Re: [slim] Great Product

2008-11-09 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 08:55:32PM -0800, SuperQ wrote:
 
 Glad you like it.  Next you'll be wanting a boom for the
 bedroom/kitchen, and a Controller so you can browse better from the
 couch. :-)

Don't even procrastinate: after getting the controller you'll wonder how
you managed to cope without it :)

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Re: [slim] Labelling transporter digital inputs....possible?

2008-11-09 Thread schiegl

ups, i guided you to the wrong file. You'll find the identifiers for
digital inputs in Slim/Plugin/DigitalInput/strings.txt.

Example  working custom-strings.txt for english only :-)


Code:


  PLUGIN_DIGITAL_INPUT_OPTICAL_SPDIF
EN  Playstation
  



kind regards,
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Re: [slim] Small python / CLI script to query SC

2008-11-09 Thread eLR!C

Thanks for the link, the library seems promising in terms of
functionality

However, keep in mind the minimalist script minimize server
connections, so it may be more efficient for scripts that run in the
background


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter and TwonkyVision won't work together?

2008-11-09 Thread probedb

MeSue;358015 Wrote: 
 They both use port 9000 by default. You have to change the port number
 for one or the other.

Hmm, there appears to be no way to change this port in either from what
I can see :( I can change the http web access port in Twonky but that's
it.

Has no-one run these 2 together before?


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[slim] Application Error within WHS

2008-11-09 Thread wbree

I have 7.2.1 installed recently. 
Suddenly SC shuts down. In the Event Viewer there is this message:

The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( Application ) cannot be
found. The local computer may not have the necessary registry
information or message DLL files to display messages from a remote
computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE= flag to retrieve this
description; see Help and Support for details. The following
information is part of the event: Use of freed value in iteration at
/C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\SQUEEZ~1.EXESlim/Control/Request.pm line
2039.

I have this error several times lately. Especially when I use
radiostation (LAstFM!) and stop this to listen to my music form the
harddisk.

Please help me. SC runs on Windows Homeserver. With 7.1 I had nog
problems a all.

Wilco


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Re: [slim] enough election off topic discussions

2008-11-09 Thread morris_minor

One thread in fora of many thousands about an event of global
significance doesn't seem too much bear - especially when conducted
with pretty good restraint and reasoned arguments. Had it degenerated
into the mother of all flame wars it would be different.

Ignore it if you don't like it!

But my 2 pennies worth about the election result is that the
repercussions around the world could be enormous. US foreign policy
might change to one of think first, then barge in mob-handed. The
perceived war-mongering stance of Bush is hopefully a thing of the past
- which is why Obama's victory has been so well received outside the US.
World faith in the US has been restored!


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Re: [slim] Labelling transporter digital inputs....possible?

2008-11-09 Thread cliveb

whams;358012 Wrote: 
 I did as you said and it now shows up as 'playstation' when going
 through the settings of SC but not on the transporter display itself
 (which is where I want to be able to display my own 'name' for each
 digital input), the tranporter still displays 'optical'.
There are two ways of selecting digital inputs on the TP. One is to use
the Digital Inputs plugin, and editing the strings.txt file as described
by schiegl does work.

However, you can also select digital inputs from the TP's setup menu
(by holding down back-arrow on remote). If you do it this way, then as
far as I'm aware those names are in the firmware and you can't change
them.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter and TwonkyVision won't work together?

2008-11-09 Thread bpa

In SC Web UI - Settings/Advanced/Network - change port 9000 to something
else such as 9001. Restart SC.

Make sure your firewall is updated to allow 9001 to be used.

I think you have another problem since Squeezenetwork doesn't work and
Twonky can't interfere with that.


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Re: [slim] Labelling transporter digital inputs....possible?

2008-11-09 Thread whams

schiegl;358099 Wrote: 
 ups, i guided you to the wrong file. You'll find the identifiers for
 digital inputs in Slim/Plugin/DigitalInput/strings.txt.
 
 Example  working custom-strings.txt for english only :-)
 
  
Code:

  
   PLUGIN_DIGITAL_INPUT_OPTICAL_SPDIF
   EN  Playstation
   

  
 
 kind regards,
 Markus

Ah great, thanks Markus  Clivethat worked a treat. 

Now I can label all my digital inputs (playstation, cd player etc).

Looks cool, thanks again :)

Dave


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter and TwonkyVision won't work together?

2008-11-09 Thread probedb

Cheers...just reset Twonky to not take a specific IP so gonna give this
a shot.


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Re: [slim] Great Product

2008-11-09 Thread Zaragon

Don Steiny;358078 Wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 When I start the stream in a browser it takes a long time to
 start,
 30 seconds or more.  It seems like it is downloading more than it
 needs
 to.  It gets Quicktime and I have tried many things to reset this with
 no luck. 
 
 Also, there are several setting for random playlists, but they do
 not seem to do anything.
 
 Finally, as a stream, would others hear the same thing as me, like
 a
 radio?
 
 -Don
Don not quite sure what you mean by listening in a browser but
basically once it is set going SC starts streaming immediately it is
then up to the app in the browser how long it chooses to buffer the
stream before it starts playing it.

The SB hardware is in active communication with the server all the time
so they can discuss how full buffers are and fill them accordingly so
can play a lot sooner.

Each stream is unique to the player and they get their own, even
browsers so whilst they may play exactly the same time and at exactly
the same time they are independent streams. For synchronised SBs they
are still multiple independent streams just kept in time by the server.
(Browser streams can't be synchronised if I remember correctly.)


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Re: [slim] BBC Radio 4 - Anyone else getting this?

2008-11-09 Thread jeebers

Yep noticed this earlier today


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread toby10

MrSinatra;358082 Wrote: 
 that just isn't true.
 
 as i said earlier, iraq broke the terms of the 91 armistice, that gave
 us the right to take military action, and there is no question the gulf
 war was legal.  and we also had resolution 1441 this time.
 
 i'm not sure what part of the UN charter you are citing that refutes
 what i just said.
 
 the idea that the UN decides what is and isn't illegal is a joke
 anyway.  the UN is made up of dictators and despots, is a surreal
 place, and other than humanitarian efforts is totally ineffectual, (oil
 for food scandal, UN peacekeepers raping children epidemic).  i have
 very little regard for it.
 
 the USA is the bulwark of freedom in the world, and gets very little
 credit for it.  we beat fascism, we beat communism, and we will beat
 terrorism, and we do it while all the liberal nations of the world
 bemoan us, and don't carry their fair share either diplomatically,
 militarily or finanacially.
 
 frankly, i'm tired of the rest of the world getting a free ride off our
 backs, and showing such little gratitude.
 
 i refuse to sit here worried about removing a brutal dictator like
 saddam, while very same people who complain about that, want us to
 invade darfur.

Yup.  And the reason the UN had 17 resolutions against Iraq is because
Iraq violated the first 16.  We know he had WMD's cuz we (the US) and
France and Germany and Russia (and god knows who else) sold them to
Iraq.  The question is:  what happened to these WMD's.  I'm sure there
are other political reasons we are there now, just saying.

Absolutely correct about the UN, it's a joke.  The corruption, abuses 
and do nothing attitude until it's far too late is sickening. 
Usually the UN takes no real action to protect those it claims to
benefit.  The states that the UN is shaking it's finger at KNOWS the UN
won't really back it up with anything, so these rogue states just ignore
the UN's threats.  But when they DO take action, where do they turn? 
The UN is nothing but a tea party without the US to backup it's
decisions, the few times the UN has the balls to ask us to do so.

The world wants to sleep under our blanket and expects us to babysit
the entire planet.  But then they do nothing but complain how we go
about this and point out every mistep.  Politically and militarily
we've MORE than made our share of mistakes, but on par we've done far
more good than bad.  Don't like how we go about it?  Go fix it
yourselves, with your blood and money, show us how it's done.:)


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread pippin

MrSinatra;358082 Wrote: 
 
 the USA is the bulwark of freedom in the world, and gets very little
 credit for it. 

