness
of the events and the humiliation I suffered made it impossible for me
to keep a job.

The most pronounced situation began soon after I began work at the
Photo-Etch Company in 1986. Shortly after I was hired as a machinist I
was put on the evening shift with another employee who was hired about a
week after me. We were the only workers at the company during that
shift. At some point around September of that year in the evening I was
taking a break when the other employee walked up to me and made a
somewhat veiled indirect threat. It went like this: -I have a lot of
friends on the police force, in fact I know a woman police officer who
can kick your (deleted) all over the place.- This was the beginning of
continuous troubles on the job at that company. When I attempted to
remedy the problems through the proper channels I got no where. The
troubles included minor physical abuse and general disrespect by another employee.

Eventually after about six months of the situation I was visited by the
owners son. He identified himself as the one who oversees the machine
shop (even though I had never met him) and he called me a liar
concerning what was happening on the job. It was obvious then that there
was nothing I could do to remedy the situation and I quit to look for
another job.

During the period of unemployment that ensued the most blatant event
occurred. At that time in my life I was not dating, socializing or
spending much time with others. One evening I decided to go out for a
beer and I ended up at a nightclub on East Lancaster. After I had been
there for a few minutes a man came and sat next to me at the bar. All
that I recall of him is that he talked about he had been in the U.S.
Army special forces. During the time we talked I began to feel slightly
sick so I went to the restroom. After a short time I felt better;
however as I returned to my seat I became very dizzy and passed out.
Never before had I experienced such an event. I was particularly
conscious and was aware that I as dragged out to the back of the bar by
several men. Eventually I told them that I believed that I had been
drugged and would the

[CTRL] Fwd: Re: [CIA-DRUGS] Report to Solari Network: Mind Control Website

1999-09-23 Thread Kris Millegan





From: Brian Downing Quig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Those interested in Mind Control should note the activities of  Terry Linzner,
the attorney who represented MKUltra's director Dr. Sidney Gottlieb before the
the CHURCH COMMITTEE.  The day after the OKC bombing Linzner shows up in OKC
being paid by Bill Clinton.  His mission was to retract the primary scapegoat
scenario --- that the mid easterners running in front of the building did it
with help from Elohim City.  Because all the bombs did not go off in the
building the plot needed to be minimized until the building could be destroyed.
Just like with the JFK assassination the plot started out big and ended with one
guy did it when things went wrong.

Thanks to the prostitute press it looks like Linzner will be as successful this
time around as he was keeping the raps on MKUltra in 1976.

For the most heinous drug crime of the century http://www.dcia.com.  For drug
related current events http://www.dcia.com/mission.html.

Brian Downing Quig

Catherine Austin Fitts wrote:

> From: "Catherine Austin Fitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> To the Solari Network:
>
> At last, there is an comprehensive and professionally done website on mind
> control for those of you interested in learning how to protect yourself and
> your family from these risks, particularly those interested in understanding
> school killings.
>
> CIA-Drugs List: quite relevant to mules, courier and databanking for CIA
> drug trafficking.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Below please find a website with many links on the topic of mind control.
>
> Sincerely,  Neil Brick
>
> PS This may be triggering for survivors of RA/MC.
>
> from http://www.aches-mc.org/mind_control.html
>
> Since at least 1945, hundreds, if not thousands of American and Canadian
> victims (primarily female) have been physically and sexually tortured,
> locked
> in cages, sadistically brainwashed with electricity, drugs and experimental
> military technologies, and programmed to perform specific tasks including
> crimes.
> Some were selected before birth, and tortured throughout infancy. For others
> the process began later in childhood or adulthood. Survivors' stories are
> remarkably similar, and it is believed that we are now entering an era where
> third generation human subjects are being subjected to torture to induce
> mind
> control programming that begins in infancy. All of this is done in the name
> of "National Security". The documented acts of torture and atrocity carried
> out by Nazi physicians under the Third Reich have been systematically
> exceeded by those conducting covert mind control experiments on human
> subjects in North America since the end of the last World War and beginning
> of the Cold War. While publicly condemning the race hatred and death camps
> of
> the Third Reich, the American and Canadian governments have been harboring a
> concentration camp without walls on this continent.
>
> Survivors, now in their thirties, forties and fifties are discovering
> themselves to be functioning as multiple personalities -- intentionally
> created to serve (body, mind and soul) as "Manchurian Candidates". Once
> selected, we have been used as human lab animals -- some of us have been
> used
> throughout our lifetime in one externally controlled and monitored
> experiment
> after another.
>
> These experiments are in total defiance of the laws of nature, the Nuremburg
> Code (which has been "official" American policy since 1946), the Hippocratic
> Oath, and the judicial system. They are also in total defiance of the
> guidelines for federally funded biomedical and behavioral research involving
> human subjects. However, members of the medical and behavioral research
> communities (bound by vested interests and threats to their professional, if
> not physical, lives) have been reluctant to publicly and academically
> address
> this situation. Consequently, at this moment, an aristocratic few (those
> most
> knowledgeable about behavior control and mind manipulation) are allowed to
> reach among those less privileged and select their experimental fodder.
>
> In March of 1995, Valerie Wolf, M.S.W., and two of her clients who had been
> subjected to mind control experimentation since early childhood appeared
> before the President's Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments.
> After consulting with forty other therapists across the country (the
> majority
> of whom remained anonymous for reasons of personal safety), Ms. Wolf
> documented in writing the names of the research projects and the names of
> the
> people involved.
>
> The two survivors, Claudia Mullen and Chris DeNicola Ebner, testified that
> as
> victims they experienced electric shock, hallucinogens, dislocation of
> limbs,
> sadistic acts of pedophilia, hypnosis and sensory deprivation. Often they
> were locked in cages for long periods of time. At the con

[CTRL] [Fwd: [FN] With Respect and Honor]

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

Mike Wicks wrote:
>
> In memory;
>
> 9.23.1973  Philip Black Elk - AIM supporter killed when his house
>exploded.
>No investigation.
>
> http://www.aics.org/justice/camp.html
> ¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤
> = There are none so blind  American Indian Cultural Support =
> ¤ as those who will not see P.O. box 1783   ¤
> = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lutz, FL=
> ¤  http://www.aics.org/index.html33548-1783 ¤
> =  http://www.mindspring.com/~mike.wicks/index.html =
> ¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤>=<¤

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[CTRL] OEN 9/23/99

1999-09-23 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe
-
Today's Lesson from Under the Net

by Iris Murdoch


I awoke what seemed to be days later and found that in fact it was only
half past eleven. It took me some time to remember why I was feeling so
miserable, and I looked for several minutes at the gilt crown, which I
had been clutching in my hand while I slept, without being able to
recall what it was or how I came to be holding it. When the sorrowful
events of the more recent past came back to me I set myself wondering
what I ought to do next. The first thing seemed to be to get myself as
far as a chemist and take something for my headache. I did this. Then I
quenched my raging thirst at a water foundtain. The quenching of thirst
is so exquisite a pleasure that it is a scandal that no amount of
ingenuity can prolong it. After than I sat on a bench at Hyde Park C
orner rubbing my head, and trying to make a plan.

It was by now perfectly clear to me that my previous pattern of life was
gone forever. I can take a hint from the fates. What new pattern would
in due course emerge I had no means of telling. Meanwhile there were
certain problems which would undoubtedly give me no rest until I had at
least made some attempt to solve them.
=

Russian Follies

Shady Politicians for the Shadow Economy

Zhirinovsky believes in true democracy.

VLADIMIR ZHIRINOVKSY, the ultra-nationalist Russian politician, has
unveiled a list of dubious figures as his party's candidates for the
forthcoming elections, saying he wants to see the "shadow" economy
represented in parliament.
He has selected a Siberian metal magnate wanted by police on suspicion
of links to contract murders and a host of businessmen who have had
run-ins with the law. A seat in the Duma, the lower house of parliament,
gives immunity from prosecution, which is thought to attract doubtful
characters into politics.

Mr Zhirinovsky's Liberal Democrats are the third largest group in the
Duma with 49 seats - about 10 per cent. Number two in the party list is
Anatoly Bykov, an infamous figure in Siberia's Krasnoyarsk region,
wanted by police in connection with an inquiry into two contract
killings and a separate case of money-laundering.

A former boxer and now head of an aluminium plant, Mr Bykov has in the
past year been the subject of more speculation about alleged links to
the underworld than almost any other Russian businessman. Mr Zhirinovsky
seems relaxed about Mr Bykov. He said: "We would like to see members of
the shadow economy among us because they represent the real and powerful
economy."

Another colourful character standing for the Duma from Mr Zhirinovsky's
party is Dmitry Yakubovsky, a well-connected lawyer convicted of
stealing manuscripts from the Russian national library in St Petersburg
and torturing a cellmate.


The London Telegraph, Sept. 23, 1999


The Japanese Yen

IMF: Down Yen! Down Boy!

Mussa says: Print money. Please.

WASHINGTON - The International Monetary Fund warned Wednesday that the
soaring yen could hurt Japan's economic recovery, and it urged the Bank
of Japan to print more of its currency in order to halt the yen's
appreciation against the U.S. dollar and the euro.
The warning came from Michael Mussa, the IMF's chief economist, who
nonetheless forecast an improving world economic outlook, with 1999
global growth upgraded to 3 percent from the IMF's last projection of
just 2.3 percent.

In the year 2000, global growth should be running at a rate of 3.5
percent, the IMF economist said at a news conference here.

The 1999 growth figure was higher than the number contained in a leaked
version of the IMF's annual World Economic Outlook, which was posted on
a Dutch Web site earlier this month.

Mr. Mussa noted that the newly industrialized Asian economies that were
at the heart of last year's global financial crisis were bouncing back
to recovery, with an especially positive performance by South Korea.

For these Asian countries, the IMF is predicting 1999 growth of 5.2
percent, a much stronger showing than the 2.1 percent the IMF predicted
last May. Likewise, the forecast for 2000 is 5.1 percent, higher than
the previous forecast of 4.5 percent.

As for Japan, Mr. Mussa said that ''we have now had two quarters of
positive growth, signaling a clear end to recession, with significantly
stronger demand.'' But he warned ''there are risks of the recovery being
knocked off course, especially if we were to see a substantial further
appreciation of the yen.''

At the close of trading in New York on Wednesday, the dollar was at
104.055 yen, down from 105.010 yen Tuesday.

Although the Group of Seven wealthy industrial nations are expected to
discuss the yen issue when they meet here on Saturday, Mr. Mussa said
the problem with coordinated G-7 intervention on currency markets was
that it might not be seen by markets as being backed by monetary policy.


Unless there 

[CTRL] Fwd: Native American Sacred Spots/Federal Malfeasance Re: Tribes

1999-09-23 Thread Kris Millegan





9.23.99
Native American Sacred Spots/
Federal Malfeasance Re: Tribes

We're forwarding below an email received from good buddy Cordley in Colorado.

Cordley has some hard-earned insights to offer on the extent to which
Native Americans are STILL getting screwed over by federal bureaucracies
in general, as well as being specifically targeted for harassment and
infiltration by the likes of the FBI in attempts instigate corruption,
dissension and violence; being targeted by intelligence/military
agencies seeking to use reservations for covert projects--as these lands
are sovereign nations for the most part not subject to federal laws;
being otherwise targeted in terms of having sacred lands and power spots
snatched away by spooky military/intelligence agencies seeking to gain
possession of such locations as sites for (often esoteric, highly
advanced) research and experimentation.

One example of the latter situation is evidenced by the fate of the
Cahto tribe in Northern California.

A small tribe comprised of little more than a couple of hundred members,
as recently as the mid-1960s they were forced by federal Bureau Of
Indian Affairs goons to move from their reservation on Cahto Mountain,
on land believed to be a power spot and very sacred to the tribe. The
tribe was relocated to some hard-packed scrub land directly adjacent to
a Mendocino country dump which was a massive toxic waste site (now
closed by court order).

And to what uses have feds put the Cahto's sacred land on the mountain?
Well, the TOP of Cahto Peak has turned into an gargantuan antenna farm
bristling with unusual, peculiar-looking transmitters and antennas of
all kinds, as well as some more common radio towers and satellite-dish receivers.

Roads leading to the impenetrably-fenced upper regions of the mountain
are all blocked off with signs warning against trespassing into the area
posted all round. "Property of the U.S. Government".

Unnatural-looking cloud formations seem to generate often above this
peak, which are then often dosed with contrails from the constant,
numerous military flights in the area (however, there's no KNOWN base of
any kind within 100 miles or so!!) Peculiar low-frequency hums and
vibrations emanate frequently throughout the hills and valleys
surrounding Cahto Mountain.

And the tribe? Forced to give up their home, their way of life and
sacred land and to live at poverty levels "in town", the tribe has been
beset by significant social problems in recent years, in particular (of
course) being targeted by intelligence-connected criminals and gangsters
involved in manufacturing/dealing hard drugs. Word is that these
interests are attempting to infiltrate the leadership of the tribe.


Additionally, the massive, unconscionable and irreversible plundering of
National Forest wildlands, as noted in our article of 9.2.99, can
likewise be seen as a tremendous blow, culturally and spiritually, to
the native inhabitants of North America and their cultural history as
human beings.
John Quinn/NewsHawk Inc.


- - - - - - - - - - - - - 
 Original Message 
Subject: Re: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans
   Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:38:09 -0600
   From: Rocky Mountain Media Collective

For more Native American power spots co-opted by the government, try Gay
Head, Mass. (and immediately-adjacent military base on Nomans Island,
where JFK Jr.'s plane was recently sabotaged); Santa Clara, N.M. or
Alamogordo, N.M.; Four Corners: any one.

Hello!--is anyone imagining all the places where Indian People have lost
their shrines: where the INSLAW program was reassembled (Southern
California's Cabazon reservation), where the nanotech bombs come from,
where the atom bomb was assembled……

Other than the feds, who got all this? The mob, who got their start in
Indian Country during the time of A.B. Fall; the guy who shot Pat
Garrett whose ranch was at White Spring N.M.

Why do you think Indian people pay with their lives every day for the
white guys poisoning the fish, the game and the women? Who were the
first to fall from Listeria, Red Tide? Many American Indians eat a
couple of pounds of salmon a day.

Ask an American Indian if you want to find Federal corruption; they
point at the first uniform they see.