Well, when you betray the very ideals you claim to promote and lie
about your motivations for a war, what do you expect?

Face it, US foreign policy has been largely opportunistic after WW2. It
had no problem to fight democratically elected governments when they
leaned to the left and to support even the ugliest dictators when they
leaned to the right. In the case of Saddam, George Bush sen. did this
even personally.

When the US went to war in Afghanistan, it had the entire worls behind
it because everybody understood why they fought, they had a plan plus
local support.

In Iraq the Motivation was fake (Saddam while being one of those ugly
dictators had nothing to do with islamist terrorism), the legal
groundwork was made up (WMD) and the person they seeked to install as
an interim president was dubious at best.

Act as you talk and you get respect, do the opposite and you don't.
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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter and TwonkyVision won't work together?

2008-11-09 Thread toby10

MeSue;358015 Wrote: 
 They both use port 9000 by default. You have to change the port number
 for one or the other.

For general FYI:  Do all media sharing programs use this very same port
9000 by default?

I run WMP11 and Tversity with a PS3 and I've never noticed a problem
with SC7.  But then I wasn't really paying attention to running all
three simultaneously.


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Re: [slim] BBC Radio 4 - Anyone else getting this?

2008-11-09 Thread Ramage

elziko;358123 Wrote: 
 Normally Radio 4 works fine for me. For the whole of today every time I
 try to listen to this stream from Staff Picks:
 
 mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4/radio4_nb_e1s1#slim:noscan=1,aid=2
 
 I hear a pilot's discussion of flying inverted for 30 seconds then I
 get 'rebuffering' for 30 seconds before repeating, again and again!
 
 Very odd - does everyone else hear the same thing?

Yes I got this yesterday and today.


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Re: [slim] Great Product

2008-11-09 Thread kh6idf

Those servers must be incredibly busy to process all the streams to
everybody, and 99.999% of the time with no audible glitches.  It really
does work remarkably well.


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[slim] BBC Radio 4 - Anyone else getting this?

2008-11-09 Thread elziko

Normally Radio 4 works fine for me. For the whole of today every time I
try to listen to this stream from Staff Picks:

mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio4/radio4_nb_e1s1#slim:noscan=1,aid=2

I hear a pilot's discussion of flying inverted for 30 seconds then I
get 'rebuffering' for 30 seconds before repeating, again and again!

Very odd - does everyone else hear the same thing?


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Re: [slim] Need help!! Album art gone...

2008-11-09 Thread wyzard

I have tried everything.  No album art.  Not sure what else to do.  Any
other thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: [slim] BBC Radio 4 - Anyone else getting this?

2008-11-09 Thread amcluesent

Yep. Radio 4 LW is OK though.


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Re: [slim] Need help!! Album art gone...

2008-11-09 Thread Siduhe

Someone in another thread was having a similar problem (although only
some album art not showing, not all) and he solved it by switching off
the Controller, taking the battery out of the Controller, leaving for a
minute or so, then putting the battery back in. 

Otherwise there is an option in Settings/Advanced on the Controller to
do a factory reset but this will require you to set it up from scratch
again (inc wireless network), so I'd try the battery trick first!


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[slim] Help! SB3 drops out...Router Issue?

2008-11-09 Thread dpac996

Hello All:
I am having a recurring problem where my Squeezebox drops off the
wireless network. I have nailed it down to these events taking place:

Hardware/Connection List:
-Verizon ActionTec Fios Router
-PC running Win XP Pro w/ latest slim server (ethernet)
-Squeezebox (wifi)
-Dell Vista laptop (wifi)
-Sony Xbox 360 (wifi)
-Sony PSP (wifi)

Reducing the problem to just the bare minmum for music:

ROuter, Server, Sb3 (all the others are off): from a reset of the
router, no problems with the streaming. Hours of reliable connection.

When I power on the Laptop, still the sb3 works fine...Now when i turn
the laptop off (or simply switch the wifi radio off) the sb3 drops out.
Nothing but nothing can restore the connection to the server unless I
reboot the router, or simply, switch the laptop's wifi radio back on.
The same thing happend with the Sony xbox. It seems that the sb3 is
happy when the other devices are on the network, but as soon as they
are off the sb3 connection is terminatedany ideas?


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Re: [slim] What Wi-Fi Router For UK?

2008-11-09 Thread morris_minor

Ross L;357680 Wrote: 
 It doesn't surprise me that an SB3 doesn't perform as well as a wireless
 notebook, think about the antenna alone, it's smaller and covers a
 smaller area. 
 
 It sounds to me like Ethernet wall plug adapters are the best option.
 If I had one here I would plug it in and read the temperature of it for
 you, but I don't have one. 
 
 Anyone out there have a wall plug adapter and thermometer? :-)

Well - I don't have a thermometer handy, but my four homeplug adapters
(http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-av-push-piggy.htm ) run
lukewarm to touch. I certainly wouldn't say they get hot . . .


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread autopilot

Well first off its great to have a conversation with real people, rather
than the nonsense the press on both sides of the pond pumps out. 10
pages in and people, although obviously disagreeing have having
differing points of view, have put their points across in a non
personal and intelligent way.

However, i feel been called racist is very unfair. MrSinatra - i do
agree with a lot of what you are saying, but you are clearly very
patriotic and see things though rose tinted glasses. You have the same
one sided naive views that have caused this to become such a disaster
and you have obviously completely fallen for the propaganda out
government have bombarded us with. 

First off, you say i am racist for saying Arabs are incapable of
democracy, which i did not even say. I said that it won't be delivered
via a badly conceived military campaign. No matter what the Iraqi
citizens say when they are wheeled in front of the camera's from the US
public, most don't care about democracy, especially if it means some
much pain and death. They dont even know what it is, they just want
clean water, heath care, food on their tables and their children to
stop dying from stray missiles from the political vacuum the invasion
caused. All of these things they had before the invasion. And thats not
even accounting for the religious element - the type of Islamic
tradition is unfortunately very un-democratic - you would have get some
of the most deeply religious people to radically change their religious
views too.

And all thats before the PR disaster after PR disaster. For example,
the troops raced to protect the Oil wells and put much effort into
this. However, they made no attempt to protect the hospitals being
attacked and robbed. Not just hospitals, but the Baghdad museum was
looted and virtually destroyed - with many of the worlds most precious
and ancient artefacts were lost forever. Yet the occupying forces did
nothing. How does this looks to the average Iraqi? It was clear as day
that the Oil was the number 1 priority. You say acknowledging this
fact, and countless others, is obnoxious and vapid. That trust they
way it is, our governments have proved this time after time. Reason
1,001 why they want us out yesterday and dont care about democracy
much. 

Then Bush goes as says he invaded Iraq because he was told to by God.
Apart from the fact this is clearly a desperate attempt to gain support
from the regions far right in the US and UK, it effectively told
everyone he had religious motivations. That was a bad thing to say even
by Bush's standards -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

You say the world is ungrateful for the US's actions. This is simply
not true and used as an excuse. Yes, rightly or wrongly, the US has
been viewed as arrogant and self serving by some people, but the vast
majority of the world has always been very good friends with the US.
It's not until the Iraq war (not the previous one where Iraq invaded
another country) where even people with the most historically
supportive of the US have said this is all wrong this time. Whether
this is illegal or not, i strongly believe we have fallen very far from
the moral high ground.

I completely agree about the UN, complete waste of time. i also agree
that if any nation does not want to listen and comply they should
probably leave.

Will it be a failure in the end? Well what exactly where the goals
then? Who can say, the objectives have changed so much. Anything is
possible when you keep moving the goal posts. but will Iraq become a
lasting and stable democracy? not in our wildest dreams.

I felt i had to respond to those very personal and extensively
offensive accusations. Lets keep this civil and grown up please.