Dope running to reservations is a billion dollar BUSH business. I ran
into that in Tuba City and at White River Res. Ask The Campo tribe who
got a deal with the mob for all the garbage in San Diego.

Just about any 'Black' project comes off Indian Land.

Cordley




Re: [CTRL] Fwd: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

Many power plants in Florida are built on sacred
sitesWeeden Island in St Petersburg Florida one such,
and the dirty bastards, when they can't utilize it for their
own power, many times situate landfills on top of the holy
sites...off with their heads.

Kris Millegan wrote:
>
>   
>
> Subject: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:49:34 +
> From: "NewsHawk Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Organization: NewsHawk Inc.
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>
> 9.22.99
> Re: Cal. Coast Anomalies
>
> Some additional details, received from Jane, who just provided us with
> excellent info on covert subterranean facilities and related operations
> along the California coast.
>
> In particular, her comments towards the end of this note are deserving
> of serious consideration; about the fact so many covert government
> installations are located on land sacred to Native Americans--as is most
> certainly the case with the Montauk project in relation to Montauk
> Pt./Turtle Cove--along with simultaneous indications that native tribes
> are consistently targeted by intelligence agency spooks as well as FBI
> and other fed goons for all kinds of infiltration, harassment,
> discreditation, Machiavellian manipulations, assassinations, illegal
> activities using informants, double agents, stooges and other "assets".
>
> J. Quinn
> - - - - - - - - - - - -
> To: NewsHawk Inc.
>
> Re: Cal Poly -- I was not aware of the origins, but it explains a lot of
> things.
>
> I first learned of odd things going on there, because my college
> boyfriend and I were something of amateur private investigator types,
> and we
> started noticing a lot of odd things going on at Cal Poly. One of them
> is that, at least in the 1970's, there was a spook training school on
> campus. After a while, we started sitting up on the hill above campus
> with high-powered binoculars and watching odd things, or tailing people
> on our own.  We came to the realization that some sort of training
> school was operating out of the basement of the now-demolished business
> building.  I have since had it confirmed by a net contact that there
> was/is a covert ops training center there.
>
> Your information about the power spots does not surprise me.  I had friends
> in the Indian Council in San Luis Obispo, and from them learned that Diablo
> Canyon, the site of the nuclear reactor, was one of these, which was one
> reason they were so upset.  The "master spirit gate" for the West Coast was
> supposedly located on Vandenburg AFB (this corresponds to Montauk AF
> Station's position on the East Coast-JQ).  My Native contacts tell me
> that was "sealed" a few years ago, because of plans of the covert
> government to use it for their own purposes, and a couple of their
> people very narrowly
> escaped being very mundanely killed by some of these folks.   Interestingly,
> my contacts in the Native community are currently based in Ojai, in their
> ancestral power spot, one of the places you mentioned.
>
> I have found from my investigations that there is a string of these "gates"
> up the West Coast.  And nuclear power plants and military installations are
> not idly cited.  The San Onofre power plant south of Los Angeles is said to
> be atop a Spirit Gate.  There is reputed to be one at Pt. Mugu
> (CONFIRMED site of extensive underground facilities at the Naval Air
> Station there-JQ).  Ditto Pt. Conception/Vandenburg; Diablo Canyon.
> Moving up the coast, we next have Esalen,  a "Haunted Spot" near the
> Carmel Mission, Haunted Meadow on the UC Santa Cruz campus, Marin
> Headlands, definitely Bodega Head (Sonoma county), where they tried to
> put a nuclear power plant but encountered too much legal opposition,
> then Fort Ross, north of the Russian River (not far from the notorious
> Bohemian Grove; reliably reported as a site of much covert NWO
> government/psy-ops/ritual-sex-abuse malfeasance-JQ).  These are the ones
> I have heard of. And only those directly on the coast.  I have heard of
> others inland, such as Carissa Plains in San Luis Obispo County.
>
> I didn't discuss this much in the past, since I've noticed that every
> time I said too much, I ended up with hot and cold running spooks in my
> life.  But that works two ways---it confirmed that I was onto things
> that were real. The more I turn up, the bigger and more unnerving this
> gets, and the more puzzle pieces drop into place.
>
> I've also noticed that the NWO types seem to have a BIG stake in controlling
> the Native American community, and can only ask *WHY.*  WHY use and subvert
> their spiritual leaders?  Why try to kill or discredit others?  The answer
> is that they have something the NWO wants, but what?  Whatever it is, you
> can bet that the NWO wants to use it for power and control, because that's
> the only bottom line for them.
>
> Jane

DECLARAT

[CTRL] [Fwd: School of the Americas Funds Renewed]

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

Kay Lee & Joe Hart wrote:
>
> School of the Americas Funds Renewed
> http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpwh1y.htm
>
> By DAVID PACE Associated Press Writer
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congressional negotiators agreed Wednesday to provide
> full funding next year for the School of the Americas, rejecting last
> summer's House vote to slash the budget of the controversial Army school in
> Georgia.
>
> Rep. Jack Kingston, R-Ga., said the House conferees on the fiscal 2000
> foreign operations spending bill voted to accept the Senate's position that
> provided $2 million in the State Department budget to pay the expenses of
> Latin American soldiers who attend the school at Fort Benning.
>
> While the action will not become final until the conference on the entire
> bill is concluded, Kingston said the section covering funding for the
> school has been closed and cannot be reopened.
>
> ``The School of the Americas is in there,'' he said. ``It's survived
> another year.''
>
> The House voted 230-197 last summer to eliminate the $2 million in training
> funds after opponents of the school argued that many of its graduates had
> been linked to human rights atrocities in Latin America. The school had
> survived four previous House votes since 1993.
>
> The school has been the target of a decade-long campaign by religious
> activists upset that graduates of the school were linked to the 1989
> murders of six Jesuit priests and two women in El Salvador.
>
> Father Roy Bourgeois, a Maryknoll priest who has spearheaded the campaign
> against the school, said the conference committee action Wednesday won't
> slow the campaign.
>
> ``We are not going away,'' he said. ``We're going to keep coming back to
> Washington and to the main gate of Fort Benning in greater and greater
> numbers every year until that school is shut down.''
>
> The House conferees voted 8-7 to recede to the Senate position.
>
> Kingston said the House agreed to go along with continued funding for the
> school because members of the foreign operations spending panel did not
> want to lose jurisdiction over the school, which also receives funding from
> the Defense Department budget.
>
> Kingston said House conferees felt that the Pentagon would find a way to
> continue operating the school, even if the $2 million in training funds
> were eliminated.
>
> The $2 million represents about half the school's annual budget. The rest
> comes out of the Pentagon budget, which also pays the salaries of the
> military officers who serve as instructors. Congressional opponents of the
> school estimate it costs the taxpayers $20 million a year.

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[CTRL] [Fwd: Sept. 23, 1999 - NLECTC News Summary]

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

"Engler, Donna" wrote:
>
> NLECTC Law Enforcement & Corrections Technology News Summary
> Thursday, September 23, 1999
>
> The National Law Enforcement and Corrections Technology Center
> (NLECTC) provides the following information as a service to
> law enforcement, corrections, and forensic science
> practitioners.  The summary includes abstracts of articles
> from major national newspapers, business magazines, Web sites,
> national and international wire services, and periodicals
> focusing on law enforcement and corrections technology.
> Please note that providing synopses of articles on law
> enforcement and corrections technology or the mention of
> specific manufacturers or products does not constitute the
> endorsement of the U.S. Department of Justice or NLECTC.
>
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> news summary, please visit JUSTNET at http://www.nlectc.org.
> NLECTC may also be reached at 1-800-248-2742.
>
> Reproduction of this text is encouraged; however copies may
> not be sold, and the NLECTC Law Enforcement & Corrections
> Technology News Summary should be cited as the source of the
> information. Copyright 1999, Information Inc., Bethesda, MD.
>
> ***HEADLINES**
>
> "Computer Security Proposal Is Revised"
> "The Choppers Overhead"
> "U.S. to Use Lab For More Study of Bioterrorism"
> "Pennsylvania Gov. Ridge Announces $1.8 Million to Enhance
> Technology in Crime Laboratories"
> "Departments of Justice and Education Release School Security
> Technology Guide for Education and Law Enforcement Agencies"
> "Phone Companies Get Software to Aid Wiretaps"
> "Fairfax Police Use E-Mail First Time in Murders Probe"
> "ICS Announces Image MASSter SOLO Forensics, the First
> Handheld Portable Hard Drive Duplication and Diagnostic System
> for Law Enforcement Applications"
> "Customs Gets Plane to Thwart Smuggling"
> "CDC Gives States, Cities, $40 Million to Fight Bioterrorism"
> "It Looks Like a Jetta, But it Protects Riders Like a Tank"
> "Irving Police Introduce 'Extreme Pursuit' Vehicle"
> "Every Crime Scene Tells a Story"
> "Turning Cities into Citadels"
> "From Pounding the Keyboard to Pounding the Pavement"
> "Preserving Lawful Electronic Surveillance"
> "Shared Books Nab Crooks"
> "Present and Future of Biometrics"
>
> ARTICLES**
>
> "Computer Security Proposal Is Revised"
> Washington Post (09/22/99) P. A31; O'Harrow Jr., Robert
>
> On Tuesday, the Clinton administration outlined a revamped
> plan to improve the security of government computer systems,
> proposing a compromise between national security interests and
> privacy concerns. The initial plan for the Federal Intrusion
> Detection Network (Fidnet) drew criticism from GOP leaders and
> civil libertarians, who said the system would intrusively
> track computer users who visited government agencies online.
> Fidnet would have used software to detect patterns of
> potentially criminal computer use, relaying the data
> automatically to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The
> revised plan, however, mandates only the collection of
> patterns that are apparently criminal. Also, Fidnet will not
> intrude into private computer systems by creating new links.
> National Security Council spokesman David Leavy believes this
> revised proposal effectively balances national security
> concerns with privacy needs.
>
> --
>
> "The Choppers Overhead"
> Herndon Observer (09/17/99) P. 1; DiGiacinto, Michele
>
> The Fairfax County, Va., Police Department's helicopter
> unit--which includes two helicopters, four former military
> pilots, and 14 officers-paramedics--is capable of support
> during police missions and emergency medical transports. Both
> helicopters have Forward Looking Infrared technology that
> allows the unit to pinpoint suspects or patients from the air
> and direct police or emergency personnel on the ground. The
> unit can assist officers in car chases by taking over the
> radio and allowing the officers to concentrate on driving, and
> can continue pursuits into other jurisdictions by
> communicating and coordinating with those police agencies. The
> unit is constantly updating the extensive training they have
> received. Flight officers-paramedics are able to perform
> procedures other emergency personnel cannot perform without
> permission from the hospital, and pilots are visually and
> instrumentally rated. The unit performs 300 medical transports
> each year, and is credited with saving lives and helping law
> enforcement officials on the ground in effectively capturing
> criminals. The only complaint about the unit is the noise the
> helicopters produce; the pilots are evaluated on noise
> abatement and other flying techniques every six months.
>
> --
>
> "U.S. to Use

Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

Psilocybe Cubensis as doorway.

earthman wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Thanks Bill. It was not the piece I was referring too but very interesting
> anyway.
> Hmmm does it mean we should or should not eat mushrooms?
> Peter
>
> We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
> http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage
> Bargain Books
> http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186&bfpage=b
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Origin of Life on Earth
>
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> >  The first time I saw that proposition was in a book
> > called Magic Mushroom Cultivation...one of the first
> > written, from the seventies...it told first person, from a
> > mycelial networks point of view, of the code it carries from
> > planet to planet via fungus spores.
> >  This idea has since been propounded enormously and that
> > is a good thingthe coverings of fungus spores, which are
> > microscopic, are made of the hardest biological material
> > knownit is supposed these vastly miniature seeds, each
> > carrying within itself 90% of the DNA of everything alive
> > here today, can even withstand even the rigors of
> > space...they of course migrate through the atmosphere, and
> > some even get out of the atmosphere, to be blown along by
> > the slight but extremely persistent solar windand
> > awy we go...there is one mycelial growth out west
> > that covers many hundreds of acres, all underground of
> > course, and has been estimated at 1500 years old I think
> >
> > earthman wrote:
> > >
> > >  -Caveat Lector-
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me with this. I posted on a list that the origins of
> life on
> > > earth came from outer space. I read it somewhere on the web or email and
> it
> > > is has  a specific name. I have been trying to find where I filed it and
> it
> > > is driving me crazy. Can anyone remember what it is called or where a
> site
> > > is that has this..
> > > I knew I would get a bite re the post and I don't want to lose the fish.
> > > Peter.
> > >
> > > We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard
> > > http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/homepage
> > > Bargain Books
> > > http://bn.bfast.com/bfast/click/mid1349732?siteid=10734186&bfpage=b
> > >
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> > > ==
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> > > screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing!  These are sordid
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> outright
> > > frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
> effects
> > > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said,
> CTRL
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> > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and
> outright
> > frauds is used politically  by different groups with major and minor
> effects
> > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
> > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
> readers;
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> > nazi's need not apply.
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Re: [CTRL] Bush's Military-Industrial Complex

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

If any more evidence is needed that he is not just the banks
boy, but the banks Boy George, then I guess we will just
have to wait for his next instructions to manifest
themselveshe is the NWO totality, made so through deals
done by his grandfather way back when, when naziism was
formulated, funded, and created in Germany to spread
throughout the world by the likes of his fascist family.  Do
as I say and not as I do is the Bush credo.  They all need
to be in front of Crime Tribunals of the people, instead of
in front of cameras, and that just shows the depth of
corruption of the video/woodpulp paper media.  With weapons
like these imagine the conflict they will have to sow to
profit from them...they are small minded ignorant pigs whose
power derives from the mass ignorance created by Television
and Hearstian Media.