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Re: [slim] Great Product

2008-11-09 Thread Themis

jamfree;358068 Wrote: 
 Just wanted to drop a line to development..I picked up a classic on
 the advice of a friend and wow, my wife and I aren't quite sure how we
 lived without it for so long!  Great product.  It solves a lot of our
 problems.. Worth every penny.
My family's reaction was exactly the same !! And a year later they
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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread Themis

In Greece we hate American foreign policies since WW2. We've always
found them unfair, anti-democratic, and against simple peoples'
interests everywhere in the world. And more particularly in our (greek)
neighborhood.

Nevertheless, we have a big respect for American people, and once more
they proved to be awesome ! Americans really deserve a great applause
for their mutual solidarity : a great nation, indeed.


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Re: [slim] One error remaining in 6.2.2...

2008-11-09 Thread djm

Any resolution to this?
I have rebooted the squeezebox, my linux machine and router countless
times, flushed/restarted dhcpd and named.

I've had similar issues in the past that have resolved themselves but
this time, no luck and nothing has changed on my end.  This time it
just won't resolve.  Squeezebox is a brick now (non-functional).

dhcpd.leases file shows a lease given to the squeezebox sucessfully,
yet the squeezebox just reports couldn't find dhcp server.


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[slim] Blind Person can't register

2008-11-09 Thread DaveBk

Hi, there's a blind guy over on the Naim forum trying to register here
as he's interested in the SqueezeBox. He say's he can't register as it
needs a visual verification - anyone out there able to help him? Thanks


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

pippin;358132 Wrote: 
 Well, when you betray the very ideals you claim to promote and lie about
 your motivations for a war, what do you expect?
 
 Face it, US foreign policy has been largely opportunistic after WW2.

thats nonsense.  we defeated communism, and protected you, wherever you
are.

pippin;358132 Wrote: 
 It had no problem to fight democratically elected governments when they
 leaned to the left and to support even the ugliest dictators when they
 leaned to the right. In the case of Saddam, George Bush sen. did this
 even personally.

give me an example of a Democratic gov't we opposed simply b/c it
leaned left?

as to saddam, he didn't lean left or right, he was a dictator we used
during the cold war.  sometimes you have to make hard choices.

pippin;358132 Wrote: 
 When the US went to war in Afghanistan, it had the entire world behind
 it because everybody understood why they fought, they had a plan plus
 local support.

that isn't true.  i bet there are people in this very thread who are
against us being there.  code pink calls it an illegal war.  there is
opposition to it, and part of it comes from the lack of recognition that
the gov't there (taliban) and the terrorists there were more than
simpatico.

pippin;358132 Wrote: 
 In Iraq the Motivation was fake (Saddam while being one of those ugly
 dictators had nothing to do with islamist terrorism), the legal
 groundwork was made up (WMD) and the person they sought to install as
 an interim president was dubious at best.

again, not true.  i keep saying it and you keep ignoring it. 
armistice, 91.

the WMDs were inventoried by the UN.  they are still unaccounted for
today.

if 9/11 had not happened, i don't think we would have worried that much
about those WMDs.  but it did and so bush took us in.  i'm not saying i
would have done that, but i can understand why he did.  not finding
them however is hardly surprising, and certainly doesn't make it
illegal.

pippin;358132 Wrote: 
 Act as you talk and you get respect, do the opposite and you don't. It's
 actually that simple.

maybe we wouldn't have to talk or act so much if the other countries of
the world did ANYTHING.  

tell me, what is Germany doing in afghanistan?  answer, BALKING.  nada,
nothing, very very little, and ZERO in the combat zones.


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread pippin

MrSinatra;358267 Wrote: 
 
 give me an example of a Democratic gov't we opposed simply b/c it
 leaned left?
 
Chavez, Allende
(http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB123/chile.htm)
 
 as to saddam, he didn't lean left or right, he was a dictator we used
 during the cold war.  sometimes you have to make hard choices.
 
Maybe. Makes you incredible and unpopular, though. That was my point.
 
 that isn't true.  i bet there are people in this very thread who are
 against us being there.
 
You'll always find some people who are against anything. That's the
nature of a democracy, isn't it? Wasn't it that what you claim to
promote.
I am not against it and Germany does have troops there. They sometimes
even get killed.
 
 again, not true.  i keep saying it and you keep ignoring it. 
 armistice, 91.
 the WMDs were inventoried by the UN.  they are still unaccounted for
 today.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/07/sprj.irq.un.transcript.blix/index.html
Show me a single piece of evidence for you claims
 
 maybe we wouldn't have to talk or act so much if the other countries of
 the world did ANYTHING.  
 
This may be true. But nobody forces the US to do anything.
 
 tell me, what is Germany doing in afghanistan?  answer, BALKING.  nada,
 nothing, very very little, and ZERO in the combat zones.
Well, as I said before, we do have troops there and they do die.
There still is some sentiment in this world about Germany going to war,
ask our British friends here in the thread about this.
And when we finally signed a peace treaty after WW2 (which actually
happened as late as 1990), we guaranteed to only go to arms under NATO
command, a proposition required, among others, by the US. Later that
was revised to also allow UN command.

That said, I never claimed that the US are only doing bad. I completely
acknowledge that its very often the US that has to bail out
international organizations when it's getting hot and I am also no
friend of the soft pressure of imposing economic sanctions on a
country because (for example in the case of Iraq) those can kill even
more people and only put pressure on the people, not the ones in
power.

But claiming that the US is doing this for others is simply ridiculous
and also, I was talking about sentiment towards the US in the world.
You can't talk that away, it's there. Leave your country and you will
see it. You want to fight terrorism? Cool way to do it, believe me the
Iraq war was the single most efficient recruiting campaign they ever
had...


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Re: [slim] Political BS

2008-11-09 Thread Nonreality

pfarrell;358044 Wrote: 
 ModelCitizen wrote:
  It's a mild aberration.
  If it bothers you don't read it.
  It's no biggy.
 
 Sorry, it bothers me. And it comes to my email inbox.
 
 There are plenty of other places on the 'net to rant about politics.
 
 It has nothing to do with Slim Devices, Logitech Streaming Medea
 products, music or technology.
 Please stop.
 
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Lets see you subscribe to all the threads and you are pissed when you
get something you don't like.  Could you please post a list of
everything you don't like so we can make sure you don't get anything
sent to you that might not make the cut.  Although I guess if everyone
did that nothing could be posted.  Maybe you could try filtering like a
lot of people do. I believe this forum is called General Discussion.
There is going to be a lot of different topics here.  Maybe it's not
the best one to subscribe to as I've noticed any time a post is not
what you feel belongs you try to stop it.  When this happens to me I
read it once and don't go back to the thread if it doesn't interest me.
I don't expect everyone else to stop just because of me.  Different
thinking I guess.  Don't get me wrong, I really respect most of your
posts, you are very smart and knowledgeable but I don't understand the
intolerance of things that interest others.  Loosen up, they usually
don't last too long.


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Re: [slim] Need help!! Album art gone...

2008-11-09 Thread ajkidle

I'm suddenly having this same problem.  Rhapsody and Pandora artwork
show up, but my library artwork does not.  I'll try the battery thing
as well as the factory reset, but am curious to hear how others resolve
this (assuming they do.)


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Re: [slim] Political BS

2008-11-09 Thread Pat Farrell
Nonreality wrote:
 Could you please post a list of
 everything you don't like so we can make sure you don't get anything
 sent to you that might not make the cut. 

Your attitude is at the top


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

toby10;358156 Wrote: 
 Yup.  And the reason the UN had 17 resolutions against Iraq is because
 Iraq violated the first 16.  We know he had WMD's cuz we (the US) and
 France and Germany and Russia (and god knows who else) sold them to
 Iraq.  The question is:  what happened to these WMD's.  I'm sure there
 are other political reasons we are there now, just saying.
 
 Absolutely correct about the UN, it's a joke.  The corruption, abuses 
 and do nothing attitude until it's far too late is sickening. 
 Usually the UN takes no real action to protect those it claims to
 benefit.  The states that the UN is shaking it's finger at KNOWS the UN
 won't really back it up with anything, so these rogue states just ignore
 the UN's threats.  But when they DO take action, where do they turn? 
 The UN is nothing but a tea party without the US to backup it's
 decisions, the few times the UN has the balls to ask us to do so.
 