Das GOAT wrote:
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
> Bush Seeks $20B for New Weapons
>
> By RON FOURNIER
> .c The Associated Press
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) - Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush is
> promising to ``redefine war on our terms'' with a defense policy that pumps
> billions of dollars into the search for new weapons he said would help
> America keep the peace.
>
> Unveiling his plans for the U.S. military in a speech today, the GOP
> front-runner said he would increase spending on research and development of
> weapons, raise soldiers' salaries, develop an anti-ballistic missile system
> and avoid ``vague, aimless and endless'' troop deployments throughout the
> world.
>
> ``If elected, I will set three goals: I will renew the bond of trust between
> the American president and the American military; I will defend the American
> people against missiles and terror; and I will begin creating the military of
> the next century,'' he said in an early draft of his speech to the Citadel
> military academy in Charleston, S.C.
>
> ``The best way to keep the peace is to redefine war on our terms,'' he said.
>
> The two-term Texas governor holds a hefty lead in polls over all Democratic
> and Republican presidential contenders. The address - part of a series of
> speeches designed to spell out his presidential agenda - is an answer to
> critics who say Bush is not ready to be president and that his views on
> public policy are undeveloped.
>
> In advance of his remarks, Democrats warned that Bush wanted to return to the
> policies of Republican Presidents Reagan and Bush, his father. ``He already
> wants a tax cut that would destabilize Social Security and Medicare. Now he
> wants huge defense increases that would threaten education and health care,''
> said Democratic National Committee spokeswoman Patricia Ewing. ``We've
> already lived through huge tax cuts and defense increases that ruined our
> economic prosperity. We don't want to go back to that.''
>
> The biggest price tag in Bush's package is for research and development,
> where Bush would increase spending by $20 billion over five years. The annual
> Pentagon budget is about $270 billion.
>
> In addition, 20 percent of the current budget for weapons and information
> systems should be earmarked for the purchase of weapons that take advantage
> of new technologies, Bush said.
>
> With the end of the Cold War - what he called ``the hard but clear struggle
> against an evil empire'' - Bush said America must take advantage of ``a
> revolution in the technology of war'' to remain strong enough to maintain
> peace throughout the world.
>
> Reagan called Russia an ``evil empire'' when Bush's father was vice
> president.
>
> ``Our challenge is not as obvious, but just as noble: To turn these years of
> influence into decades of peace,'' the governor said.
>
> ``Power is increasingly defined, not by mass or size, but by mobility and
> swiftness,'' Bush said. ``Influence is measured in information, safety is
> gained in stealth, and force is projected on the long arc of precision-guided
> weapons,'' he said. ``This revolution perfectly matches the strengths of our
> country - and the skill of our people and the superiority of our
> technology.''
>
> He vowed to challenge each branch of the armed services to move beyond
> marginal improvements in existing weapons systems to ``skip a generation of
> technology.''
>
> ``This involves spending more and spending more wisely,'' he said.
>
> Bush implied that the Clinton administration has broken faith with U.S.
> troops by paying them too little and putting them in harms' way too often. He
> promised to spend $1 billion a year for years on top of a pay increase
> pending in Congress to increase their salaries, and said he would order a
> review of overseas commitments.
>
> Their mission is ``to deter wars - and win wars when deterrence fails,'' Bush
> said. ``Sending our military on vague, aimless and endless deployments is the
> swift solvent of morale.''
>
> Advisers said Bush has no problem with long-standing commitments to countries
> such as Israel, Japan and South Korea. But 

[CTRL] Fwd: History of the Instant Robbery Service (IRS) [a must]

1999-09-23 Thread Kris Millegan





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By Timothy W. Maier



Insight has obtained a copy of the Internal Revenue Service's top-secret,
authorized history that reveals the agency's mistakes, investigations and
(sometimes) arrogance.


 http://www.insightmag.com/articles/story3.html

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[CTRL] Fwd: More Cal. Coast Anomalies/NWO--Native Americans

1999-09-23 Thread Kris Millegan





9.22.99
Re: Cal. Coast Anomalies

Some additional details, received from Jane, who just provided us with
excellent info on covert subterranean facilities and related operations
along the California coast.

In particular, her comments towards the end of this note are deserving
of serious consideration; about the fact so many covert government
installations are located on land sacred to Native Americans--as is most
certainly the case with the Montauk project in relation to Montauk
Pt./Turtle Cove--along with simultaneous indications that native tribes
are consistently targeted by intelligence agency spooks as well as FBI
and other fed goons for all kinds of infiltration, harassment,
discreditation, Machiavellian manipulations, assassinations, illegal
activities using informants, double agents, stooges and other "assets".

J. Quinn
- - - - - - - - - - - -
To: NewsHawk Inc.

Re: Cal Poly -- I was not aware of the origins, but it explains a lot of
things.

I first learned of odd things going on there, because my college
boyfriend and I were something of amateur private investigator types,
and we
started noticing a lot of odd things going on at Cal Poly. One of them
is that, at least in the 1970's, there was a spook training school on
campus. After a while, we started sitting up on the hill above campus
with high-powered binoculars and watching odd things, or tailing people
on our own.  We came to the realization that some sort of training
school was operating out of the basement of the now-demolished business
building.  I have since had it confirmed by a net contact that there
was/is a covert ops training center there.

Your information about the power spots does not surprise me.  I had friends
in the Indian Council in San Luis Obispo, and from them learned that Diablo
Canyon, the site of the nuclear reactor, was one of these, which was one
reason they were so upset.  The "master spirit gate" for the West Coast was
supposedly located on Vandenburg AFB (this corresponds to Montauk AF
Station's position on the East Coast-JQ).  My Native contacts tell me
that was "sealed" a few years ago, because of plans of the covert
government to use it for their own purposes, and a couple of their
people very narrowly
escaped being very mundanely killed by some of these folks.   Interestingly,
my contacts in the Native community are currently based in Ojai, in their
ancestral power spot, one of the places you mentioned.

I have found from my investigations that there is a string of these "gates"
up the West Coast.  And nuclear power plants and military installations are
not idly cited.  The San Onofre power plant south of Los Angeles is said to
be atop a Spirit Gate.  There is reputed to be one at Pt. Mugu
(CONFIRMED site of extensive underground facilities at the Naval Air
Station there-JQ).  Ditto Pt. Conception/Vandenburg; Diablo Canyon.
Moving up the coast, we next have Esalen,  a "Haunted Spot" near the
Carmel Mission, Haunted Meadow on the UC Santa Cruz campus, Marin
Headlands, definitely Bodega Head (Sonoma county), where they tried to
put a nuclear power plant but encountered too much legal opposition,
then Fort Ross, north of the Russian River (not far from the notorious
Bohemian Grove; reliably reported as a site of much covert NWO
government/psy-ops/ritual-sex-abuse malfeasance-JQ).  These are the ones
I have heard of. And only those directly on the coast.  I have heard of
others inland, such as Carissa Plains in San Luis Obispo County.

I didn't discuss this much in the past, since I've noticed that every
time I said too much, I ended up with hot and cold running spooks in my
life.  But that works two ways---it confirmed that I was onto things
that were real. The more I turn up, the bigger and more unnerving this
gets, and the more puzzle pieces drop into place.


I've also noticed that the NWO types seem to have a BIG stake in controlling
the Native American community, and can only ask *WHY.*  WHY use and subvert
their spiritual leaders?  Why try to kill or discredit others?  The answer
is that they have something the NWO wants, but what?  Whatever it is, you
can bet that the NWO wants to use it for power and control, because that's
the only bottom line for them.