 The world wants to sleep under our blanket and expects us to babysit
 the entire planet.  But then they do nothing but complain how we go
 about this and point out every mistep.  Politically and militarily
 we've MORE than made our share of mistakes, but on par we've done far
 more good than bad.  Don't like how we go about it?  Go fix it
 yourselves, with your blood and money, show us how it's done.:)

i would point out that the USA had to fix the problems in europes
backyard in bosnia, and we get little credit for that.  where is nato
in afghanistan?

also, i just want to correct one thing above, the USA absolutely did
NOT sell saddam WMDs.  others may have, but we knew he had them b/c the
UN found them and inventoried them for ~6years after the 91 gulf war.


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Re: [slim] BBC Radio 4 - Anyone else getting this?

2008-11-09 Thread ModelCitizen

I have had oddities with the ASX streams via Staff Picks (esp when they
were my favourites). The url seems to be differently configured to the
normal BBC ASX streams (what is that _nb_e1s1#slim:noscan=1,aid=2 stuff
for too?).

I've gone back to using the iPlayer or AlienBBC streams which seem to
work much better now than they used to and are of a superior audio
quality to the asx streams.

I am on 7.3 (if it makes any difference).

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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread autopilot

 
 Nevertheless, we have a big respect for American people, and once more
 they proved to be awesome ! Americans really deserve a great applause
 for their mutual solidarity : a great nation, indeed.

absolutly!


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread Ross Malegus
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MrSinatra;358267 Wrote:

 give me an example of a Democratic gov't we opposed simply b/c it
 leaned left?
Chile, is one of the many answers.
Oh, but perhaps Democratic is a synonym for approved by the
Department of State to you ?


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread Nonreality

Update:  The word Liberal worked as an insult or a negative 8 yrs ago. 
It doesn't now.  NeoCon I believe is the new replacement.


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

autopilot;358186 Wrote: 
 Well first off its great to have a conversation with real people, rather
 than the nonsense the press on both sides of the pond pumps out. 10
 pages in and people, although obviously disagreeing have having
 differing points of view, have put their points across in a non
 personal and intelligent way.

agreed.  :)

autopilot;358186 Wrote: 
 However, i feel been called racist is very unfair.

except i never called YOU racist.  i don't believe you are racist.

i called your POV on the subject, and your argument racist, and it is.

when you say essentially that:

the arabs aren't capable of democracy.

thats a racist POV imo.

it sounds very similar to what the white south africans said about why
they had to have apartheid.

i'm sorry if this offends you, but its your words, not mine.

autopilot;358186 Wrote: 
 MrSinatra - i do agree with a lot of what you are saying, but you are
 clearly very patriotic and see things though rose tinted glasses. You
 have the same one sided naive views that have caused this to become
 such a disaster and you have obviously completely fallen for the
 propaganda our governments have bombarded us with.

thats your opinion, not mine.  i think you have fallen for what the
left says. 

autopilot;358186 Wrote: 
 First off, you say i am racist for saying Arabs are incapable of
 democracy, which i did not even say. I said that it's not compatible
 and the changes required won't be delivered via a badly conceived
 military campaign.

i stand by what i said.  i quoted you and people can decide if what i
said fits or not.  i think you are backtracking, and frankly, saying
its not compatible now isn't really changing what you said or meant.


autopilot;358186 Wrote: 
 No matter what the Iraqi citizens say when they are wheeled in front of
 the camera's from the US public, most don't care about democracy,
 especially if it means some much pain and death. They dont even know
 what it is, they just want clean water, heath care, food on their
 tables and their children to stop dying from stray missiles and from
 the terrorism (which barely existed under Saddam) the political vacuum
 the invasion caused. All of these things they had before the invasion.
 And thats not even accounting for the religious element - the type of
 Islamic tradition is unfortunately very un-democratic - you would have
 get some of the most deeply religious people to radically change their
 religious views too.

they don't even know what it is.

am i only in seeing the racist overtones here?

sorry, but what you just wrote is INCREDIBLY patronizing and
misguided.

al-sistiani, (-sp?) the leading cleric there, supports the move to
democracy.  all of islam is not opposed to it you know.  there are
islamic democracies, they do exist.

autopilot;358186 Wrote: 
 And all thats before the PR disaster after PR disaster. For example, the
 troops raced to protect the Oil wells and put much effort into this.
 However, they made no attempt to protect the hospitals being attacked
 and robbed. Not just hospitals, but the Baghdad museum was looted and
 virtually destroyed - with many of the worlds most precious and ancient
 artefacts were lost forever.

this makes me laugh.  so we, as an invading military force, needed to
be concerned with playing security guard to hospitals and mueseums and
zoos?

first of all, the mueseum story is mostly untrue.  yes it was looted,
but something like 95% of the stuff was recovered.  a lot of it was
people trying to protect it who always planned to return it.

secondly, thats not OUR problem.  we had objectives that had to be met.
we could not put everything under one priority.  and maybe we could
have done more, if the world would have helped.

autopilot;358186 Wrote: 
 Yet the occupying forces did nothing. How does this looks to the average
 Iraqi? It was clear as day that the Oil was the number 1 priority. You
 say acknowledging this fact, and countless others, is obnoxious and
 vapid. Thats just they way it is, our governments have proved this
 time after time. Reason 1,001 why they want us out yesterday and dont
 care about democracy much.

now you are conflating issues.

it is obnoxious and vapid to say that bush et al did this for personal
gain.  it is not at all erroneous however, to say oil was a huge reason
we were there, and a huge objective for protection.  the reason being
that in 91 saddam LIT HIS OWN WELLS on fire, and this time we didn't
want that to happen so that we could get revenue flowing to the iraqis
as quickly as possible.  we wanted to be sure there was revenue coming
in to give them an incentive to rally around a new democratic gov't.

autopilot;358186 Wrote: 
 Then Bush goes as says he invaded Iraq because he was told to by God.
 Apart from the fact this is clearly a desperate attempt to gain support
 from the regions far right in the US and UK, it effectively told
 everyone he had religious motivations. That was a bad thing to say even
 by 

Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread Themis

MrSinatra;358267 Wrote: 
 
 give me an example of a Democratic gov't we opposed simply b/c it
 leaned left?
Chile, is one of the many answers. 
Oh, but perhaps Democratic is a synonym for approved by the
Department of State to you ?


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Re: [slim] (Practically) free SBR?

2008-11-09 Thread ajkidle

I just registered my Duet, got a 10% off coupon in my email, and tried
to use it to buy a second SBR...didn't work.  Got an error that the
coupon code couldn't be applied to any products in my basket.  Anyone
else have this problem?  The coupon is supposed to be for anything at
Logitech.com (I used the link in the email) and there were no
exclusions listed, I guess I'll give Slim/Logitech sales a call in the
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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread autopilot

Autopilot Wrote: 
 i also agree with the War in Afghanistan, as there is clear links to
 terrorism and 9/11.
  MrSinatra Wrote: 
  
  then where is nato? where is the combat forces of ANY other nation?
  
  we don't need cooks. we need combat forces.   

Wow, that's low. There are other nations troops -fighting- there,
including a great deal of British who are in constant combat. There has
been a lot of deaths, including a few from my home town. We are a very
small nation so we have less troops there than the US, but fighting and
fighting hard, they are not cook's - that's incredibly insulting to
there memories and patronising.

And no, you are clearly calling me racist. You are saying my POV is
racist, so that makes me a racist by it's very definition. What i said
does not deserve such a flaming and abuse, there can't be many more
insulting things than that. Not only that, but you quote me as saying
things i did not say. 

I think most people will realise i did not say Most Arabs (Iraqi's, BTW
not Arabs - i have not used the term Arab once) are incapable of
Democracy, no mater how you try and twist it. I clearly said that it
was incompatible with the current religious and cultural climate. Their
religion has far more influence than our military could ever dream off,
and most Clerics want Sharia law. That added with many other factors
such are pressure from Iran, Syria etc, and a great distrust of the
US/UK and the fact that Democracy is not the average Iraq's first
priory anyway (and, even given every horrible acts he committed, many
things were better under Saddam in term of day to day life - a truth
that is horrible to swallow i know) means that i think long term it
will fail. What is happening there now is a puppet show and we will
have to occupy and have a hand in the government indefinably to keep
the fake democracy going. Because as soon as we leave the Sunni Vs Shia
civil war will in escalate and the government will crumble in much less
than a decade - probably to a shadow Iran/Syrian sponsored government,
which will be worse than Saddam for all of us. 

I dont even blame the US/UK for all of this post invasion insanity,
Iran needs to brought to justice to IMO for the supply weapons to
insurgents, thus taking advantage of this mess and trying to make is
worse and killing more of our troops.

As for me saying they don't know what democracy is - well they have
never experienced it, been able to study it as school or seen it on TV.
So how do they really know what's it's like to live under a democratic
government? thats not racist or patronising, thats just the way it is. 

And is this is just about democracy and/or human rights now, why Iraq?
Why not north Korea, Saudi Arabia or China? Or maybe one of the many
African countries tat are much much worse than Iraq was, they would be
easy, why did we not help them?

Whats wrong with the attitude that we might well fail anyway? Not
planning for the worst is why this has gone so wrong. MrSintra, i hope
you are right. Time will tell is some long term good can really come
from this, neither of us can predict the future, but i'm 99% sure we
are losing. I hope a am wrong, and regardless of whats happened to take
us down this road, we all must agree what we want to see is the safe
return of our troops and a good life for the Iraq's who asked for none
of this.


Anyway, that all i think i will say, but due to the fact that i have
had quotes made up and been called racist and also had other very
personal and insults remarks made i have reported this to the Mods.


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Re: [slim] enough election off topic discussions

2008-11-09 Thread autopilot

enough election off topic discussions... so i will start another
one???

Well unfortunately it has now descended into personal insults to try
and force opinions across, so i expect it will now get locked and agree
it probably should now. Shame, as i dont see a massive problem in
general and think that 2 thread complaining of a single thread that no
one has to read is a massive over reaction guys. I enjoy a chat with my
fellow SB community members about other general stuff.

I would like to hear clarification from the forum admins as to whether
they only allow General Discussions about Slim stuff or General
discussion.


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

pippin;358281 Wrote: 
 Chavez, Allende
 (http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB123/chile.htm)

wait a minute, you are claiming HUGO CHAVEZ as an example of a
democratic gov't???  are you kidding?

pippin;358281 Wrote: 
 Maybe. Makes you incredible and unpopular, though. That was my point.

well, it shoudn't, and being popular isn't the point anyway.

pippin;358281 Wrote: 
 You'll always find some people who are against anything. That's the
 nature of a democracy, isn't it? Wasn't it that what you claim to
 promote.
 I am not against it and Germany does have troops there. They sometimes
 even get killed.

of course i promote it, my point is that not all positions are
rational.

and gimmie a break about germany, it has ZERO combat troops there, and
what little ones it does have there are in the rear with the gear.

if i'm wrong, show me.

pippin;358281 Wrote: 
 http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/07/sprj.irq.un.transcript.blix/index.html
 Show me a single piece of evidence for you claims

be clear:

what exactly do you want?  evidence of the armistice?  evidence the UN
inventoried WMDs after the gulf war?

pippin;358281 Wrote: 
 This may be true. But nobody forces the US to do anything.

does that mean when we do do things, when the rest of the world does
nothing, we should be criticized?  how about looking at home first?

pippin;358281 Wrote: 
 Well, as I said before, we do have troops there and they do die.
 There still is some sentiment in this world about Germany going to war,
 ask our British friends here in the thread about this.
 And when we finally signed a peace treaty after WW2 (which actually
 happened as late as 1990), we guaranteed to only go to arms under NATO
 command, a proposition required, among others, by the US. Later that
 was revised to also allow UN command.

america has asked germany to do more, they won't.

pippin;358281 Wrote: 
 That said, I never claimed that the US are only doing bad. I completely
 acknowledge that its very often the US that has to bail out
 international organizations when it's getting hot and I am also no
 friend of the soft pressure of imposing economic sanctions on a
 country because (for example in the case of Iraq) those can kill even
 more people and only put pressure on the people, not the ones in power.

so whats your solution?  we had WMDs that saddam wouldn't demonstrate
he had detroyed, we have iran trying to build a nuke, we had oil for
food bribes...  whats your solution?  negotiations?

pippin;358281 Wrote: 
 But claiming that the US is doing this for others is simply ridiculous
 and also, I was talking about sentiment towards the US in the world.
 You can't talk that away, it's there. Leave your country and you will
 see it. You want to fight terrorism? Cool way to do it, believe me the
 Iraq war was the single most efficient recruiting campaign they ever
 had...

of course we have a self interest in SOME of what we do, (we had NONE
in bosnia, your backyard), but frankly i could care less what the rest
of the world thinks, as the rest of the world rarely has a backbone or
can be counted on.  where is the EU for georgia?  the ukraine?

moreover, this idea that we shouldn't do anything pro-active or else it
will ecruit more terrorists, is defeatist.  sounds very neville
chamberlain to me.  you don't cure cancer by appeasing it.  you fight
it.


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

Themis;358284 Wrote: 
 Chile, is one of the many answers. 
 Oh, but perhaps Democratic is a synonym for approved by the
 Department of State to you ?

so could you explain exactly what we did to chile to fight their
democratic gov't?


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

autopilot;358313 Wrote: 
 Wow, that's low. There are other nations troops -fighting- there,
 including a great deal of British who are in constant combat. There has
 been a lot of deaths, including a few from my home town.

the english by far and away have been the best to support us, but they
have not done all they could do.  however, my commen was NOT directed
at ONLY the british.

autopilot;358313 Wrote: 
 We are a very small nation so we have less troops there than the US,

what?  there's something like 60 million people in your country.  you
guys USED to rule the world, but now you're tiny?

autopilot;358313 Wrote: 
 but a lot for us and they are fighting and fighting hard, they are not
 cook's - that's incredibly insulting to there memories and patronising.
 Statements like that lead me to wonder what else you don't understand
 about what really going on in the world, not much credibility gained
 there i'm sorry.

i wasn't referring to the english, you have deliberately taken my
comments out of context.

i was taking about NATO.  yes, both america and england are in nato,
but i meant what about the other 20 something countries?

autopilot;358313 Wrote: 
 And no, you are clearly calling me racist. You are saying my POV is
 racist, so that makes me a racist by it's very definition.

you can view it that way if you want, but i clearly said and will
repeat, that i do NOT think you are a racist.

i do however think your POV/argument that the arabs are not capable of
democracy is a racist one, and i stand by it.

autopilot;358313 Wrote: 
 What i said does not deserve such a flaming and abuse, there can't be
 many more insulting things than that. Not only that, but you quote me
 as saying things i did not say. I am sorry to have to respond in this
 way, but i tried to avoid personal insults to fellow forum members. Its
 a shame its happened, i would have been great to prove people wrong
 about these things becoming flame wars.

i have no interest is misrepresenting anything you said, i assure you. 
i encourage everyone to read what you said, and my responses, and judge
on their own the meaning.  no one should take my word for it, they
should decide for themselves. 

autopilot;358313 Wrote: 
 Did anyone else reading this genuinely think i was being racist?

again to be clear, i was saying that your argument, as you put it
across earlier in the thread, struck me as a racist one.  i want to be
clear when i say YOU did NOT strike me as racist.

btw, its not as if someone has to be a racist, simply b/c they make a
racist argument.  i think people can make mistakes, and i think thats
what you've done, but i don't think a mistake defines your identity.

autopilot;358313 Wrote: 
 I think most people will realise i did not say Most Arabs (Iraqi's, BTW
 not Arabs - i have not used the term Arab once) are incapable of
 Democracy, no mater how you try and twist it. I clearly said that it
 was incompatible with the current religious and cultural climate -
 which no amount military might wont be able to overcome.