Jane




[CTRL] [Fwd: Fw: Computer amateur discovers Y2K bug solution]

1999-09-23 Thread Bill

 -Caveat Lector-

Have no way of knowing if this is on the level or not...does
anyone know?  Any posotive info should be passed far and
wide.b

Cliff Hume wrote:
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> >To: "Mike Timmins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom Gerken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"Maureen McConnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"Carol Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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> >"basil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Cliff Hume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >"Jim Holly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "E.Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Fw: Computer amateur discovers Y2K bug solution
> >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:07:40 -0500
> >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: spiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Recipient list suppressed 
> >Date: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 11:01 AM
> >Subject: Computer amateur discovers Y2K bug solution
> >
> >
> >>The Jerusalem Post Newspaper: Online News From Israel
> >>http://www.jpost.com/
> >>
> >>Computer amateur discovers Y2K bug solution
> >>
> >>Byline: JUDY SIEGEL
> >>Date: Wednesday, September 15, 1999
> >>Publication: Daily Page: 01
> >>Section: News
> >>Keywords: Computer, Time, Ben-Etzion Yaron
> >>
> >>A computer amateur, who took a six-month programming course 27 years ago
> >and
> >>has since learned applications during his IDF reserve duty, has found a
> >>solution to the
> >>Y2K computer bug that is applicable to all databases.
> >>
> >>The revolutionary solution, for which patents have been applied in the US,
> >>compresses four digits for the 21st century into two symbols, without
> >>interfering with
> >>any years from the 20th century. It accomplishes this by using special
> >>algorithms for
> >>expanding two symbols into four digits and compressing four digits into two
> >>symbols.
> >>
> >>The achievement belongs to Ben-Etzion Yaron, head of manpower and payroll
> >>in the
> >>Hebrew University's department of computerized information systems. It has
> >>already
> >>proven itself in checking for and fixing computer bugs in the department's
> >>listing of
> >>faculty sabbaticals scheduled for the 21st century.
> >>
> >>Yaron received a Kaye Prize for Innovation from the HU last June for a
> >program
> >>that identifies the bugs in programs running only on VAX computers.
> >>Realizing that
> >>this limitation would restrict the use of his invention, he worked day and
> >>night over
> >>the past two months to expand the application to all computers and computer
> >>languages. The only Y2K bugs it cannot fix, he said, are those in computer
> >>components embedded in equipment, such as medical devices.
> >>
> >>The result of his work is Sapir 2000, which makes possible the analysis of
> >>computer
> >>programs written in COBOL, used in the 1970s and '80s for databases that
> >its
> >>developers thought would be abandoned by the end of the century but
> >remained,
> >>with repairs over the years, to cause the Y2K bug.
> >>
> >>Yaron's invention can even identify errors in other programs that have
> >>already been
> >>revamped to cope with Y2K and make corrections, thus providing a kind of
> >>'second
> >>opinion' to ensure that chaos does not ensue after January 1. Sapir 2000
> >>can also be
> >>applied to other situations requiring expansion of existing information to
> >>incorporate
> >>additional digits.
> >>
> >>It is estimated that the time needed by Yaron's program to make databases
> >>compatible with the next century is 15 percent-20% of the time required
> >>using other
> >>solutions.
> >>
> >>Yaron said his program would not become obsolete after January 1. Many
> >>programming errors will appear for years afterward, he explained, 'and
> >>Sapir 2000 is
> >>extremely flexible so it will deal with problems that we can't even realize
> >>today.'
> >>
> >>HU vice president and director-general Moshe Vigdor said that the
> >university's
> >>research and development arm, Yissum, has signed a contract with Magic
> >Software
> >>Enterprises, an international firm that supplies computerized solutions for
> >>companies.
> >>
> >>Magic's local subsidiary is MSE-Israel, whose president and CEO Jack
> >>Dunietz and
> >>managing director Oren Inbar were present at yesterday's unveiling of Sapir
> >>2000.
> >>MSE-Israel will initially market and distribute the new product in Israel
> >>and, if all
> >>goes well, the product will be sold worldwide, mainly via the Internet.
> >>
> >>Inbar said that potential customers may ask MSE-Israel to convert parts of
> >>programs on a trial basis free and pay only if they are satisfied and want
> >>more work
> >>done. MSE- Israel has decided to donate $100,000 worth of developm

[CTRL] Fwd: FBI AND PHINEAS PRIESTHOOD

1999-09-23 Thread Kris Millegan





9.23.99
- Original Message -
From: Kate - The Grid
To: virginia mccullough
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 11:39 PM
Subject: FBI AND PHINEAS PRIESTHOOD


Received from Virginia McCullough; written by her pal Kate Dixon.
Excellent article.

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FBI AND PHINEAS PRIESTHOOD
by Kate Dixon


The FBI has or had an operation running to investigate the PHINEAS PRIESTHOOD!
Source: "Threats to National Security", Statement for the record by
Louis J. Freeh, Director, FBI before the Senate Select Committee on
January 28, 1998:
"As another example, you may be familiar with the FBI's "Rapid
Lightning" investigation. This investigation involved a series of
criminal acts committed by individuals associated with a domestic
terrorist organization known as the Phineas Priesthood. The subjects of
the investigation were responsible for at least two bombing/bank robbery
incidents in Spokane, Washington, in April and July 1996. Three subjects
were arrested in October 1996, and a fourth in 1997. Since then, all
four have been convicted of all eight felony counts for which they were
charged and have received lengthy jail sentences."

Did operation "Rapid Lightning" end? Since various killers such as the
Columbine shooters and Texas Baptist Church shooter claim affiliation
with Phineas Priesthood (part of the Identity movement), did the FBI
have information about these individuals, and moreover about their guns,
and communications.

Who is currently running the PHINEAS PRIESTHOOD? Sometimes the FBI uses
inflitrators or informers when  investigating groups. And this often
results in the FBI's becoming compromised, because it receives
information it rejects, and then is later embarrassed, or it fails to
stop the group's anticipated violence, or the group outwits the FBI, or
the FBI is somehow using the investigation of the group. Aprime example
is that of Carol Howe, who infiltrated the Staussmier right wing group,
affiliated with Timothy McVeigh. Howe gave the FBI data about the
group's activities and plans to commit violent acts and about what
turned out to be John Doe's involved in the Oklahoma City bombing. The
FBI apparently didn't react too quickly or thoroughly to its own
informers' data. The Oklahoma bombing occured. What did the FBI do? The
Department of Justice, assisted by the FBI prosecuted Ms. Howe. She was
acquitted. In the trial of Timothy McVeigh, Howe's testimony about John
Doe's and her FBI role was excluded. In the trial of Nichols, Howe did
testify, and the verdict regarding NIchols may have been more favorable
to him because of her testimony.

Another example of FBI monitoring of a group which turned into
quasi-complicity and then into coverup, was the Guy Bannister operation
at 544 Camp Street New Orleans. Bannister was an FBI agent. He employed
various runners out of 544 Camp. One of these was Oswald, who was
inflitrating the pro-Cuban groups. Oswald past out Fair Play for Cuba
literature near 544 Camp, working as an agent provacateur. Bannister
also worked with Clay Shaw, and David Ferrie. Ater President Kennedy was
assasinated, the FBI went to great lengths to cover up the activities of
Mr. Bannister vis a vis the FBI, and to cover up Oswald's relationship
to the FBI. It appears that Oswald may have received money for
information he provided to the  FBI.