iraq is arab.

here is what you said:

 Thats a fundamental mistake the Bush (and British) administration made,
 they totally misunderstood the culture and religious fabric of that
 part of the world (and why the thought of Sarah Palin, who thinks
 Africa is a country was so scary) OR it's an excuse to exercise more
 power and influence (i suspect a bit of both).

and

 But it will never happen, we dont have the power anyway even if it was
 possible. We will never bomb away thousands of years of deeply routed
 religion and culture, democracy is beautiful but totally incompatible
 with that part of the world. Any idea that we have restored some real
 and long term democracy to Iraq is a complete illusion. As evil as
 Saddam was, Iraq was a secular nation and we knew that. Now we have
 opened the flood gates to even more religious madness. Not only is
 Democracy futile, but long term it will be worse now.

now, when you say the culture and religious fabric and it will never
happen and that part of the world just what are you talking about?

clearly democracy is in turkey and other islamic countries.

it seems to me your beef is with arabs, and religion, and culture.  to
say it will never happen is incredibly elitest.  i call that bias,
and it strikes me as racist, or whatever flavor of prejudice you want
to call it.

i don't agree with you and your summary judgment that it isn't possible
in that part of the world.  i don't think its impossible for any
people, anywhere.

autopilot;358313 Wrote: 
 i did not say there is anything wrong with them. But their religion has
 far more influence than our military could ever dream off, and most
 Clerics and fundamentalists want Sharia law instating (arguably one of
 the few good things Saddam had going for him was that he created a
 secular nation - less religion in politics means less internal
 conflict).

the problem is the facts don't agree.  most iraqis WANT 

Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread badbob

 moreover, this idea that we shouldn't do anything pro-active or else it
 will ecruit more terrorists, is defeatist. sounds very neville
 chamberlain to me. you don't cure cancer by appeasing it. you fight it

Invading a country that had nothing to do with terrorism, killing the
population and overthrowing there goverement, and occupying there
country is not going to make things better. In fact it's highly likely
Iraqi's will now target America, when they didn't before.

War on terror is the single most stupidist thing I've heard. We know
plenty about terrorism, although there hasen't been a single large
number of deaths in one go like 9/11 the total number since it began is
much higher. I don't think parliament would take too kindly if Thatcher
ordered aerial bombardment over NI just to kill a few terrorists (and
lots of innocents in the process)


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Re: [slim] SqueezeCenter and TwonkyVision won't work together?

2008-11-09 Thread radish

toby10;358157 Wrote: 
 For general FYI:  Do all media sharing programs use this very same port
 9000 by default?
 

Not AFAIK, I've only ever seen Twonky  SC collide.


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Re: [slim] Squeeze controller losing network connection

2008-11-09 Thread kingrys

Yup, did that the night I last posted...so far so good.  Once when it
was out of the cradle it made me wait 30 seconds or so before becoming
usable again, but that is far better than waiting and then still having
to do a power cycle.  Will keep using it and will report back again
later.  =)

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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread pippin

MrSinatra;358345 Wrote: 
 
 do you consider the russian elections fair as well?
 
No.
 
 do you consider it a fair election when there is no free press?
 
Well, Jimmy Carter does. But he's a socialist, I know...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3571350.stm
When he lost one, even the US gov. thought it's fair:
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gYHgWXg21cI0i-8AseulYJNg69VQ
 
 sorry, in america we know a sham when we see it.  chavez is a sham, a
 complete and total sham.
 
Of course he is. So is Bush. What's the point? Both are elected shams.
 
 exactly, why hasn't NATO sanctioned it?  the USA wants you to, but you
 hide behind technicalities.  what an ally.
 
Could it be that you have no idea what NATO is about?
Read it up:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nato
 
 exactly, you have no plan, no strategy.  all you have are complaints. 
 i ask you for solutions, you provide none.
 
yawn
Why on earth should I provide you with a solution for a mess you got
into against our advice?
 
 the russians, and you let georgia be totally destroyed by them, and you
 do virtually nothing, in any way, as a response.
 
This is simply wrong. Georgia started the war, not even they would
argue about that. THEY argue that they had a go by the US government
which the latter denies. I tend to believe the US gov. in this case.
 
 not yet, but russia is threatening.  tell me, what will germany do
 then?  nato?  the eu?
 
No, they are not. Ukraine is a deeply torn apart country between the
western part, which is Ukrainian and the eastern part, which is mainly
Russian (by population). This is too complex a story to be discussed
here in between three lines. But the last time I met Russians and
Ukrainians, which was about two weeks ago, they came along pretty well
with each other.
 
 its fair to question the strategy.  but i would argue that establishing
 a democracy in th middle east is worth it.
I'm not sure it is worth the price. What you eventually WILL get is a
civil war, after which you may actually have a Democracy in Kurdistan,
which then will be invaded by Turkey, which then the US will do nothing
about.
I don't know what will happen to the Sunni areas but the south will
most likely come under Iranian control.
Which may not be the worst thing, long term, since the Iranians managed
a revolution before (against the US, who supported their Dictator, which
in turn largely contributed to all the turmoil between the US and Iran
these days) and are liberal by Middle East standards (the people, not
the gov.).
Until then, a few 100.000 more people will die.
Is it worth it?


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Re: [slim] Help! SB3 drops out...Router Issue?

2008-11-09 Thread Millwood

Superstition

The SB wireless units, and particularly the controller, do not play
well in a mixed B-G network where B devices come and go, thus switching
the network from G to mixed.

I can't prove this, but in my case I can reproduce the controller going
off the net for a few minutes anytime I turn my B laptop on.

I've gone back to B only, which is in fact good enough for my
purposes.

In some of my earlier flailing, I had an SB3 that would go off the net
in the sense that it was associated, according to it and the router,
but could not be pinged and could not communicate.  This was with a
Linksys WRT110.  I haven't seen it with the replacement Netgear 824.

All this isn't very useful, I'm afraid, execept that if your laptop is
B only, try running the wireless B only and see what happens.


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Re: [slim] Player Won't Connect

2008-11-09 Thread craig l

i am new to forums and am having the same problem with my sb. when it
works it is awesome and then although it says it is connected to my
computer the player can't be found message comes up.


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Re: [slim] Player Won't Connect

2008-11-09 Thread craig l

i am new to forums and am having the same problem with my sb. when it
works it is awesome and then although it says it is connected to my
computer the player can't be found message comes up.


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Re: [slim] Political BS

2008-11-09 Thread Peter
ajkidle wrote:
 Well put, couldn't agree more.  It's a general discussion forum about
 Slim Devices products, not a general discussion forum about everything.
 On second thought, maybe I should post something about the book I just
 read and a questions about the plumbing project I'm working on in the
 basement.  I'll just make the forums my own personal blog...
   

I tried to complain a while ago when someone thought it proper to start 
a thread on the bloody Olympics. I got very little support. I'm 
subscribed to this forum as a mailing list ever since it was about the 
SliMP3. I expect SD related discussions in my mailbox, not politics, 
sports or the weather. They're already back as far as WW2 I believe.

I'm not for extremely strict topic rules, sometimes discussions go a bit 
astray. But this goes much too far IMHO.

Regards,
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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread Themis

MrSinatra;358325 Wrote: 
 so could you explain exactly what we did to chile to fight their
 democratic gov't?On wikipedia, you have the soft version :
 The nationalization of U.S. and other foreign-owned companies led to
 increased tensions with the United States. The Nixon administration
 brought international financial pressure to bear in order to restrict
 economic credit to Chile. Simultaneously, the CIA funded opposition
 media, politicians, and organizations, helping to accelerate a campaign
 of domestic destabilization.
But I suppose you know all that. And if you don't, well, then,
nevermind. :)


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread egd

Perhaps it's time for everyone to give their Woodstock a listen  :)


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread Themis

egd;358370 Wrote: 
 Perhaps it's time for everyone to give their Woodstock a listen  :)
It reminds me that I have still to get the CD version... Before the
Flood, as well. :)


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread mswlogo

I helped knock on doors for Obama in NH.

We had no signs or name tags and first approached folks asking them
about the election. Our job was to find undecided voters. Man were
republicans bitter and democrats were so friendly, the contrast was
huge. And this was during the time McCain was AHEAD.

I respect folks right to vote for whom ever they wish but man it amazes
me how folks justified their votes. If anyone caught Boston Legal the
night before it really was fantastic and made the point so clear. Of
how crazy the justifications were.

I also thought Ron Howards video clip was awesome and was right on the
money. Folks were afraid of change.


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread toby10

MrSinatra;358268 Wrote: 
 i would point out that the USA had to fix the problems in europes
 backyard in bosnia, and we get little credit for that.  where is nato
 in afghanistan?
 
 also, i just want to correct one thing above, the USA absolutely did
 NOT sell saddam WMDs.  others may have, but we knew he had them b/c the
 UN found them and inventoried them for ~6years after the 91 gulf war.

Sadly, we did worse.  We sold Saddam the technology to do so on his
own.  Then helped him with technical expertise and know how to develop
these very chemical and biological weapons.  
We even helped him jump start his nuclear program in the same manner. 


This was during the the enemy of my enemy is my friend love affair
with Saddam.  I guess it all made senseat the time.   :(


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Re: [slim] BBC Radio 4 - Anyone else getting this?

2008-11-09 Thread bonze

elziko;358271 Wrote: 
 Anyone know what programme the clip is from? Just curious!Ironically 
 Saturday Live :)


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

Themis;358277 Wrote: 
 You see, that's *exactly* the problem with USA foreign policy : it
 decides in place of other nations what is good and what is bad for
 them. That's why everybody detests it. ;)
 We have our own choices and decisions, we don't need your intervention
 on it. And no other country does. You must understand this. :)
 
 Things are getting better, though. Interventions diminish over time.
 And I'm not at all amazed you don't know what Greece has a problem
 with. Why should you ? Do you think I know what exactly the USA has a
 problem with ?

thats why i asked.  still waiting for an answer.


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Re: [slim] BBC Radio 4 - Anyone else getting this?

2008-11-09 Thread elziko

This is definitely a BBC problem since it's also happening on their
iPlayer. Maybe they have no-one working on the weekends since you'd
imagine they would have at least switched the stream off.

Anyone know what programme the clip is from? Just curious!


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

Themis;358203 Wrote: 
 In Greece we hate American foreign policies since WW2. We've always
 found them unfair, anti-democratic, and against simple peoples'
 interests everywhere in the world. And more particularly in our (greek)
 neighborhood.
 
 Nevertheless, we have a big respect for American people, and once more
 they proved to be awesome ! Americans really deserve a great applause
 for their mutual solidarity : a great nation, indeed.

i would like to know what greece has a problem with, especially
considering that without us, you'd have been communist for 60 years.

and please, don't cite our involvement with turkey.  greece and the
turks problems are your own, not ours.


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Re: [slim] Political BS

2008-11-09 Thread Nonreality

pfarrell;358308 Wrote: 
 Nonreality wrote:
  Could you please post a list of
  everything you don't like so we can make sure you don't get anything
  sent to you that might not make the cut. 
 
 Your attitude is at the top
 
 
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That's it?  I was really trying to figure out why, but you come back
with my attitude.  Brilliant. I really don't think anyone forces you to
get emailed every post.  You can choose and you can log on and read or
use a rss reader.  But you choose to try to stop every thread you don't
want.  My attitude, you might want to check yours also.  I will also
look at mine again and try to adjust.


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Re: [slim] BBC Radio 4 - Anyone else getting this?

2008-11-09 Thread Tim-Ann

Hi there,

Yes I've been getting this since Saturday I also seemed to be getting
on my SqueezeNetwork favorite as well and it is still doing it.

Anyone know of a fix?

Many thanks, Tim.


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Re: [slim] One error remaining in 6.2.2...

2008-11-09 Thread andyg

This thread is quite old, are you sure it's relevant to your problem? 
Worst case, you can set the SB up to use a static IP.


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread Themis

MrSinatra;358273 Wrote: 
 i would like to know what greece has a problem with, especially
 considering that without us, you'd have been communist for 60 years
You see, that's *exactly* the problem with USA foreign policy : it
decides in place of other nations what is good and what is bad for
them. That's why everybody detests it. ;)
We have our own choices and decisions, we don't need your intervention
on it. And no other country does. You must understand this. :)


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 No, I'm not.
 He's an elected president. Several times re-elected. The vote has even
 been fair.

thats just laughable.

do you consider the russian elections fair as well?

do you consider it a fair election when there is no free press?

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 I don't like him either, but he DOES have the support of his people.
 He did even get more votes than his opponent, a thing not every US
 president could claim.

where's the rolling eyes avatar?  how about i just say yawn.

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 What is your standard for a democracy? That it's being run by the
 Republican party?
 
 This is EXACTLY the kind of imperialist attitude the US is being hated
 for in big parts of the world.

yawn.

sorry, in america we know a sham when we see it.  chavez is a sham, a
complete and total sham.

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 That's a question of perspective. As I said, they are not allowed to go
 into combat as of the German constitution which allows for German
 troops to only go into combat under one of two conditions: Sanctioned
 by UN or when NATO goes to war. Both is not the case here.

exactly, why hasn't NATO sanctioned it?  the USA wants you to, but you
hide behind technicalities.  what an ally.

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 evidence of the WMD still existing in 2003. The US claimed to have it,
 it was a lie.

this is nonsense.

first, there is a difference between a mistake and a lie.  i agree that
we were wrong about a great deal we thought we knew.  that is a mistake.
there is no proof that anyone lied.

but the fact remains, that the UN inventoried literally TONS of
anthrax, VX, sarin, and mustard gas in the 7 years after the armistice.
that stuff, that we, and the UN know he had b/c we inventoried it, is
STILL unaccounted for.

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 When it's against what the rest of the world wants: yes.

please, gimmie a break.  the rest of the world has no responsiblity,
and carrys no water.  we can't even depend on NATO to help us in
afghanistan.

if the rest of the world din't want us in korea, should wenot have done
that either?  should we have just let the south koreans to the
communists?  to live as their starving brethren to the north live?

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 They can't. Read my last post. It's in the constitution. Without that we
 would not have gotten the unification. I admit the US were not the
 hardliners about this, that was France and the UK, but that's still how
 it is.

and as i said, NATO should be there, 100%.

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 Having a plan before going to war would help a good deal, first of all.

thats not a strategy, or a solution, thats a complaint about execution,
which i agree, has plenty to be criticized.

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 Iran is not trying to build a nuke, they are trying to play games with
 you. And you don't get it.

hahaha, ok, and you know this how?

and if they get a nuke, what will you say then?  whats your plan?

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 What did you have to negotiate in Iraq? How about just leaving them
 alone? They did attack no one (in 2003).

there was nothing to negotiate.  all saddam had to do was comply, and
demonstrate he had destroyed the WMDs, it was on him to do so, it was
in the armistice.  he didn't, he died as a result.

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 What's your solution: Stay there for another 150 years and get US
 soldiers killed by all sides? Have fun!
 Pull out and get a civil war?
 Cool plan you had. Cool democracy you got!

exactly, you have no plan, no strategy.  all you have are complaints. 
i ask you for solutions, you provide none.

we are prepared to do whats necessary, as we always have been, which
germany, almost more than any other country, has benefitted from.  we
could have left you to the russians, or did you forget?

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 Where it belongs: at home. Please don't forget who started THAT war!

the russians, and you let georgia be totally destroyed by them, and you
do virtually nothing, in any way, as a response.

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 What's up with ukraine? No war there.

not yet, but russia is threatening.  tell me, what will germany do
then?  nato?  the eu?

pippin;358330 Wrote: 
 Yep. But you will not cure brain cancer by amputating legs.

its fair to question the strategy.  but i would argue that establishing
a democracy in th middle east is worth it.