The U.S. Attorneys obtain convictions mostly based on testimony of the
informant, the turn coat, the snitch, and those yearning for federal
witness protection, or an early ticket out of jail. Therefore, the U.S.
attorneys and FBI have very close relationships to the
aforesaid--relationships which often get too cozy and backfire. I think
that FBI's investigation of PHINEAS PRIESTHOOD may be a fumbled investigation.

Kate Dixon




Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Louisiana high school tags students

1999-09-23 Thread K

 -Caveat Lector-

You are quoting from the article I forwarded.  I did not write this.
The author of the article was clearly identified.

Kathleen

On 22 Sep 99, at 19:17, Sno0wl wrote:

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> On 22 Sep 99, , Kathleen wrote:
>
> > On a campus such as ours that is fairly open from all
> > sides, we want to be able to identify our students. It would be very
> > possible for students (from other schools) to come on campus and get
> > among our students, and we would not be able to identify them until some
> > time later. But with the badge, at a glance, we can see if they are ours
> > or if they are not ours."
>
> Privacy issues aside, it seems to me that anyone who was serious about
> getting onto the "campus" could find a way to come up with a badge. Just
> as those who are determined can find ways to get illegal weapons. There's
> really no way to lock up the henhouse...unless, of course, all the places
> where people work, study, and gather are fortified--like prisons, with
> every single person checked at the sentry gate, coming and going. And even
> then
>
>
>
>
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[CTRL] GOLD DEPOSIT in East Timor!?? Kissinger Involved!??

1999-09-23 Thread Lloyd Miller

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Subject:

World'sLargestSingleGoldDeposit:YouWillNeverGuessWhere


http://www.waco93.com  http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/ADL.WACO

COMMUNIQUE  #2188
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Surprise, Surprise, SurFRIGGINprize...

Well wadda ya know...Will wonders ever cease ?

Guess where the WORLDS LARGEST SINGLE
GOLD DEPOSIT just happens to be 

Can you say near EAST FRIGGIN TIMOR ?

And you will NEVER Guess who is behind it ???

Could it be HENRY KISSINGER   No way right ? WRONG !
Kissinger is a member of Louisana based FREEPORT McMoRan
Corporation, the first foreign company granted an operating
permit following the US Coup in 1965 that installed Suharto.

TREPCA all over again ?  Can you believe such a glaring motive
is so obvious yet so unknown by the vast majority of people who
consider themselves EXPERTS on this subject ?  Shows how
IGNORANT most are, and what BLATHER most discussions are !!!
Just like how few CivilWar "buffs" never heard of Judah
Benjamin, the Confederacy's Secretary of War, who retired a rich
man in England!

EXCERPT:

With reserves valued at $40 billion, the Freeport
McMoRan project is the largest single gold deposit in
the world and the third largest open-cut copper mine.

In April 1967 Freeport McMoRan became the first foreign
company granted an operating permit following the
1965-66 U.S.-backed coup that installed General Suharto.
Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger is
credited with having introduced company officials to
President Suharto. It is reported that Mr. Kissinger
sits on Freeport's board, earning $500,000 a year, and
Freeport also retains his law firm, Kissinger and
Associates, for a reputed $200,000 a year.


FROM: http://www.antiwar.com
http://www.twf.org/News/Y1999/0922-Greed.html
TALK about TREPCA TODAY ! http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/trepca

Released September 22, 1999

The Wisdom Fund, P. O. Box 2723, Arlington, VA 22202
Website: http://www.twf.org --
Press Contact: Enver Masud

Greed At Core Of Indonesia's Timor Problem
by Enver Masud

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- At its core the problem of East
Timor, and indeed much of Indonesia, has a lot to do
with greed rather than the Muslim-Christian divide
portrayed in the media.

>From ancient times until the 7th century AD Indonesia
was ruled by various Hindu kingdoms among which the
Majapahit Empire became the most powerful. Sumatra was
then known as the "island of gold, and Java as the
"rice island."

Muslim traders began arriving in the 13th century, and
Islam spread peacefully through the islands. The
descendants of the Hindu kingdoms retreated to the
islands of Bali and Lombok where they flourish to this
day.

With the fall of Muslim Spain in 1492 (as in the
Americas, Africa, and South Asia), came 350 years of
brutal colonial rule and exploitation. First to arrive
were the Portuguese in 1511 AD. The Portuguese were
followed by the Dutch (1602 to 1799 AD), the British
(1811 to 1815 AD), and again the Dutch (1816 to 1908
AD).

The colonial masters took slaves, forced the natives
to grow crops for export which resulted in famines,
and destroyed the thriving inter-island trade.

By 1908 nationalist movements began seeking
self-government, and Indonesia declared independence
on August 17, 1947. Sukarno, a leader of the
independence movement, became president. He was
overthrown in 1965 by Suharto in a U.S. backed
military coup in which it is reported that one million
people, mainly Chinese, were killed.

When the Dutch and Portuguese formally partitioned
East Timor between them in the 19th century, East
Timor remained a part of the Portuguese colony. The
governor of Portuguese Timor, in 1974, granted
permission for political parties, and five emerged.

Said to be lacking popular support Fretilin, the party
seeking independence, resorted to terror, civil war
broke out, and on August 27, 1975 the governor and
Portuguese officials abandoned the capital Dili. The
U.S. armed, trained Indonesian military entered East
Timor to stop a civil war.

Fretilin, supplied with arms from the Portuguese army
arsenal, declared East Timor independent. The four
other parties in East Timor declared their
independence and integration with Indonesia. East
Timor became the 27th province of Indonesia, but this
claim was not recognized by the UN.

Rich in natural resources, Indonesia's primary problem
is the equitable sharing of these resources. Foreign
interests, and internal corruption, add to the
inherent difficulty that while Java is Indonesia's
most heavily populated island, many of the resources
are located in less populated islands.

According to former U.S. Ambassador to Indonesia,
Edward Masters, Indonesia did more in 35 years to
develop barren, infertile East Timor than Portugal did
in four centuries.

Indonesia allocated development funds to East Timor at
a rate six times the national average. In 1975, less
than 10% of Timorese were literate, there were only 50
schools, and no colleges. By 19

[CTRL] Dole on Kids at School (Microcosm of Adults in Society)

1999-09-23 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

 The State is "Big Mother" and we citizens are all her dependent children
...


Dole Wants School Locker Searches

By TOM KIRCHOFER
.c The Associated Press

MELROSE, Mass. (AP) - Reminiscing about her student teaching days while
addressing harsh concerns of today, Elizabeth Dole said Wednesday that order
must be restored to classrooms - even if it means parent-approved locker and
backpack searches and drug-testing of students.

``For drugs and weapons, I say: there will be no place to hide,'' Dole said.

The Republican presidential candidate detailed her education platform at
Melrose High School outside Boston where she was a student teacher in the
1959-60 academic year.

She said parents should be able to choose from a ``rich smorgasbord of
educational choices'' in deciding where to send their children to school

Dole proposed a new tax credit to encourage private support for public and
private schools and also recycled proposals from the Republican Congress for
``education savings accounts'' and for freeing up federal education funds
from federal mandates.

``Take a look at this unwieldy stack of paper,'' Dole said, painting to a
more than 600-page copy of the ``Clinton-Gore'' Elementary and Secondary
Education reauthorization bill.

``This would be a joke if our system were working, but it's no joke,'' Dole
told about 150 students, school officials and senior citizens in the school
library.