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Re: [slim] Great Product

2008-11-09 Thread jamfree

I gotta get me a boom! I even think I could get away with getting my
wife the controller for christmas :-)


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Re: [slim] SB3 Antenna???

2008-11-09 Thread pfink

androidtopp;357631 Wrote: 
 I have heard a lot of people get VERY slow throughput on these,
 depending on the quality of your house wiring, and how clean your power
 is. Could all be bunk, but I've seen few people be satisfied. I
 considered this option, but it was more expensive than what ended up
 working for me, and all those low throughput comments planted the seed
 of doubt in my mind. If it works, it's a great option though - since it
 has the power (see what I did there) to extend your network everywhere.

Using the Squeezecenter Server  Network Health test I get a solid 100%
@2500kbps on the SB3s that are attached to the Powerline AV adapters. At
3000kbps it drops off to 95%. This is identical to what I get when I
test my hardwired SB3. In any case the throughput has been good enough
to stream FLACs to multiple SB3s throughout the house without any
drop-outs, which wasn't the case with wi-fi.

I don't have any info on the single-phase vs multi-phase home wiring
issue. FWIW I'm located in the northeast US and live in a 15 year old
house. Your mileage may vary.


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Re: [slim] Blind Person can't register

2008-11-09 Thread autopilot

I'm sure someone will help.

But why can't someone just do it for him, then give him the password
and user name? Or am i missing something obvious?


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*Office  :* Softsqueeze - Logitech Active 5.1's.
*Kitchen :* Squeezebox Boom -coming soon-
*Roaming : * Squeezebox Controller - Logitech mm28 portable speakers /
Shure E2c's
*Controllers :* Squeezebox Controller x 2 + Logitech Harmony one
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Re: [slim] Great Product

2008-11-09 Thread Nonreality

funkstar;358076 Wrote: 
 It is good isn't it? :)
 
 I would be really stuck without my Classics and my Boom, the only CD
 player I own now is in my car :)
I was trying to remember the last time I played a CD...about the week
before I got my SB3 I think.  :)  I don't even use them in the car as I
use my Ipod Classic and XM tuner.  I rip them and put them in a box.


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Re: [slim] Get OS message on start since version 7.2 (I think) (Mac OS X)

2008-11-09 Thread jfield

If you set it to start when you log in, this problem still occurs on
7.2.1.

But if you set it to start when the system boots, presumably it's run
as a different user and so does actually start automatically.


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread amcluesent

I promised you change you can believe in, I did not promise you change
you can actually see.

He added: You believe in Jesus don't you? Right, but have you ever
seen Jesus? Exactly. Just making sure we're all on the same page.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeBox3 slow response

2008-11-09 Thread upstatemike

Just looked at the Asus tech forum and saw no answers there. I am very
interested in the final solution to this since I plan to go a similiar
route except with a locally attached USB drive instead of a NAS. 

Just curious if the Eee Box timeout kicks in if music is playing on the
SB3 or only if the player is idle?


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Re: [slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread pippin

MrSinatra;358324 Wrote: 
 wait a minute, you are claiming HUGO CHAVEZ as an example of a
 democratic gov't???  are you kidding?
 
No, I'm not.
He's an elected president. Several times re-elected. The vote has even
been fair. I don't like him either, but he DOES have the support of his
people.
He did even get more votes than his opponent, a thing not every US
president could claim.

What is your standard for a democracy? That it's being run by the
Republican party?

This is EXACTLY the kind of imperialist attitude the US is being hated
for in big parts of the world.
 
 and gimmie a break about germany, it has ZERO combat troops there, and
 what little ones it does have there are in the rear with the gear.
 
That's a question of perspective. As I said, they are not allowed to go
into combat as of the German constitution which allows for German troops
to only go into combat under one of two conditions: Sanctioned by UN or
when NATO goes to war. Both is not the case here.
 
 what exactly do you want?  evidence of the armistice?  evidence the UN
 inventoried WMDs after the gulf war?
 
evidence of the WMD still existing in 2003. The US claimed to have it,
it was a lie.
 
 does that mean when we do do things, when the rest of the world does
 nothing, we should be criticized?
 
When it's against what the rest of the world wants: yes.
 
 america has asked germany to do more, they won't.
 
They can't. Read my last post. It's in the constitution. Without that
we would not have gotten the unification. I admit the US were not the
hardliners about this, that was France and the UK, but that's still how
it is.
 
 so whats your solution?  we had WMDs that saddam wouldn't demonstrate
 he had detroyed, we have iran trying to build a nuke, we had oil for
 food bribes...  whats your solution?  negotiations?
 
Having a plan before going to war would help a good deal, first of
all.
Iran is not trying to build a nuke, they are trying to play games with
you. And you don't get it.
What did you have to negotiate in Iraq? How about just leaving them
alone? They did attack no one (in 2003).

What's your solution: Stay there for another 150 years and get US
soldiers killed by all sides? Have fun!
Pull out and get a civil war?
Cool plan you had. Cool democracy you got!
 
 of course we have a self interest in SOME of what we do, (we had NONE
 in bosnia, your backyard), but frankly i could care less what the rest
 of the world thinks, as the rest of the world rarely has a backbone or
 can be counted on.  where is the EU for georgia?
 
Where it belongs: at home. Please don't forget who started THAT war!
 
 the ukraine?
 
What's up with ukraine? No war there.
 
 moreover, this idea that we shouldn't do anything pro-active or else it
 will ecruit more terrorists, is defeatist.  sounds very neville
 chamberlain to me.  you don't cure cancer by appeasing it.  you fight
 it.
Yep. But you will not cure brain cancer by amputating legs.


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Re: [slim] SqueezeBox3 slow response

2008-11-09 Thread upstatemike

Thanks for the update... I was actually going to order the Eee Box today
so this is very timely information. I will probably hold off now to see
what response/explanation you get from Asus.

I was thinking that that if SC was actively doing something the problem
would not occur. Since I have several players running the SuperDateTime
plugin I was hoping the constant updates to those displays might
prevent the throttle-back of the Eee Box CPU but I guess not. Please
post any more info you discover on this problem.


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[slim] What an election.

2008-11-09 Thread Ross Malegus
The Forum moderator should stop these emails on this subject from clogging
up the discussion group forum.
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Re: [slim] Political BS

2008-11-09 Thread badbob

pfarrell;358044 Wrote: 
 ModelCitizen wrote:
  It's a mild aberration.
  If it bothers you don't read it.
  It's no biggy.
 
 Sorry, it bothers me. And it comes to my email inbox.
 
 There are plenty of other places on the 'net to rant about politics.
 
 It has nothing to do with Slim Devices, Logitech Streaming Medea
 products, music or technology.
 
 Please stop.
 
 -- 
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Annoyed that Mccain lost?


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Re: [slim] SqueezeBox3 slow response

2008-11-09 Thread madsandrup

Hi upstatemike.

The mysterious timeout always kicks in playing or not :-)
But I have created a task which is executed every 3 minute (just to be
sure):
powercfg /DEVICEQUERY wake_from_S1_supported. This will indeed keep
the Eee Box running and my setup runs like a charm.
I don't know what the powercfg command does, besides of listing devices
supporting wake from S1, but it works.
The only thing which is not working while keeping the Eee Box alive
with a task is automatic standby after a specified period in windows.
But I have overcome this problem by running another task which will
bring the Box in Standby at 22.00.
Of course I hope a more clean solution will be found in the future.
But as I said, my setup now works like a charm.


Regards,
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Re: [slim] Political BS

2008-11-09 Thread MrSinatra

but not yours pat?  :)

i'll just reiterate what i said in the other thread that complains
about a single thread:

slim should make a forum for topics that have nothing to do with slim,
and probably rename general discussion to general discussion about
slim, if in fact thats what it is.

then again, as we are talking about one thread, (not counting the two
complaining about it), slim might do nothing.

but imo, they should.  it would appease everyone and make expectations
clear for the future.


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