Later in her speech, she underscored her point, saying: ``The federal
government has become a truly intrusive regulatory presence sapping state
authority, local control and parental responsibility. Every hour spent on
complying with regulations is time not spent helping teachers and students.''

Dole said that if she is elected president, she would let states and local
school districts choose how most federal money is spent, as long as students'
performance is measured and attained.

Unlike her rival for the GOP nomination, Texas Gov. George W. Bush, Dole did
not spell out exactly how she would leverage federal dollars against failing
schools. Bush, earlier this month, detailed a formula for measuring student
performance, rewarding good schools, and stripping bad schools of federal
support.

Dole also wants to reinforce parents' control of their children's education
and suggested that school-by-school results be posted on the Internet.

`We should allow competition to foster a rich smorgasbord of educational
choices,'' Dole said. ``Whether it's opportunity scholarships for students in
failing schools, or charter schools or home-schooling, we should empower
parents to make choices as long as their choices get results.''

Dole said schools must be made safe for students and kept drug-free. To
attain that, she called for parent-approved locker and backpack searches and
drug testing.

``The lives and bright futures of all students depend on our watchful care,
at home and at school,'' she said.

Students warmly welcomed Dole to their school, where she was an 11th grade
history student teacher while earning a master's degree at Harvard
University. They gave her a key to the city, a ``We are Melrose'' button and
a football jersey saying ``President Dole.''

``I was always looking forward to seeing the first female president,'' said
Liz Perkins, a 15-year-old sophomore who has high hopes for Dole's campaign.

During a tour of the old brick high school - which is located in the same
complex as a newer high school and is now used as a middle school - Dole made
a surprise visit to the classroom where she had taught.

``This was the room,'' she said to the sixth grade English students who
appeared shocked to see Dole with several dozen reporters in tow. ``It's been
a few years, but it's good to be back,'' she said.

Dole based her education plan on her own three R's: returning control of
schools to states and local school districts, restoring discipline in
classrooms and reinforcing parental control over their child's education.

In advocating more local control of schools, Dole recalled picking through
dusty police department files to assemble a lesson plan on the Boston police
strike of 1919. ``I didn't choose this lesson because it was mandated by the
state or by Washington,'' she said.

The growing student population and teacher retirements over the next decade
will necessitate the recruitment of some 2 million new teachers, Dole said.
She called for merit pay for teachers and said states should ``broaden their
uses of alternative teacher certification.''

``Let's give mid-career professionals, academics, and our best college
graduates a clearer path to working and excelling in our public schools,''
Dole said.

In what aides described as the first installment of her education platform,
Dole also proposed:

Creating a $1,000 per-year tax credit for individuals who donate to
educational foundations helping low-income students in public and private
schools through grade 12.

Increasing tax-free contribut

[CTRL] Yeltsin Granted Immunity in Money-Laundering Inquiry

1999-09-23 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

Yeltsin Immune From Swiss Probe

By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS
.c The Associated Press

GENEVA (AP) - The prosecutor in charge of investigating alleged Russian money
laundering in Switzerland said Wednesday that Boris Yeltsin will be immune
from Swiss questioning as long as he remains president of Russia.

``There's no question of interrogating President Yeltsin,'' Bernard Bertossa
told The Associated Press. ``He is a head of state and has total immunity.''

Bertossa is overseeing the main Swiss investigation into allegations of
Russian money-laundering, including supposed channels to the Bank of New
York. Investigators have alleged that Russian businesses and individuals -
including organized crime groups - illegally relayed billions of dollars
through the American bank.

On Tuesday, Swiss authorities announced the freezing of almost $17 million in
bank accounts. Investigators suspect the accounts are linked to the alleged
money laundering.

No one has been charged in the case so far.

Swiss officials already are helping Russian prosecutors investigate separate
allegations of widespread corruption and kickbacks reaching to Yeltsin's
family and close associates.

One of the cases involves the Mabetex construction company in Lugano,
Switzerland. Authorities suspect that several high-ranking Russian officials
received kickbacks for helping the firm get large contracts for renovating
the Kremlin.

Suspended Russian prosecutor Yuri Skuratov said earlier this month that he
had received Swiss documents alleging that President Yeltsin and his two
daughters were among those receiving kickbacks.

A top Kremlin official and Mabetex's president have denied the allegations.

Bertossa declined to say whether it would be worthwhile questioning Yeltsin
or his relatives.

But, he said, a president's ``daughter doesn't benefit from the same
immunity.''

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[CTRL] Gimme That Old-Time Music

1999-09-23 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

Oldest Instrument Found in China

By JOSEPH B. VERRENGIA
.c The Associated Press

Archaeologists in China have found what is believed to be the oldest
still-playable musical instrument: a 9,000-year-old flute carved from the
wing bone of a crane.

When scientists from the United States and China blew gently through the
mottled brown instrument's mouthpiece and fingered its holes, they produced
tones unheard for millennia, yet familiar to the modern ear.

``It's a reedy, pleasant sound, a little thin, like a recorder,'' said Garman
Harbottle, a nuclear scientist who specializes in radiocarbon dating at
Brookhaven National Laboratory on New York's Long Island.

Harbottle and three Chinese archaeologists published their findings in
today's issue of the journal Nature.

The flute was one of several instruments to be uncovered in Jiahu, a
excavation site of Stone Age artifacts in China's Yellow River Valley.
Archaeologists have also found exquisitely wrought tools, weapons and
pottery.

Dated to 7,000 B.C., the flute is more than twice as old as instruments used
in ancient Egypt, Mesopotamia and other early civilizations.

In all, researchers have found some three dozen bone flutes at Jiahu. Five
were riddled with cracks; 30 others had fragmented. The flutes have as many
as eight neatly hollowed tone holes and were held vertically to play.

The Jiahu flute is considerably more recent than a flutelike bone discovered
in 1995 in an excavation of Neanderthal tools in a cave in Slovenia. That
artifact was believed to be more than 43,000 years old, but musicologists
question whether it is an instrument.

In contrast, there is no doubt among researchers that the Jiahu artifacts are
instruments capable of playing multinote music.

Music historians and archaeologists were intrigued by the find.

``You would never have one of these flutes in a symphony. But clearly, these
people knew what an octave sounded like,'' Harbottle said. He said the flute
can make what sounds like a ``do-re-mi'' scale. It even has a tiny hole
drilled near hole No. 7, apparently to correct an off-pitch tone.

Scholars said the bone flutes provide further proof that prehistoric Chinese
culture was not crude. Music played an integral role, perhaps combined with
astronomical observations and other rituals that helped to rule their
society, they said.

That the flutes were made of durable bone rather than bamboo, as later flutes
were, also suggests they were culturally important, and not mere amusements.
In fact, some scholars believe the Chinese written character for ``sound'' is
a stylized representation of a vertical flute held in the mouth.

``That they would go to the trouble of constructing such instruments suggests
a certain importance was placed on sound, and an attention to aesthetic
concerns,'' said Jonathan Stock, an ethnomusicologist at the University of
Sheffield in England, and a specialist in Chinese musical history.

The flutes were uncovered at Jiahu in the 1980s. Their tonal qualities
initially were tested in 1987. The intact Jiahu flute remains locked in a
laboratory in China, but replicas may be constructed for more tonal tests.

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